[Speaker 1] (0:39 - 0:40) Check, check, check. [Speaker 1] (32:25 - 32:30) Okay, thank you. Welcome to the Wednesday, September 3rd select board regular session. [Speaker 1] (32:31 - 32:33) Please, oh we are being recorded. [Speaker 1] (32:33 - 32:35) Please rise for the pledge. [Speaker 1] (32:38 - 32:44) I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, [Speaker 1] (32:44 - 32:46) one nation under God, [Speaker 1] (32:46 - 32:48) indivisible, with liberty and justice [Speaker 2] (32:48 - 32:50) for all. [Speaker 1] (32:53 - 32:56) So I'll apologize on behalf of the board for our tardy start. [Speaker 1] (32:56 - 32:59) We did update the agenda from 6.30 to 7. [Speaker 1] (32:59 - 33:02) I do realize it is after 7.30. [Speaker 1] (33:02 - 33:04) We were in executive session, [Speaker 1] (33:04 - 33:07) so apologies for the late start. [Speaker 1] (33:07 - 33:08) But we are ready for you all. [Speaker 1] (33:11 - 33:20) First bit of business is reading some proclamations. So it is National Suicide Prevention Month. [Speaker 1] (33:21 - 33:25) and also National Senior Center Month. [Speaker 1] (33:25 - 33:30) So I will read the first proclamation. [Speaker 1] (33:30 - 33:31) If I could get a volunteer to read the second, [Speaker 3] (33:31 - 33:32) I'll [Speaker 1] (33:32 - 33:32) that would read be great. [Speaker 3] (33:32 - 33:32) the second one. [Speaker 1] (33:32 - 33:33) Thank you, David. [Speaker 1] (33:33 - 33:33) Okay. [Speaker 1] (33:34 - 33:37) National Suicide Prevention Month proclamation by the select board. [Speaker 1] (33:37 - 33:41) Whereas September is known globally as Suicide Prevention and Action Month, [Speaker 1] (33:41 - 33:50) the National Suicide Prevention and Action Month proclamation was created to raise the visibility of mental health resources and suicide prevention services available in our community. [Speaker 1] (33:51 - 34:00) The goal is to start the conversation about mental health and the impact of suicide to help destigmatize the conversation and help connect people with appropriate support services. [Speaker 1] (34:00 - 34:04) And whereas according to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, [Speaker 1] (34:05 - 34:10) suicide is the second leading cause of death among individuals between the ages of 10 and 34, [Speaker 1] (34:10 - 34:18) with more than 48,000 people dying by suicide annually in the United States with a daily rate of 132. [Speaker 1] (34:19 - 34:20) In 2023, [Speaker 1] (34:20 - 34:24) more than 626 Massachusetts residents died by suicide, [Speaker 1] (34:24 - 34:29) and whereas every suicide directly impacts a minimum of 100 additional people, including family, [Speaker 1] (34:29 - 34:30) friends, [Speaker 1] (34:30 - 34:30) co-workers, [Speaker 1] (34:30 - 34:31) neighbors, [Speaker 1] (34:31 - 34:32) and community members, [Speaker 1] (34:32 - 34:38) and whereas the town of Swampscott publicly places its full support behind those who work in the fields of mental health, [Speaker 1] (34:38 - 34:38) education, [Speaker 1] (34:39 - 34:39) and law enforcement. [Speaker 1] (34:40 - 34:43) And whereas global organizations like Hope for the Day, [Speaker 1] (34:43 - 34:50) as well as the town's local mental health partners, serve on the front lines of the war that many still refuse to discuss, [Speaker 1] (34:50 - 34:55) as stigma regarding suicide and mental health issues are far too prevalent. [Speaker 1] (34:55 - 35:06) And whereas we encourage all residents to take the time to understand the importance of mental health education and recognize that taking care of ourselves and others includes taking care of mental health. [Speaker 1] (35:07 - 35:07) Now therefore, [Speaker 1] (35:08 - 35:09) on behalf of the entire select board, [Speaker 1] (35:09 - 35:17) we do hereby proclaim September 2025 as National Suicide Prevention and Action Month in the town of Swampscott, [Speaker 1] (35:17 - 35:21) Massachusetts, and encourage all citizens to join us in this worthy observance. [Speaker 1] (35:21 - 35:27) In witness hereof, we have here unto set our hands and cause to be affixed the great seal of the town of Swampscott, [Speaker 1] (35:27 - 35:27) Massachusetts, [Speaker 1] (35:28 - 