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Apologies for the late start, but welcome to Tuesday, August 19,

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2025 select board meeting.

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We are being recorded.

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Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God,

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indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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We will start this evening with the town administrators report

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where

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Okay, we're good.

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first

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Welcome everybody.

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Town Administrative Report.

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Two candidates for the Town Administrative position have been moved forward,

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Nick Connor and Jason Silva.

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Final interviews will be televised and live streamed and also on teams sometime next week.

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The UV pilot program has been halted two weeks early.

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Dismantling of the pilot began on Monday and should be completed by the end of the week with the exception of probably the UV trailer.

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Assistant town accountant,

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Trang Bu's last day was Thursday,

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although she did work both Friday and Saturday to ensure a smooth transition while her position is vacant.

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I'll miss her.

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Police union negotiations are ongoing with the fourth session being held today.

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The next negotiating session is scheduled for September 9,

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2025.

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Community development,

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the Westcard update.

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Residents are gradually moving into the new building.

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Up to 20 apartments are currently occupied with more residents moving in daily.

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Plans for the ribbon cutting and grand opening are being finalized.

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The fencing between the Westcott and the Swanskin Housing Authority was replaced last week.

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The General Glover.

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The developer has reached out to the town in this historical commission with an update regarding plans to preserve the General Glover homestead in its current location.

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Details are still being worked out and the developer is actively collaborating with their engineering,

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legal and design teams on the old.

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The developer has expressed the expectation that the historical commission would provide funding for the restoration of the property,

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both interior and exterior.

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The developer will follow up with the town team once the site plan details are further refined.

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The Haviy clarification on the 15-month timeline request.

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The request is to begin the 15-month milestone timeline from the date of the LDA lease and pilot payment are finalized rather than from the expiration date of the due diligence was back in April.

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Build an apartment.

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Part-time Commissioner Roger Enos continues to conduct inspections on Tuesdays and Thursdays and he works approximately 10 hours a week.

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The part-time electrical inspector retired in December.

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The department is currently looking for a part-time electrical inspector to fill the void.

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Temporary help was provided the past two weeks from the Marblehead Inspectional Services.

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Inspectors are now enforcing businesses that are in violation of the sign bylaw and are noticing owners who have not identified their buildings with the required house numbers.

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Thus far in April, the building department has issued 67 permits and has received $21,000 in revenue so far.

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Library.

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With its F.Y. 25 year, there was a 15% increase in visitors, a 7% increase in materials circulation and a 28% increase in meeting room use.

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The library provided 389 programmes this past fiscal year with 7,614 attendees. They also issued 2,305 museum passes and held the second annual Patron Appreciation Day with over 200 attendees. Tom Clark. The town election review committee will be reviewing suggestions for improving the election process. Recommendations will then be presented the select board and subsequently voted on at town meeting.

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Senior Center. The Senior Center will be receiving their electric van this week.

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Eighty members attended the fire department's cookout last week and an RFP for community life center will be issued soon.

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Facilities.

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RFQs will be issued to hire a consultant to design the middle school windows.

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The library front entry bid will be going out tomorrow,

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which is great news, long awaited and the senior center hand ladder condension unit is currently out to bid.

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Recreation. Wednesday's Swampscott by the Sea concert features the American Who.

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Concerts start at 6 p.m.

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Bring a lawn chair or blanket and listen to some great music.

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This week's Thursday movie night will feature Free Willy and will be shown on Fisherman's Beach, which is a little different from the past movies which have been held on the town hall lawn.

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Movie nights are sponsored by Sam Walker's American Tavern.

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There's a lot going on in September.

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It's Swamtoberfest on Saturday September 8th with a rain date of September 13th. The town-wide yard sale and Ports Fest will be both held on Saturday September 20th and the annual Swampscott Classics Car Show is scheduled for Sunday October 12th.

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Police.

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Approximately 50 residents attended a community meeting hosted by Officer Kevin Rini and Community and Economic Development Director Marzi Glasker last week regarding Stetson Ave and Franklin Ave's traffic concerns.

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Officer Rini will be working with the DPW to implement possible short-term solutions with longer-term proposed solutions being presented to the Capital Improvement Committee this fall.

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The P.D.'s newest recruit,

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Kevin Coffman, will be attending the N.E.C.C. Police Academy,

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Stoughton, on October fourteenth.

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Sixteen candidates completed in-person written exams last week, test scores will be released this week,

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Oral Board interviews will be held on September twenty second, with eight candidates currently scheduled to be interviewed.

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The August 10th physical training test was postponed due to a lack of candidates. The next PT training is scheduled for September 3rd.

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Unfortunately, all lateral candidates have been exhausted at this time.

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Human resources, human resources have been reviewing applications and interviewing prospective candidates for a var variety of open positions, including the vacant town accountant,

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vacant assistant town accountant and the vacant land use coordinator positions.

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Fire Department. Fire Department has reached out to ten candidates and eight have replied. This begins the process of filling three vacancies, two currently open and one which will be open in December due to an impending retirement.

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Beauport Ambulance is used in the former Reach Arts building located at 89 Borough Street while they renovate the old police station across the street.

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Beauport officially started on August 15th.

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Public Works. The Atlantic Ave water main replacement project was completed earlier this month with a 10 inch water main,

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new hydrants and line gates all being replaced from Blodgett Ave to Marblehead line.

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Replacement of the cast iron six inch water main with a new eight inch duct line water main on Palmer Ave was also part of that project.

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In Grenison Sun, a subcontractor for National Water Main Cleaning Company, is currently replacing compromised sewer mains on Essex Street and surrounding roadways as part of the Phase 2A Stasis Brook Sewer System Rehabilitation Project.

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And finally,

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trash.

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Unfortunately,

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if our public service strike continues,

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despite pressure from local elected officials,

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the governor,

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and state legislations,

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Republic will continue with curbside trash pickup only.

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For this coming week and probably for the perceivable future, bulk items will be accepted have been asked that question a lot lately.

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You must have a bulk item sticker,

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which you can purchase at the town hall.

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The DPW ad will continue to be open on Fridays from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m., Saturdays and Sundays from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. for recycling drop-off only. We ask residents to bring recycling in recyclable containers,

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a cardboard box,

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a paper bag,

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or a yard waste bag.

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Plastic bags with recycling will not be accepted.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Any questions for Gina?

[Speaker 3] (16:35 - 16:43)
Yeah. Um so how how has the traffic been at the at the D_P_C_ yard for uh for for pickup, for the recycling

[Speaker 1] (16:43 - 16:44)
for Recycling.

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drop-offs, sorry.

[Speaker 1] (16:44 - 16:51)
So starting Friday afternoon, the cars are lining up at two-thirty. They go past Franklin, almost up to Longwood Drive.

[Speaker 3] (16:52 - 16:52)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (16:52 - 16:55)
They're relatively patient. They come in, we got a pretty good system going on down there.

[Speaker 1] (16:56 - 17:09)
It stays busy like that probably for two and a half, three hours and then the last hour is a little uh less busy. Steady with cars coming in. Same thing Saturday and Sunday morning, a little less maybe an hour and a half backed up both mornings.

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Okay. And then uh last thing, do any update on the uh on the assessor role?

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On the assessor position? Did you mention like?

[Speaker 1] (17:19 - 17:23)
I did not mention that, but I did talk to

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Marian today, she set that out to Paul to take a look at and to s to see it, to take a look at the job description, and that should be going out tomorrow, if not the beginning of next week at the latest.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Mary

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You

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Ellen? Oh, sorry.

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Just to follow up on that, is

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Oh, go ahead.

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he saying the job description is just going out tomorrow?

[Speaker 1] (17:44 - 17:47)
Yeah, well the posting, we're working on the description to post the position.

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Mary Ellen?

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I just on the traffic issue over on Stetson Road,

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did

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Yep.

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you say that back in the middle of September with an answer on how to deal with it?

[Speaker 5] (18:04 - 18:11)
Or just can you just give me the update on that once again and I just want to know are we putting any speed bumps in there right now?

[Speaker 5] (18:12 - 18:16)
Wh what's gonna be what what's the timeline of some action being taken?

[Speaker 1] (18:16 - 18:28)
So some of the action Kevin and I discussed, we're gonna put up some speed limit signs, that's one of the first. We're gonna put up some delineation markers at the intersection of Franklin and Stetson, and we're gonna wait on the speed bumps.

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It's gotta be some more talk about it. The speed bumps are popular unless they're in front of your house.

[Speaker 1] (18:34 - 18:38)
That that's been the biggest issue. So the past two years, maybe three years, the what what speed bumps

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Each year, the person that's had them in front of their house has requested that they be moved in front of somebody else's home.

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Alrighty. Um

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so you stole my select board time but I won't hold it against you which is this library this school year 25 library snapshot um I just want to commend the library staff who has been working on and off under staffed and still able to accomplish some really wonderful things.

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Um I think notably all the programs that they continue to foster, but the things that they have also started this year, which includes the opening of the maker space, the teen space,

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um it's the website's one year anniversary if you use the um if you use their website maybe there's something Diane we can learn a thing or two for the town's website from their websites, very easy to use. Um and I

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commend the folks both supporting the library and utilizing all they have to offer because it's been really fantastic and I just want to thank the staff there for for doing that they also are a wonderful support structure to local nonprofit

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My daughter was a librarian for a day recently because we bid on something through a nonprofit and she had a wonderful time and Miss Lisa was so kind.

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And so just those opportunities for the kids to participate in a meaningful way is really great.

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So commend them.

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And then wanted to ask as we approach fall with the trash strike how we'll handle it.

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leaf and yard waste because you know obviously that will ratchet up as the leaves start to fall so just want to be thinking about that in advance we

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Yep. So we already did, right,

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did one okay

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and the next scheduled pickup is the week of September 8th.

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okay

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So my goal is we'll probably do it for two weeks down at the DPWI.

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It worked out pretty good.

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yeah and I assume

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that will become worse as people start to actually, you know, rake leaves and stuff.

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So um I don't know how we'll have to adjust. Hopefully we'll be through this by then, but who knows.

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I'm hoping.

[Speaker 2] (20:55 - 20:57)
Yeah, I got Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Speaker 2] (20:58 - 21:00)
Uh I'm I'm confused about this assessor thing. So

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that was passed as part of the funding. It is the annual budget,

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right? Yep.

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So, I mean, is this just a matter of like just too many things going on in terms of the postings happening at this point?

[Speaker 3] (21:13 - 21:14)
I think that's what it was, yeah.

[Speaker 2] (21:14 - 21:22)
Okay. Um and then uh I don't know if you mentioned it, I apologise for being late. Um did you go over the Glover stuff at all? Did

[Speaker 3] (21:22 - 21:22)
Yes.

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you?

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Did, yeah.

[Speaker 2] (21:23 - 21:28)
Yep, okay. So this this what I'm seeing in front of me feels very

[Speaker 2] (21:29 - 21:33)
Contrary to what I understood was happening, actually. So I'm a little confused.

[Speaker 2] (21:34 - 21:50)
Well it's two different thing. Okay. What I'm reading is what the developer wants to do and not necessarily with the owner is Ah, going to do. thank you. Okay. Yes, that's perfect clarification. Yes. Okay. Okay. Um and so we need to resolve that.

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Okay. Okay.

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Thank you.

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Great.

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We will move on to public comments.

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Public comment will be three minutes per participant. Please come up to the microphone, state your name and your address.

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And if you are online,

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please raise your hand.

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Please.

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Right is this right here?

[Speaker 1] (22:29 - 22:30)
Yep. Is he good?

[Speaker 1] (22:32 - 22:33)
There you go. Sounds like you're good.

[Speaker 4] (22:34 - 22:53)
Alright. Hello my name is Justin Eppley, town meeting member of precinct four, one oh eight earl street in Swampscott, and also a majority owner of Chirpin Journey. I have a comment on the social equity policy that's being considered tonight. First of all I just want to first thank everyone

[Speaker 4] (22:54 - 22:58)
It's not not on. Not now, now better. Uh uh

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Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (22:58 - 23:09)
but w thank everyone for putting the social equity policy um uh on the agenda tonight um personally important to me I was the part of the first um uh cohort of the social equity programme with the Cannabis Control Commission.

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Um and my public comment pertains to point number five on page three of the document.

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Um it's just as you discussed the policy, um tonight I just urge you to adopt language that eliminates the community impact fee for equity parties um rather than just I think currently it says that it's something that was would be considered um and ju would be used just to eliminate it for equity parties. Um financially this makes sense for the town because social equity applicants will bring the town um

[Speaker 4] (23:42 - 23:58)
a guaranteed additional one percent of tax revenue, uh which exceeds the inc um impact fees. And it was also the intent for its inclusion in the uh twenty twenty two uh law relative to cannabis equity. Um that was revised. Um and yeah, that's all. Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (23:58 - 23:59)
Thank you.

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Did you guys catch that?

[Speaker 1] (24:02 - 24:03)
Did I catch what he

[Speaker 3] (24:03 - 24:03)
Yeah,

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was saying?

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exactly the request that was made specifically.

[Speaker 1] (24:08 - 24:10)
Uh it's section, I want to tell you.

[Speaker 4] (24:10 - 24:17)
Yes, it was um sorry, it's uh it's uh point, it's number point number five on page three.

[Speaker 1] (24:17 - 24:23)
Three. There are two point number fives on page three, but it's the one that involves

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Considering

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Uh,

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considering

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consider

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a revision

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waiving

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exactly,

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of

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and reducing

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fees for

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the

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equity partners.

[Speaker 4] (24:27 - 24:32)
yeah. Uh, just would would be uh changing cons instead of considering um

[Speaker 4] (24:32 - 24:33)
Wait.

[Speaker 3] (24:33 - 24:33)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (24:33 - 24:42)
And the note from Town Council is this option, this is optional and can be removed at the town prefers so we'll just have to discuss if the town prefers and he would prefer we

[Speaker 3] (24:42 - 24:42)
Gotcha.

[Speaker 1] (24:42 - 24:42)
do.

[Speaker 1] (24:43 - 24:44)
Thank you.

[Speaker 3] (24:44 - 24:45)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (24:47 - 24:49)
Okay, anybody else for our public comment?

[Speaker 1] (24:51 - 24:52)
Seeing none,

[Speaker 1] (24:52 - 24:54)
we will move to new and old business.

[Speaker 1] (24:56 - 25:01)
Discussion possible though an appointment of Eric Kinsherf as the temporary town accountant.

[Speaker 1] (25:03 - 25:06)
Do you know? Would you like to start that?

[Speaker 2] (25:10 - 25:22)
All right, so as everybody knows, we're short in the account department, our finance director now, recently we lost our assistant accountant. So we're bringing on board Eric A.

[Speaker 2] (25:22 - 25:27)
Kirshner, C.P.A., L.L.C. Give you a little history on Eric.

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Eric is licensed in Massachusetts, qualifications include an MBA from Suffolk University and a Bachelor of Science degree with an Accountant Concentration from Bridgewater State College.

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Other credentials include being a certified Massachusetts Municipal Treasurer and Collector as designated by the Massachusetts Collectors and Treasurers Association as well as a Chartered Global Management Accountant as designated by the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. Eric's firm was established in 2004.

[Speaker 2] (26:02 - 26:12)
2008 is located in Sagamore Beach with two additional remote offices in Central and Western Mass. He is responsive and provides total financial services to individuals,

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businesses and municipalities.

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This is will be Eric's third time that Swampscott has enlisted Eric's account and support service while transitioning to a new town accountant.

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So, I've been around for all the previous two, third and I have the utmost confidence in Eric. Eric's scope includes assistance in closing the books, preparing the combined balance sheet for the submission of free cash,

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assisting in completing the F.Y. twenty six tax rate recap and completing the schedule A report.

[Speaker 2] (26:46 - 26:50)
So, what we're looking to do today is uh

[Speaker 2] (26:51 - 27:00)
So I select with a point Eric as temporary town accountant. This will allow Eric to sign off on A_P_ warrants so we can pay bills after trains last day.

[Speaker 1] (27:01 - 27:01)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (27:03 - 27:09)
And has he been already doing some things for us? And this is an expansion of his scope or is this just codifying the work that he

[Speaker 2] (27:09 - 27:09)
Codifying

[Speaker 3] (27:09 - 27:09)
is doing?

[Speaker 2] (27:09 - 27:10)
the work he's been doing.

[Speaker 3] (27:10 - 27:10)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (27:10 - 27:10)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (27:12 - 27:13)
Go ahead.

[Speaker 3] (27:15 - 27:24)
And this is only part of obviously what the town accountant and uh other position uh so how do we how are we managing day to day?

[Speaker 2] (27:25 - 27:36)
So since we signed the contract with them, which I believe is part of your package, we're gonna need to have additional services because when we signed it, we didn't anticipate losing the Assistant Accountant.

[Speaker 3] (27:36 - 27:36)
Right, okay.

[Speaker 2] (27:36 - 27:40)
So we're looking to bring on board somebody that's gonna be in the building on a day to day basis.

[Speaker 3] (27:40 - 27:41)
Through him?

[Speaker 2] (27:41 - 27:42)
Through him. Yeah, won't be him.

[Speaker 3] (27:43 - 27:43)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (27:43 - 27:44)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (27:45 - 27:46)
What's the other gentleman's name, Patrick, do you remember?

[Speaker 2] (27:49 - 27:49)
Oh,

[Speaker 4] (27:49 - 27:49)
Hello.

[Speaker 2] (27:49 - 27:52)
Elbert Rowe, yeah. He's already been in the building.

[Speaker 4] (27:53 - 27:55)
He has a big background in municipal meetings.

[Speaker 1] (28:00 - 28:12)
Um the only other question I had was um I know that we had talked about a transition audit and that when we talked about the scope of that transition audit and funded it through town meeting that potentially we were using.

[Speaker 1] (28:13 - 28:24)
perhaps this individual to do that but I don't know if that's still appropriate now given their position to take this over. So, do we have an answer as to that or should we be putting back out to bid?

[Speaker 2] (28:25 - 28:28)
Right, 'cause we got four five quotes at the time, Patrick?

[Speaker 4] (28:30 - 28:34)
Yeah, we got a few quote quotes back, which I I sent those all to you,

[Speaker 2] (28:34 - 28:34)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (28:34 - 28:40)
he was the one that was selected. Um I would leave that up to you all if if that

[Speaker 2] (28:40 - 28:40)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (28:40 - 28:41)
want you wanna revisit that.

[Speaker 2] (28:42 - 28:44)
I'll circle back with him to see if there's a conflict,

[Speaker 2] (28:45 - 28:45)
something.

[Speaker 1] (28:45 - 28:50)
Yeah, I would guess, let's just ask that question, if there's a conflict of interest given.

[Speaker 1] (28:50 - 28:58)
I mean, I think he's looking at prior actions, not current actions, so it's not like the left hand's checking what the right hand's doing.

[Speaker 1] (28:59 - 29:06)
But just make sure that that's okay and if not we'll have to take another look at those bids so we can get that going because we've funded that also.

