[Speaker 1] (11:19 - 11:19) Alright. [Speaker 2] (11:22 - 11:22) Okay. [Speaker 2] (11:25 - 11:34) Alright we'll call to order the tonight's public hearing of the Planning Board for relative to updates to the Zoning bylaws. [Speaker 1] (11:35 - 11:35) Alright. [Speaker 2] (11:36 - 11:39) I think we need to vote to open the public hearing. [Speaker 1] (11:41 - 11:43) Ethan, I think there's a delay. [Speaker 2] (11:44 - 11:47) Tonight's hearing of the Planning Board for its... [Speaker 1] (11:48 - 11:48) Okay. [Speaker 3] (11:48 - 11:48) Nice. [Speaker 2] (11:48 - 11:50) Good? All right. Nothing [Speaker 1] (11:50 - 11:50) Cannot like wait. [Speaker 2] (11:50 - 11:51) hearing your voice. Anyway. [Speaker 1] (11:51 - 11:51) Can we [Speaker 4] (11:51 - 11:51) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (11:51 - 11:51) consider [Speaker 4] (11:51 - 11:52) really. [Speaker 1] (11:52 - 11:53) to open the public hearing? [Speaker 2] (11:54 - 11:54) Is there a second? [Speaker 3] (11:55 - 11:55) Second. [Speaker 5] (11:55 - 11:56) Second. [Speaker 2] (11:56 - 11:56) All right. [Speaker 1] (11:56 - 11:56) Okay. [Speaker 2] (11:56 - 11:58) Seconded by Joe, all in favor? [Speaker 2] (11:59 - 11:59) I. All right. [Speaker 3] (11:59 - 12:00) I. [Speaker 2] (12:01 - 12:13) So according to our public hearing notice, the first zoning bylaw for update was an update to zoning bylaw 5.4.0.0, which is site plan special permitting and eliminating [Speaker 2] (12:14 - 12:28) The square footage requirement for new construction amending the square footage requirement for residential additions by adding language that require a site plan special permit for all new additions and construction located in the flood zone and taking any actions relative thereto. [Speaker 2] (12:31 - 12:42) So I know at our last meeting we voted to recommend this with the additions noted in the listing as mentioned to require. [Speaker 2] (12:43 - 12:47) Site plan review for any addition in the flood area overlay zone, [Speaker 2] (12:47 - 13:08) in addition to eliminating the, or lowering the requirement for a site plan special permit from 800 to 500 square feet for an addition and eliminating the requirement of a site plan special permit for new construction of 3000 square feet, eliminating that entirely so any new construction require a site plan special permit and review. [Speaker 1] (13:11 - 13:15) Did we hear anything from the select board? Any comments from them? [Speaker 6] (13:15 - 13:21) Not I think Doug was it had a question about the coastal flood criteria for site plan [Speaker 1] (13:21 - 13:22) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 6] (13:22 - 13:26) You were there Ted remind I since reach out to him I didn't hear back but [Speaker 2] (13:26 - 13:29) It was just an inquiry as to the reason why we were doing that. [Speaker 2] (13:29 - 13:31) It wasn't so much anything other than that. [Speaker 2] (13:31 - 13:33) I just explained to him the... [Speaker 2] (13:34 - 13:41) It was to be just another check on the coastal flood area construction and similar to the updates to the coastal flood area, I'm sorry, [Speaker 2] (13:41 - 13:49) the flood plain overlay district, that new construction would be required to submit a narrative onto the resiliency, [Speaker 2] (13:49 - 13:53) it was just a further check on any construction in that area, [Speaker 2] (13:53 - 13:57) much of which is already outlined in the updates to the flood area overlay district anyway. [Speaker 2] (13:57 - 13:58) So he didn't really... [Speaker 2] (13:59 - 14:01) Have a conclusion is more of a inquiry, [Speaker 6] (14:01 - 14:01) Right. [Speaker 2] (14:01 - 14:02) I guess. [Speaker 2] (14:03 - 14:06) Any other inquiries from town staff or other boards? [Speaker 6] (14:06 - 14:07) No. [Speaker 6] (14:07 - 14:07) No, [Speaker 6] (14:07 - 14:08) at least none that came my way. [Speaker 6] (14:08 - 14:09) So. [Speaker 2] (14:09 - 14:16) And I think we had done, you had done some inquiries onto the last two years of building permits. [Speaker 6] (14:16 - 14:16) Yep. [Speaker 2] (14:16 - 14:19) How many were done in the coastal flood area? [Speaker 6] (14:19 - 14:19) One. [Speaker 6] (14:20 - 14:20) Well, [Speaker 6] (14:20 - 14:21) actually two. [Speaker 6] (14:21 - 14:25) We had 33 Puritan Road and two 33 Puritan Road. [Speaker 6] (14:25 - 14:25) Um, [Speaker 6] (14:26 - 14:29) 233 just came before us for site plan review back in the late fall. [Speaker 2] (14:29 - 14:29) Yep. [Speaker 6] (14:29 - 14:30) Um, [Speaker 6] (14:30 - 14:31) or maybe it was early winter, January. [Speaker 6] (14:32 - 14:35) Um, and they came forth, they provided us a floodplain memo. [Speaker 6] (14:36 - 14:39) They had the engineers with them. It was a pretty well thought out, robust site plan application. [Speaker 6] (14:39 - 14:40) Um, [Speaker 6] (14:40 - 14:52) and then 33 Puritan Road was an addition that was applied for last year and they were located, they are located in the coastal flood overlay and, um, they needed relief before the zoning board of appeals. [Speaker 6] (14:53 - 14:54) So they got that, but they were under [Speaker 1] (14:54 - 14:54) And [Speaker 6] (14:54 - 14:57) that 800 square foot threshold for a site plan. [Speaker 1] (14:57 - 15:09) it was always my opinion that that should have come before planning simply because of the location in the in the floodplain and that's when we first kind of had an issue with well this isn't [Speaker 1] (15:10 - 15:39) a flood hazard zone it says flood hazard and and it doesn't come under the wetlands by law but Right. it wasn't you know it doesn't fall under any of those requirements or those restrictions and the coastal flood area overlay there were so many sort of conflicting terms so that was really honestly the impetus to make sure that our language was in sync with what the the state has put forth and it it just happened to be good timing because [Speaker 1] (15:39 - 15:48) because the FEMA maps have just been updated and so now we know you know we have new information and they have become a bit more rigid in terms of floodplain [Speaker 6] (15:48 - 15:48) Right. [Speaker 1] (15:48 - 15:49) so [Speaker 1] (15:51 - 15:57) At this point that particular site plan at 33 Puritan would have definitely required a site plan and [Speaker 