35:30) this third day of September 2025, [Speaker 1] (35:30 - 35:32) signed by the Swampscott Select Board. [Speaker 4] (35:34 - 35:34) Thanks, [Speaker 4] (35:34 - 35:34) Katie. [Speaker 4] (35:35 - 35:37) National Senior Center Month, [Speaker 4] (35:37 - 35:39) the proclamation by the select board, [Speaker 4] (35:40 - 35:42) whereas since 2007, [Speaker 4] (35:42 - 35:58) National Senior Center Month is celebrated every year in September as recognized by the National Council on Aging and National Institute of Senior Centers to celebrate senior centers across the country and incredible work they do to enrich and extend the lives of older adults and [Speaker 4] (35:58 - 36:06) Whereas the Swampscott Senior Center is committed to being an inclusive community and welcoming of all people regardless of their race, religion, [Speaker 4] (36:06 - 36:26) sexual orientation and gender identity and recognizes that we are a diverse community and whereas the town of Swampscott supports the rights of every citizen to experience equality and freedom from discrimination and whereas the origin of National Senior Center Month can be found in National Senior Center Week. [Speaker 4] (36:27 - 36:41) which was first celebrated annually in May 1979 to recognize the more than 10,000 senior centers throughout the nation and gain wide support through organizations such as the National Council on Aging, the U.S. Conference of Mayors Aging Task Force, [Speaker 4] (36:42 - 36:53) and the full Senate and House Select Committees on Aging, and whereas in 1985, President Ronald Reagan signed the first Senior Center Week presidential proclamation with the support of the National Institute of Senior Centers. [Speaker 4] (36:53 - 36:55) And by 2007, [Speaker 4] (36:55 - 37:07) the idea behind National Senior Center Week became so popular that NISC expanded the celebration of senior centers to an entire month by designating each September to be the month of celebration and [Speaker 4] (37:08 - 37:09) Whereas, [Speaker 4] (37:09 - 37:09) in 2021, [Speaker 4] (37:10 - 37:15) the town of Swampskate appointed a full-time director to lead the senior center and has doubled its budget, [Speaker 4] (37:15 - 37:20) and whereas the town of Swampskate has a senior center that focuses on social, [Speaker 4] (37:20 - 37:21) educational, [Speaker 4] (37:21 - 37:26) and wellness programs by providing seniors with a wide variety of enriching programming, [Speaker 4] (37:26 - 37:27) nutritious meals, [Speaker 4] (37:28 - 37:29) and low-cost transportation, [Speaker 4] (37:29 - 37:34) and whereas the town of Swampskate is proud of our expanding senior... [Speaker 4] (37:34 - 37:59) community and understands that senior centers are paramount to the overall health of our senior citizens particularly as the center strives to engage with isolated seniors bringing them into community and whereas Swampskit is embarking on an endeavor to create a state-of-the-art center for all ages designed to address the needs of seniors together with all generations in one community center and now therefore [Speaker 4] (38:00 - 38:14) By the virtue of the authority vested in the town administrator in each of the below select board members in the town of Swampskate, we hereby proclaim the month of September as National Senior Center Month in the town of Swampskate, Massachusetts, [Speaker 4] (38:14 - 38:16) and encourage all faith-based. [Speaker 4] (38:18 - 38:19) And nonprofit organizations, [Speaker 4] (38:19 - 38:20) residents, [Speaker 4] (38:20 - 38:23) businesses, and public institutions to acknowledge, honor, [Speaker 4] (38:23 - 38:23) value, [Speaker 4] (38:23 - 38:25) and celebrate older adults' [Speaker 4] (38:25 - 38:30) contributions to our community and to recognize the importance of those who serve them daily, [Speaker 4] (38:30 - 38:37) in witness whereof we have hereunto set our hands and cause to be affixed the great seal of the town of Swampskate, Massachusetts, [Speaker 4] (38:38 - 38:40) this third day of September 2025. [Speaker 1] (38:41 - 38:42) Thank you, David. [Speaker 1] (38:45 - 38:53) All righty. We will both very worthy causes, although sort of opposite ends of the spectrum, [Speaker 1] (38:53 - 