[Speaker 3] (29:06 - 29:10)
Yep, that's a good point because I mean he is closing the books on 2025 which would be

[Speaker 1] (29:10 - 29:12)
Which would be part of what he's looking at,

[Speaker 3] (29:12 - 29:12)
potential

[Speaker 1] (29:12 - 29:12)
right?

[Speaker 3] (29:12 - 29:13)
overlap Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (29:13 - 29:13)
Yeah, okay.

[Speaker 3] (29:13 - 29:23)
okay, yeah we'll see and so then we should expect to would we need to be bringing like an addendum to this or something Gino would be the idea next meeting or two to expand the services

[Speaker 2] (29:23 - 29:24)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (29:24 - 29:24)
Okay

[Speaker 1] (29:25 - 29:29)
So there's a motion in the packet if if I would entertain.

[Speaker 5] (29:33 - 29:33)
Sure.

[Speaker 5] (29:33 - 29:42)
I move to appoint Eric Kinchurf to the Office of Town Accountant on a temporary basis pursuant to Mass General Law Chapter 41, Section 40,

[Speaker 5] (29:42 - 29:47)
due to a vacancy. Such appointment shall continue until a permanent successor is appointed to the office.

[Speaker 3] (29:47 - 29:48)
Second.

[Speaker 1] (29:49 - 29:49)
And we have to

[Speaker 3] (29:49 - 29:51)
And we have to do a roll call vote. Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 4] (29:52 - 29:52)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (29:53 - 29:53)
Doug.

[Speaker 1] (29:54 - 29:54)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (29:54 - 29:54)
David.

[Speaker 1] (29:54 - 29:54)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (29:54 - 29:55)
And I am an I.

[Speaker 3] (29:57 - 29:58)
Okay, thank you.

[Speaker 3] (29:59 - 30:20)
Alright, uh we will move on to the six forty five public hearing and discussion and possible vote to consider approval of the transfer of ownership of an existing section fifteen off premises liquor license for Vin and Square Liquors located at seven thirty I'm sorry three seventy one Paradise Road, Swampscott.

[Speaker 5] (30:27 - 30:50)
Located in Malden, I'm here with my client Angela Ansara. We're seeking approval of a transfer involving the current stockholder, which is Angela, who owns ninety eight percent in her mom Margaret, who owns the remaining two percent. Um upon the advice of financial advisor of estate planning,

[Speaker 5] (30:50 - 30:56)
it was recommended to the family that Marge transfer her two percent to

[Speaker 5] (30:55 - 31:09)
to uh Angela. And Angela then would be re become the sole stockholder of the uh liquor store. She's currently the manager of the store.

[Speaker 5] (31:09 - 31:11)
Um in terms of procedure

[Speaker 5] (31:12 - 31:18)
we've notified the three abutters a couple times now 'cause this matter was rescheduled.

[Speaker 5] (31:19 - 31:23)
Um and we've published a couple of times in the Lynn item and uh

[Speaker 5] (31:24 - 31:30)
I would think that there I-I mean I'll entertain any questions you might have, but it seems pretty straight-forward.

[Speaker 3] (31:30 - 31:36)
We're just going to pause right there because we have to motion to enter into the public hearing. So I will entertain a motion to enter into public

[Speaker 1] (31:36 - 31:36)
So

[Speaker 3] (31:36 - 31:36)
hearing.

[Speaker 1] (31:36 - 31:37)
moved.

[Speaker 3] (31:37 - 31:41)
And Second. a second. Okay, great. So um are there any

[Speaker 5] (31:41 - 31:41)
All

[Speaker 3] (31:41 - 31:41)
qu

[Speaker 5] (31:41 - 31:41)
in favour.

[Speaker 3] (31:41 - 31:43)
Oh, all sorry, roll call. Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 1] (31:46 - 31:46)
Aye.

[Speaker 5] (31:46 - 31:46)
Aye.

[Speaker 5] (31:46 - 31:47)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (31:47 - 31:49)
Aye. Okay. Um

[Speaker 3] (31:50 - 31:53)
So does anybody have any questions for,

[Speaker 3] (31:53 - 31:54)
no?

[Speaker 3] (31:57 - 31:58)
Seems very straightforward,

[Speaker 3] (31:58 - 31:59)
I'm not going to lie.

[Speaker 3] (32:01 - 32:04)
If there are no questions, then we will move.

[Speaker 1] (32:05 - 32:11)
Did anyone from the town just to review all these documents to ensure that they're all in?

[Speaker 6] (32:11 - 32:11)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (32:12 - 32:12)
She did,

[Speaker 3] (32:12 - 32:13)
Okay. but she's a ZKB.

[Speaker 5] (32:13 - 32:14)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (32:14 - 32:15)
ZKF, sorry.

[Speaker 5] (32:15 - 32:16)
I figured just that.

[Speaker 5] (32:16 - 32:17)
That's okay. Great.

[Speaker 5] (32:17 - 32:17)
Thank

[Speaker 3] (32:17 - 32:18)
you. Very good.

[Speaker 3] (32:18 - 32:27)
And then basically this goes before the ABCC after we approve it anyways and ABCC will approve it post our approval.

[Speaker 5] (32:27 - 32:28)
Correct.

[Speaker 3] (32:28 - 32:28)
Correct. Okay.

[Speaker 3] (32:29 - 32:40)
All right. So I will entertain a motion to approve the transfer of ownership of an existing section 15 off-premises liquor license for Vin and Square Liquors, Inc.

[Speaker 5] (32:40 - 32:41)
So moved.

[Speaker 1] (32:41 - 32:42)
Second.

[Speaker 3] (32:42 - 32:44)
Okay, we'll do a roll call. Mary Ellen?

[Speaker 7] (32:45 - 32:46)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (32:46 - 32:47)
David.

[Speaker 5] (32:47 - 32:47)
Aye. Oops.

[Speaker 3] (32:47 - 32:48)
Go ahead.

[Speaker 3] (32:48 - 32:48)
Go

[Speaker 5] (32:48 - 32:49)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (32:49 - 32:49)
ahead, David.

[Speaker 1] (32:49 - 32:49)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (32:49 - 32:50)
And I am an aye.

[Speaker 3] (32:51 - 32:52)
You are all set.

[Speaker 5] (32:53 - 32:53)
Thank you very

[Speaker 3] (32:53 - 32:53)
Appreciate

[Speaker 5] (32:53 - 32:54)
much.

[Speaker 3] (32:54 - 32:58)
that very much. And now I will entertain a motion to close the public hearing on the matter.

[Speaker 5] (32:58 - 32:58)
So moved.

[Speaker 1] (32:59 - 32:59)
Second.

[Speaker 3] (33:00 - 33:00)
Mary Ellen?

[Speaker 3] (33:02 - 33:03)
Doug?

[Speaker 1] (33:03 - 33:03)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (33:03 - 33:04)
David?

[Speaker 1] (33:04 - 33:04)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (33:04 - 33:05)
And I am an aye.

[Speaker 3] (33:06 - 33:13)
All right. Thank you. Moving right along to the water bond. Patrick, thank you for joining us.

[Speaker 8] (33:13 - 33:16)
Thank you. Patrick Luddy, Town Treasurer.

[Speaker 8] (33:17 - 33:28)
We have a six hundred thousand dollar water bond offered through the MWRAs local water system assistance program that we're looking for approval on tonight. This is a zero interest loan. It's

[Speaker 8] (33:29 - 33:53)
repailable over a ten year term. Uh we typically have taken advantage of these in the past many years, I'd say. Um when they're available to us in D.P.W. submitted the scope of work to that programme and it was approved. So um fairly routine. If you have questions about the exact scope of work, maybe Gino could opine. But um there's a simple consolidated motion in this memo. Hopefully I've got a copy of that somewhere in your packet.

[Speaker 8] (33:53 - 33:54)
If not, I can run it up. Okay.

[Speaker 3] (33:54 - 33:55)
We do.

[Speaker 3] (33:55 - 33:55)
Thank you.

[Speaker 3] (33:57 - 34:02)
Okay, does anybody have any questions for Patrick on the bond or Gino on the work?

[Speaker 1] (34:03 - 34:12)
Yeah, Gino, how competitive is the zero percent interest loan? I mean, is it a is it a competitive process? Is it oversubscribed? How

[Speaker 3] (34:12 - 34:12)
Oh, I how thought you

[Speaker 1] (34:12 - 34:12)
does that

[Speaker 3] (34:12 - 34:13)
meant the interest rate, like

[Speaker 1] (34:13 - 34:13)
yeah,

[Speaker 3] (34:13 - 34:13)
the David,

[Speaker 1] (34:13 - 34:14)
inte the in

[Speaker 3] (34:14 - 34:14)
it's

[Speaker 1] (34:14 - 34:14)
the interest

[Speaker 3] (34:14 - 34:15)
zero, so

[Speaker 1] (34:15 - 34:16)
the interest rate, no, no, no.

[Speaker 9] (34:16 - 34:16)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (34:16 - 34:19)
No, I understand what you're asking, but at first I was caught off guard.

[Speaker 9] (34:20 - 34:26)
You know, that's an interesting question because I thought of that. So MDRA puts it out to all their communities and they divide it up.

[Speaker 9] (34:26 - 34:44)
And I think initially allocation was $5.5 million for 10 years, so we got $550,000 a year for 10 years. But then several communities didn't take advantage of the interest-free loan, which I have no idea why. So they took all that money, threw it back in a pot, and then we got another $3.5 million over 10 years.

[Speaker 1] (34:44 - 34:46)
I guess they were waiting for the better interest rate.

[Speaker 8] (34:46 - 34:46)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (34:46 - 34:46)
Right.

[Speaker 8] (34:46 - 34:47)
Exactly.

[Speaker 5] (34:48 - 34:48)
Alright.

[Speaker 1] (34:48 - 34:50)
Well I'm glad we were able to take advantage of

[Speaker 9] (34:50 - 34:51)
Yep, twice.

[Speaker 3] (34:51 - 34:55)
Yeah, and I think maybe not in recent history, but in other years we've maybe been

[Speaker 3] (34:55 - 35:00)
be then eligible and not taken advantage. So there are times when projects just don't come to fruition.

[Speaker 9] (35:00 - 35:04)
Yeah, that was a that once we've been eligible for and we can take advantage about were the SRF loans,

[Speaker 3] (35:04 - 35:04)
Oh, okay.

[Speaker 9] (35:04 - 35:05)
okay, you

[Speaker 3] (35:05 - 35:05)
My

[Speaker 9] (35:05 - 35:05)
know,

[Speaker 3] (35:05 - 35:05)
apologies.

[Speaker 9] (35:05 - 35:08)
and those and those are at two two and a half

[Speaker 8] (35:08 - 35:09)
Two percent depending

[Speaker 3] (35:09 - 35:09)
Two percent.

[Speaker 8] (35:09 - 35:11)
on the term two or two point four yeah

[Speaker 9] (35:11 - 35:12)
Yep

[Speaker 3] (35:12 - 35:13)
Okay, well

[Speaker 1] (35:13 - 35:14)
Well, I like zero a little better

[Speaker 3] (35:14 - 35:16)
yeah, I like that too. Very competitive.

[Speaker 3] (35:18 - 35:20)
Um okay, so if

[Speaker 3] (35:20 - 35:22)
There are no other questions Doug, go

[Speaker 5] (35:22 - 35:22)
I

[Speaker 3] (35:22 - 35:22)
ahead.

[Speaker 5] (35:22 - 35:24)
just um is

[Speaker 5] (35:28 - 35:44)
this in cons I assume it is, but uh is this in concert with anticipated needs that we were kind of looking out for doing this is all kind of anticipated in the water rates and uh we knew uh these are not like emergency repairs, this is part of our long term keeping the system updated.

[Speaker 1] (35:44 - 35:45)
Correct.

[Speaker 5] (35:45 - 35:46)
Yeah, okay.

[Speaker 1] (35:46 - 35:50)
Um and then the other thing I'd like to note is that since it's on Atlantic Avenue,

[Speaker 9] (35:50 - 35:50)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (35:50 - 36:05)
which has been ripped up like forty seven times, um and is really a hazard um for anyone that's not in a like uh Hummer, um do you have any s do you have any expectation of when we might be at a point where we could actually do a real repair of Atlantic Avenue?

[Speaker 9] (36:05 - 36:08)
Yep. So the next paving project will include Atlantic Ave.

[Speaker 9] (36:08 - 36:18)
From the Puritan-Atlantic Compromise Split to Blodget Ave. Then we're gonna wait off the following year because the trenches are gonna settle and I like to wait to at least one winter because

[Speaker 1] (36:18 - 36:18)
Okay.

[Speaker 9] (36:18 - 36:20)
compaction just isn't great.

[Speaker 1] (36:20 - 36:23)
Because we're finished with all the major things that we expect to happen.

[Speaker 9] (36:23 - 36:26)
Right. Because we got new gas and water.

[Speaker 8] (36:26 - 36:26)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (36:27 - 36:30)
Great. So that would be next year you think that would start?

[Speaker 9] (36:30 - 36:34)
Um possibly the fall for the first section of Atlantic. Yep.

[Speaker 1] (36:34 - 36:35)
Cool. Great. Thanks.

[Speaker 3] (36:38 - 36:39)
Marilyn, you're good?

[Speaker 10] (36:42 - 36:42)
I'm good.

[Speaker 3] (36:42 - 36:48)
Okay, wonderful. So I will entertain a motion as written so he wants to read it,

[Speaker 1] (36:48 - 36:48)
Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (36:48 - 36:48)
that would be great.

[Speaker 1] (36:48 - 36:57)
I m I move that the written votes presented to this meeting in connection with the town's sale of its bond be adopted as written and incorporated into the minutes of this meeting in full.

[Speaker 9] (36:57 - 36:58)
Second.

[Speaker 3] (36:59 - 37:00)
Um roll call, Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 3] (37:02 - 37:03)
Doug,

[Speaker 1] (37:03 - 37:03)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (37:03 - 37:03)
David,

[Speaker 1] (37:03 - 37:04)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (37:04 - 37:04)
and I.

[Speaker 3] (37:06 - 37:09)
That's cruising right along. Thank you, Patrick.

[Speaker 8] (37:09 - 37:14)
Thank you. And if you, if I can just add the signature pages, I need at least three of you to sign.

[Speaker 3] (37:14 - 37:14)
We

[Speaker 8] (37:14 - 37:16)
There's three of you here, so please sign it tonight.

[Speaker 5] (37:16 - 37:17)
Yeah, right on.

[Speaker 1] (37:17 - 37:18)
What time is that?

[Speaker 3] (37:18 - 37:19)
Mary?

[Speaker 8] (37:19 - 37:19)
That's all.

[Speaker 5] (37:19 - 37:19)
It's amazing.

[Speaker 9] (37:19 - 37:19)
Thank

[Speaker 5] (37:19 - 37:21)
You sign you, them like you didn't even see us right after

[Speaker 3] (37:21 - 37:21)
I know.

[Speaker 5] (37:21 - 37:22)
you voted.

[Speaker 3] (37:23 - 37:31)
Um, so I am actually gonna move the LDA discussion to the bottom of the agenda. Marzi is going to try to swing in post.

[Speaker 3] (37:32 - 37:43)
Um her ZBA meeting um and I know some of the the social equity policy and the turpentine journey conversation and the LDA she was gonna try to

[Speaker 3] (37:43 - 37:45)
come in for if she could.

[Speaker 5] (37:45 - 37:45)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (37:45 - 37:48)
So we'll move to the DPW update.

[Speaker 9] (37:48 - 37:51)
I was reading a request that you put the lilacs wall first so

[Speaker 3] (37:51 - 37:51)
Oh

[Speaker 9] (37:51 - 37:52)
we can

[Speaker 3] (37:52 - 37:52)
sure.

[Speaker 9] (37:52 - 37:52)
move on.

[Speaker 3] (37:52 - 37:53)
I'm happy to entertain that.

[Speaker 9] (37:53 - 37:54)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (37:54 - 37:59)
Let's do the let's do the lax wall next since we have some guests.

[Speaker 3] (38:00 - 38:01)
You're welcome.

[Speaker 5] (38:01 - 38:02)
Can we leave and turn my, can we stay here?

[Speaker 3] (38:03 - 38:07)
Uh you can sit there, let's just get you a microphone. Um

[Speaker 3] (38:07 - 38:10)
Patrick's on it 'cause he's so wonderful. Thank you Patrick.

[Speaker 3] (38:19 - 38:25)
Okay. Gina if you wanna start the conversation then we can move on to our guests.

[Speaker 3] (38:25 - 38:27)
Maybe we can give them an introduction.

[Speaker 9] (38:27 - 38:32)
Yep. So I've been meeting with Ryan and Rince maybe the last year and a half discussing

[Speaker 1] (38:32 - 38:32)
Yep.

[Speaker 9] (38:32 - 38:38)
this lax wall or the proposed lax wall in a location at the rear of Phillips Park.

[Speaker 9] (38:38 - 38:42)
I'm sure Ryan will elaborate that it's one of the fastest growing sports around.

[Speaker 9] (38:43 - 38:49)
And then the beauty of this is with all the work that we're talking about,

[Speaker 9] (38:49 - 38:50)
DPW is going to...

[Speaker 9] (38:51 - 38:55)
supply some support, but you for cross is gonna fund all this work, yeah?

[Speaker 1] (38:56 - 38:57)
What's gonna fund?

[Speaker 3] (38:57 - 38:57)
Youth

[Speaker 9] (38:57 - 38:57)
You

[Speaker 3] (38:57 - 38:57)
for cross.

[Speaker 9] (38:57 - 38:58)
for cross. Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (39:00 - 39:00)
Excellent.

[Speaker 9] (39:00 - 39:02)
So I'll turn it over to Ryan and Joy.

[Speaker 5] (39:03 - 39:03)
Perfect,

[Speaker 5] (39:03 - 39:26)
thank you, Gino. Thank you very much board for for having us tonight. My name is uh Ryan Joy. I'm the president of Swampscott Youth Across. This is Jen Kelleher. She's our girls director uh for our the Swampscott Youth Across program. As we're as Gino mentioned that we're here to seek approval of a lacrosse wall ball structure to be implemented there in Phillips Park. As you can see here on this short deck that we put together um

[Speaker 5] (39:27 - 39:32)
that you want to just to kind of flip that you guys have a copy of it maybe if you don't yep

[Speaker 3] (39:32 - 39:32)
We do.

[Speaker 5] (39:32 - 39:33)
okay perfect.

[Speaker 3] (39:33 - 39:34)
Diana can advance to the next.

[Speaker 5] (39:34 - 39:44)
So as you can see first couple pages really just gives you an idea of the cross itself, the the game and how fast that's grown over the years. Um

[Speaker 1] (39:44 - 39:51)
The third page really just gives you, and I guess you could say an overview of Swamp's got the cross and the tremendous success that we've had.