6] (15:57 - 15:58) Right. [Speaker 1] (15:58 - 16:19) may have had some trouble because of its because part of that lot is in the V1 zone even though the construction is not in the V1 zone so and that's another different twist that's in the state by law that was not in ours so yeah so we've included that floodplain overlay [Speaker 1] (16:19 - 16:22) say in the site plan regulations. [Speaker 6] (16:22 - 16:23) Right. [Speaker 1] (16:23 - 16:31) Do we say in here anywhere about that we reserve the right to to waive any of these requirements? [Speaker 6] (16:31 - 16:35) At least not in the zoning bylaw, but in [Speaker 1] (16:35 - 16:37) The processes I think we might. [Speaker 6] (16:37 - 16:38) the rules and regulations, [Speaker 1] (16:38 - 16:38) Okay. [Speaker 6] (16:38 - 16:40) I bet there is. Yeah. [Speaker 1] (16:40 - 16:45) So that's what I just would want to check because I think that we may want that at some point. [Speaker 6] (16:45 - 16:45) Okay, even [Speaker 1] (16:45 - 17:00) though like you said there are very few that came before us but you know I think if there were a case where you know something came before you and the building commissioner. [Speaker 1] (17:01 - 17:10) And it was, you know, clearly not, you know, we could just sort of look at it and say, well, maybe we don't need to go through Right. this process, [Speaker 1] (17:10 - 17:19) then we would have, you know, the option to take a look at it and, you know, waive any requirements that we might want to do. [Speaker 1] (17:19 - 17:29) But, and I do believe that's also in the in the processes that we don't need to include it in the bylaw. But I just wanted to, in case anyone is listening to this and watching that. [Speaker 1] (17:29 - 17:33) But there is the consideration that if something were that minor, [Speaker 1] (17:33 - 17:36) that that would still fall under site plan, [Speaker 1] (17:36 - 17:40) we have the opportunity to review it and we can decide to waive that. [Speaker 1] (17:40 - 17:41) But otherwise, [Speaker 1] (17:41 - 17:43) this will, [Speaker 1] (17:43 - 17:52) I think this will be protective for the town and do a lot of good and certainly is in great fairness too. [Speaker 1] (17:53 - 17:54) neighbors [Speaker 6] (17:54 - 17:54) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (17:54 - 17:54) and everyone [Speaker 6] (17:54 - 17:54) yeah, [Speaker 1] (17:54 - 17:55) else who has to [Speaker 6] (17:55 - 17:55) for [Speaker 1] (17:55 - 17:57) look at new construction so [Speaker 6] (17:57 - 17:57) sure. [Speaker 2] (17:57 - 18:03) Right, I think even at the 233 Puritan Road, we heard from the butter with mild concerns. [Speaker 2] (18:03 - 18:10) I don't even think concerns is the right word, but inquiries into how the construction there might impact the flooding on their property, [Speaker 6] (18:10 - 18:10) Right, [Speaker 2] (18:10 - 18:10) if at all. [Speaker 6] (18:10 - 18:10) exactly. [Speaker 2] (18:10 - 18:17) So I think having this at least gives an outlet in that part of town there's sensitivities in being in a flood zone. [Speaker 6] (18:17 - 18:18) Right. [Speaker 7] (18:18 - 18:18) Right. [Speaker 2] (18:19 - 18:30) Um the second part of the by-law that Mm-hmm. Morse and I were looking into earlier today was the changing from the 800 square foot additions to 500, [Speaker 2] (18:30 - 18:32) lowering that trigger. [Speaker 2] (18:33 - 18:44) Um and there were something like four building permits between December 2022 and today that would have required site plan that didn't previously. So the effect well [Speaker 2] (18:45 - 18:56) you know it affects those four uh building permits was relatively minimal compared to the overall number of building permits that are issued um which is relatively surprising to me, but uh important [Speaker 8] (18:56 - 18:56) Yeah. [Speaker 2] (18:56 - 18:56) to note nonetheless. [Speaker 1] (18:57 - 19:08) And I think an important thing to know about that particular restriction is that it's very much in keeping with our peers in other small densely populated communities [Speaker 1] (19:08 - 19:24) so you know in a lot of our older neighborhoods or just neighborhoods where their lots are smaller especially I mean as we had discussed when we had our initial discussion about this you know 500 square foot addition is [Speaker 1] (19:25 - 19:29) is really quite, quite meaningful. [Speaker 1] (19:29 - 19:35) So I think it's in, you know, it's in all of our interest to pay attention to these things. [Speaker 2] (19:39 - 19:48) And I suppose the third real part of that bylaw amendment is the elimination of the 3,000 square foot requirement so that any new construction now requires a site plan review. [Speaker 2] (19:49 - 19:50) Again, [Speaker 2] (19:50 - 19:52) I think there were only two in the last two years, [Speaker 6] (19:52 - 19:52) Correct. [Speaker 2] (19:52 - 19:54) new construction that [Speaker 2] (20:03 - 20:03) Right. [Speaker 1] (20:03 - 20:07) Um but I know that we had discussed it in the past how [Speaker 1] (20:08 - 20:30) There had been instances where the permit may have been pulled and it was slightly lower than 3,000 square feet but as built may have been slightly in excess of 3,000 square feet and things get lost in translation from pre-con to post construction but I really think that's a good opportunity for us to be able to provide some narrow opportunities for all abutters for new construction. [Speaker 1] (20:31 - 20:34) have the chance to kick the tires on what's going on, [Speaker 3] (20:34 - 20:34) Right. [Speaker 1] (20:34 - 20:45) to have an understanding of what the impact is on their property without being, in my opinion, overly burdensome since this is pretty narrowly tailored and new construction is not something for single and two family homes that we see with great regularity. [Speaker 3] (20:45 - 21:00) Right. And I would if I would just like to comment for the benefit of anyone who might is watching or may watch this prior to town meeting both of the applications that did not require [Speaker 3] (21:01 - 21:20) site plan because they were under 800 square feet should have for a variety of reasons with Scott sorry eight right 3,000 square feet they they both should have and they're I'm not going to get into individual properties right here but we you