38:56) both worth conversation in our daily lives. [Speaker 1] (38:57 - 39:04) And thank you to Heidi and the staff at the Senior Center for continuing to provide excellent programming for our seniors. [Speaker 1] (39:05 - 39:19) And thank you to our law enforcement and school staff and the health department for the work that they do related to calls to crisis in town and prevention to calls to crisis in town, [Speaker 1] (39:19 - 39:28) recognizing all of our town departments that facilitate both of these proclamations. So moving on to the town administrator's report. [Speaker 5] (39:30 - 39:31) Thank you. Give [Speaker 1] (39:31 - 39:31) Hello. [Speaker 5] (39:31 - 39:35) an abbreviated version if anybody wants the full version. It's posted within [Speaker 6] (39:35 - 39:35) Tomorrow. [Speaker 5] (39:35 - 39:36) the, tomorrow. [Speaker 1] (39:36 - 39:37) Perfect. [Speaker 1] (39:37 - 39:37) Thank you, [Speaker 5] (39:37 - 39:37) Meeting's [Speaker 1] (39:37 - 39:37) Jim. [Speaker 5] (39:37 - 39:44) moving right along. Uh this weekend, the weekend of August 22nd through the 24th saw dangerously high [Speaker 1] (39:50 - 39:56) Chief Casada would like to formally commend Officer Kevin Rean for life-saving actions on Saturday, [Speaker 1] (39:56 - 39:58) August 23rd at Phillips Beach. [Speaker 1] (39:58 - 39:59) While off duty, [Speaker 1] (40:00 - 40:10) Officer Rean demonstrated incredible courage and bravery in a critical situation by rescuing a distressed swimmer using his paddleboard. [Speaker 1] (40:11 - 40:17) Also assisting in the rescue were members of the Swampscott Police Department, the Swampscott Fire Department, [Speaker 1] (40:17 - 40:18) our harbor master, [Speaker 1] (40:19 - 40:22) Oport, Oport Ambulance as well as the Phillips Beach lifeguards. [Speaker 1] (40:24 - 40:25) It's amazing, really. [Speaker 1] (40:27 - 40:35) Read it over there. I think most of us know about Kevin anyways and I'm not surprised. Alright, community development, the Harvey. [Speaker 1] (40:36 - 40:43) Dilemma has received both state and federal approvals for part one of the historic tax credit application. [Speaker 1] (40:44 - 40:47) These approvals are important milestones in the process. [Speaker 1] (40:47 - 40:53) The next step is to officially designate the building as a certified historic structure, [Speaker 1] (40:53 - 40:57) a key requirement for accessing historic tax credits. [Speaker 1] (40:58 - 41:05) The Delamar team is currently updating a schematic plan and is scheduled to share them publicly at the September seventeenth select board meeting. [Speaker 1] (41:08 - 41:10) Hawthorne reuse public forum. [Speaker 1] (41:11 - 41:23) The Hawthorne reuse committee held its first public forum on Wednesday August twentieth with a robust turnout of approximately seventy five residents. The committee provided an overview of the process to date. [Speaker 1] (41:23 - 41:30) outlined next steps and welcomed a productive and respectful exchange of public input and questions. [Speaker 1] (41:31 - 41:40) Community feedback continues to be a critical role in shaping the committee's ongoing work. A second public forum currently scheduled for September 18th [Speaker 1] (41:42 - 41:53) Residents are encouraged to share their input by completing the online survey or by filling out a paper copy of the questionnaire, which is available at the town hall or the Swampscott Public Library. [Speaker 1] (41:54 - 42:05) Pine Street. A neighbor of thousands submitted a comprehensive permit application which is scheduled to be reviewed by the ZBA meeting on September 16, [Speaker 1] (42:05 - 42:05) 2025. [Speaker 1] (42:07 - 42:13) The town has reached out to the Massachusetts Housing Partnership to request technical assistance. [Speaker 1] (42:14 - 42:23) MHP will support the ZBA throughout the comprehensive permit process and in identifying best practices for project review and conditioning. [Speaker 1] (42:25 - 42:25) Building. [Speaker 1] (42:25 - 42:32) The building apartment issued 116 permits and received close to $30,000 of revenue. [Speaker 1] (42:33 - 42:34) The month of August. [Speaker 1] (42:35 - 42:39) Library is discussing a possible repair cafe with the Solid Waste