[Speaker 1] (39:51 - 39:55)
The program has started back in 1991 by Rick Anderson,

[Speaker 1] (39:55 - 39:56)
Tom Cesar,

[Speaker 1] (39:56 - 39:57)
Art Bagnall,

[Speaker 1] (39:57 - 39:59)
and Tom Driscoll.

[Speaker 1] (39:59 - 40:03)
So the program has been around a long time and we've seen tremendous growth over the years.

[Speaker 1] (40:03 - 40:05)
We're averaging about 300.

[Speaker 1] (40:05 - 40:07)
Players year over year,

[Speaker 1] (40:07 - 40:13)
and about 20% of the students from the Swamp Scott Elementary and the middle school play the game of lacrosse.

[Speaker 1] (40:14 - 40:15)
In 2024,

[Speaker 1] (40:15 - 40:16)
it was a tremendous year.

[Speaker 1] (40:16 - 40:17)
Both the girls'

[Speaker 1] (40:17 - 40:18)
and boys'

[Speaker 1] (40:18 - 40:20)
program won the state championship down at Harvard University.

[Speaker 1] (40:21 - 40:23)
So it was awesome to see for both the girls' and the boys'

[Speaker 1] (40:24 - 40:25)
in the same year to win the state championship.

[Speaker 1] (40:26 - 40:39)
So what we're here to do is to gain approval from you folks here and Marianne on the phone of the wall that you can see. The objective behind the wall is to really, I guess you could say, a destination for kids to go and practice,

[Speaker 1] (40:39 - 40:40)
whether it be on season,

[Speaker 1] (40:40 - 40:41)
off season,

[Speaker 1] (40:41 - 40:45)
very little to no noise factor when the wall is being used by players,

[Speaker 1] (40:45 - 40:48)
highly engagable for social distancing.

[Speaker 1] (40:49 - 40:53)
It's just an overall great structure to have for the game of lacrosse, but outside lacrosse.

[Speaker 1] (40:53 - 41:20)
across soccer can use it it could be a multi-use structure there at the park i did put pictures of other communities that have a structure there being reading winchester ashland they're all relatively new beverly is i want to say about a year and a half to two years old on their side of things weston just implemented their wall within the past year to two years and then finally the proposed site on where we're looking to place it

[Speaker 1] (41:21 - 41:48)
is in between outside the practice football field and then I guess you could say along the you know the walking distance to the soccer fields that are used during the soccer Saturdays here in the fall and the spring really not intruding on any sort of space within the youth program we've gained we've gained approval from youth soccer youth football the high school coaches to really put it there for the high school lacrosse programs that are you know obviously gaining momentum year over year

[Speaker 1] (41:48 - 41:50)
here at the high school, but also our youth program.

[Speaker 1] (41:51 - 41:54)
The final page just gives you guys a general information.

[Speaker 1] (41:54 - 41:57)
The total project will be funded by Swampscott Youth Across.

[Speaker 1] (41:57 - 42:06)
Estimated cost is between twenty to twenty five thousand. Dimensions as you can see are six feet. There's gonna be three sections six feet by sixteen feet high.

[Speaker 1] (42:07 - 42:11)
Everything is going to be done by a company on the South Shore, Sitchwood Construction.

[Speaker 1] (42:11 - 42:14)
Takes about half a day for them to come up to the area.

[Speaker 1] (42:15 - 42:28)
uh without the prep work and assistance from Gino which we greatly appreciate and his team um they'll probably start at eight o'clock in the morning and be done by one or two o'clock in the afternoon, let it sit, and then uh obviously the wall be fully functional to use.

[Speaker 1] (42:28 - 42:46)
So we are hoping to use one side of the of the wall, whether it be grass or I guess you could say turf or concrete itself, just to have a different situation on the other side of things. So we're hoping for approval. Any other questions or anything like that where Jen and I are here to help you guys and go from there.

[Speaker 2] (42:47 - 42:51)
Um, Diane, would you just make the uh screen

[Speaker 2] (42:51 - 42:53)
So I could see if uh Mary Ellen has questions.

[Speaker 1] (42:54 - 43:00)
And we are hoping to get pending approval tonight from you guys is if we do gain approval we'll place the order probably by the end of next or

[Speaker 11] (43:00 - 43:00)
but

[Speaker 1] (43:00 - 43:08)
the start of next week and it takes about ten weeks for a situate to construct the wall build the wall and then deliver it. So we're probably looking at a mid-November type placement.

[Speaker 2] (43:11 - 43:12)
Does the board have any questions?

[Speaker 3] (43:12 - 43:16)
Well just technically uh what is our role here?

[Speaker 3] (43:16 - 43:19)
Town administrator takes care of things that are on town property.

[Speaker 3] (43:20 - 43:22)
So the town's not paying for anything?

[Speaker 4] (43:22 - 43:22)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 3] (43:24 - 43:28)
Are we obligating to m I mean, happy to make a vote, but I'm just just being clear about what we're

[Speaker 2] (43:29 - 43:30)
Um

[Speaker 4] (43:30 - 43:35)
I will guess so once it's constructed, and th I think you turn it over to the town, it becomes town property.

[Speaker 3] (43:35 - 43:35)
Correct.

[Speaker 4] (43:35 - 43:39)
I think maybe subsequently you're not gonna have to accept this as a gift.

[Speaker 2] (43:41 - 43:44)
Yeah, I guess there would be maintenance of it potentially over years,

[Speaker 3] (43:44 - 43:44)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (43:44 - 43:47)
so we have to consider it ours post construction.

[Speaker 5] (43:48 - 43:50)
Well, there's a couple things here.

[Speaker 5] (43:50 - 43:55)
One is we should be following the gift policy that we voted on last year.

[Speaker 5] (43:56 - 43:59)
And once we follow that policy,

[Speaker 5] (44:00 - 44:03)
then it becomes under the umbrella of the town administrator.

[Speaker 5] (44:03 - 44:05)
But first we have to receive it as a gift.

[Speaker 2] (44:07 - 44:07)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (44:07 - 44:08)
Hmm.

[Speaker 4] (44:10 - 44:11)
So you're suggesting,

[Speaker 4] (44:11 - 44:12)
Marilyn,

[Speaker 4] (44:12 - 44:16)
right tonight we would be following the gift policy and what the way we

[Speaker 3] (44:17 - 44:18)
Be accepting this

[Speaker 5] (44:19 - 44:41)
That would be my recommendation and so you know we're hearing about it well we've heard about it before I think this is our second and so I think we should follow the gift policy I only have one question on it I'm in support of it my only concern is and I've been told that there's virtually no sound that's going to come off of this my that's my only concern is if there's going to be

[Speaker 5] (44:42 - 44:46)
Um sound that's going to affect the neighbours. Otherwise I'm in total support.

[Speaker 3] (44:46 - 44:48)
No no pickleball issues here,

[Speaker 1] (44:48 - 44:49)
No pickleball issues, I assure you.

[Speaker 1] (44:49 - 44:50)
I see you're talking.

[Speaker 1] (44:50 - 44:51)
No, Don't don't need no

[Speaker 2] (44:51 - 44:53)
I heard many a lacrosse ball hit my house.

[Speaker 1] (44:53 - 44:53)
That's

[Speaker 2] (44:53 - 44:59)
Uh it's a very solid ball, it's not hollow, so it doesn't reverberate the sound in the same way.

[Speaker 3] (44:59 - 44:59)
Just dense.

[Speaker 6] (44:59 - 45:00)
It does it

[Speaker 2] (45:00 - 45:00)
Dense.

[Speaker 6] (45:00 - 45:02)
does on uh vinyl siding, I will tell you

[Speaker 2] (45:02 - 45:02)
Well

[Speaker 6] (45:02 - 45:02)
that.

[Speaker 3] (45:02 - 45:02)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (45:02 - 45:02)
yeah, that's

[Speaker 1] (45:02 - 45:02)
Yes,

[Speaker 3] (45:02 - 45:03)
True.

[Speaker 1] (45:03 - 45:03)
then

[Speaker 6] (45:03 - 45:03)
It will can definitely bounce,

[Speaker 1] (45:03 - 45:04)
make a but sound.

[Speaker 6] (45:04 - 45:04)
yeah.

[Speaker 1] (45:04 - 45:05)
Yeah, glass and vinyl siding, yes.

[Speaker 6] (45:05 - 45:06)
Not on the wall.

[Speaker 1] (45:06 - 45:07)
But on a cement wall,

[Speaker 3] (45:07 - 45:07)
Alright.

[Speaker 1] (45:07 - 45:07)
no.

[Speaker 5] (45:07 - 45:07)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (45:07 - 45:08)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (45:10 - 45:14)
I'm supportive of this. I think this is fantastic and thank you for bringing to our

[Speaker 1] (45:14 - 45:14)
No,

[Speaker 3] (45:14 - 45:15)
to our

[Speaker 1] (45:15 - 45:17)
thank you very much for listening and having us tonight.

[Speaker 1] (45:17 - 45:19)
Thank you, Gina, for all the help that you've provided us.

[Speaker 2] (45:20 - 45:26)
I think this will be an excellent addition to Phillips Park and will,

[Speaker 2] (45:26 - 45:29)
you know, the Phelan family is a

[Speaker 2] (45:29 - 45:31)
Both of my kids play youth lacrosse,

[Speaker 3] (45:31 - 45:32)
That's great.

[Speaker 2] (45:32 - 45:47)
so I appreciate you having a space and thinking about future lacrosse players having a space to cultivate their skills and the fact that it's multifunctional is even better and that's great that soccer or other teams might be able to utilize it too,

[Speaker 2] (45:47 - 45:51)
so I am certainly in favor.

[Speaker 3] (45:52 - 45:53)
Yeah, likewise.

[Speaker 1] (45:53 - 45:53)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (45:53 - 45:56)
For me, it's I'm sorry, I kind of jumped over that. It's just the practicalities of

[Speaker 2] (45:56 - 45:56)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (45:56 - 46:00)
exactly how and what we're approving and what the motion is.

[Speaker 3] (46:00 - 46:03)
That's more where I was jumping to.

[Speaker 2] (46:04 - 46:05)
So then um

[Speaker 2] (46:06 - 46:10)
Do we wanna make a motion to um

[Speaker 2] (46:12 - 46:16)
I guess make a motion to accept it as a gift post construction?

[Speaker 2] (46:16 - 46:17)
Or do we have

[Speaker 5] (46:17 - 46:17)
Five

[Speaker 2] (46:17 - 46:17)
to wait?

[Speaker 5] (46:17 - 46:20)
well can I can I make a recommendation that we

[Speaker 2] (46:20 - 46:20)
Please.

[Speaker 5] (46:20 - 46:32)
put it back on the put it back on the agenda just double check the gift policy and then at our next meeting as long as we're in compliance with the gift policy that we just voted in just

[Speaker 5] (46:35 - 46:37)
to make sure we're doing everything we're supposed to be doing

[Speaker 1] (46:37 - 46:40)
So this can two weeks, so this could potentially be a consent agenda item.

[Speaker 6] (46:40 - 46:41)
Did he say

[Speaker 2] (46:41 - 46:41)
Yeah,

[Speaker 6] (46:41 - 46:41)
consent?

[Speaker 2] (46:41 - 46:42)
I just don't want it to wait another

[Speaker 1] (46:42 - 46:43)
I don't

[Speaker 2] (46:43 - 46:43)
two weeks.

[Speaker 1] (46:43 - 46:43)
N yeah.

[Speaker 5] (46:43 - 46:43)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (46:43 - 46:44)
I I

[Speaker 2] (46:45 - 46:55)
I guess, Mary Ellen, yes, we could do that, but I don't want to delay their progress. So, I mean do you believe this is in any way against the gift policy at all?

[Speaker 5] (46:56 - 46:58)
Um, I don't want to delay their progress either, but this is the

[Speaker 5] (47:00 - 47:24)
of it's coming out saying we definitely want to do this before it was an idea and I just want to make sure if there are any other any neighbors out there that aren't in support of it that they have the opportunity to come out and say I'm not in support of it I also want to make sure that we're doing everything the correct way and keep in mind I am in I am in support of anything that's going to make our kids better at their endeavors.

[Speaker 2] (47:25 - 47:35)
Yep, I totally align with what you're saying other than the fact that it was on the agenda and posted today so anybody could come out and have spoken as a neighbor for or against the

[Speaker 2] (47:35 - 47:49)
the wall. So delaying it one, two weeks is not going to allow them additional opportunity to do that. It's also been on the agenda once before. So people could have emailed or reached out to us if they thought it was a bad dea idea at that time. Um

[Speaker 1] (47:49 - 47:58)
We're also getting into winter at at that point where construction of a cement structure could be implemented or delayed due to weather.

[Speaker 2] (47:58 - 48:02)
Yeah, what if we do this? What if we what if I entertain a motion to approve it?

[Speaker 2] (48:02 - 48:16)
Conditioned upon our the chair of the vice chairs review of the gift policy and so long as nothing is egregiously against the gift policy, we'll consider that vote to approve it, and if it is we'll bring it back in the agenda in the next two weeks.

[Speaker 3] (48:17 - 48:19)
Yeah, I think that it's true.

[Speaker 3] (48:18 - 48:21)
tries to thread the needle, um

[Speaker 2] (48:21 - 48:21)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (48:21 - 48:27)
as long as you all kind of, you know, maybe don't place the order tomorrow like let's make sure that we cover

[Speaker 2] (48:27 - 48:27)
Can we

[Speaker 3] (48:27 - 48:28)
all we have yeah.

[Speaker 2] (48:28 - 48:29)
get one of us twenty four hours just

[Speaker 1] (48:29 - 48:29)
Yeah, absolutely,

[Speaker 2] (48:29 - 48:30)
to make sure?

[Speaker 1] (48:30 - 48:33)
absolutely. Geno's got my contact information, so no

[Speaker 3] (48:33 - 48:33)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (48:33 - 48:34)
problem at all, and

[Speaker 2] (48:34 - 48:38)
We'll look at the gift policy tomorrow just make sure there's nothing uh glaring and

[Speaker 3] (48:38 - 48:38)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (48:38 - 48:44)
it follows the process and so long as it does we will consider the vote to have approved. If it doesn't, we will bring it back to make sure it is

[Speaker 2] (48:45 - 48:47)
And Gina will work with you to make sure that that happens.

[Speaker 1] (48:47 - 48:48)
Perfect.

[Speaker 2] (48:48 - 48:50)
I mean we won't delay you if we are, if we don't have to.

[Speaker 1] (48:50 - 48:51)
Perfect, thank you.

[Speaker 2] (48:52 - 48:54)
So does somebody wanna make s a similar motion?

[Speaker 1] (48:55 - 48:55)
So moved.

[Speaker 3] (48:56 - 48:57)
Second.

[Speaker 2] (48:57 - 48:59)
Um roll call, Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 5] (49:00 - 49:01)
I.

[Speaker 2] (49:01 - 49:01)
Doug?

[Speaker 1] (49:01 - 49:02)
I.

[Speaker 2] (49:02 - 49:02)
David?

[Speaker 1] (49:02 - 49:03)
I.

[Speaker 2] (49:03 - 49:05)
I am an aye. Very good. Thank you

[Speaker 1] (49:05 - 49:05)
Perfect,

[Speaker 2] (49:05 - 49:05)
to all

[Speaker 1] (49:05 - 49:05)
thank you so

[Speaker 2] (49:05 - 49:06)
very

[Speaker 1] (49:06 - 49:06)
much,

[Speaker 2] (49:06 - 49:06)
much Guys. for

[Speaker 3] (49:06 - 49:06)
Thank

[Speaker 1] (49:06 - 49:06)
Uh

[Speaker 2] (49:06 - 49:06)
this

[Speaker 3] (49:06 - 49:07)
thank you. you very much.

[Speaker 2] (49:07 - 49:09)
and all the other hard work you put in for our kids.

[Speaker 6] (49:10 - 49:10)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (49:10 - 49:11)
It's a lot of fun.

[Speaker 2] (49:15 - 49:16)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (49:22 - 49:22)
Chino.

[Speaker 4] (49:23 - 49:24)
Next up.

[Speaker 2] (49:24 - 49:24)
Next up.

[Speaker 2] (49:26 - 49:27)
The P_W_ update.

[Speaker 4] (49:28 - 49:28)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (49:30 - 49:32)
Gonna wait for Diane to pull up the PowerPoint.

[Speaker 3] (49:32 - 49:34)
Do you wanna put it on different CAD

[Speaker 4] (49:34 - 49:34)
Cap,

[Speaker 3] (49:34 - 49:34)
or anything,

[Speaker 4] (49:34 - 49:34)
yes.

[Speaker 3] (49:34 - 49:35)
you wanna You different

[Speaker 2] (49:35 - 49:35)
wanna switch

[Speaker 3] (49:35 - 49:35)
settings?

[Speaker 2] (49:35 - 49:35)
seats?

[Speaker 3] (49:35 - 49:36)
Different everything. Different, no,

[Speaker 4] (49:36 - 49:38)
You don't need all that, right?

[Speaker 4] (49:39 - 49:39)
Soon enough.

[Speaker 1] (49:39 - 49:39)
Soon enough.

[Speaker 2] (49:43 - 49:44)
Alright.

[Speaker 1] (49:45 - 49:51)
Alright, two weeks ago we saw presentations from police, fire and community development.

[Speaker 1] (49:52 - 49:53)
So now it's D_P_W_'s turn.

[Speaker 1] (49:56 - 49:57)
Next slide, please.

[Speaker 1] (50:03 - 50:22)
So this is pretty much just a breakdown of the department. I'll see the director of public works then underneath me uh business manager, the new assistant engineer, clerical staff, Jean Whalen, and then under there we have four working foremen in the dpw. One of it's the water department foreman, Brian Martin,

[Speaker 1] (50:22 - 50:24)
Evan Siegel is our fleet foreman,

[Speaker 1] (50:25 - 50:31)
aka our mechanic. Will Torres, cemetery foreman and Steve Kent is our forestry foreman.

[Speaker 1] (50:31 - 50:42)
These guys are in charge. Then the crews that you see underneath divided up to the work underneath these guys on a regular basis. So as you can see, we have

[Speaker 1] (50:43 - 50:55)
in the blue, one two three four five six seven M_E_O_S_s. So an M_E_O_S_ is a labourer, mechanical equipment operator, as well as a CDL operator.

[Speaker 1] (50:57 - 51:06)
Underneath that you'll see the three orange ones, those are M_E_O_H_s, and that means they either have the C_D_L_ or they've hoist and licence, but not both.

[Speaker 1] (51:06 - 51:10)
And then we have three labourers who don't have either of those licences.

[Speaker 1] (51:11 - 51:20)
And then part of this list, I don't know if it's no, we have four of our workers have D_ two water licences, to work in the water department. Next slide.

[Speaker 1] (51:22 - 51:42)
This is staff longevity. I stole this one from Reuben, last two weeks following up him. You can see it it has the longevity. And the interesting part of this, and I think you've heard me mention this one on one occasion, is I have right now sixteen, sorry, nineteen individuals that work underneath me, and I've hired every single one of them.