know certainly could if someone was specifically interested in that [Speaker 3] (21:22 - 21:28) Things that people don't think about, of course, there's a certain right to build a house on a property, [Speaker 3] (21:28 - 21:32) but site plan covers so much more than just that. [Speaker 3] (21:32 - 21:34) It has to do with plumbing and electrical, [Speaker 3] (21:35 - 21:41) and literally someone had a telephone pole that was moved and it ended up right in front of the neighbor's kitchen window. [Speaker 3] (21:41 - 21:46) There are issues here like drainage that are enormously important. [Speaker 3] (21:47 - 21:49) Curbs, sidewalks, pitch of a driveway. [Speaker 3] (21:49 - 22:05) How many trees someone's allowed to take down, landscaping, you know, sight lines, so this ends up being a really important feature to the pattern of a neighbourhood, and it's spe you know, especially in a small town like ours it's it's very important. [Speaker 1] (22:10 - 22:14) As far as the public hearing goes any I don't think we have any members of the public well definitely not in person. [Speaker 4] (22:15 - 22:17) Uh and none of mine either. [Speaker 1] (22:17 - 22:19) And not on mine. Hate when [Speaker 5] (22:19 - 22:19) that What [Speaker 1] (22:19 - 22:19) happens. [Speaker 5] (22:19 - 22:21) do we vote on anything, or we just [Speaker 3] (22:21 - 22:27) Oh, I think we definitely do because that goes into the warrant we vote to um to um [Speaker 1] (22:27 - 22:28) Either recommend [Speaker 3] (22:28 - 22:28) we we [Speaker 1] (22:28 - 22:28) or not [Speaker 3] (22:28 - 22:29) recommend [Speaker 1] (22:29 - 22:29) recommend. [Speaker 3] (22:29 - 22:29) favourable [Speaker 1] (22:29 - 22:29) If we want, [Speaker 3] (22:29 - 22:29) action. [Speaker 1] (22:29 - 22:30) yeah. [Speaker 5] (22:30 - 22:30) To to [Speaker 3] (22:30 - 22:32) Right, so that's what we vote to do. [Speaker 5] (22:32 - 22:32) To secure [Speaker 3] (22:32 - 22:45) Um also, you know, this will give anyone who me doesn't gonna sit and watch this tonight, but if somebody says before town meeting, you know, the planning board must have had a hearing on this, I wanna take a look, then they'll be able to to look at the [Speaker 3] (22:45 - 22:45) Oops. [Speaker 3] (22:46 - 22:48) But I'll be able to watch the recording, [Speaker 3] (22:48 - 22:50) maybe get a little more information. [Speaker 1] (22:51 - 22:51) Right. [Speaker 5] (22:52 - 22:53) Okay. [Speaker 5] (22:53 - 22:56) So we can take more of the time or vote all at the end or? [Speaker 1] (22:56 - 23:03) I think we take them each one at a time because we'll have to do a different for each bylaw update to include in the warrant. [Speaker 3] (23:06 - 23:07) Well, [Speaker 5] (23:07 - 23:07) Um, [Speaker 3] (23:07 - 23:10) I'll make a motion if anyone n if uh if no one else has a comment on this is [Speaker 1] (23:10 - 23:10) I just [Speaker 3] (23:10 - 23:10) there [Speaker 1] (23:10 - 23:10) actually don't [Speaker 3] (23:10 - 23:11) any any [Speaker 1] (23:11 - 23:11) I think let's done. [Speaker 3] (23:11 - 23:11) yes. [Speaker 1] (23:11 - 23:29) You know, I wasn't here at the last meeting, um so I'll probably just abstain from this one one way or another. I'd have preferred to have seen eight hundred or maybe even no um restrictions on additions. You know, I think I've talked about it in the past, I think it's a small town, it's pretty hard to, [Speaker 1] (23:29 - 23:31) you know, I don't know that five hundred [Speaker 1] (23:32 - 23:55) I think it would have been better if it was tied to something like a percentage of the square footage of the house, but I'm not gonna vote against it because of the change, I understand what you're all saying, but um you know I think you could have some pretty small houses in town where people are trying to that's what they could afford, they got it, they're locked in, they can't go anywhere else, and five hundred square feet might not be enough for them to be able to stay where they want to stay, and I don't know that we always have to come through the [Speaker 5] (23:56 - 23:57) planning board process for [Speaker 3] (23:57 - 24:16) that. Well, I think that's, you know, that's an excellent point, but I think that's where the ability to come into town hall and talk about what they're thinking about doing and having the opportunity to have us decide to waive the requirement and decide that we would, we could perform a review instead of, you know, so that in that case we can waive the special permit fee, [Speaker 3] (24:16 - 24:20) we can waive the whole special permit application per se. [Speaker 3] (24:20 - 24:42) they will have to provide you know like anything that you you have to go to the building inspector and have a set of plans obviously but I think we have that option inside plan under our processes so without it having to be you know with the bylaw written as it is we are protected per se but we it gives us the flexibility to be able to do that which [Speaker 5] (24:42 - 24:43) Yeah, no, I hear [Speaker 3] (24:43 - 24:43) I think is [Speaker 5] (24:43 - 24:43) what [Speaker 3] (24:43 - 24:44) fair [Speaker 5] (24:44 - 24:44) you're saying, [Speaker 3] (24:44 - 24:44) to people [Speaker 5] (24:44 - 24:44) yeah. [Speaker 3] (24:44 - 24:45) and I agree [Speaker 1] (24:45 - 24:45) Sure. [Speaker 3] (24:45 - 24:46) with you I think they're [Speaker 3] (24:46 - 24:56) There would definitely, there's definitely a possibility there would be cases like that and I think it's good that we should have the flexibility to be fair to people. [Speaker 5] (24:56 - 24:56) Sure. [Speaker 1] (24:56 - 25:02) I think to your point Joe, and I I hear what you're saying. I think that's something that Joe you've brought up on a number of times where [Speaker 1] (25:03 - 25:13) You know instead of having concrete boundaries having to be relative to your property size or lot size May make more sense for the continuous character of the town and of a neighborhood like a seven and a half foot [Speaker 1] (25:14 - 25:27) uh setback. In one neighbourhood, might not make for one size house might not make sense for the next neighbourhood, even though on paper it is, but a percentage might make sense. Bring that up 'cause that might be something that consider it some point in the future is looking [Speaker 1] (25:27 - 25:29) How do you implement something like that. Because [Speaker 5] (25:29 - 25:45) I I don't I don't I don't disagree actually. I think the percentage idea is interesting, but the execution of percentage can be very difficult depending on how square footage is distributed. So we might have to be evaluating percentage of footprint [Speaker 1] (25:45 - 25:46) Right. [Speaker 5] (25:46 - 25:49) um in addition to and um [Speaker 5] (25:50 - 25:54) footprint to footprint, square footage to square footage, it's it's a it does [Speaker 5] (25:55 - 26:02) does tend to be a complicated formula if if there's a formula on it. But I do think there's value um [Speaker 5] (26:03 - 26:15) sort of looping back 'cause I I think I'm on the other side of this from you when and we were in the last conversation. Um where I really do think because of the [Speaker 5] (26:16 - 26:20) diverse lot size and [Speaker 1] (26:21 - 26:34) sort of density of neighbourhoods in this town, um these reviews are really important because they can impact, like you were talking about the site plan review for a telephone pole being dropped in front front of someone's window, it can really [Speaker 1] (26:34 - 26:37) impact the the neighbouring houses and [Speaker 5] (26:37 - 26:57) the role of a planning board, the role of a lot of commissions that are permitting is is a way for neighbours to come up with something that works for both the neighbourhood and for the house. So I I do think it's a a valuable thing to have um high have site plan and again a five hundred foot is not small. [Speaker 5] (26:58 - 26:59) You know, that's not a small edition. [Speaker 6] (27:00 - 27:09) Um and th the I don't I should have it right in front of me, but this is footprint or square footage? Square footage. [Speaker 3] (27:12 - 27:16) Are you turning to the flip cart front would um you know um [Speaker 1] (27:17 - 27:19) An addition, more than five hundred [Speaker 3] (27:19 - 27:20) right. It's an [Speaker 1] (27:20 - 27:21) square feet of growth floor area. [Speaker 3] (27:22 - 27:22) Right. [Speaker 6] (27:22 - 27:26) Yeah, because I think that's also very complicated because you can have [Speaker 6] (27:27 - 27:28) Multiple floors. [Speaker 3] (27:28 - 27:29) Right. But [Speaker 6] (27:29 - 27:30) All right, so [Speaker 3] (27:30 - 27:30) there is [Speaker 6] (27:30 - 27:30) that that [Speaker 3] (27:30 - 27:30) like a [Speaker 6] (27:30 - 27:32) could be this big or it could be [Speaker 3] (27:32 - 27:32) Yeah. [Speaker 6] (27:32 - 27:32) you know. [Speaker 3] (27:32 - 27:37) You do have setbacks obviously to deal with. [Speaker 3] (27:38 - 27:46) I mean you know what's interesting about the zoning bylaws is that the whole purpose of it is to [Speaker 3] (27:47 - 27:51) is how do we get to saying yes to something [Speaker 6] (27:51 - 27:51) Right. [Speaker 3] (27:51 - 28:02) you know how do we allow it's not about no no no even though sometimes because of the way they're written it sounds like no but the goal is to get the right kind of to help [Speaker 3] (28:02 - 28:11) develop a property in the safest way, in the way that's most, you know, the fairest to people that live within, you know, ten feet of your door [Speaker 6] (28:11 - 28:11) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 3] (28:11 - 28:18) to respect sort of patterns of development. And you know, we are obviously developing as a town. [Speaker 3] (28:18 - 28:28) We continue to see more density come in and you know, regardless of what your stance is on that, there's some people that really welcome it and encourage it and others that are [Speaker 3] (28:28 - 28:56) absolutely horrified and a lot somewhere in the middle but it's going to happen one way or the other so we you know to have some kind of guidepost by which we can look and say okay let's help you get here with this but you know you can do this but it needs to look like that or you know it's really it really is a way of enabling construction it's not you know not you know just turning our back on it at all which is kind of a bad idea for everyone involved [Speaker 6] (28:56 - 28:57) And with that in mind, too, I do. [Speaker 6] (28:57 - 29:20) I do like the idea that this aligns with Marblehead um in the sense of the dense neighbourhoods. But it also when you do have alignment between two communities that have as many similarities, um it is useful for things not to be overlooked uh or not to be confused by um contractors and architects that are are working with [Speaker 1] (29:20 - 29:20) Right. [Speaker 6] (29:20 - 29:23) with people. So um I think that [Speaker 6] (29:23 - 29:28) My comfort with it has a lot to do with that number and it being used in Marblehead. [Speaker 1] (29:31 - 29:34) Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, as they say. [Speaker 6] (29:34 - 29:34) There we go. [Speaker 3] (29:34 - 29:49) Well, they have similar patterns where you've got, you know, neighborhoods that are really old and really densely developed and populated, and then you have other areas that are, you know, relatively much newer where the lot size is much greater. So you've got everything in between. [Speaker 1] (30:09 - 30:14) mostly letting you know hope helping people do what they what they really would like to do and [Speaker 2] (30:14 - 30:14) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (30:14 - 30:14) doing it well. [Speaker 3] (30:17 - 30:19) Do we have any motions on the floor for this uh [Speaker 1] (30:20 - 30:23) I'll be happy to make a motion only if everyone is finished commenting. [Speaker 2] (30:23 - 30:24) Okay. [Speaker 4] (30:25 - 30:28) Do we we do have a uh [Speaker 3] (30:28 - 30:30) Are there any comments from the public? [Speaker 2] (30:33 - 30:38) Anyone who's joining us online you can use the raise your hand feature and we're happy to take your comment. [Speaker 5] (30:43 - 30:43) That being [Speaker 1] (30:43 - 30:43) Okay, [Speaker 5] (30:43 - 30:44) said, that adds [Speaker 1] (30:44 - 30:44) that [Speaker 5] (30:44 - 30:44) me. [Speaker 1] (30:44 - 30:54) being said, I will move that the planning board vote to recommend favorable action on this article at town meeting. [Speaker 5] (30:55 - 30:55) Is there a second? [Speaker 4] (30:56 - 30:57) Second. [Speaker 5] (30:57 - 30:59) All