Advisory Committee. [Speaker 1] (42:41 - 42:43) The library is interviewing for three opening positions. [Speaker 1] (42:43 - 42:50) Actually two of them have been filled and interviews are ongoing for the Head of Technical Services, which is a full-time position. [Speaker 1] (42:53 - 42:54) Health Department. [Speaker 1] (42:55 - 43:00) Wednesday August 27th was the last beach sampling collection of the season administered. [Speaker 1] (43:01 - 43:04) administered by the Mass Department of Public Health Beaches Program. [Speaker 1] (43:07 - 43:15) Siena Centre. Theo Carrangelo has been hired as the Siena's senior senate s Chief Cook and Bottle Washer. [Speaker 1] (43:17 - 43:18) Interesting, right. [Speaker 1] (43:19 - 43:28) Upcoming lunch and learn topics include fall prevention, dementia myths and realities, G_L_S_S_ outreach and shine, just to name a few. [Speaker 1] (43:30 - 43:34) The Senior Center has taken possession of its new electric van. [Speaker 3] (43:35 - 43:35) Whoo-hoo. [Speaker 1] (43:36 - 43:38) Right? I would like that. [Speaker 1] (43:39 - 43:45) Recreation. Although the summer movie night series has come to an end, Beetlejuice will be shown on Thursday, [Speaker 1] (43:45 - 43:51) October second, at six thirty p m. Movie nights are sponsored by San Marcos American Tavern. [Speaker 1] (43:52 - 43:57) Swamptoberfest is this Saturday from eight p m to four p m on the town hall lawn. [Speaker 1] (43:57 - 44:00) The Townwide Yard Sale and Ports Fest will be held on Saturday, [Speaker 1] (44:01 - 44:07) September 20th, and the annual Swampscott Classics Car Show is scheduled for October 12th. [Speaker 1] (44:08 - 44:14) Human Resources has been busy conducting industry interviews for multiple open positions, [Speaker 1] (44:14 - 44:16) including town accountant, [Speaker 1] (44:17 - 44:18) assistant town accountant, [Speaker 1] (44:19 - 44:22) three firefighters, library head of technical services. [Speaker 1] (44:24 - 44:25) Manu Syn Development Planner. [Speaker 1] (44:26 - 44:35) Additionally, the Police Department will be having holding their oral boards on September twenty second. Presently there are eight potential candidates. [Speaker 1] (44:36 - 44:45) Also regarding the Police Department, Officer Wilson and Sora were recognised by the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association for their SRO success story. [Speaker 1] (44:46 - 44:52) The S the Police Department is currently conducting mandatory department-wide active shooting training. [Speaker 1] (44:52 - 44:57) which will continue through September 4th at the former Hadley Elementary School. [Speaker 1] (44:58 - 45:03) Fire Department Chief Archer has interviewed eight applicants for the three current vacancies. [Speaker 1] (45:05 - 45:16) Public Works, National Water Main Cleaning Company and their subcontractor, Andrenison Sons, continue to replace compromised sewer mains as part of phase 2A of the Stacy Brook Sewer System Improvement Projects. [Speaker 1] (45:17 - 45:21) DPW staff remain busy painting crosswalks, lining athletic fields, [Speaker 1] (45:21 - 45:26) replacing damaged asphalt sidewalks, raking town beaches and pruning trees. [Speaker 1] (45:27 - 45:30) The three month UV pilot program concluded on Monday, [Speaker 1] (45:30 - 45:31) August eighteenth. [Speaker 1] (45:33 - 45:36) Kleinfeld, the consultant for both the City of Linn and Swampscott, [Speaker 1] (45:36 - 45:41) is evaluating the data and will have a full report ready for presentation by the end of September. [Speaker 1] (45:43 - 45:44) Trash. [Speaker 1] (45:44 - 45:50) For this upcoming weekend, recycling only will be collected at the DPW yard. Last weekend, [Speaker 1] (45:51 - 45:52) DPW workers collected recycling, [Speaker 1] (45:53 - 45:59) metal and styrofoam, filling fourteen thirty yard dumpsters and two DPW trucks. [Speaker 1] (45:59 - 46:02) For the weekend of September twelfth through the fourteenth, [Speaker 1] (46:03 - 46:10) we will accept yard waste along with recycling. If you need assistance transporting your recycling to the DPW yard, [Speaker 1] (46:10 - 46:11) please contact Diane. [Speaker 1] (46:12 - 46:13) At D. [Speaker 1] (46:13 - 46:21) Marchese, at