[Speaker 5] (51:42 - 51:42)
Hmm.

[Speaker 1] (51:42 - 51:43)
Which

[Speaker 1] (51:44 - 52:04)
In the old days, when somebody got a D_P_W_ job they were there for thirty forty years. Now we have a lot of young guys. And then I noted that uh sixty three percent of the staff has under five years service working for the town. Good news is, uh as people have attested to while we've been picking up the recycling, just a lot of good guys that are hard workers and

[Speaker 1] (52:05 - 52:09)
Beauty of it is they all get along for the most part, which makes my job a lot easier.

[Speaker 6] (52:09 - 52:10)
And nice.

[Speaker 1] (52:10 - 52:10)
And yeah,

[Speaker 6] (52:10 - 52:12)
nice polite, yes.

[Speaker 7] (52:12 - 52:15)
Yeah, great guys. And Natalie.

[Speaker 1] (52:15 - 52:16)
Natalie.

[Speaker 6] (52:17 - 52:18)
And she.

[Speaker 1] (52:18 - 52:18)
And she.

[Speaker 7] (52:18 - 52:18)
Yeah, and Shane,

[Speaker 1] (52:18 - 52:19)
Shane is

[Speaker 7] (52:19 - 52:19)
yeah.

[Speaker 1] (52:19 - 52:25)
great, yep. So here's some of the highlights. We can even slip over the next one. This past spring

[Speaker 1] (52:26 - 52:28)
Oh, it's the next one more.

[Speaker 7] (52:28 - 52:29)
Oh my,

[Speaker 1] (52:29 - 52:29)
We skip

[Speaker 7] (52:29 - 52:29)
sorry.

[Speaker 1] (52:29 - 52:31)
over the highlights. Go right over to the Pavan project.

[Speaker 1] (52:32 - 52:43)
So it was starting in in April of last year and then it was wrapped up in within a six week to eight week project we milled and repaved twenty nine roadways and swabs got I'm not going to list them all, but those are the roadways right there.

[Speaker 1] (52:45 - 52:47)
Uh I guess it said oh

[Speaker 1] (52:48 - 53:04)
Pave, mill and pave in those roadways, I think the estimate came in a little bit under what we proposed. So we spent about eight hundred thousand dollars. We still have about two or three hundred thousand dollars left and that's the money I hope to use to do Atlantic Ave from what we previously talked about.

[Speaker 1] (53:04 - 53:05)
I need to get a quote on that.

[Speaker 1] (53:07 - 53:15)
And obviously when we pave these projects we try to coordinate them with water work, sewer work and unfortunately some of that hasn't worked out.

[Speaker 1] (53:15 - 53:23)
the vast with uh the sewer work going on around King Street that they pay some of those streets, but we didn't know the condition of the sewer pipes. Next slide.

[Speaker 1] (53:26 - 53:42)
This is a great project with the use of ARPA funds. One point seven million dollars worth of ARPA funds was the Marshall Street Outfall improvements which wrapped up about four weeks ago. You can see approximately seven hundred ten linear feet of eight inch and ten inch sewer main was relined.

[Speaker 1] (53:43 - 54:05)
twelve hundred one and eight feet of six and eight inch sewer main replacement with P_V_C_ What happens when we're doing these projects, you can't realign a broken pipe. So what we uh C_C_T_V_ means we camera all the pipes. If they're good, we can just line 'em. If there's broken segments, you've probably been out on Essex Street the past couple weeks, all those patches, that fix that piece of pipe prior to us lining it.

[Speaker 1] (54:08 - 54:12)
Rehabilitated fifty six sewer laterals and thirty one sewer and drain manholes.

[Speaker 6] (54:13 - 54:15)
Yeah, that's a real, that's just, that's not a stock photo.

[Speaker 1] (54:15 - 54:18)
That is a piece of sewer pipe that we took out and replaced.

[Speaker 1] (54:19 - 54:19)
Yup.

[Speaker 6] (54:19 - 54:19)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (54:21 - 54:21)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (54:21 - 54:26)
And we we haven't gotten the final results, uh we've not we've done some testing,.

[Speaker 1] (54:26 - 54:31)
Steinfeld is gonna have to come out and do some additional testing. But the results we're getting from doing our in-house testing is w

[Speaker 8] (54:31 - 54:32)
Oh.

[Speaker 1] (54:32 - 54:36)
dur dramatically improved the bacteria going out on the fishermen's beach.

[Speaker 1] (54:36 - 54:37)
I was this

[Speaker 6] (54:37 - 54:37)
Marshall

[Speaker 1] (54:37 - 54:37)
close

[Speaker 6] (54:37 - 54:37)
Street.

[Speaker 1] (54:37 - 54:39)
I Marshel Street right at the outfall.

[Speaker 9] (54:40 - 54:40)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (54:40 - 54:43)
This close to moving the paddleboard programme back over there.

[Speaker 6] (54:43 - 54:44)
Mm.

[Speaker 1] (54:44 - 54:47)
But I just wanted to firm up the results before I did that.

[Speaker 7] (54:48 - 54:50)
Can you speak on the laterals a little bit? We're still

[Speaker 1] (54:50 - 54:50)
Yep,

[Speaker 1] (54:51 - 54:51)
We're still doing

[Speaker 7] (54:51 - 54:52)
doing them all?

[Speaker 1] (54:52 - 54:54)
kind of doing them all. I

[Speaker 7] (54:54 - 54:54)
Kind of

[Speaker 1] (54:54 - 54:58)
mean do the ones that pass over cross over the drain.

[Speaker 7] (54:58 - 54:59)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (54:59 - 55:03)
So if you're lucky enough to live on one side of the street where your sewer ladder goes over the drain,

[Speaker 1] (55:04 - 55:06)
we replace the ladder. If you're on the opposite side,

[Speaker 6] (55:07 - 55:11)
Unfortunately, we do not do that because I just can't justify it.

[Speaker 7] (55:11 - 55:11)
Yep.

[Speaker 6] (55:12 - 55:23)
And I've said from the beginning it wasn't an easy decision, but uh from the beginning it's seemed to me it would have been crazy to spend all this money and not do the laterals and then not get the results of spending all that money.

[Speaker 6] (55:24 - 55:33)
I know the laterals are the um owned by the home owner, but with us trying to get somebody to pay to do those, it just

[Speaker 1] (55:34 - 55:34)
So we decided to do it.

[Speaker 7] (55:35 - 55:36)
Okay just wanna make sure.

[Speaker 1] (55:37 - 55:37)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (55:38 - 55:38)
Let's

[Speaker 1] (55:39 - 55:40)
Next slide, please.

[Speaker 7] (55:44 - 55:45)
It's like teenage mutant ninja turtles

[Speaker 1] (55:45 - 55:45)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (55:45 - 55:46)
or something.

[Speaker 1] (55:46 - 55:46)
Next one.

[Speaker 1] (55:49 - 56:00)
So is anybody that's been out on Essex Street in the last couple of weeks and surrounding streets Phase 2A of the sewer rehab Stacy Brook Rehabilitation Project started last month.

[Speaker 1] (56:00 - 56:15)
National Watermain was the low bidder. With our price of two point seven million dollars, I think we appropriated three point five, so we're gonna be looking to do some changes. But we always hit change orders anyway, so I like to leave that little bit of a buffer.

[Speaker 1] (56:16 - 56:30)
So some of the streets that have been worked on as I just mentioned Essex Street, Hillcrest Circle, all the areas surrounding basically the train depot. So phase one A we worked our way from the ocean working back and now we're working farther back into the system.

[Speaker 1] (56:32 - 56:34)
Project construction ongoing.

[Speaker 1] (56:34 - 56:44)
We update our progress weekly or at least bi-weekly on the DPW web page. We did that for the Marshall Street project too and gotten a lot of positive results or feedback from.

[Speaker 1] (56:45 - 56:46)
put all the information on the website.

[Speaker 10] (56:47 - 56:52)
Gino, just about so phase two A_ uh Pine Street's on there.

[Speaker 1] (56:52 - 56:53)
Yep.

[Speaker 10] (56:53 - 56:58)
Was wasn't there a grant that was authorised for Boynton and Pine Street? Is that is that accurate?

[Speaker 1] (56:58 - 57:01)
No, I think she was trying to get the grant, but I don't think we got

[Speaker 10] (57:01 - 57:03)
We it. didn't we didn't get it, we Okay, just so we applied for it,

[Speaker 1] (57:03 - 57:03)
Reapplied

[Speaker 10] (57:03 - 57:04)
we just it. it just wasn't okay.

[Speaker 1] (57:04 - 57:05)
Right.

[Speaker 10] (57:05 - 57:06)
But that's that's all part of two A_

[Speaker 1] (57:06 - 57:08)
That is part of two A_

[Speaker 10] (57:08 - 57:08)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (57:08 - 57:10)
And what we did find

[Speaker 1] (57:11 - 57:22)
We used to have some issues with the sewer overflowing on Pine Street. We did some camera work and that's one of our main trunk lines that goes from there to the pump station filled with debris because it hadn't been cleaned in years.

[Speaker 1] (57:23 - 57:32)
National Water Main came out, cameraed it and cleaned it and the amount of debris they took out of there was phenomenal. So I think we've resolved a lot of the issue just by cleaning the main,

[Speaker 1] (57:32 - 57:34)
the 18 inch main that

[Speaker 10] (57:34 - 57:34)
Excellent.

[Speaker 1] (57:34 - 57:37)
probably half the capacity was filled with debris.

[Speaker 6] (57:39 - 57:45)
So this is commencement of phase two A_ or like so this is the three point five you mentioned,

[Speaker 1] (57:45 - 57:45)
Yep.

[Speaker 6] (57:45 - 57:49)
with timing just uh for everyone's sake. This is cleaning up King's Beach

[Speaker 6] (57:50 - 57:51)
or basically Continuing and stuff,

[Speaker 1] (57:51 - 57:51)
to

[Speaker 6] (57:51 - 57:51)
right?

[Speaker 1] (57:51 - 57:51)
clean up

[Speaker 6] (57:51 - 57:51)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (57:51 - 57:52)
King's Beach, yep.

[Speaker 6] (57:52 - 57:56)
Right, continuing, yep. So rough estimate of timing for this?

[Speaker 1] (57:56 - 57:57)
For this two A_

[Speaker 6] (57:57 - 57:57)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (57:57 - 58:01)
it's probably gonna go into the spring of next year. They're

[Speaker 6] (58:01 - 58:01)
Okay,

[Speaker 1] (58:01 - 58:01)
gonna we it

[Speaker 6] (58:01 - 58:03)
we can do this through the winter?

[Speaker 1] (58:03 - 58:05)
can do the curing place right through the winter, yep.

[Speaker 6] (58:05 - 58:05)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (58:07 - 58:07)
Sorry,

[Speaker 1] (58:07 - 58:07)
So

[Speaker 7] (58:07 - 58:12)
sorry Diane, could you just show me Marilyn so I could see if she's also have comments, please? Thank you.

[Speaker 7] (58:13 - 58:13)
Oh,

[Speaker 6] (58:13 - 58:16)
In uh you

[Speaker 1] (58:16 - 58:16)
So

[Speaker 6] (58:16 - 58:22)
you're you're saying that you think um all of two A will be done by next spring?

[Speaker 1] (58:22 - 58:23)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (58:24 - 58:25)
Yep.

[Speaker 6] (58:26 - 58:28)
Do we we don't do we have a two B?

[Speaker 7] (58:29 - 58:30)
We have a three.

[Speaker 6] (58:30 - 58:31)
Or not to

[Speaker 1] (58:31 - 58:31)
No.

[Speaker 6] (58:31 - 58:34)
or not to be. Right exactly. We can't m we have have we talked about a two We B?

[Speaker 1] (58:34 - 58:36)
haven't talked about two B is

[Speaker 1] (58:37 - 58:44)
the SRF funding what we just received. So there is a plan to do two B_ put it out to bid after we finish this one.

[Speaker 6] (58:45 - 58:47)
And that will go like further up or

[Speaker 1] (58:47 - 58:47)
Uh yep.

[Speaker 6] (58:47 - 58:48)
okay.

[Speaker 6] (58:50 - 58:51)
And that would be it?

[Speaker 6] (58:52 - 58:53)
Two B_ is the end?

[Speaker 1] (58:53 - 58:54)
No.

[Speaker 6] (58:54 - 58:54)
No?

[Speaker 1] (58:54 - 58:55)
No, the

[Speaker 7] (58:55 - 58:55)
There

[Speaker 1] (58:55 - 58:55)
project

[Speaker 6] (58:55 - 58:56)
is still more geometry after

[Speaker 1] (58:56 - 58:56)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (58:56 - 58:57)
two

[Speaker 7] (58:57 - 58:57)
No,

[Speaker 6] (58:57 - 58:57)
B_

[Speaker 7] (58:57 - 58:57)
end.

[Speaker 6] (58:57 - 58:57)
okay.

[Speaker 1] (58:57 - 59:00)
Two P_ and then maybe three A_

[Speaker 6] (59:00 - 59:01)
Okay, maybe, okay.

[Speaker 1] (59:01 - 59:01)
Maybe.

[Speaker 6] (59:01 - 59:02)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (59:02 - 59:07)
So we continue to test along the way with the hope that we resolve most of the issues.

[Speaker 6] (59:08 - 59:08)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (59:09 - 59:13)
Mary Ellen, did you have something? Sorry, 'cause I couldn't see if your hand was raised.

[Speaker 12] (59:15 - 59:17)
Uh the only question I have is on the S_R_F_ loan,

[Speaker 1] (59:17 - 59:18)
Yep.

[Speaker 12] (59:18 - 59:22)
that application was supposed to go in this month. Are we on target with getting that in there?

[Speaker 1] (59:22 - 59:23)
We are. Yep.

[Speaker 12] (59:24 - 59:24)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (59:24 - 59:25)
You're welcome.

[Speaker 7] (59:25 - 59:34)
Um the only questions the only question I have on this page is the Banks Road commentary. Is is it all the way down to Walker? 'Cause isn't that where the trouble spot we thought the trouble spot was?

[Speaker 6] (59:34 - 59:34)
The tra

[Speaker 2] (59:34 - 59:35)
The trouble spots

[Speaker 1] (59:35 - 59:35)
pretty bad?

[Speaker 2] (59:35 - 59:36)
actually after Walker. It's

[Speaker 1] (59:36 - 59:37)
Oh it's

[Speaker 2] (59:37 - 59:38)
in Banks circle

[Speaker 1] (59:38 - 59:38)
Lower

[Speaker 2] (59:38 - 59:39)
then back. to Farragut road.

[Speaker 1] (59:39 - 59:40)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (59:40 - 59:40)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (59:40 - 59:45)
And have we had any additional like work down there to figure out what's

[Speaker 2] (59:46 - 59:49)
That's part of two way. We haven't started that, but it is definitely in

[Speaker 1] (59:49 - 59:49)
It's definitely on there.

[Speaker 2] (59:49 - 59:50)
yeah, the scope

[Speaker 1] (59:50 - 59:50)
Right.

[Speaker 2] (59:50 - 59:51)
of two way.

[Speaker 1] (59:51 - 59:52)
Perfect.

[Speaker 2] (59:58 - 59:58)
Yep

[Speaker 1] (59:58 - 59:59)
Yes, sorry.

[Speaker 1] (59:59 - 1:00:01)
Is there a way you could show it and I could still see Mary Ellen,

[Speaker 1] (1:00:01 - 1:00:01)
Diane?

[Speaker 3] (1:00:02 - 1:00:03)
Not that I know of.

[Speaker 1] (1:00:03 - 1:00:03)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:00:04 - 1:00:06)
Mary Ellen, just unmute yourself and holler.

[Speaker 1] (1:00:07 - 1:00:09)
Because I can't see your face.

[Speaker 3] (1:00:09 - 1:00:10)
Okay, I'm good.

[Speaker 3] (1:00:10 - 1:00:10)
I'm

[Speaker 1] (1:00:10 - 1:00:10)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:00:10 - 1:00:11)
good.

[Speaker 3] (1:00:11 - 1:00:16)
Sometimes I'm going to have to take myself off the screen if I have to move these puppies,

[Speaker 3] (1:00:16 - 1:00:16)
okay?

[Speaker 1] (1:00:16 - 1:00:17)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:00:17 - 1:00:19)
But I'll just scream out to you.

[Speaker 2] (1:00:21 - 1:00:23)
X is up. We're going to talk about the UV pilot program.

[Speaker 2] (1:00:25 - 1:00:29)
which wrapped up on Monday of this week.

[Speaker 2] (1:00:30 - 1:00:36)
So basically we ended the pilot program-neutral agreement between all the parties involved,

[Speaker 2] (1:00:37 - 1:00:37)
myself,

[Speaker 2] (1:00:38 - 1:00:38)
the mayor of Lynn,

[Speaker 2] (1:00:39 - 1:00:41)
and Kleinfelder.

[Speaker 2] (1:00:41 - 1:00:52)
It was we felt that we got as much information as we possibly could get from that with the exception of during this entire time we never got that one big storm that we were hoping to get.

[Speaker 2] (1:00:52 - 1:00:57)
to see how effective it would be during a one-inch, two-inch rainstorm.

[Speaker 4] (1:00:57 - 1:00:57)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (1:00:57 - 1:01:01)
Could we get a big storm in the next two weeks?

[Speaker 2] (1:01:01 - 1:01:10)
Mip possibly, no guarantee. So because we're starting to override the cost of this, we decided to stop the two weeks plus the added

[Speaker 2] (1:01:11 - 1:01:14)
fact of stopping the noise. So the neighbours were happy with that.

[Speaker 2] (1:01:15 - 1:01:36)
If you've driven by their down by there today, they've started removing the fencing, the Jersey barriers, the pumps will be gone this week, the generator will be gone. The only thing that could be left is the U_V_ tank itself, as I was saying to David earlier, that has to go back up to Canada, so we have to coordinate getting the crane, trailer and then it back to Canada.

[Speaker 1] (1:01:37 - 1:01:38)
That's part of the covered cost though.

[Speaker 2] (1:01:38 - 1:01:40)
Oh, I'll cover it, yep we

[Speaker 2] (1:01:41 - 1:01:45)
It made it abundantly clear that we committed to three hundred and that's what we were getting.

[Speaker 1] (1:01:46 - 1:01:46)
Very good.

[Speaker 2] (1:01:46 - 1:02:00)
But it was wasn't contentious, he agreed. He said we have options and I may have thought it was wasn't a bad idea to stop it because he's getting more heat than us about the noise because that generator is located in there, not so to uh.

[Speaker 1] (1:02:00 - 1:02:01)
Mm.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:01 - 1:02:09)
And as and then as far as just follow-up like steps for the public, that that will be at a meeting in September September, or early yep. October? Yep.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:09 - 1:02:16)
Exactly. September early October clientele is going to start getting all the results. They're going to put a report together and then we're going to have follow-up meetings.