right. All those in favor? [Speaker 1] (30:59 - 30:59) Aye. [Speaker 4] (30:59 - 31:00) Aye. [Speaker 5] (31:00 - 31:02) All right. All those opposed? [Speaker 5] (31:02 - 31:03) Opposed? [Speaker 4] (31:03 - 31:04) Abstain. [Speaker 5] (31:04 - 31:04) Abstain. [Speaker 2] (31:04 - 31:04) Okay. [Speaker 5] (31:04 - 31:04) Okay. [Speaker 5] (31:06 - 31:06) All right. [Speaker 1] (31:06 - 31:07) Thanks. [Speaker 5] (31:07 - 31:09) So recommending favorable action on. [Speaker 5] (31:10 - 31:12) Amendments to 5.4.0.0. [Speaker 5] (31:15 - 31:32) Alright, so the next zoning by-law that we uh proposed updates to, at least advertised in the legal notice was amendments to the zoning by-law 4.1.1.0 by renaming the district as the Wetlands Protection Overlay District. [Speaker 5] (31:32 - 31:59) and to the extent necessarily the zoning map as well as further subsection as bylaw may be amended relative to the change in its name and amendments to the zoning bylaw 4200 coastal flood area overlay district by renaming the district as the flood area overlay district striking language that renters the local bylaw non-compliant by adding language that brings a local bylaw into compliance with new regulations set forth by the Massachusetts Department of Conservation Recreation in the Federal Emergency Management Agency [Speaker 5] (32:00 - 32:09) Zoning map will be further updated to reflect changes in the forthcoming flood rate insurance maps issued by FEMA to which I believe you received two out of the four [Speaker 1] (32:09 - 32:09) maps She got [Speaker 5] (32:09 - 32:09) yesterday. [Speaker 1] (32:09 - 32:11) you out of the four. [Speaker 4] (32:11 - 32:15) I think you've made an error in what you read just because it is the flood plain [Speaker 1] (32:15 - 32:16) Floodplain. [Speaker 4] (32:16 - 32:17) overlay district, [Speaker 4] (32:17 - 32:18) not the flood area. [Speaker 3] (32:18 - 32:18) Okay. [Speaker 5] (32:18 - 32:20) Coastal flood area overlay district, [Speaker 5] (32:20 - 32:20) right? [Speaker 1] (32:20 - 32:20) No, [Speaker 4] (32:20 - 32:20) Yes. [Speaker 1] (32:20 - 32:21) no, we got rid of [Speaker 4] (32:21 - 32:21) It [Speaker 1] (32:21 - 32:21) Coastal. [Speaker 4] (32:21 - 32:22) is of coastal, [Speaker 4] (32:22 - 32:25) it is becoming the flood plain overlay district. [Speaker 1] (32:25 - 32:25) Right. [Speaker 2] (32:25 - 32:26) Floodplain area. [Speaker 2] (32:25 - 32:27) area overlay district. [Speaker 4] (32:27 - 32:27) Okay, [Speaker 1] (32:27 - 32:28) The plain [Speaker 4] (32:28 - 32:29) according to the sheet we have, [Speaker 1] (32:29 - 32:29) No, [Speaker 4] (32:29 - 32:30) the area [Speaker 1] (32:30 - 32:30) it's [Speaker 4] (32:30 - 32:30) is [Speaker 1] (32:30 - 32:30) flood [Speaker 4] (32:30 - 32:30) crossed [Speaker 1] (32:30 - 32:30) plain. [Speaker 4] (32:30 - 32:31) out. [Speaker 1] (32:32 - 32:32) Flood [Speaker 2] (32:32 - 32:32) Oh, [Speaker 1] (32:32 - 32:32) plain [Speaker 2] (32:32 - 32:33) the floodplain [Speaker 1] (32:33 - 32:34) overlay district, which [Speaker 4] (32:34 - 32:34) Okay. [Speaker 1] (32:34 - 32:36) aligns with the state line. [Speaker 4] (32:36 - 32:40) So the area the error is just in the legal notice you guys [Speaker 5] (32:40 - 32:40) Yeah, [Speaker 4] (32:40 - 32:40) have. [Speaker 1] (32:40 - 32:40) So [Speaker 5] (32:40 - 32:40) I [Speaker 1] (32:40 - 32:40) now, [Speaker 5] (32:40 - 32:44) think I think that was in referencing what was already on paper. [Speaker 4] (32:44 - 32:45) No, it was the second time you read it that [Speaker 5] (32:45 - 32:45) Oh, [Speaker 4] (32:45 - 32:46) it I I [Speaker 5] (32:46 - 32:48) I'm sorry. Oh, I didn't oh I hear you. [Speaker 1] (32:48 - 32:48) I'm [Speaker 5] (32:48 - 32:48) I [Speaker 1] (32:48 - 32:48) just... [Speaker 5] (32:48 - 32:49) hear you. Yeah [Speaker 5] (32:52 - 32:52) get in the district. [Speaker 1] (32:52 - 32:55) Yeah, but it's not a floodplain area. That's what's in the notes here. [Speaker 1] (32:55 - 32:56) So we could take the [Speaker 4] (32:56 - 32:56) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (32:56 - 32:56) area [Speaker 4] (32:56 - 32:58) it was just it was in the legal notice, but [Speaker 1] (32:58 - 32:58) Yeah, [Speaker 4] (32:58 - 33:01) the actual language is floodplain overlay district. [Speaker 1] (33:01 - 33:02) okay. [Speaker 1] (33:02 - 33:05) Right and that's correct on the red line here. [Speaker 5] (33:05 - 33:05) Okay. [Speaker 2] (33:05 - 33:06) Yep. [Speaker 1] (33:06 - 33:07) Okay. [Speaker 1] (33:09 - 33:12) So again this brings us into compliance with new state regulations. [Speaker 5] (33:13 - 33:24) Absolutely. Much of this was adopted by the state regulations set forth by Department of Conservation and Recreation, of which Marissa and Marzi at Town Hall worked with to come up with our local bylaw, [Speaker 5] (33:25 - 33:33) mimicking almost all of the language that they had suggested for municipalities in its entirety. [Speaker 5] (33:33 - 33:37) Marissa, were there any changes to this that we made that were in addition to? [Speaker 5] (33:39 - 33:41) Any of the example language D_C_R_ provided? [Speaker 2] (33:42 - 33:45) No, you mean anything that would be specific to Swamp Scape that wasn't necessarily [Speaker 5] (33:46 - 33:49) That wasn't part of the s uh template that D_C_R_ provided. [Speaker 2] (33:49 - 33:50) No, no. [Speaker 5] (33:50 - 33:50) Okay. [Speaker 2] (33:50 - 33:50) Everything [Speaker 1] (33:50 - 33:51) Aside from the name. [Speaker 5] (33:51 - 33:51) Exactly. [Speaker 1] (33:51 - 33:52) Right. [Speaker 2] (33:52 - 33:52) Right. [Speaker 1] (33:54 - 34:09) So the DCR works with floodplain overlay districts. So we had formerly had like floodplain slash wetland protection overlay district which also then conflated floodplains with wetland protection areas. [Speaker 1] (34:10 - 34:15) Not all wetland protection areas are floodplains and not all floodplains are wetland protection areas. [Speaker 1] (34:15 - 34:20) So that was, you know, that became very confusing for the wetland regulation. [Speaker 1] (34:21 - 34:26) It also let a lot of stuff fall through the cracks for coastal flood areas. [Speaker 2] (34:26 - 34:26) Right. [Speaker 4] (34:26 - 34:26) Right. [Speaker 1] (34:26 - 34:32) So now it's just, you know, anything that floods is