swampscottma.gov, or call her at 781-596-8850, extension 1226. [Speaker 1] (46:22 - 46:23) Thank you Diane. [Speaker 1] (46:25 - 46:26) Uh [Speaker 4] (46:27 - 46:28) Questions? [Speaker 1] (46:28 - 46:29) Any questions, you want me to go on? [Speaker 1] (46:29 - 46:34) I know David had asked me, would you have a brief update on the trash? So if you don't mind. [Speaker 5] (46:34 - 46:35) Can I just put a question on crosswalks? [Speaker 1] (46:35 - 46:36) Sure. [Speaker 5] (46:36 - 46:40) If um if there's if there are neighbourhoods that feel like they need a crosswalk [Speaker 1] (46:40 - 46:40) Yep. [Speaker 5] (46:40 - 46:42) in their area, what's the protocol? [Speaker 1] (46:42 - 46:44) Contact officer Reen. [Speaker 5] (46:44 - 46:44) Okay. [Speaker 1] (46:44 - 46:53) Yep. I won't talk about that. Some people think it's just as simple as painting a couple of white lines. But it's more complicated than that because we have to put the ramps in now on both sides of the crosswalk. [Speaker 5] (46:53 - 46:53) Okay. [Speaker 1] (46:55 - 46:56) Thank [Speaker 6] (46:56 - 46:56) Go ahead, [Speaker 1] (46:56 - 46:56) you. [Speaker 6] (46:56 - 46:56) trash update. [Speaker 1] (46:56 - 46:57) Trash update? [Speaker 6] (46:57 - 46:58) Please. [Speaker 1] (46:58 - 47:08) All right. So each week I give you an update on what we're collecting and what's going on. But I wanted to give you a a brief overview of what's been happening over the last ten weeks. So [Speaker 1] (47:10 - 47:13) the Republic Services trash strike is entering its tenth week. [Speaker 1] (47:14 - 47:16) Republic has contracts for trash pickup w [Speaker 1] (47:17 - 47:21) In fourteen cities and towns across eastern Massachusetts, including Canton, [Speaker 1] (47:21 - 47:22) Canvas, Gloucester, Ipswich, [Speaker 1] (47:23 - 47:24) Linfield, [Speaker 1] (47:24 - 47:24) Malden, [Speaker 1] (47:24 - 47:26) Manchester-by-the-Sea, Marblehead, [Speaker 1] (47:26 - 47:26) North Reading, [Speaker 1] (47:27 - 47:27) Peabody, [Speaker 1] (47:27 - 47:28) Swampscott, [Speaker 1] (47:28 - 47:29) Wakefield, and Watertown. [Speaker 1] (47:30 - 47:32) On July 18, [Speaker 1] (47:32 - 47:33) six communities, [Speaker 1] (47:34 - 47:34) Canton, [Speaker 1] (47:34 - 47:46) Danvers, Gloucester, Beverly and Peabody filed a joint complaint asking a judge to intervene in the strike demanding for public services fulfill its contracts to pick up accumulating garbage and pay for the municipality's cost. [Speaker 1] (47:47 - 48:12) Unfortunately an Essex appeared court judge Kathleen McCarthy denied the motion while seeming to note she was hamstrung by the law and the real realities of the situation because I was asked why we didn't join on that and at the time I thought it was more symbolic than anything else. Some most of these communities that did file have in-house staff to work with it would have probably cost us a few dollars to join in that. [Speaker 1] (48:13 - 48:30) All right. Also, Governor Murray Healy wrote to John Van der Ark, President and Chief Executive Officer at Republic Services on August 18th, August 11th, demanding the company return to the bargaining table and negotiate in good faith to end the strike that met with deaf ears, [Speaker 1] (48:30 - 48:31) unfortunately. [Speaker 1] (48:31 - 48:36) Republic Services jointly arranged to meet with the teams last Thursday, [Speaker 1] (48:36 - 48:44) October, August 28th. Negotiations included an additional new federal mediator joining the session. However, [Speaker 7] (48:44 - 48:45) What's going on? [Speaker 1] (48:45 - 48:47) no settlement was reached. [Speaker 1] (48:48 - 49:01) On Tuesday of this week, which was yesterday, Governor Healey expressed continued frustration with the company. I continue to be underwhelmed and disgusted by the way the Republic is engaged. They've got to get back to the table. We need this resolved. [Speaker 1] (49:02 - 49:04) Once again, we thank the governor. Again, [Speaker 1] (49:04 - 49:08) it's not making any progress. We found out today, [Speaker 1] (49:08 - 49:10) unfortunate news again, [Speaker 1] (49:10 - 49:16) that Republic Teamsters voted down the company's latest offer by more than eighty four percent. [Speaker 