[Speaker 5] (1:02:17 - 1:02:18)
Thanks.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:19 - 1:02:20)
Next slide, please.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:21 - 1:02:23)
You've driven around town,

[Speaker 2] (1:02:23 - 1:02:24)
this is one of our proudest accomplishments.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:26 - 1:02:31)
We have planted forty three new street trees. That was just by the D_P_W_ staff this spring.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:32 - 1:02:40)
And then fifty new train trees were planted by Leahy landscape and as part of a grant that Masi acquired, which should not be a surprise.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:41 - 1:02:47)
She's great at that. And so part of Leahy's deal with that contract is he owns those trees for two years.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:48 - 1:02:55)
So we put that in, he has to water them and if something dies within two years they have to replace them. So it's in his best interest to water them.

[Speaker 2] (1:02:55 - 1:03:10)
It's been a very dry spring this year. You can see we put all the gator bags on our trees. I think we have lost a couple of them, maybe one right across the street from the town hall and maybe one of the memorial trees in Moonscot Park and we'll wait to the fall to replace them.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:12 - 1:03:26)
As liaison to the Tree Committee I would be remiss if I did not ask the public to please adopt the trees of the DPW plants and help water them because that could solve some of these issues, especially during dry spells when the DPW

[Speaker 2] (1:03:26 - 1:03:26)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:26 - 1:03:28)
can't get out of there, but can't get to water fast enough.

[Speaker 2] (1:03:28 - 1:03:35)
Yeah, we've been filling them at least two, sometimes three times a week. I was using the summer help, but summer help's last day was last Friday.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:35 - 1:03:37)
So please water your trees.

[Speaker 2] (1:03:39 - 1:03:43)
next slide please an interesting stat about FY 25.

[Speaker 2] (1:03:44 - 1:04:05)
We have cemetery foreman, and you'll see at least one other employees mostly children that work in the cemetery on a daily basis, not just cutting the grass and weed whacking would sometimes get a hits ahead of us when if you look at the numbers there, forty full burials and seventy three cremation interments for the past fiscal year. So that hundred fifteen burials.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:05 - 1:04:07)
We took care of last year in the cemetery.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:08 - 1:04:11)
Just an interesting fact that I always like to bring up is,

[Speaker 2] (1:04:11 - 1:04:21)
it started twenty years ago if we did a hundred burials, ninety of them would be full body burials. Now you can see it's flipped, it's almost only fifty percent,

[Speaker 2] (1:04:22 - 1:04:31)
which is good for us in a way because saving space and then too it's a lot less expensive for the families.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:33 - 1:04:38)
And then finally, I have to give my guys credit for this one here.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:39 - 1:04:45)
DPW staff has been working really hard, getting rid of recycling.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:46 - 1:04:51)
First week we started it, we took trash. Second weekend was trash and recycling.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:51 - 1:04:55)
But now the trash is getting picked up almost completely.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:55 - 1:04:58)
There's still missing streets every now and there.

[Speaker 2] (1:04:58 - 1:05:00)
They're missing homes. They're calling in.

[Speaker 2] (1:05:00 - 1:05:05)
They come back to do the streets. We pick up the home that hasn't been taken care of.

[Speaker 2] (1:05:05 - 1:05:09)
And the reason that is, is the staff that they use and is flying in from all over the country.

[Speaker 2] (1:05:11 - 1:05:18)
They'll come in for a couple weeks then they'll go back so we don't have any consistency with someone doing the routes. Typical Monday,

[Speaker 2] (1:05:18 - 1:05:19)
Tuesday,

[Speaker 2] (1:05:19 - 1:05:21)
Wednesday we have two trucks out, one will do trash,

[Speaker 2] (1:05:22 - 1:05:35)
one is recycling because they're not getting out of the yards quick enough because they're being delayed by the teamsters they don't know the routes want two trucks working exclusively on trash which isn't perfect and

[Speaker 2] (1:05:36 - 1:05:58)
As I say kudos to the staff on this past weekend it's like the weekend prior that's a thirty yard dumpster there that we are filling with recycling and compacting it down as best we can with the backhoe just keep pushing it down and on a o average weekend thirteen of those dumpsters get filled thirteen thirty yard dumpsters with recycling.

[Speaker 2] (1:05:59 - 1:06:02)
So we're collecting a lot more recycling than we are.

[Speaker 2] (1:06:02 - 1:06:03)
Perhaps I believe.

[Speaker 1] (1:06:04 - 1:06:04)
Oh

[Speaker 2] (1:06:04 - 1:06:09)
But I'm not sure about the weight because what I've been told is that dumpster right there probably only weighs two ton.

[Speaker 2] (1:06:10 - 1:06:12)
So there's a lot of plastics in there.

[Speaker 1] (1:06:12 - 1:06:13)
That's a light things

[Speaker 2] (1:06:13 - 1:06:13)
That's

[Speaker 1] (1:06:13 - 1:06:13)
inside.

[Speaker 2] (1:06:13 - 1:06:13)
right.

[Speaker 2] (1:06:16 - 1:06:34)
And just, you know, I guess the the obvious, like, I mean it's amazing uh what we're doing to try to react to this. But um you know I mean I do see, you know, people uh I know personally the the recycling stuff is kind of like getting to be a little bit

[Speaker 2] (1:06:36 - 1:06:45)
Of a pain um one way or another, and you know a lot of people I'm seeing are just throwing it in the trash now um because they just wanna get rid of it.

[Speaker 2] (1:06:46 - 1:06:54)
And uh so and we have just no end in sight to th you know when this is all gonna end, um

[Speaker 2] (1:06:55 - 1:07:05)
And I talked to a representative today and he said there's really no end in sight. He had actually offered me two recycling trucks to come into town a week ago Saturday.

[Speaker 2] (1:07:05 - 1:07:10)
And he said we could probably complete, what's that, two fifths of the town,

[Speaker 2] (1:07:10 - 1:07:12)
forty percent of the town. And that's it.

[Speaker 2] (1:07:13 - 1:07:20)
I said no way. I said you're just gonna drive around hand pick, my phone's gonna run off the hook, why did you do such and such a street and not

[Speaker 2] (1:07:20 - 1:07:29)
Could we could we is that a is that a weekly thing we could have you know do forty percent one week and forty percent another week and forty percent another week? Is that like you know something?

[Speaker 6] (1:07:30 - 1:07:31)
Over time to consider?

[Speaker 2] (1:07:32 - 1:07:34)
Potentially, yep.

[Speaker 2] (1:07:35 - 1:07:41)
Because I brought up the fact, because everybody reminds me that comes into the recycling over the weekend that Marblehead's now picking up recycling.

[Speaker 2] (1:07:42 - 1:07:48)
I'm sure you probably heard that. They get and there's two reasons for that. Number one, they have their own transfer station.

[Speaker 6] (1:07:48 - 1:07:48)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (1:07:48 - 1:07:54)
So all their trash is being picked up and dropped at the transfer station. Is going out to north Andover

[Speaker 6] (1:07:54 - 1:07:54)
So

[Speaker 2] (1:07:54 - 1:07:54)
now.

[Speaker 6] (1:07:54 - 1:07:55)
they can get back and forth quick,

[Speaker 2] (1:07:55 - 1:07:55)
Quicker.

[Speaker 6] (1:07:55 - 1:07:55)
right? Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:07:55 - 1:08:00)
So they have their truck for that. But then there was a couple of stipulations involved with that too, with the recycling.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:00 - 1:08:02)
It was no more than one barrel and

[Speaker 6] (1:08:02 - 1:08:03)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:03 - 1:08:05)
still going to be another lot.

[Speaker 6] (1:08:06 - 1:08:06)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:06 - 1:08:16)
We're talking about, actually Diane brought this up to me and I'm going to work, now that the school's going to start up again with maybe some of the sports, football,

[Speaker 2] (1:08:16 - 1:08:28)
soccer and what not, to see if they have individuals that are looking for some volunteer time, if somebody has a pickup truck and that elderly person can call up and say, you know, there's no way I can get my recycling to the yard.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:29 - 1:08:30)
if we can work something like that up.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:31 - 1:08:35)
But for the most part, and you've heard me say this over and over again,

[Speaker 2] (1:08:35 - 1:08:37)
the people that come in are so happy with

[Speaker 7] (1:08:37 - 1:08:37)
Absolutely.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:37 - 1:08:38)
the service they're getting,

[Speaker 7] (1:08:38 - 1:08:38)
Absolutely.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:38 - 1:08:39)
thanking us,

[Speaker 7] (1:08:39 - 1:08:39)
Absolutely.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:39 - 1:08:40)
thanking us.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:40 - 1:08:45)
They don't say I'll be right back, you have neighbors, a guy will come in with his pickup and a trailer,

[Speaker 2] (1:08:45 - 1:08:46)
I just picked up my whole neighborhood.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:48 - 1:08:50)
I don't know if they enjoy coming to DPW.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:51 - 1:08:54)
There's a lot of smiles on their face. They know we're trying to do the best we can.

[Speaker 1] (1:08:55 - 1:08:56)
Wheel it down on skateboards.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:56 - 1:08:57)
The skateboard.

[Speaker 2] (1:08:59 - 1:09:04)
That's the amazing part. A lot of people from Farragut walk a frank and walk their trash it's recycled out of the yard.

[Speaker 8] (1:09:06 - 1:09:07)
Environmentally friendly.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:07 - 1:09:07)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:07 - 1:09:07)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:08 - 1:09:12)
And we see the same people week after week and they're just it's nice.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:15 - 1:09:16)
Lemonade out of lemons.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:17 - 1:09:17)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:19 - 1:09:22)
Alright, any other questions on the D.P.W. updates?

[Speaker 2] (1:09:23 - 1:09:25)
That went longer than I thought. I apologize.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:25 - 1:09:25)
It's okay.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:26 - 1:09:28)
It's not like you have a lot of stuff going on.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:28 - 1:09:29)
Yeah. Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:28 - 1:09:28)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:28 - 1:09:28)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:29 - 1:09:32)
Painting up the beaches, painting up the pipes, painting up the trash,

[Speaker 3] (1:09:32 - 1:09:32)
you I

[Speaker 1] (1:09:32 - 1:09:32)
know.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:32 - 1:09:41)
should probably mention that too. I should have put a picture of our beetrake in there. We do rake the beaches three times a week.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:42 - 1:09:46)
I just have two things. One, just an update on the Assistant Engineer, because I think

[Speaker 3] (1:09:46 - 1:09:46)
Yep.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:46 - 1:09:50)
this is the first update since he's been part of the team and how that's going.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:50 - 1:09:51)
It's going well.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:51 - 1:09:51)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:51 - 1:09:54)
Yep. He's taken over the engineering part of it,

[Speaker 2] (1:09:54 - 1:09:54)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:54 - 1:09:57)
which is good. He's been working with Kleinfeld on these projects here.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:57 - 1:09:58)
Very good.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:58 - 1:10:07)
And then two I want to mention I was able to spend some time helping out at the block party this year and the DPW staff that we worked with was amazing.

[Speaker 3] (1:10:08 - 1:10:08)
Yep.

[Speaker 2] (1:10:08 - 1:10:09)
They were fantastic.

[Speaker 2] (1:10:09 - 1:10:16)
We were asking, I asked one of them if they could move a porter potty and the look on his face I was like you could tell me to.

[Speaker 2] (1:10:17 - 1:10:30)
hit the sand if you need if you want me to and he was like where do you need it moved like they're just problem solvers and just great guys and they just they dropped it off way down at the end of the street and we needed it closer and they got to work and got it done and we it's really appreciated.

[Speaker 3] (1:10:30 - 1:10:32)
I couldn't be prouder of them.

[Speaker 1] (1:10:32 - 1:10:33)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:33 - 1:10:33)
I was on here.

[Speaker 3] (1:10:34 - 1:10:34)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:34 - 1:10:35)
I was there all the time.

[Speaker 1] (1:10:35 - 1:10:37)
Yep. Trying to sing.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:37 - 1:10:38)
Chien, I

[Speaker 4] (1:10:39 - 1:10:40)
I just want to say thank you.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:41 - 1:10:42)
Thank you to that department.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:42 - 1:10:48)
Those guys are just, just want to reiterate what Katie and Doug have said. They're just amazing.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:49 - 1:10:50)
Always smiling.

[Speaker 3] (1:10:50 - 1:10:51)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:51 - 1:10:56)
You know, they're at the farmer's market early and they're just, there's not a bad apple in that group.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:56 - 1:10:57)
They're just awesome.

[Speaker 3] (1:11:00 - 1:11:01)
I relay the message.

[Speaker 3] (1:11:02 - 1:11:05)
I can't guarantee any of them are watching tonight.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:07 - 1:11:09)
They're going to bed. They're too busy working.

[Speaker 3] (1:11:09 - 1:11:09)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:11 - 1:11:11)
All right.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:11 - 1:11:14)
So thank you to Geno for the update.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:14 - 1:11:23)
I think we will move to the LDA if that's okay because I could sort of wing that while Marcy's not here.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:23 - 1:11:24)
We all could probably.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:25 - 1:11:47)
and then we'll talk about the last two items hopefully Marcy will be able to hop over so this is a discussion and possible vote on the amendment to the LD this is yeah the amendment to the LDA and the ground lease for 24 Reddington Street which is also the former Hadley school for those of you who know it that way so we

[Speaker 2] (1:11:48 - 1:11:53)
Had signed a LDA with developer Delamar Swamp Scott LLC

[Speaker 2] (1:11:54 - 1:11:59)
Clearview you guys may recall that we went through an extensive RFP process.

[Speaker 2] (1:11:59 - 1:12:02)
We had multiple bidders for the whole boutique hotel

[Speaker 2] (1:12:04 - 1:12:14)
We narrowed it down to three and the board ended up choosing Delamar who has you know been fantastic to work with they're a all-in partnership

[Speaker 2] (1:12:15 - 1:12:39)
and they went through their due diligence period which ended at the end of April and they came back with you know some requests for amendment to the LDA mostly surrounding the pilot which is payment in lieu of taxes also an adjustment to the 15-month period that Gina was talking about to secure financing

[Speaker 2] (1:12:41 - 1:12:57)
Part of their requests were really coming from as they got to know the building they wanted to explore some historic tax credits and do some historic restoration work and they felt like there was some financial opportunities there.

[Speaker 2] (1:13:00 - 1:13:16)
application process was going to be a little bit more cumbersome so they while they were getting the work done during the negotiations of the LDA they still needed a little bit more time just in case you know they weren't able to secure that information in the original period of time that was given under the LDA.

[Speaker 2] (1:13:19 - 1:13:27)
David I don't know if you want to speak a little bit about sort of how we came to a conclusion of adjusting the pilot.

[Speaker 2] (1:13:31 - 1:13:33)
Do you want me to try?

[Speaker 3] (1:13:33 - 1:13:33)
Sure,

[Speaker 2] (1:13:33 - 1:13:33)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:13:33 - 1:13:33)
yeah, go ahead.

[Speaker 2] (1:13:33 - 1:13:35)
All right, so

[Speaker 2] (1:13:37 - 1:13:50)
I think what we've learned through this as we are not hoteliers is that the most critical time for hotels to be successful and remain successful is those first like three to five years of business,

[Speaker 2] (1:13:50 - 1:13:50)
right?

[Speaker 2] (1:13:50 - 1:13:59)
That's when they're going to figure out if they can fill every room and make sure the restaurant's going to succeed and the spa and the other amenities and make sure they have staff and all of that.

[Speaker 2] (1:13:59 - 1:14:03)
So basically we came to a conclusion which we thought was

[Speaker 2] (1:14:03 - 1:14:24)
was equitable between the parties which is that we would ramp up the pilot or the payment in lieu of taxes over that period of time so it would allow them a little bit of relief to have long-term success at the hotel and still allow Swampscott to receive a financial benefit for those that payment in lieu of taxes.

[Speaker 2] (1:14:25 - 1:14:27)
I think that

[Speaker 2] (1:14:28 - 1:14:32)
It was always a conversation we thought might come back around.

[Speaker 2] (1:14:33 - 1:14:35)
Obviously the economy,

[Speaker 2] (1:14:35 - 1:14:42)
the change in economy and the change in interest rates and financial pressures that these folks are having to face,

[Speaker 2] (1:14:42 - 1:14:54)
we have to balance with their fiduciary obligations to the town and figure out whatever is the best answer to not cut off our nose to spite our face and sort of ask for the moon but still get something that.

[Speaker 2] (1:14:54 - 1:15:00)
will be financially stable to revitalize that corridor for hopefully decades to come.

[Speaker 2] (1:15:00 - 1:15:05)
We believe that the deal that we struck does just that,

[Speaker 2] (1:15:05 - 1:15:08)
gives them a bit of relief in that initial window,

[Speaker 2] (1:15:08 - 1:15:10)
but then still provides,

[Speaker 2] (1:15:10 - 1:15:13)
you know, the financial expectations we thought we might hit.

[Speaker 2] (1:15:14 - 1:15:28)
um going forward um it doesn't change the rent structure at all the rent remains the same from their answer to the RFP um it's only the payment in lieu of taxes that was altered um I think that was please

[Speaker 1] (1:15:28 - 1:15:30)
I can add a couple things.

[Speaker 2] (1:15:30 - 1:15:30)
go

[Speaker 1] (1:15:32 - 1:15:39)
Well, one thing I'll say is that I think this was the product of a lot of the different perspectives and skill sets of the board.

[Speaker 1] (1:15:40 - 1:15:43)
You know, David's commercial banking experience,

[Speaker 1] (1:15:43 - 1:15:50)
Katie, your legal experience and dealing with properties and leases,

[Speaker 1] (1:15:50 - 1:15:53)
Mary Ellen's negotiating experience,

[Speaker 1] (1:15:53 - 1:16:00)
you know, there was a lot of different, you know, eyes and perspectives that were brought to bear to kind of find the right answer here.

[Speaker 1] (1:16:00 - 1:16:15)
Um so I think that you know is, um uh useful for the town to understand. Um because you know this, we're negotiating this, you know, a lot of executive session stuff is appropriate, right, but most the people don't see all the time and effort that was put into that.

[Speaker 1] (1:16:16 - 1:16:24)
Um the other thing that I just wanna you kind of said this, but I just really wanna uh uh emphasise it, uh we haven't actually said the numbers, um

[Speaker 2] (1:16:24 - 1:16:24)
Sure.

[Speaker 1] (1:16:24 - 1:16:27)
right? First of all like, so the rent payment

[Speaker 1] (1:16:27 - 1:16:27)
right,

[Speaker 1] (1:16:27 - 1:16:50)
which hasn't changed, is seventy five thousand dollars a year. Um and um the pilot payments um are percentages. Uh and they ramp up um but ultimately by year four, uh there's a floor of one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars a year. Um we expect it to be somewhat more than that, uh based on the projection,

[Speaker 1] (1:16:50 - 1:16:51)
uh and going forward.