in the flood [Speaker 2] (34:32 - 34:32) Right. [Speaker 1] (34:32 - 34:34) plain overlay district. [Speaker 2] (34:34 - 34:35) Right. [Speaker 1] (34:35 - 34:43) um and wetlands are wetlands or wetlands they may flood they may not flood they're wetlands they're a whole separate designation so [Speaker 2] (34:43 - 34:45) Yeah, they're topographically different. [Speaker 2] (34:45 - 34:47) They have two different sets of regulatory standards. [Speaker 1] (34:47 - 34:55) right that's correct so now anytime you talk about something that floods it's a unless it's a wetland it's a floodplain so and these are all [Speaker 1] (34:56 - 34:58) marked on the new FEMA maps. [Speaker 1] (34:59 - 35:07) There is um some language that's a little more um strict that comes down from the state in terms of um [Speaker 1] (35:08 - 35:10) what can be um [Speaker 1] (35:10 - 35:19) allowed in terms of uh fill demolition, what can be built in a in a VE zone and an AE zone and A zones. [Speaker 1] (35:20 - 35:24) Um it's not that far off from where we were before, but it um [Speaker 1] (35:25 - 35:27) It is a little more rigid actually. [Speaker 5] (35:27 - 35:35) Right. Requiring any construction to be permitted in the flood overlay district. [Speaker 1] (35:35 - 35:35) Right, right. It [Speaker 5] (35:35 - 35:36) And does that allows [Speaker 1] (35:36 - 35:38) allow for variances, but it, you know, [Speaker 5] (35:38 - 35:39) It does allow [Speaker 1] (35:39 - 35:39) it [Speaker 5] (35:39 - 35:39) for variances. [Speaker 1] (35:39 - 35:41) has to be in like severe cases as usual. [Speaker 5] (35:41 - 35:44) And those variances no longer go to the zoning board of appeals, [Speaker 5] (35:44 - 35:46) they go to the state Massachusetts State Building Code. [Speaker 1] (35:46 - 35:46) Right, [Speaker 1] (35:46 - 35:47) which [Speaker 5] (35:47 - 35:48) Appeal board. [Speaker 1] (35:48 - 35:49) is really important to know. [Speaker 1] (35:51 - 36:00) And I also, you know, I just wanna m make sure that everyone who who has to deal with this by-law, both you know, building commissioner, [Speaker 1] (36:00 - 36:02) planning board, zoning board of appeals, [Speaker 3] (36:02 - 36:02) Mm. [Speaker 1] (36:02 - 36:10) uh that everyone becomes familiar with the new regulations, because they are definitely different and the process changes, um [Speaker 1] (36:12 - 36:17) as you know, our whole coastal flood [Speaker 1] (36:17 - 36:23) Issues become ever more challenging to deal with. [Speaker 4] (36:23 - 36:34) Are we going to read through all of these or because they were adapt they were adapted um not because I d I do have a note on page nine. [Speaker 2] (36:34 - 36:35) Okay. [Speaker 5] (36:35 - 36:35) Okay. [Speaker 4] (36:35 - 36:42) Um in the red line if the town acquires date should actually say if the the town acquires data. [Speaker 1] (36:45 - 36:46) Would I pick catch? [Speaker 1] (36:52 - 36:53) Where is that? [Speaker 4] (36:53 - 36:54) The last page, nine. [Speaker 5] (36:54 - 36:54) Or the fourth [Speaker 4] (36:54 - 36:54) The [Speaker 5] (36:54 - 36:55) and the first third page. [Speaker 4] (36:55 - 36:56) sentence in the red. [Speaker 1] (36:56 - 37:00) Ah, thank you. Probably that is page nine, what do you know? Thank you. [Speaker 1] (37:02 - 37:02) I get it. [Speaker 1] (37:05 - 37:06) Oh, I missed that one too. [Speaker 1] (37:09 - 37:09) Okay. [Speaker 5] (37:09 - 37:17) And I reviewed the new floodmaps that we received today. The two that we received didn't seem substantially different than what was on record before, [Speaker 2] (37:17 - 37:17) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 5] (37:17 - 37:20) but they were the northern parts of town, [Speaker 1] (37:20 - 37:20) Right, [Speaker 5] (37:20 - 37:21) in Orland [Speaker 1] (37:21 - 37:21) right. [Speaker 5] (37:21 - 37:24) and Florida, so probably I would imagine the parts that are closer to downtown, [Speaker 5] (37:24 - 37:26) Fishman's Beach area, might be more substantively [Speaker 1] (37:26 - 37:31) They are, and I think the floodplain around, you know, Phyllis Park has gone inland a bit. [Speaker 1] (37:33 - 37:35) Certainly over Johnson Park, which [Speaker 4] (37:35 - 37:35) Yes. [Speaker 1] (37:35 - 37:37) is right on Puritan Road, Scull and Way, [Speaker 1] (37:37 - 37:41) that area, um you know, fish house is [Speaker 4] (37:41 - 37:41) It's [Speaker 1] (37:41 - 37:41) probably [Speaker 4] (37:41 - 37:41) like [Speaker 1] (37:41 - 37:41) a little [Speaker 4] (37:41 - 37:42) a pumping [Speaker 1] (37:42 - 37:42) further [Speaker 4] (37:42 - 37:42) station, [Speaker 1] (37:42 - 37:43) a little further [Speaker 4] (37:43 - 37:43) it's the inlet, wall. [Speaker 1] (37:43 - 37:54) yeah. So, um I uh King's Beach, I didn't see anything that, you know, of course there we have cliff you know, more cliffs there than than [Speaker 3] (37:54 - 37:54) Right. [Speaker 1] (37:54 - 37:55) flat land. So it's [Speaker 4] (37:55 - 37:58) Oh except down right at the town line, [Speaker 1] (37:58 - 37:58) Right, [Speaker 4] (37:58 - 37:58) there's a flood [Speaker 1] (37:58 - 37:59) so there's that. That [Speaker 4] (37:59 - 37:59) there's [Speaker 1] (37:59 - 37:59) Stacy's [Speaker 4] (37:59 - 38:00) that. [Speaker 1] (38:00 - 38:01) Brook area, which is um [Speaker 1] (38:03 - 38:06) Which is, yeah, that's certainly looks worse as [Speaker 2] (38:06 - 38:06) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (38:06 - 38:06) well. [Speaker 2] (38:06 - 38:07) yeah, I would expect that to happen. [Speaker 1] (38:09 - 38:13) So, and you know I was able to see those online, but I guess they just haven't [Speaker 5] (38:13 - 38:15) They haven't mailed them to us I guess, the only two. [Speaker 1] (38:15 - 38:21) printed out the maps yet. I couldn't download it from the online service either, so um, you know there, [Speaker 1] (38:22 - 38:24) there they are kind of ginormous maps, [Speaker 2] (38:24 - 38:24) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (38:24 - 38:25) so [Speaker 5] (38:25 - 38:25) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (38:25 - 38:29) probably, I don't have the right programme or the right, you know, it's too much data I suppose. [Speaker 1] (38:30 - 38:40) um but so we should be getting the other two maps, I'm sure, at some point. And