8] (49:16 - 49:16) Oh, shit. [Speaker 1] (49:17 - 49:21) The 400 Republic employees have been on strike now for 65 days. [Speaker 1] (49:23 - 49:27) So we're continuing to do our best, as I said, the weekly updates, [Speaker 1] (49:27 - 49:29) collect and recycling. It's still, [Speaker 1] (49:30 - 49:38) I believe it's been a success. I know it's an inconvenience to a lot of people, but I s also noticed that a lot of residents are s you know, helping out their, [Speaker 1] (49:38 - 49:39) stepping up to help out. [Speaker 3] (49:46 - 49:46) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 1] (49:47 - 49:47) Hey. [Speaker 3] (49:47 - 49:49) I'm the driver for my neighbourhood. [Speaker 1] (49:49 - 49:49) Yep. [Speaker 4] (49:50 - 49:59) Um, Gino, could you just give a little insight as to why we just don't go with another company? I know we've talked about this a lot of times, but like rel relative to our cost of contract right now. [Speaker 1] (49:59 - 50:15) Right. So I think all of us, when I failed to mention is the fourteen communities we meet on a regular basis. We have and I think it's all our belief that if we were to reach out another company now, at desperate times, they're they're gonna hold us over a barrel over whoever comes in to take care all of them. [Speaker 4] (50:15 - 50:21) And of those 14 communities that are on strike right now, I don't know relative to other folks' [Speaker 4] (50:21 - 50:21) contracts, [Speaker 4] (50:21 - 50:38) but our contract is pretty favorable right now because we are at the tail end of a contract which will need to be renegotiated, but we're in a very favorable position under this contract. So if we were to go off and renegotiate, we would absolutely see an increased cost. [Speaker 1] (50:38 - 50:39) Exactly, yep. [Speaker 4] (50:39 - 50:42) So I think that's important for everybody to understand also. [Speaker 4] (50:42 - 50:44) So yes, this is an inconvenience. [Speaker 4] (50:44 - 50:52) for sure the public is paying taxes for a service they're not receiving but if we were to go out and retain that service right now under the conditions [Speaker 4] (50:54 - 50:56) There may be a change in [Speaker 1] (50:56 - 50:57) Right is [Speaker 3] (50:57 - 50:59) Well, there will be a change no matter what. There is [Speaker 4] (50:59 - 51:00) No matter what, [Speaker 3] (51:00 - 51:01) going to yeah. be there is going to be a change in [Speaker 1] (51:01 - 51:01) July one. [Speaker 3] (51:01 - 51:02) a financial impact. [Speaker 4] (51:02 - 51:03) A financial impact. [Speaker 3] (51:03 - 51:05) July one is when our new [Speaker 1] (51:05 - 51:05) 2026 [Speaker 3] (51:05 - 51:14) right, twenty six. And we right now have a a group together that's starting to work on the parameters for the new [Speaker 1] (51:14 - 51:14) Exactly [Speaker 3] (51:14 - 51:14) contract. [Speaker 1] (51:14 - 51:16) what we get with assistance from the DEP. [Speaker 3] (51:16 - 51:17) Right. [Speaker 1] (51:17 - 51:22) All right, we got a grant. It's just sort of record right now annually we're paying 1.1 million dollars just for [Speaker 1] (51:22 - 51:33) just for their services and then we pay a tip and fee of a hundred and eight dollars per ton for trash disposal and eighty five dollars a ton for recycling and as Katie mentioned those are very favorable numbers. [Speaker 5] (51:33 - 51:36) What would Uh-huh. the what would the market bear today, Gio? Any any sense? [Speaker 1] (51:37 - 51:38) I actually don't but [Speaker 3] (51:38 - 51:38) On tipping? [Speaker 1] (51:38 - 51:40) on tipping Contract [Speaker 5] (51:40 - 51:41) Just [Speaker 4] (51:41 - 51:42) On cost of contract. [Speaker 5] (51:42 - 51:43) it it's on cost of contract in [Speaker 1] (51:43 - 51:43) I [Speaker 5] (51:43 - 51:43) general. [Speaker 1] (51:43 - 51:50) don't know yeah but I probably could find out by one of these communities that has recently settled or signed a new contract. [Speaker 1] (51:51 - 51:53) I'm sure they'd be happy to share that information. [Speaker 3] (51:53 - 51:54) If Wayne Spritz is listening to this meeting, [Speaker 3] (51:54 - 51:54) he [Speaker 1] (51:54 - 51:55) Oh, [Speaker 3] (51:55 - 51:55) will [Speaker 1] (51:55 - 51:55) yeah. [Speaker 