[Speaker 1] (1:16:52 - 1:17:02)
But what I think we can also communicate to the public is that we did a significant amount of research to understand what was fair,

[Speaker 1] (1:17:02 - 1:17:09)
you know, in the marketplace, looking at other hotels and what they were getting for these types of payments.

[Speaker 1] (1:17:10 - 1:17:15)
And I think even though we have reduced from like where we started,

[Speaker 1] (1:17:15 - 1:17:18)
I think we still believe that we're getting a very,

[Speaker 1] (1:17:18 - 1:17:18)
very.

[Speaker 1] (1:17:19 - 1:17:35)
very fair deal with the way we put this together and you know have a good partnership and really responding to as you said you know their short-term upfront under you know pinch points versus our long-term benefit from this so

[Speaker 5] (1:17:35 - 1:17:35)
Yeah.

[Speaker 5] (1:17:36 - 1:17:36)
No,

[Speaker 5] (1:17:36 - 1:17:38)
and just a matter of fact,

[Speaker 5] (1:17:38 - 1:17:42)
I think we are getting a very fair deal. And we're also, you know, we're also...

[Speaker 5] (1:17:43 - 1:17:45)
really partnering with

[Speaker 1] (1:17:45 - 1:17:45)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 5] (1:17:45 - 1:17:45)
them.

[Speaker 5] (1:17:45 - 1:18:08)
I mean we're as they succeed we are going to succeed, the town is going to succeed, you know by by having that uh that percentage of of food, beverage, and uh and and room revenue that's certainly something that we can uh, you know where where we certainly wanna m ensure that the that that the success of this hotel happens, you know not only in years one and two but in years thirty one and thirty two.

[Speaker 1] (1:18:08 - 1:18:09)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 5] (1:18:09 - 1:18:09)
And

[Speaker 5] (1:18:09 - 1:18:18)
forward so I believe that ensuring that this hotel comes to fruition is going to really ignite

[Speaker 5] (1:18:19 - 1:18:39)
Uh Humphrey Street. I mean it's it's already awesome if you walk around on a summer day, summer night, uh summer afternoon, uh fall afternoon, you know there's people out. Everybody's everybody's enjoying uh themselves, enjoying uh the ocean air, the breeze, uh our incredible restaurants, and you know pretty soon we're gonna have uh, you know, an awesome hotel.

[Speaker 5] (1:18:39 - 1:18:46)
So those uh so those guests uh to Swampscott um can can get out of my house and your house,

[Speaker 5] (1:18:46 - 1:18:48)
Katie and go uh go enjoy uh

[Speaker 5] (1:18:47 - 1:19:03)
way uh to enjoy the seaside uh and a stroll down Humphrey Street, but um but you know most importantly it's it's really gonna be it's really a a very positive um public-private partnership and I couldn't be more excited to uh to welcome our our our friends and partners at Delamar to Swampscott.

[Speaker 2] (1:19:04 - 1:19:12)
Yeah, just to flush out just a little bit more of the details, so the pilot payment instead of being a one-time annual payment will now be a percentage payment of the food, beverage,

[Speaker 2] (1:19:12 - 1:19:13)
and room revenue,

[Speaker 2] (1:19:13 - 1:19:19)
and it will ramp up 1% in the first year, 2% in the second year, 2.5 in the third year,

[Speaker 2] (1:19:19 - 1:19:24)
3% in the fourth year with a floor of $185.

[Speaker 1] (1:19:46 - 1:19:47)
To echo again what David said,

[Speaker 1] (1:19:47 - 1:20:02)
this is a partnership and we invested in them and we want to, that ramp up period was to help them understand that we were in it also and we were going to help them through the lean times and then hopefully we would prosper through the prosperous times.

[Speaker 1] (1:20:02 - 1:20:03)
Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 2] (1:20:04 - 1:20:05)
Um, I just

[Speaker 3] (1:20:06 - 1:20:11)
I just want to remind everybody that we're talking about the pilot,

[Speaker 3] (1:20:11 - 1:20:12)
the payment with taxes.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:12 - 1:20:17)
That's that is separate from the additional money that we are getting.

[Speaker 1] (1:20:17 - 1:20:17)
Yes.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:17 - 1:20:19)
The additional money that we are getting.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:19 - 1:20:35)
for the room and the F&B so that's that's something separate that's an additional amount the other thing I just wanted to also acknowledge was the help that we received from members of the Board of Assessors and from the assessor agent himself too we had

[Speaker 1] (1:20:35 - 1:20:35)
to Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:35 - 1:20:38)
run and get some numbers pretty quickly so it's a big effort

[Speaker 3] (1:20:40 - 1:21:01)
exactly what David said this is a long-term partnership that will really help sustain a really super well-balanced country street it'll make a major difference we could have really big events we can be more of a destination community that just it just helps out a lot and I think it's something we're looking forward to

[Speaker 1] (1:21:03 - 1:21:05)
All right, well I think we've got.

[Speaker 1] (1:21:05 - 1:21:11)
Gosh, not without how great we feel this is because we spent a lot of time on it. So thank you for indulging us.

[Speaker 4] (1:21:11 - 1:21:13)
I did note there's one little scribner's error.

[Speaker 1] (1:21:13 - 1:21:14)
Oh yes, what is that?

[Speaker 4] (1:21:14 - 1:21:17)
Uh yeah, an article twenty three uh

[Speaker 1] (1:21:17 - 1:21:18)
On the

[Speaker 4] (1:21:18 - 1:21:20)
the county administrator email uh needs

[Speaker 1] (1:21:20 - 1:21:21)
Oh should be.

[Speaker 4] (1:21:21 - 1:21:25)
to be updated. It is uh a uh an older email.

[Speaker 1] (1:21:25 - 1:21:29)
Okay, we will I will ask to update that and we will move on from.

[Speaker 5] (1:21:33 - 1:21:36)
have a general town administrator, like a T_A_ at Swampscottma

[Speaker 1] (1:21:36 - 1:21:38)
If we go to select board at M_A_

[Speaker 6] (1:21:38 - 1:21:38)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:38 - 1:21:45)
and I'll talk to high school about that, because we probably should just have T_A_ to talk about M_A_ and not talk about it.

[Speaker 1] (1:21:45 - 1:21:46)
Right, considering

[Speaker 4] (1:21:46 - 1:21:51)
I mean there is one to Marcy as well, but there's one to the T_A_ here that just needs to be updated.

[Speaker 1] (1:21:51 - 1:21:59)
We will take that feedback back and I we won't even pay Kurt to do it. I will make that update and then I will tell him it's all set to go.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:00 - 1:22:09)
Um, so I will entertain a vote to approve the amendment of the LDA and ground lease.

[Speaker 4] (1:22:09 - 1:22:10)
So moved.

[Speaker 7] (1:22:10 - 1:22:11)
Second.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:11 - 1:22:12)
Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 3] (1:22:13 - 1:22:13)
Aye.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:13 - 1:22:14)
Doug.

[Speaker 7] (1:22:14 - 1:22:15)
Aye.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:15 - 1:22:15)
David.

[Speaker 5] (1:22:15 - 1:22:15)
Aye.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:15 - 1:22:26)
I'm a resounding aye. Thank you. All of us, I think appreciating echoing Doug's sentiments that it was a real team effort to pull this to this point. Very proud that we.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:27 - 1:22:29)
are seeing this come to fruition.

[Speaker 4] (1:22:30 - 1:22:32)
One thing we didn't note, just...

[Speaker 4] (1:22:33 - 1:22:37)
And it will still be a long time until it actually does come to fruition,

[Speaker 4] (1:22:37 - 1:22:37)
right?

[Speaker 1] (1:22:37 - 1:22:38)
Yes.

[Speaker 4] (1:22:38 - 1:22:49)
The timeline here, we're talking about years until the point at which it's actually, you know, open for business and there's plenty of hurdles still to get there. But, you know, there's...

[Speaker 1] (1:22:50 - 1:22:57)
Yep. So I, good point, Doug. I think the next step is there's a 15 month financing contingency period,

[Speaker 1] (1:22:57 - 1:23:00)
I believe, if I remember the nuances correctly.

[Speaker 1] (1:23:01 - 1:23:10)
So then once all the financing is complete and they have comment back from the historic tax credits and the CPA financing,

[Speaker 1] (1:23:11 - 1:23:16)
then they will take the next step, which is to start construction,

[Speaker 1] (1:23:16 - 1:23:21)
but they will take possession of the building relatively soon.

[Speaker 4] (1:23:21 - 1:23:22)
Nope.

[Speaker 1] (1:23:22 - 1:23:26)
And that means that we'll figure out.

[Speaker 1] (1:23:27 - 1:23:40)
How it gets winterized and protected and all those things um, whether the boiler how, you know, I'll let Max and you worry about that but um however that needs to happen um to make sure it's safe for the winter.

[Speaker 1] (1:23:42 - 1:23:45)
Okay. Moving right along.

[Speaker 1] (1:23:47 - 1:23:50)
Alright, so we're gonna start on the

[Speaker 1] (1:23:52 - 1:23:54)
First reading, discussion,

[Speaker 1] (1:23:54 - 1:23:57)
and possible vote of the social equity policy.

[Speaker 1] (1:23:58 - 1:24:00)
So we heard some commentary on public comments.

[Speaker 1] (1:24:01 - 1:24:12)
This is our first reading, so generally with things of this magnitude, we will discuss together and then send back if we have commentary or questions or edits.

[Speaker 1] (1:24:13 - 1:24:16)
We will, you know.

[Speaker 1] (1:24:16 - 1:24:26)
to have that discussion now, and then gen generally we don't vote on this type of thing for another reading. Um but does would anybody like to start?

[Speaker 1] (1:24:33 - 1:24:34)
No?

[Speaker 1] (1:24:43 - 1:24:51)
Okay, well one thing we should talk about since it was brought up at public comment is whether or not we want to consider removing section five on page three,

[Speaker 1] (1:24:51 - 1:24:58)
consider removing the language of a waiver or reduction for equity parties.

[Speaker 1] (1:24:59 - 1:25:03)
Obviously council has advised us that it's optional and it can be removed.

[Speaker 1] (1:25:04 - 1:25:11)
There is another fee that comes in that one percent that comes into us if they are a social equity partner.

[Speaker 1] (1:25:11 - 1:25:12)
So that is I think

[Speaker 1] (1:25:13 - 1:25:26)
why particularly the public commenter asked us to consider it because they're already we're already getting a benefit to their social equity participation and so that's

[Speaker 5] (1:25:26 - 1:25:32)
And not only are we getting a benefit that is not requiring,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:33 - 1:25:35)
it just drops right to the general fund,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:35 - 1:25:36)
correct?

[Speaker 5] (1:25:36 - 1:25:40)
right. So for a CIF, for a community impact fee,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:40 - 1:25:41)
we would have to

[Speaker 5] (1:25:42 - 1:25:46)
display how we're how we are adversely impacted.

[Speaker 1] (1:25:47 - 1:25:47)
Yeah.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:47 - 1:25:49)
How and then have the catalogue and

[Speaker 5] (1:25:51 - 1:26:07)
allocate those funds just to uh those mitigation uh you know, Mr. Town Administrator, i have have there been any community impacts to Vinnin Square as a result of to your knowledge,

[Speaker 8] (1:26:07 - 1:26:07)
Negative

[Speaker 5] (1:26:07 - 1:26:07)
do you have a sense

[Speaker 8] (1:26:07 - 1:26:08)
impact.

[Speaker 5] (1:26:08 - 1:26:08)
to your knowledge? Negative impact.

[Speaker 8] (1:26:08 - 1:26:10)
No, none that I'm aware.

[Speaker 4] (1:26:10 - 1:26:10)
And

[Speaker 8] (1:26:10 - 1:26:11)
I will zero.

[Speaker 5] (1:26:11 - 1:26:12)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (1:26:12 - 1:26:12)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:14 - 1:26:31)
Yeah, I think in in any of these situations we need a policy because we're required to have a policy. But I would say for the experience that we've had thus far, for the information we have available to us right now, I asked Marzie the same question and um

[Speaker 1] (1:26:32 - 1:26:37)
I believe the answer is it's a it's like a higher threshold for us to we can't just say that we have a negative impact.

[Speaker 4] (1:26:37 - 1:26:37)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:37 - 1:26:39)
You have to show you have a negative impact

[Speaker 4] (1:26:39 - 1:26:39)
Demonstrate.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:39 - 1:26:56)
and then you you have to once you show you have a negative impact you have to sort of go through the process of determining the value of that impact um and you know obviously that can change as ownership changes or things like that occur so it's important to have something but that

[Speaker 1] (1:26:57 - 1:27:00)
to our knowledge it's not occurring to date.

[Speaker 4] (1:27:01 - 1:27:05)
Do we have any idea, I was trying to think that through just fully,

[Speaker 4] (1:27:05 - 1:27:16)
have you had any conversation with the police chief at all in terms of traffic impacts of distracted drivers or anything of that nature?

[Speaker 1] (1:27:17 - 1:27:18)
Why are they distracted though?

[Speaker 5] (1:27:19 - 1:27:19)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (1:27:19 - 1:27:22)
By the purchase of cannabis?

[Speaker 1] (1:27:23 - 1:27:24)
Oh.

[Speaker 8] (1:27:24 - 1:27:24)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:27:27 - 1:27:29)
I t oh we can ask that question.

[Speaker 4] (1:27:30 - 1:27:32)
I think that's something that floats around, right,

[Speaker 4] (1:27:32 - 1:27:37)
about whether or not that, you know, I mean certainly driving around, one,

[Speaker 4] (1:27:37 - 1:27:43)
you know, enjoys different aromas no matter where you are at this point in time.

[Speaker 4] (1:27:44 - 1:27:54)
So I'd be interested whether or not it's local or national what the data is in terms of any particular association with traffic accidents or anything like that.

[Speaker 4] (1:27:53 - 1:28:02)
like that just just to be thorough about understanding what the impact could be I'm not necessarily sitting here advocating for this per se but just

[Speaker 8] (1:28:02 - 1:28:02)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (1:28:02 - 1:28:03)
understand it.

[Speaker 5] (1:28:03 - 1:28:04)
But I mean to

[Speaker 1] (1:28:04 - 1:28:04)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (1:28:04 - 1:28:04)
that to

[Speaker 1] (1:28:04 - 1:28:04)
I think

[Speaker 5] (1:28:04 - 1:28:13)
but to that same effect I mean it it's it's illegal to drive around and consume cannabis just like it is illegal to drive around and consume alcohol.

[Speaker 4] (1:28:13 - 1:28:13)
Yes.

[Speaker 5] (1:28:13 - 1:28:14)
So Or you

[Speaker 1] (1:28:14 - 1:28:14)
to

[Speaker 5] (1:28:14 - 1:28:14)
know

[Speaker 1] (1:28:14 - 1:28:15)
distractedly drive

[Speaker 4] (1:28:15 - 1:28:16)
Or or

[Speaker 1] (1:28:16 - 1:28:16)
text and drive

[Speaker 4] (1:28:16 - 1:28:17)
drive around

[Speaker 1] (1:28:17 - 1:28:17)
and all

[Speaker 4] (1:28:17 - 1:28:17)
with your

[Speaker 1] (1:28:17 - 1:28:20)
other things which are causing car crashes all over the

[Speaker 1] (1:28:19 - 1:28:20)
over the place, unfortunately.

[Speaker 4] (1:28:20 - 1:28:25)
Yes. Yes, it is. But three wrongs don't make a right, I guess, you know. So we're

[Speaker 8] (1:28:25 - 1:28:25)
Well...

[Speaker 4] (1:28:25 - 1:28:26)
talking about cannabis right now. So...

[Speaker 1] (1:28:26 - 1:28:27)
No, totally true,

[Speaker 4] (1:28:27 - 1:28:27)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:28:27 - 1:28:37)
but if we then decided uh I guess it would be difficult to pinpoint that the if there were a correlation I

[Speaker 4] (1:28:37 - 1:28:38)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:28:38 - 1:28:44)
would then question how we pinpoint that it's coming from the two like because I believe you get cannabis delivery now.

[Speaker 1] (1:28:46 - 1:28:49)
and it would can be from any

[Speaker 4] (1:28:49 - 1:28:49)
Sure

[Speaker 1] (1:28:49 - 1:29:05)
town neighboring town so how we then say show me a receipt where'd you get it like I don't but we can still ask the question this is only the first reading so we get some more data and I bet Marcy has it so I apologize that she

[Speaker 4] (1:29:05 - 1:29:05)
We're

[Speaker 1] (1:29:05 - 1:29:05)
I

[Speaker 4] (1:29:05 - 1:29:07)
moving so fast that she didn't have a chance

[Speaker 1] (1:29:07 - 1:29:14)
know isn't that a nice problem to have but she'll be here for the next time around and we will be able to answer that question but

[Speaker 1] (1:29:15 - 1:29:19)
But I think that it's worth considering removal of the as the applicant

[Speaker 1] (1:29:24 - 1:29:29)
the removal of Section 5 only because they're already,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:29 - 1:29:33)
we're already getting a benefit from them and it might entice

[Speaker 1] (1:29:34 - 1:29:50)
more folks to participate in social equity um because yes we will still be mainten getting that one percent benefit but they would not be under the uh this policy so there is an additional benefit other than moral benefit to doing something like that.

[Speaker 1] (1:29:51 - 1:29:54)
Um so I would um we don't have to

[Speaker 1] (1:29:55 - 1:30:01)
We don't have to vote on it now, but I would like to consider that for the next reading, that people think about that.

[Speaker 2] (1:30:02 - 1:30:10)
Yep. No, and I'm I'm supportive of of waiving or producing um or just removing altogether uh number five.

[Speaker 1] (1:30:10 - 1:30:18)
Yeah, I think removing it would or even saying in the affirmative that we we waive it for equity parties.

[Speaker 1] (1:30:20 - 1:30:31)
We won't consider waiving it, we just do waive it. We'll have to check with counsel if that's appropriate, but um rather than allowing somebody to consider, we can just say it is waived. Um

[Speaker 1] (1:30:33 - 1:30:42)
So I'll give that feedback to Marcy and we'll check with counsel to make sure we can do that rather than delete it.

[Speaker 1] (1:30:46 - 1:30:48)
Any other commentary?

[Speaker 1] (1:30:49 - 1:31:08)
I mean these are pretty standard contracts, they uh uh I'm sorry agreements they the policies the policy that we have before us is used in other towns and municipalities um that KP Law has um serviced. Mary Ellen. Thanks.

[Speaker 3] (1:31:09 - 1:31:15)
Uh, Katie, just, what are we looking at as far as a timeline of getting, getting this policy?

[Speaker 3] (1:31:16 - 1:31:41)
wrapped up only because it seems like this is taking a really long time not by our fault or anything but my concern is that are we doing everything we can to help the vendor the shop you know local shop to process this in a timely manner that's one of the concerns I have because they've come up a couple times Marcy's brought it up a couple times

[Speaker 3] (1:31:41 - 1:31:44)
I just want to know if you happen to know what the timeline is looking like.