then what do we do? We just keep them on file in the building inspector's office? [Speaker 2] (38:40 - 38:40) Yeah, a building, [Speaker 1] (38:40 - 38:41) Okay. [Speaker 2] (38:41 - 38:45) we'll keep a copy, uh a town clerk will keep a copy, we can give a copy to DPW. [Speaker 1] (38:45 - 38:45) Okay. [Speaker 4] (38:45 - 38:46) Yep. [Speaker 2] (38:46 - 38:46) So, [Speaker 5] (38:46 - 38:46) So the D_ [Speaker 2] (38:46 - 38:46) pretty [Speaker 5] (38:46 - 38:47) P_ W_ [Speaker 2] (38:47 - 38:47) good guess. [Speaker 5] (38:47 - 38:51) director is now it's the official floodplain administrator for the town. [Speaker 5] (38:53 - 38:58) Marisa, do you recall what the that title entails, at least in terms of this by-law? Some [Speaker 5] (38:58 - 38:59) Trying to recall offhand. [Speaker 2] (39:00 - 39:09) I think it would be up to them to make the determination as to whether or not a construction would be subject to these floodplain standards. [Speaker 2] (39:12 - 39:13) So they, [Speaker 1] (39:13 - 39:16) Again, really increasing his role, his or her role as well. [Speaker 2] (39:16 - 39:17) right, [Speaker 1] (39:17 - 39:17) Okay. [Speaker 2] (39:17 - 39:18) right. [Speaker 2] (39:18 - 39:24) So we'll have to bring Gino and our engineer Mark to speak on these as [Speaker 1] (39:24 - 39:24) Right. [Speaker 2] (39:24 - 39:24) well. [Speaker 1] (39:24 - 39:25) Right. [Speaker 1] (39:27 - 39:27) Yep. [Speaker 5] (39:30 - 39:32) Any other comments from the board on this uh [Speaker 2] (39:32 - 39:32) No. [Speaker 5] (39:33 - 39:33) by-law update? [Speaker 1] (39:35 - 39:43) I am uh I think that you have the two sea level rise estimates, or I don't think that's changed. Did they give us a new table for sea level rise estimates? [Speaker 2] (39:43 - 39:43) No. [Speaker 1] (39:44 - 39:44) Okay. [Speaker 1] (39:44 - 40:02) Okay so I think we can just leave that in there and we've put the most recent FEMA maps at the FR you know the FIRMAP flood insurance rate map and yeah I mean I certainly don't have any questions about it. [Speaker 1] (40:04 - 40:06) I'm relieved to have some [Speaker 1] (40:06 - 40:08) The language cleared up. [Speaker 3] (40:08 - 40:08) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (40:08 - 40:09) Yeah. [Speaker 5] (40:10 - 40:11) Excellent. [Speaker 5] (40:11 - 40:12) Do I check online or [Speaker 3] (40:13 - 40:21) Any members of the public who wish to comment or ask questions about this proposed bylaw amendment can raise their hand. [Speaker 3] (40:24 - 40:24) All right. [Speaker 5] (40:24 - 40:33) If not, I'll make a motion to a favorable action on the amendment put forth here for the 4.1.00. [Speaker 5] (40:34 - 40:35) Any more dark? [Speaker 3] (40:36 - 40:37) Okay. [Speaker 1] (40:37 - 40:42) And 4.2.00, right, um um second. [Speaker 3] (40:43 - 40:45) All right. All those in favor? [Speaker 5] (40:45 - 40:46) All right. [Speaker 3] (40:46 - 40:46) All right. [Speaker 3] (40:46 - 40:47) All right. [Speaker 3] (40:47 - 40:49) That's unanimous. [Speaker 3] (40:49 - 40:52) All right. [Speaker 3] (40:52 - 41:02) The finals zoning bylaw amendment was amending Swampscott zoning bylaw 5.11.00 on accessory dwelling units. [Speaker 3] (41:02 - 41:15) By removing language that renders the local bylaw non-compliant with the provision set forth in 760 CMR 71 and adding language that establishes new regulations regarding the operations of short-term rentals in ADUs. [Speaker 3] (41:16 - 41:20) That I'm sorry we talked about this one at length the last several months but [Speaker 5] (41:21 - 41:22) I have a comment. [Speaker 5] (41:22 - 41:28) On 5-1-1-1 we added the word A, but that makes it... [Speaker 5] (41:31 - 41:32) Incorrect. [Speaker 1] (41:34 - 41:36) I'm sorry, that's so five eleven [Speaker 6] (41:36 - 41:38) They crossed out the S on entrances. [Speaker 5] (41:38 - 41:38) Yes. [Speaker 1] (41:38 - 41:38) Yes. [Speaker 5] (41:38 - 41:41) So we say maintains a separate entrances. So it [Speaker 1] (41:41 - 41:41) Uh. [Speaker 5] (41:41 - 41:44) says maintains a separate entrance, but I think [Speaker 3] (41:44 - 41:44) I think the [Speaker 6] (41:44 - 41:44) Spell [Speaker 3] (41:44 - 41:44) S [Speaker 6] (41:44 - 41:44) that's this. [Speaker 3] (41:44 - 41:45) is stink. [Speaker 1] (41:45 - 41:45) The S is crossed [Speaker 6] (41:45 - 41:45) The [Speaker 1] (41:45 - 41:46) out. [Speaker 6] (41:46 - 41:49) S is struck, but it doesn't show very well. If you look carefully, there's [Speaker 1] (41:49 - 41:49) a Ah, [Speaker 6] (41:49 - 41:50) line yes, through [Speaker 1] (41:50 - 41:51) there is a line through it. [Speaker 6] (41:51 - 41:52) through the S on entrances. [Speaker 5] (41:52 - 41:53) Okay. [Speaker 1] (41:53 - 41:53) There is, yep. [Speaker 5] (41:53 - 41:56) So don't they need two entrances in area or exits? [Speaker 1] (41:57 - 41:58) Separate entrance, either directly. [Speaker 7] (41:59 - 42:10) Is at only at least one separate only at least one entrance needs to be separate from the principal dwelling unit because you can't have access, you know, you could enter through the front door of the principal dwelling unit and then go [Speaker 3] (42:10 - 42:10) Okay. [Speaker 7] (42:10 - 42:18) through the kitchen, down the hallway and or down the basement stairs, but one egress does need to be one entrance egress needs to be maintained separately. [Speaker 3] (42:19 - 42:19) Okay. [Speaker 3] (42:22 - 42:48) So really the only changes here from what was adopted at 2023 Town Meeting were to make it compliant with the state law as mentioned in the public hearing notice wherein we remove parking requirements for all those ADUs located within one half mile of a transit station as well as removing the requirement for owner occupancy. [Speaker 3] (42:50 - 42:58) On the ADU. And then the additional regulation there was prohibiting the rental of an ADU for less than 30 consecutive days, [Speaker 3] (43:00 - 43:05) which we were allowed to do by for the governor's new law there. [Speaker 3] (43:06 - 43:12) Otherwise, this is pretty much what we adopted in 2023 just with those minor, minor changes. [Speaker 1] (43:12 - 43:16) Just looking under the application requirements. [Speaker 1] (43:18 - 43:19) So under C, [Speaker 1] (43:19 - 43:25) it says we're required a copy of the any recorded relevant