3] (51:55 - 51:56) get back to us in seconds. [Speaker 1] (51:56 - 51:57) Oh, sure. [Speaker 5] (51:57 - 52:10) Uh Gino, is there uh are there any plans for Republic to pick up um recycling as they as they have trash? Maybe maybe not weekly, but maybe every other week or t any any discussions. [Speaker 1] (52:10 - 52:18) Oh, yeah. So I'm in contact with Dan Higgins on a three, four times a week. And as a matter of fact, two weeks ago he offered to give me two trucks on a Saturday. [Speaker 1] (52:18 - 52:33) ready to come in and just pick up strictly recycling. And I decline that offer because I said just a political nightmare because there's no way they could finish the town with two trucks. And where would he start? He said maybe we'll start on the main street streets. And I said exactly. [Speaker 5] (52:33 - 52:35) And then you're just gonna have a bunch of phone calls Right, and [Speaker 4] (52:35 - 52:36) then why not you me? [Speaker 5] (52:36 - 52:37) missed me. Yeah. [Speaker 1] (52:37 - 52:37) Yeah. [Speaker 6] (52:37 - 52:37) Right. [Speaker 5] (52:37 - 52:37) Yeah. [Speaker 6] (52:37 - 52:44) But I mean can we can we at least make the ask, you know, to build on that? Like if we knew that we could get that, you know, [Speaker 1] (52:46 - 52:47) Well more importantly [Speaker 6] (52:47 - 52:47) One [Speaker 1] (52:47 - 52:47) when I'm [Speaker 6] (52:47 - 52:47) once [Speaker 1] (52:47 - 52:47) working [Speaker 6] (52:47 - 52:51) a week, you know two trucks over the four weeks or something, [Speaker 6] (52:51 - 52:57) you know Just go around town you everyone's not going to get it at once, but everyone knows it's coming over the next month something [Speaker 1] (52:57 - 52:59) Yeah, I could ask [Speaker 1] (53:00 - 53:01) Because I don't I'm just [Speaker 6] (53:01 - 53:02) I appreciate that enthusiasm [Speaker 1] (53:02 - 53:08) Yeah, well, I worry about it because we have people once they know it's not getting picked up They know they have the option [Speaker 3] (53:09 - 53:10) Hmm. [Speaker 1] (53:10 - 53:13) I'd hate to see stuff, you're going to leave your recycling out this week, [Speaker 3] (53:13 - 53:13) Right. [Speaker 1] (53:13 - 53:21) and we don't know what the route is, and if they're going to do the whole town in three or four, it's going to take a couple weeks. The recycling's just going to sit on the street for a while. [Speaker 6] (53:21 - 53:28) Oh, I'm sure I'm sure with our awesome communication vehicles we could um identify where they would be and where they wouldn't be. [Speaker 1] (53:29 - 53:29) Oh. [Speaker 3] (53:29 - 53:30) Sounds like it'll be an [Speaker 1] (53:31 - 53:31) I'd like to [Speaker 7] (53:32 - 53:32) Late there. [Speaker 4] (53:32 - 53:33) Yeah, I [Speaker 1] (53:33 - 53:48) You've noticed that Diane for stepping up, but Diane took it upon herself was saying she reached out and residents had contacted her if they're disabled, elderly, if they can't find a way, then she finds three residents in swamps that are willing to take their own pickup trucks to pick up people's recycling. [Speaker 3] (53:48 - 53:50) Yeah. It worked out real well. [Speaker 1] (53:50 - 53:50) Exactly. [Speaker 5] (53:50 - 53:50) Right. [Speaker 3] (53:51 - 53:52) And I have a few extra names this week. [Speaker 1] (53:52 - 53:53) Exactly. [Speaker 4] (53:53 - 54:09) I think the other thing to recognize is the difference between communities who have transfer stations and who do not because a lot of people have said like well why do we not have that ability but Marblehead does and from my understanding correct me if I'm wrong is because they take the recycling to the transfer station and [Speaker 1] (54:09 - 54:09) And I, [Speaker 4] (54:09 - 54:12) then they can come back around to town quickly we [Speaker 3] (54:12 - 54:13) Right. [Speaker 4] (54:13 - 54:14) have to go all the way to [Speaker 1] (54:14 - 54:15) to North Andover. [Speaker 4] (54:15 - 54:19) North Andover and so we can't do as many routes in the same time period. [Speaker 4] (54:19 - 54:29) So that's a big difference between why other communities are having more benefits than we are because we don't have the we don't have a transfer station that we have a