[Speaker 1] (1:31:45 - 1:31:49)
Well, so we've viewed the host community agreement a couple of times,

[Speaker 1] (1:31:49 - 1:31:50)
as you remember,

[Speaker 1] (1:31:50 - 1:31:54)
and it was at that point when KP Law came back and said,

[Speaker 1] (1:31:54 - 1:32:03)
oh, if you're going to look at these host community agreements, you should really have a social equity plan and policy in place.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:04 - 1:32:05)
related to the host community agreements.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:05 - 1:32:12)
So we sort of put the cart before the horse and now the horse is in town so we can you know link them all together and move on.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:13 - 1:32:20)
I don't think that we have to delay passing the host community agreement at this point if we wanted to.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:20 - 1:32:29)
We would just hope to then put the social equity plan on the next agenda and pass that in the next meeting.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:31 - 1:32:39)
I don't know why it would be a detriment to do one rather than the other,

[Speaker 1] (1:32:39 - 1:32:44)
but we have viewed the host community agreement multiple times at this point.

[Speaker 2] (1:32:44 - 1:32:45)
Yep, thank you.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:48 - 1:32:49)
Does that answer your question?

[Speaker 3] (1:32:50 - 1:32:51)
Yes

[Speaker 1] (1:32:51 - 1:32:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:52 - 1:32:53)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:53 - 1:32:53)
You're welcome.

[Speaker 1] (1:32:55 - 1:32:59)
All righty, so then we will,

[Speaker 1] (1:32:59 - 1:32:59)
Diane,

[Speaker 1] (1:33:00 - 1:33:05)
if you wouldn't mind putting this on the next agenda and asking Marcy to join us. I know she would be here if she could.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:06 - 1:33:09)
For the second review of the social equity policy,

[Speaker 1] (1:33:09 - 1:33:11)
I will note there are some questions in here.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:12 - 1:33:22)
The social equity policy that says like, you know, like this percentage is suggested by KP Law, but we really need to determine if we want to use that percentage in a couple of these spaces.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:22 - 1:33:27)
So if we could just do a more in-depth conversation next time, that would be what is necessary.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:29 - 1:33:29)
Okay,

[Speaker 1] (1:33:29 - 1:33:32)
on to the community host agreements.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:35 - 1:33:44)
So um we have two separate agreements. We'll start with grippy and journey.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:45 - 1:33:57)
Again um we have gone through these s multiple times, we had counsel on I think for Calix, but we have um the proprietors of

[Speaker 4] (1:33:58 - 1:33:59)
Our attorney's on.

[Speaker 1] (1:33:59 - 1:34:00)
Oh, he is on.

[Speaker 4] (1:34:00 - 1:34:00)
It's not.

[Speaker 1] (1:34:00 - 1:34:01)
Okay, yeah,

[Speaker 1] (1:34:01 - 1:34:05)
I mean, we're happy to hear from him if you would like to say anything.

[Speaker 2] (1:34:05 - 1:34:07)
Hi, I'm Jimmy James.

[Speaker 2] (1:34:07 - 1:34:08)
Hi,

[Speaker 1] (1:34:08 - 1:34:08)
James.

[Speaker 2] (1:34:12 - 1:34:14)
are you both from Terpene Journey?

[Speaker 2] (1:34:15 - 1:34:16)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:34:17 - 1:34:17)
Yeah.

[Speaker 5] (1:34:17 - 1:34:19)
Sorry, my buddy was muted there.

[Speaker 5] (1:34:20 - 1:34:22)
James Van representing Terpene Journey.

[Speaker 1] (1:34:23 - 1:34:24)
Thanks, James, for joining us.

[Speaker 5] (1:34:25 - 1:34:26)
Thank you very much.

[Speaker 1] (1:34:26 - 1:34:37)
Absolutely. Okay, so having reviewed this multiple times and having asked to have a social equity policy sort of be considered at the same time,

[Speaker 1] (1:34:37 - 1:34:38)
we have that at the table today.

[Speaker 1] (1:34:39 - 1:34:46)
Does anybody have any additional questions or comments on this host agreement?

[Speaker 6] (1:34:46 - 1:34:49)
So are all the recommended changes in here,

[Speaker 6] (1:34:50 - 1:34:53)
has Terpene Journey agreed to those as well, do we know?

[Speaker 6] (1:34:56 - 1:34:58)
I know you don't see it, so.

[Speaker 7] (1:34:58 - 1:35:02)
I'm honestly not 100% sure kind of which agreement that

[Speaker 3] (1:35:02 - 1:35:03)
You'll

[Speaker 7] (1:35:03 - 1:35:03)
would

[Speaker 3] (1:35:03 - 1:35:04)
get into a bike test.

[Speaker 7] (1:35:04 - 1:35:04)
Sorry.

[Speaker 1] (1:35:07 - 1:35:08)
You're not sure. Okay, so

[Speaker 3] (1:35:09 - 1:35:11)
I get the email you forwarded.

[Speaker 8] (1:35:12 - 1:35:18)
Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, I'm just not sure if it's the the last one that I I provided edits to for KP law,

[Speaker 8] (1:35:19 - 1:35:19)
um

[Speaker 8] (1:35:21 - 1:35:22)
or not.

[Speaker 1] (1:35:22 - 1:35:23)
I sure hope so.

[Speaker 1] (1:35:24 - 1:35:28)
Um, I don't know how we would know that. Let

[Speaker 6] (1:35:28 - 1:35:28)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:35:28 - 1:35:30)
me text Marcy.

[Speaker 8] (1:35:30 - 1:35:32)
I can probably just take a quick look

[Speaker 1] (1:35:32 - 1:35:33)
Oh,

[Speaker 8] (1:35:33 - 1:35:33)
at

[Speaker 1] (1:35:33 - 1:35:33)
sure.

[Speaker 8] (1:35:33 - 1:35:33)
it.

[Speaker 1] (1:35:56 - 1:36:07)
So then to answer Doug's question, I think the answer is yes. The updated one agreed to um the proposed edits.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:10 - 1:36:22)
So all these edits then these are coming from like a standard agreement for host community agreements and then you all kind of work back and forth and that's why we're seeing so many things struck

[Speaker 6] (1:36:23 - 1:36:27)
Is that uh kind of a general way to understand this or

[Speaker 8] (1:36:27 - 1:36:28)
Um so

[Speaker 6] (1:36:28 - 1:36:41)
I mean I'll just give you the f just for everyone's und you know there's a there's a statement here where as the town recognises its obligations comply with the requirements of 4th and 9.35 C_M_R_ as it relates to hosting an officially designated social equity company.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:41 - 1:36:44)
And so the recommendation here is to take that out.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:46 - 1:36:52)
But I'm s little s I'm a little I'm not following in some ways I would think that you guys would want that in.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:54 - 1:36:57)
So that's why I'm having a little trouble following the bouncing ball here.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:58 - 1:36:59)
Does that make sense?

[Speaker 6] (1:37:00 - 1:37:02)
Why I'm asking that question?

[Speaker 1] (1:37:02 - 1:37:03)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (1:37:04 - 1:37:05)
Which section are you

[Speaker 6] (1:37:05 - 1:37:05)
Right

[Speaker 1] (1:37:05 - 1:37:05)
on?

[Speaker 6] (1:37:05 - 1:37:05)
the first page.

[Speaker 1] (1:37:05 - 1:37:06)
Okay, sorry.

[Speaker 6] (1:37:12 - 1:37:17)
And they say maybe not includes this language here. I don't know, was it put somewhere else?

[Speaker 7] (1:37:17 - 1:37:19)
I think from what I understand we were.

[Speaker 7] (1:37:19 - 1:37:34)
I think it was my understanding that we were still were going potentially back to we had we had revisions to that to your point, and I don't think we heard back. We had asked for another conversation and I think we didn't have another conversation.

[Speaker 8] (1:37:34 - 1:37:37)
Yeah, I think honestly it might actually make sense.

[Speaker 8] (1:37:37 - 1:37:46)
I never thought I'd say this, it might actually make sense for us to push this to the next meeting to make sure that we're totally on the same page with respect to all the language, etc.

[Speaker 6] (1:37:47 - 1:37:47)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:37:47 - 1:37:48)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (1:37:49 - 1:37:49)
That makes

[Speaker 6] (1:37:49 - 1:37:49)
It

[Speaker 8] (1:37:49 - 1:37:49)
sense.

[Speaker 6] (1:37:49 - 1:37:50)
wasn't my intention,

[Speaker 6] (1:37:50 - 1:37:51)
but I just want to

[Speaker 1] (1:37:51 - 1:37:51)
Yeah,

[Speaker 6] (1:37:51 - 1:37:51)
make sure that

[Speaker 1] (1:37:51 - 1:37:57)
I just, yeah. I think to Doug's point, we are very willing to partner and work

[Speaker 2] (1:37:57 - 1:37:57)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (1:37:57 - 1:38:03)
with a host community agreement that works for both parties. And in doing so,

[Speaker 1] (1:38:03 - 1:38:08)
we want to make sure that whatever we review is sort of in agreement with you before we then pass it,

[Speaker 1] (1:38:08 - 1:38:10)
or else if you then change it, we have

[Speaker 2] (1:38:10 - 1:38:11)
to We're

[Speaker 1] (1:38:11 - 1:38:11)
come back here.

[Speaker 2] (1:38:11 - 1:38:11)
back here again.

[Speaker 8] (1:38:11 - 1:38:12)
That makes

[Speaker 1] (1:38:12 - 1:38:12)
Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (1:38:12 - 1:38:12)
perfect sense.

[Speaker 1] (1:38:12 - 1:38:12)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:38:13 - 1:38:15)
So then why don't we...

[Speaker 1] (1:38:16 - 1:38:39)
Table the terpentine I'm sorry the host community agreements for both Calix Peak and terpene not terpentine terpene sorry journey and we will put it back on the next agenda and it will go more smoothly because we will have confirmed all this information and Marcy will be here with the linchpin in all of this going more smoothly

[Speaker 1] (1:38:41 - 1:38:51)
And if you have, I'll have Marzie email you and your attorney tomorrow to make sure that you're reviewing the right version and that we have all the questions answered.

[Speaker 1] (1:38:52 - 1:39:02)
And then maybe we can get a version that's redlined and a version that is in its form so that we can make sure everything's been hit.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:03 - 1:39:03)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (1:39:03 - 1:39:04)
Yeah, that sounds good.

[Speaker 8] (1:39:04 - 1:39:04)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:04 - 1:39:05)
Fantastic.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:06 - 1:39:09)
All right, so those will move to two weeks from now.

[Speaker 6] (1:39:09 - 1:39:14)
The good news is that we made it to this point for you in just an hour and a half instead of three hours.

[Speaker 2] (1:39:16 - 1:39:16)
I appreciate it.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:16 - 1:39:17)
Appreciate it.

[Speaker 2] (1:39:17 - 1:39:17)
Thanks.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:17 - 1:39:18)
Um

[Speaker 3] (1:39:20 - 1:39:22)
okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:22 - 1:39:31)
It's a Wednesday. Yeah, we go back in September, we'll go back to Wednesday meetings. So um Tuesdays in the summer because of our concert series.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:32 - 1:39:38)
Um so I guess all we have left is approval of the consent agenda, which is

[Speaker 3] (1:39:39 - 1:39:42)
Appointment of the vote to appoint the town planner,

[Speaker 3] (1:39:42 - 1:39:48)
which we appointed the town planner last time, but we were worried it was wrong on the agenda because it didn't say possible vote, so we put it back on here.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:48 - 1:39:55)
I want to see a liquor license for Sponktoberfest and minutes for 7-8, 7-22,

[Speaker 3] (1:39:55 - 1:39:56)
and 8-5.

[Speaker 4] (1:39:57 - 1:39:58)
Motion to approve the consent agenda.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:00 - 1:40:01)
Second.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:01 - 1:40:02)
Second.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:02 - 1:40:02)
Mary Ellen.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:05 - 1:40:05)
Doug.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:06 - 1:40:07)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:07 - 1:40:08)
David.

[Speaker 4] (1:40:08 - 1:40:08)
Hi.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:09 - 1:40:09)
I'm an I.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:09 - 1:40:11)
I know really I can't comment on that. I'm

[Speaker 5] (1:40:11 - 1:40:11)
Oh,

[Speaker 1] (1:40:11 - 1:40:11)
eliminated.

[Speaker 5] (1:40:11 - 1:40:12)
okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:12 - 1:40:14)
For some reason I'm not acknowledged in those meetings.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:15 - 1:40:15)
You're not what?

[Speaker 1] (1:40:15 - 1:40:16)
Acknowledged as

[Speaker 4] (1:40:16 - 1:40:17)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:17 - 1:40:19)
a town official being there.

[Speaker 5] (1:40:19 - 1:40:20)
Oh, which one?

[Speaker 1] (1:40:20 - 1:40:21)
The

[Speaker 3] (1:40:21 - 1:40:21)
What?

[Speaker 1] (1:40:21 - 1:40:22)
8th and the 22nd.

[Speaker 5] (1:40:22 - 1:40:22)
Okay, I'll.

[Speaker 6] (1:40:23 - 1:40:24)
Okay.

[Speaker 4] (1:40:24 - 1:40:25)
as as amended.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:25 - 1:40:25)
As

[Speaker 1] (1:40:25 - 1:40:25)
As

[Speaker 3] (1:40:25 - 1:40:25)
a

[Speaker 1] (1:40:25 - 1:40:25)
amended,

[Speaker 3] (1:40:25 - 1:40:26)
friendly

[Speaker 1] (1:40:26 - 1:40:26)
yes.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:26 - 1:40:32)
amendment by Gino, we recognize that Gino is a town official and will be listed in

[Speaker 4] (1:40:32 - 1:40:32)
And he was

[Speaker 3] (1:40:32 - 1:40:32)
the town

[Speaker 4] (1:40:32 - 1:40:33)
and he was present.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:33 - 1:40:35)
in the town officials um oh you know

[Speaker 1] (1:40:35 - 1:40:35)
What

[Speaker 3] (1:40:35 - 1:40:35)
what you

[Speaker 1] (1:40:35 - 1:40:36)
was that one meeting

[Speaker 3] (1:40:36 - 1:40:36)
there

[Speaker 1] (1:40:36 - 1:40:36)
that

[Speaker 3] (1:40:36 - 1:40:36)
was

[Speaker 1] (1:40:36 - 1:40:36)
you weren't

[Speaker 3] (1:40:36 - 1:40:36)
you weren't

[Speaker 1] (1:40:36 - 1:40:36)
here?

[Speaker 3] (1:40:36 - 1:40:38)
at maybe that was the one you weren't at.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:38 - 1:40:42)
Oh, that's what I think she might have cut copied and pasted wasn't in.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:42 - 1:40:42)
Oh.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:42 - 1:40:43)
It continued

[Speaker 3] (1:40:43 - 1:40:43)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:43 - 1:40:44)
to keep me there.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:45 - 1:40:46)
Alright well let's just make sure

[Speaker 1] (1:40:46 - 1:40:47)
But I have been there. I've been

[Speaker 3] (1:40:47 - 1:40:47)
Check

[Speaker 1] (1:40:47 - 1:40:47)
there for

[Speaker 3] (1:40:47 - 1:40:47)
the

[Speaker 1] (1:40:47 - 1:40:48)
both

[Speaker 3] (1:40:48 - 1:40:48)
tapes.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:48 - 1:40:48)
of them.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:48 - 1:40:49)
If Gino was here

[Speaker 3] (1:40:50 - 1:40:51)
Then let's make sure we add him.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:51 - 1:40:53)
I missed the one in June, not in July.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:53 - 1:40:54)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:54 - 1:40:54)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:54 - 1:40:55)
Perfect.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:55 - 1:40:57)
Um, select board time.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:57 - 1:40:59)
Mary Ellen, would you like to go first?

[Speaker 7] (1:41:00 - 1:41:00)
Sure.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:01 - 1:41:03)
I just want to go over a couple things.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:03 - 1:41:05)
The Solid Waste Advisory Committee,

[Speaker 7] (1:41:05 - 1:41:12)
they're breaking off into a smaller group to start to assist with recommendations for the upcoming contract.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:12 - 1:41:18)
They also are looking to put something together called a fix-it clinic.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:19 - 1:41:27)
That I would like to possibly have on the agenda or even just on the consent agenda to make sure that the board is on.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:28 - 1:41:35)
On board with that, but before we do that I want to make sure that it complies with our insurance within our insurance package.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:35 - 1:41:43)
Basically what it is is you'd have volunteers that will be available to, you know, fix things that might be broken,

[Speaker 7] (1:41:43 - 1:41:47)
you know, little appliances or whatever so that you don't have to throw it out and buy something new.

[Speaker 7] (1:41:47 - 1:41:50)
It's something that's done in multiple communities,

[Speaker 7] (1:41:50 - 1:41:53)
so we're just running the paperwork through and trying to...

[Speaker 7] (1:41:53 - 1:42:18)
figure out if it fits into into our into what we do so that's that's one thing the other thing is the the solid waste advisory committee also was discussing you know how to help seniors seniors that can't pick up get their trash or the recycling

[Speaker 7] (1:42:19 - 1:42:37)
That's actually just a recycling over to DPW and we have received multiple calls that just have been funneled through town hall and through Gino and they've been able to help with that but we have gotten a couple of calls that it's maybe it's starting to get to be a little bit bigger of an issue than what it is.

[Speaker 7] (1:42:39 - 1:42:43)
The next thing is Gino did comment on the election committee,

[Speaker 7] (1:42:43 - 1:42:44)
the election review committee.

[Speaker 7] (1:42:45 - 1:42:50)
I'm going to need a date for them to come in sometime in September, just to September, October,

[Speaker 7] (1:42:50 - 1:42:54)
just to give a review of their work.

[Speaker 7] (1:42:54 - 1:42:58)
And then we have to just discuss putting it onto the town meeting.

[Speaker 7] (1:42:58 - 1:43:02)
I don't think it requires any votes. It's just a recommendation.

[Speaker 7] (1:43:02 - 1:43:07)
And that's all I have for the updates I need from my committee.

[Speaker 1] (1:43:09 - 1:43:10)
I have an update.

[Speaker 3] (1:43:11 - 1:43:11)
Please.

[Speaker 4] (1:43:11 - 1:43:16)
Yeah, just just real briefly Water Sewer Infrastructure Advisory Committee.

[Speaker 4] (1:43:16 - 1:43:25)
I've been in contact with with the chair. She is running through a number of resumes having,

[Speaker 4] (1:43:25 - 1:43:33)
you know, she's preliminarily looking for for very technical expertise and skill sets. I mean, we're looking for scientists,

[Speaker 4] (1:43:34 - 1:43:34)
researchers,

[Speaker 4] (1:43:34 - 1:43:37)
GIS professionals.