special permit. [Speaker 1] (43:28 - 43:29) So maybe we want, [Speaker 7] (43:29 - 43:29) strike [Speaker 1] (43:29 - 43:30) you see what I'm saying there? [Speaker 7] (43:30 - 43:31) the [Speaker 1] (43:31 - 43:31) Yeah, [Speaker 7] (43:31 - 43:32) right [Speaker 1] (43:32 - 43:32) let [Speaker 3] (43:32 - 43:33) Yeah, should [Speaker 1] (43:33 - 43:34) me cry a copy of the, [Speaker 1] (43:34 - 43:35) right, [Speaker 6] (43:37 - 43:39) we a copy or a copy of any [Speaker 1] (43:39 - 43:40) right, yeah, [Speaker 7] (43:40 - 43:41) a copy of any recorded [Speaker 1] (43:41 - 43:42) any's better. [Speaker 1] (43:42 - 43:44) A copy of any recorded, so take out the. [Speaker 1] (43:50 - 43:51) Okay, that's fine. [Speaker 7] (43:56 - 43:56) Okay. [Speaker 3] (43:57 - 44:14) And then transit station, I believe, Marissa, we went through this with the governor's legislation is any bus stop, whether it's a house or little canopy or not, or the train station, which I think there are only about a dozen street addresses in town that were fell outside of that half mile range, [Speaker 7] (44:14 - 44:14) Right. [Speaker 3] (44:14 - 44:15) maybe a little over a dozen. [Speaker 7] (44:15 - 44:20) a couple down in Little's Point and then a lot uh the majority of them Foster's Dam. [Speaker 7] (44:20 - 44:20) So [Speaker 3] (44:20 - 44:21) Yep. [Speaker 7] (44:21 - 44:25) but yeah any uh I think it was described as any or defined as any [Speaker 7] (44:26 - 44:30) any point where passengers embark or disembark from a motor [Speaker 3] (44:30 - 44:31) Right. [Speaker 7] (44:31 - 44:34) public transit. So train station, bus stops, ferry terminals. [Speaker 3] (44:34 - 44:37) Any non-flag stop for a bus [Speaker 7] (44:37 - 44:38) Right, yeah. [Speaker 3] (44:38 - 44:40) is how it was described at their uh forum. [Speaker 6] (44:40 - 44:41) And can that be [Speaker 6] (44:42 - 44:46) Just out of curiosity, can that be in our town and outside of our town? [Speaker 7] (44:46 - 44:46) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 6] (44:46 - 44:47) Okay. [Speaker 7] (44:47 - 44:47) Yep. [Speaker 1] (44:47 - 44:48) I would imagine so, yeah. [Speaker 7] (44:48 - 44:49) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (44:51 - 45:05) And it's also important to note that this, the ADU by-law does allow ADUs by right, um, but, you know, er still subject to our our zoning by-law setbacks requirements, [Speaker 6] (45:05 - 45:06) Historic district. [Speaker 1] (45:06 - 45:09) historic district, um, the size. [Speaker 1] (45:11 - 45:12) of the unit so forth. [Speaker 7] (45:12 - 45:12) Right. [Speaker 1] (45:12 - 45:12) So. [Speaker 3] (45:13 - 45:14) Right. [Speaker 1] (45:15 - 45:15) Okay. [Speaker 3] (45:16 - 45:18) So I think we were ahead of the curve on that one. [Speaker 5] (45:18 - 45:19) Yeah. [Speaker 5] (45:19 - 45:19) We're [Speaker 3] (45:19 - 45:19) Twenty [Speaker 5] (45:19 - 45:19) nice. [Speaker 3] (45:19 - 45:20) was great. [Speaker 1] (45:20 - 45:21) It's lucky. Yeah. [Speaker 3] (45:21 - 45:21) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (45:21 - 45:23) That was made it easier. [Speaker 3] (45:24 - 45:25) Definitely made it easier. [Speaker 1] (45:25 - 45:25) Um [Speaker 3] (45:25 - 45:28) I think it was the right decision to kind of update ours to be in compliance with [Speaker 1] (45:28 - 45:28) Yep. [Speaker 3] (45:28 - 45:28) uh [Speaker 1] (45:28 - 45:30) Yep. You're right and that was [Speaker 3] (45:30 - 45:30) MCL. [Speaker 1] (45:30 - 45:36) um yep. Agreed. Although at first I didn't agree, but now I do. [Speaker 3] (45:37 - 45:39) I'm glad we persuaded you. [Speaker 1] (45:39 - 45:39) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (45:40 - 45:43) Well, I'm a bunch of smart guys, if so. [Speaker 1] (45:45 - 45:45) Wasn't hard. [Speaker 3] (45:47 - 45:51) Any comments on this from the other members of the board? No? [Speaker 1] (45:53 - 45:53) Okay. [Speaker 7] (45:54 - 45:55) Any members of the public? [Speaker 3] (45:56 - 45:59) Any members of the public wish to raise their hand to have a comment or question answered? [Speaker 3] (46:01 - 46:02) Or in person? [Speaker 3] (46:04 - 46:06) All right. Seeing none, [Speaker 3] (46:06 - 46:06) are there any motions? [Speaker 1] (46:08 - 46:08) I'll make the motion. [Speaker 1] (46:10 - 46:20) Make the motion that the Planning Board vote for favorable action on this warrant article at town meeting. [Speaker 8] (46:22 - 46:22) Second. [Speaker 3] (46:23 - 46:24) All right, all those in favor? [Speaker 1] (46:24 - 46:25) Aye. [Speaker 5] (46:25 - 46:25) Hi. [Speaker 3] (46:25 - 46:25) All right. [Speaker 3] (46:26 - 46:26) All right. [Speaker 1] (46:27 - 46:31) I have to recommend favorable action. Sorry, I left out that word. [Speaker 6] (46:31 - 46:35) Um this is a late time to ask this, but we did make tiny [Speaker 5] (46:37 - 46:42) changes in both of these last year that we voted for, did we need to mention those in the vote? [Speaker 3] (46:44 - 46:47) The administrative changes that we just Yeah. did? The striking of the word that I don't believe we [Speaker 7] (46:47 - 46:47) No. [Speaker 3] (46:47 - 46:49) do since it's a strictly administrative. [Speaker 5] (46:49 - 46:49) Okay. [Speaker 7] (46:49 - 46:49) Yeah, even [Speaker 5] (46:49 - 46:50) Right. [Speaker 7] (46:50 - 46:52) the town clerk has the discretion to make like minor [Speaker 5] (46:52 - 46:52) Perfect. [Speaker 7] (46:52 - 46:53) grammatical changes when [Speaker 1] (46:53 - 46:53) Right. [Speaker 7] (46:53 - 46:53) they upload [Speaker 5] (46:53 - 46:54) Okay. [Speaker 7] (46:54 - 46:54) the by-law. [Speaker 1] (46:54 - 46:55) Typos, [Speaker 5] (46:55 - 46:55) Very [Speaker 1] (46:55 - 46:55) stuff [Speaker 5] (46:55 - 46:55) good. [Speaker 1] (46:55 - 46:57) like that, number of problems and what not. [Speaker 5] (46:58 - 46:58) Great. [Speaker 3] (46:58 - 46:58) Yep. [Speaker 3] (47:00 - 47:02) Is there a motion to close the public hearing? [Speaker 5] (47:03 - 47:03) So moved. [Speaker 6] (47:04 - 47:04) Second. [Speaker 5] (47:04 - 47:05) Second. [Speaker 3] (47:05 - 47:06) All right, all those in favor, [Speaker 3] (47:06 - 47:06) all right. [Speaker 3] (47:07 - 47:09) All right, all right. Public hearing is closed. [Speaker 3] (47:09 - 47:10) I think that takes care of our.