[Speaker 4] (1:43:37 - 1:44:06)
Um we think we've identified uh some, um but uh they would they will be meeting uh tomorrow night at seven thirty in the first floor conference room at town hall. They are looking at um at the scope of what the committee uh of what the committee's goals and objectives are. I think when it was founded a little over a year ago um they had these grand plans to do ten, twelve, fourteen different things. Um I think as they've uh as they've gotten up and running

[Speaker 4] (1:44:06 - 1:44:19)
they've realized that you know we probably won't be everything to everyone we're probably going to have to narrow our scope and really what that what that scope is going to be moving forward is going to help them

[Speaker 4] (1:44:20 - 1:44:31)
procure the, you know, the expertise and the talent that they need to seat that committee. But that is something that that Kelly is working on and I'm I'm working on with her.

[Speaker 4] (1:44:31 - 1:44:44)
So we hope to have an update uh very soon. Um there hasn't been any any issues with obtaining a quorum or anything for uh for the Water Sewer Infrastructure Advisory Committee and we are very much looking forward to having um

[Speaker 4] (1:44:45 - 1:44:57)
You know, having a presentation uh from Gino, uh from Kleinfelder and uh and Liz Smith and Matt Pelland uh in the very near future about the U_V_ uh pilot and sharing those results with the select board and the public.

[Speaker 4] (1:44:59 - 1:44:59)
Thanks.

[Speaker 3] (1:44:59 - 1:45:00)
Thanks David.

[Speaker 3] (1:45:01 - 1:45:01)
Doug?

[Speaker 1] (1:45:02 - 1:45:05)
Not much. Just a brief update on CPA.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:06 - 1:45:09)
We're still waiting with all things that were passed to town meeting,

[Speaker 1] (1:45:09 - 1:45:09)
I understand,

[Speaker 1] (1:45:09 - 1:45:15)
from Jared for final AG approval on the bylaw to set up the community preservation committee.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:15 - 1:45:18)
And once that comes through,

[Speaker 1] (1:45:18 - 1:45:21)
I think, you know, we've kind of softly put out to all the committees,

[Speaker 1] (1:45:21 - 1:45:21)
right,

[Speaker 1] (1:45:21 - 1:45:30)
that they need to be thinking about it, that need to appoint somebody. And we've been we've been posting for the select board appointee as well. Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:30 - 1:45:32)
Wait, um so,

[Speaker 7] (1:45:32 - 1:45:32)
One name.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:32 - 1:45:33)
a lot of names?

[Speaker 7] (1:45:33 - 1:45:34)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:34 - 1:45:40)
Great. Uh so you know, until that I don't know when ninety days is from time of meeting.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:40 - 1:45:40)
So

[Speaker 7] (1:45:41 - 1:45:42)
We said. August thirty first.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:42 - 1:45:43)
August thirty first.

[Speaker 7] (1:45:43 - 1:45:44)
I'll put that today.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:44 - 1:45:45)
Okay, sorry I missed that. Okay.

[Speaker 4] (1:45:45 - 1:45:45)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:45 - 1:45:46)
Alright.

[Speaker 7] (1:45:46 - 1:45:47)
No not too long. Jerry.

[Speaker 7] (1:45:48 - 1:45:48)
Early August.

[Speaker 1] (1:45:48 - 1:45:58)
Oh, okay. Okay. So maybe uh then um agenda item in um September uh would be about uh community preservation.

[Speaker 4] (1:45:59 - 1:45:59)
Nine three?

[Speaker 1] (1:46:00 - 1:46:02)
I don't think it has to be nine three. Um

[Speaker 4] (1:46:04 - 1:46:04)
Nine seventeen.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:05 - 1:46:06)
Yeah, I think maybe

[Speaker 3] (1:46:06 - 1:46:06)
Nine seventeen.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:06 - 1:46:19)
maybe once it's approved, Diane, you can share all the uh applicants with us for the select board nominee and we can get out of you know uh we probably should send out a note um I I'd be shocked if it's not approved,

[Speaker 1] (1:46:19 - 1:46:25)
so we should get out a a clear note to all those committees saying we need someone say by nine fifteen.

[Speaker 7] (1:46:27 - 1:46:28)
I already did that,

[Speaker 1] (1:46:28 - 1:46:29)
We already did that.

[Speaker 7] (1:46:29 - 1:46:30)
it's almost full.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:30 - 1:46:32)
Okay, all the other committees have appointed people?

[Speaker 7] (1:46:32 - 1:46:33)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (1:46:34 - 1:46:34)
And

[Speaker 3] (1:46:34 - 1:46:34)
She's on

[Speaker 7] (1:46:34 - 1:46:35)
they're also

[Speaker 3] (1:46:35 - 1:46:35)
it.

[Speaker 7] (1:46:35 - 1:46:45)
appointing primary and alternates, which I know we did that in TV on my committee, so at least that way if he's not here then there's alternate can go.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:45 - 1:46:46)
Great.

[Speaker 4] (1:46:46 - 1:46:47)
Superstar.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:47 - 1:46:47)
Excellent.

[Speaker 3] (1:46:48 - 1:46:48)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:48 - 1:46:50)
So then maybe by the second meeting in September we could be...

[Speaker 1] (1:46:51 - 1:46:53)
Pointing the full committee

[Speaker 3] (1:46:53 - 1:46:54)
Okay, great.

[Speaker 3] (1:46:56 - 1:46:57)
Okay,

[Speaker 3] (1:46:57 - 1:46:59)
also for the second meeting in September,

[Speaker 3] (1:46:59 - 1:47:00)
which happens to be my husband's birthday,

[Speaker 3] (1:47:01 - 1:47:04)
we are going to discuss select board goals.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:05 - 1:47:11)
So I'm giving everybody a lot of notice, a whole month for you to think about it.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:11 - 1:47:13)
We can certainly go back, maybe Diane,

[Speaker 3] (1:47:13 - 1:47:19)
you can pull the agenda from our Saturday meeting prior where we talked about select board goals.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:19 - 1:47:24)
And we can talk about them in actual context to what we had said they were.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:24 - 1:47:29)
We can have some self-reflection, determine if we actually followed them.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:29 - 1:47:36)
And we can also see if they still feel like goals we want to continue to prioritize in the same manner.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:37 - 1:48:06)
Um and this obviously is imperative as we hire a new town administrator that we are giving very clear direction. We are the policy making board in the town and we need our town administrator to feel like the decisions they're they make running the town support the goals that the select board ultimately is asking them to and he or she should not have to ask us. We should have to just say it and I would like to Diane if you

[Speaker 3] (1:48:06 - 1:48:32)
if you would help me because you're so good at remembering do a quarterly check-in for these goals going forward that way I don't know if quarterly is the right amount of time but we'll start there and then we'll see that way that might help with some of these transparency questions that were brought up in a myriad of other surveys whether or not you know we're making decisions based on transparent methodologies

[Speaker 3] (1:48:33 - 1:48:38)
The goals conversation came up. I had my first Tri-Chair meeting.

[Speaker 3] (1:48:38 - 1:48:39)
I've not met Tri-Chair before.

[Speaker 3] (1:48:40 - 1:48:58)
And we sort of chatted about what a financial summit might look like. We looked at the agendas for prior financial summits and also, you know, part of their request was that we had that goal setting done before we had the financial summit because it will drive a lot of the conversation.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:00 - 1:49:02)
I think we all now have met with the new superintendent,

[Speaker 3] (1:49:03 - 1:49:04)
Jason Kalishman,

[Speaker 3] (1:49:04 - 1:49:07)
appreciate that he reached out to us and wanted to just touch base.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:07 - 1:49:09)
He's been doing a lot of outreach.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:09 - 1:49:09)
He's been

[Speaker 1] (1:49:10 - 1:49:13)
He was at the...

[Speaker 2] (1:49:15 - 1:49:16)
Block time.

[Speaker 1] (1:49:16 - 1:49:17)
Block Party,

[Speaker 1] (1:49:17 - 1:49:24)
thank you, and has been very available to folks and want to thank him for the time and energy he spent doing that.

[Speaker 1] (1:49:25 - 1:49:36)
We've had, you know, a couple people reach out wanting to help the school in some way given the budget crisis and just say like, you know, maybe individually they felt like they could do more.

[Speaker 1] (1:49:37 - 1:49:42)
So I have been meeting with Jason about what that might look like and maybe if we could create like

[Speaker 1] (1:49:43 - 1:49:59)
some sort of menu of opportunities that the one-time opportunities that people wanted to make significant donations what that might look like to help alleviate some stuff on their side so that is ongoing conversation and excited to spend somebody else's money for once

[Speaker 1] (1:50:02 - 1:50:16)
the there's been a couple of conversations about the traffic safety advisory committee and whether or not that should be reinstituted and there's been some chatter about it I know some people have applied to be on it I just want to comment that

[Speaker 1] (1:50:17 - 1:50:21)
I have found, having attended multiple of the community meetings,

[Speaker 1] (1:50:21 - 1:50:22)
not the SNP ones,

[Speaker 1] (1:50:22 - 1:50:23)
but prior to that,

[Speaker 1] (1:50:23 - 1:50:30)
that those community meetings are far more productive than the Traffic Advisory Study Committee was,

[Speaker 1] (1:50:30 - 1:50:41)
only because it sort of put a board of people who don't live in the neighborhood sort of put them in a position where they listened to the neighbors and they listened to the fact that they had to make a decision rather than having the community come together,

[Speaker 1] (1:50:42 - 1:50:44)
the neighbors come together and decide what's best for the neighborhood.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:45 - 1:50:51)
I think Officer Reen agrees that this is a far better approach right now.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:52 - 1:51:02)
Chief Casada also agreed and I think Gino I think you can speak for yourself but I mean I think it's been very effective the way we've been handling it.

[Speaker 3] (1:51:03 - 1:51:09)
I've been part of a traffic study committee for 20 years and this is the most effective board while it's on the board anymore.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:10 - 1:51:10)
Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (1:51:10 - 1:51:11)
setup that we've had.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:11 - 1:51:11)
yeah,

[Speaker 4] (1:51:11 - 1:51:11)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:11 - 1:51:14)
these community meetings have been far more productive, I feel like.

[Speaker 3] (1:51:14 - 1:51:15)
And then having Kevin as the front man.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:15 - 1:51:17)
Yeah, Kevin's been great and very

[Speaker 3] (1:51:17 - 1:51:18)
Yeah, he's been

[Speaker 1] (1:51:18 - 1:51:18)
understanding.

[Speaker 3] (1:51:18 - 1:51:25)
he knocks on doors, he talks, if there's an issue, he addresses it right away instead of waiting a month to have a meeting.

[Speaker 4] (1:51:25 - 1:51:29)
And I think that that helps to take some of the...

[Speaker 4] (1:51:29 - 1:51:33)
some of the volunteers who are well-intentioned and maybe not as knowledgeable,

[Speaker 1] (1:51:33 - 1:51:33)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (1:51:33 - 1:51:39)
certainly not, certainly not as knowledgeable as Officer Reed out of that, out of that uncomfortable position and

[Speaker 1] (1:51:39 - 1:51:39)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (1:51:39 - 1:51:43)
allowing for professional staff to do their job.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:43 - 1:51:49)
Yeah, so I just wanted to mention that so folks didn't feel like we were ignoring the comments related to the traffic advisory committee.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:49 - 1:51:53)
I think for the time being we will not be reinstating it.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:54 - 1:51:56)
Obviously we reserve rights to change our minds.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:56 - 1:51:58)
Community Life Center,

[Speaker 1] (1:51:58 - 1:52:01)
Gino brought up in his TA report,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:02 - 1:52:06)
but we've had a number of wonderful responses.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:07 - 1:52:14)
I actually have them all and will be reviewing them with some of the members of the committee at the end of the week,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:14 - 1:52:18)
which is really fantastic and we'll see where that lands us,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:18 - 1:52:21)
but there has been a whole lot of work done to

[Speaker 1] (1:52:22 - 1:52:28)
you know move that along that consideration along so I just wanted to acknowledge and appreciate the folks who have been doing that.

[Speaker 3] (1:52:29 - 1:52:31)
Can I ask a question about that?

[Speaker 1] (1:52:31 - 1:52:31)
Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (1:52:31 - 1:52:32)
Just that's an RFI

[Speaker 1] (1:52:32 - 1:52:32)
it's an it's

[Speaker 3] (1:52:32 - 1:52:33)
process,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:33 - 1:52:35)
it's an RFI yeah RFI

[Speaker 3] (1:52:35 - 1:52:35)
right?

[Speaker 1] (1:52:35 - 1:52:35)
and

[Speaker 3] (1:52:35 - 1:52:36)
Right and then that's

[Speaker 1] (1:52:36 - 1:52:37)
then that's

[Speaker 3] (1:52:37 - 1:52:40)
to make sure we understand the right scope and then we'd have to go back out

[Speaker 1] (1:52:40 - 1:52:40)
right.

[Speaker 3] (1:52:40 - 1:52:45)
to bid for an RFP for the actual person that would help guide the the assessment.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:46 - 1:52:52)
Yeah and they did it that way because they heard the message at town meeting which is like we maybe have some stock that

[Speaker 3] (1:52:52 - 1:52:52)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:52 - 1:53:03)
we could utilize in a new way or renovate in some way to perhaps house some of these projects so what does the community need what is what are they calling for and how did we then incorporate that into the RFP.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:05 - 1:53:06)
Open space and rec,

[Speaker 1] (1:53:07 - 1:53:18)
we have, I am in receipt of a light pollution reduction policy which they've asked me to review and then hopefully have a conversation here with you guys about that before considering it for a next town meeting.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:19 - 1:53:26)
Right now we don't have a light pollution reduction policy so this is something they created from full cloth and hopefully,

[Speaker 1] (1:53:26 - 1:53:31)
you know, with our input then could go before town meeting and have success.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:32 - 1:53:36)
The library we touched on, the library board of trustees we touched on,

[Speaker 1] (1:53:36 - 1:53:46)
the infographic that came out of some of the presentations that Jonathan has been making in the Commonwealth lately about the successes of our library and again we commend him for those successes.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:46 - 1:53:55)
And then the last, my last update is the chapel update which I'm actually going to ask you to make because you're better at it than I am.

[Speaker 3] (1:53:56 - 1:53:58)
So I met with the Andrews Chapel Committee last.

[Speaker 3] (1:53:59 - 1:54:05)
Wednesday or Thursday night they had worked with a consultant who came up with a proposal

[Speaker 3] (1:54:07 - 1:54:13)
for a little monkey wrench into the plan because he said he cannot take on this work until a year from this October.

[Speaker 3] (1:54:14 - 1:54:27)
So I'm going to meet with him this week to see if we can expedite it a little bit if you can get some of it done if not if he can give me a recommendation to use another architect that is qualified in historic buildings.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:29 - 1:54:30)
Thank you, Gino.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:30 - 1:54:30)
You're welcome.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:32 - 1:54:35)
Okay. It's weird that it's only 8.30 and

[Speaker 4] (1:54:35 - 1:54:35)
What are you gonna do?

[Speaker 1] (1:54:35 - 1:54:36)
I'm entertaining.

[Speaker 3] (1:54:36 - 1:54:38)
My family's gonna be like shocked.

[Speaker 3] (1:54:39 - 1:54:39)
Yep.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:39 - 1:54:39)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (1:54:39 - 1:54:40)
Motion to adjourn.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:41 - 1:54:41)
Second.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:41 - 1:54:42)
Wait, what, wait, wait.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:42 - 1:54:43)
What?

[Speaker 1] (1:54:43 - 1:54:45)
Oh, Hawthorne. Hawthorne, Hawthorne.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:45 - 1:54:45)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:45 - 1:54:46)
Hawthorne.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:46 - 1:54:46)
That's my name.

[Speaker 4] (1:54:46 - 1:54:46)
Oh,

[Speaker 5] (1:54:46 - 1:54:46)
Yeah.

[Speaker 5] (1:54:46 - 1:54:47)
Sorry.

[Speaker 4] (1:54:47 - 1:54:47)
yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:47 - 1:54:52)
Tomorrow night, there is a large meeting from the Hawthorne Reuse Committee.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:53 - 1:54:58)
It will be in the auditorium at the high school. It is from seven.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:58 - 1:54:59)
to 10.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:01 - 1:55:13)
There will be public comment, hopefully public comment will be early in the process since 7 to 10 feels like a long time, but they're going to present some proposals,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:13 - 1:55:20)
they're going to tell us about sort of how they went about the criteria for those proposals and then there'll be some feedback.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:21 - 1:55:23)
And again that's another.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:24 - 1:55:47)
labor of love that committee has gone through and Marcy thank you for all the hard work to get it to this point and now we need the public to engage so please engage this is an opportunity for you to engage there will be one more opportunity I believe they were going to hold two public sessions don't hold me to that but I think that's what they said so oh September 18th okay so that

[Speaker 1] (1:55:48 - 1:55:51)
So, please encourage your,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:51 - 1:55:56)
if you can't make it, please send emails to us. We will make sure they get to the committee,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:56 - 1:56:08)
but we stopped a process that was in motion because the community asked to be engaged. So we are making space for engagement,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:08 - 1:56:12)
so please make sure that we are engaging.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:12 - 1:56:13)
Say again.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:14 - 1:56:15)
One more time.

[Speaker 6] (1:56:15 - 1:56:16)
televised

[Speaker 1] (1:56:16 - 1:56:18)
Is it televised? Oh, great question.

[Speaker 6] (1:56:18 - 1:56:20)
I can't think it is though.

[Speaker 6] (1:56:20 - 1:56:21)
Yeah, I'm okay.

[Speaker 7] (1:56:21 - 1:56:31)
It's going to be taped, it's going to be taped, it's going to be taped and there's also there's also going to be a survey that people can participate in and

[Speaker 7] (1:56:33 - 1:56:39)
You know, the majority of the meeting, only 15 to 20 minutes is reserved for the committee to discuss.

[Speaker 7] (1:56:39 - 1:56:42)
The rest of the meeting is just set up for public comment,

[Speaker 7] (1:56:42 - 1:56:49)
for people to get up and say what they want to say and give information that the meeting is all about listening. It's a listening meeting.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:49 - 1:56:51)
Fantastic. That sounds lovely.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:52 - 1:56:56)
Okay. I think that's it now.

[Speaker 4] (1:56:56 - 1:56:58)
Okay. Motion to adjourn.

[Speaker 3] (1:56:58 - 1:56:58)
Second.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:59 - 1:56:59)
Roll call.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:59 - 1:57:00)
Marianne.

[Speaker 7] (1:57:00 - 1:57:01)
Bye.

[Speaker 1] (1:57:01 - 1:57:02)
Doug.

[Speaker 3] (1:57:02 - 1:57:02)
Bye.

[Speaker 1] (1:57:02 - 1:57:03)
David.

[Speaker 4] (1:57:03 - 1:57:03)
Hi, have

[Speaker 1] (1:57:03 - 1:57:04)
And I am an I. Thank you everybody.

[Speaker 4] (1:57:04 - 1:57:06)
a good night

[Speaker 1] (1:57:06 - 1:57:06)
Good night.