relationship with close by. [Speaker 1] (54:29 - 54:29) Right. [Speaker 1] (54:29 - 54:33) So what I'm working on now is trying next week is yard waste pickup. [Speaker 1] (54:33 - 54:37) So we've already put it out there that you can drop off your yard waste to the DPW yard. [Speaker 1] (54:37 - 54:40) I am still going to try to get a couple of trucks in to pick up the yard waste. [Speaker 4] (54:40 - 54:41) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (54:41 - 54:43) This week shouldn't be too bad. [Speaker 1] (54:44 - 54:46) I'm worried about the next one and not call alone when [Speaker 4] (54:46 - 54:46) Right. [Speaker 1] (54:46 - 54:47) all the leaves start falling. [Speaker 4] (54:48 - 54:48) And [Speaker 1] (54:48 - 54:48) And [Speaker 4] (54:48 - 54:48) it's one [Speaker 1] (54:48 - 54:48) that's [Speaker 4] (54:48 - 54:48) thing [Speaker 1] (54:48 - 54:49) just going [Speaker 4] (54:49 - 54:49) to [Speaker 1] (54:49 - 54:49) to be very... [Speaker 4] (54:49 - 54:59) take your recycling down to the DPW yard in your trunk of your car, and it's another thing to put, you know, 15 bags of leaves in the back of your car if you don't have the ability to do that, so. [Speaker 1] (55:00 - 55:00) Great point. [Speaker 4] (55:00 - 55:01) That's really... [Speaker 1] (55:01 - 55:01) Yep. [Speaker 1] (55:02 - 55:07) So I wish I had better news for you regarding the strike, but unfortunately it's not [Speaker 3] (55:07 - 55:08) Well, you're doing a great job with it. Thank you. [Speaker 1] (55:08 - 55:09) Thank you. [Speaker 3] (55:09 - 55:10) And thank you to all the folks [Speaker 5] (55:10 - 55:11) Thank you very much. [Speaker 3] (55:11 - 55:12) at DPW. [Speaker 1] (55:13 - 55:13) We're guys. [Speaker 3] (55:13 - 55:14) It is nice to see them every weekend. [Speaker 1] (55:14 - 55:15) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (55:15 - 55:16) I [Speaker 8] (55:16 - 55:16) I [Speaker 4] (55:16 - 55:16) know. [Speaker 1] (55:16 - 55:17) had a lot of fun with I it. [Speaker 8] (55:17 - 55:21) mean it really it does not you would not walk around this town thinking we're in a town with a trash strike. [Speaker 8] (55:22 - 55:25) You do not see trash anywhere. I mean it's been seamless. [Speaker 8] (55:25 - 55:27) So kudos to that. [Speaker 8] (55:27 - 55:30) And I think that's part of the reason too that we're afraid to. [Speaker 8] (55:30 - 55:37) to enter the recycling realm because what if you know we do that and then trash slips you [Speaker 4] (55:37 - 55:37) Yeah. [Speaker 8] (55:37 - 55:37) know I'd hate [Speaker 1] (55:37 - 55:37) So what's [Speaker 8] (55:37 - 55:38) to see you [Speaker 1] (55:38 - 55:38) the evils? [Speaker 8] (55:38 - 55:44) know one sacrifice for the other so I would prefer to have trash picked up personally but you [Speaker 4] (55:44 - 55:47) And I have heard residents just say, I don't recycle now. [Speaker 4] (55:47 - 55:51) I just put everything in trash because the trash gets picked up and then I don't have to don't go to DBW yard. [Speaker 8] (55:51 - 55:51) yeah [Speaker 4] (55:51 - 55:52) And that's a shame. [Speaker 8] (55:52 - 55:52) we [Speaker 3] (55:52 - 55:53) That's [Speaker 8] (55:53 - 55:53) don't want [Speaker 3] (55:53 - 55:56) a shame because there's a large gap between the tonnage on recycling. [Speaker 3] (55:57 - 55:57) Well, [Speaker 1] (55:57 - 55:57) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (55:57 - 56:02) besides the financial, it's also environmentally it's disappointing. [Speaker 8] (56:03 - 56:03) Yep. [Speaker 4] (56:04 - 56:04) Right. [Speaker 8] (56:04 - 56:04) Yes. [Speaker 4] (56:04 - 56:04) So [Speaker 5] (56:06 - 56:08) But it is good to know that we have options. [Speaker 4] (56:08 - 56:08) We have options. [Speaker 5] (56:08 - 56:11) We do want Right. to be environmentally friendly to come down to the DPW. [Speaker 1] (56:11 - 56:11) Okay. [Speaker 8] (56:11 - 56:12) Yeah. [Speaker 5] (56:12 - 56:12) Um [Speaker 1] (56:12 - 56:15) And meet with a bunch of friendly guys. It's a little bit. [Speaker 8] (56:16 - 56:16) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 4] (56:17 - 56:21) Alright, any other questions from the rest of the update outside of trash? [Speaker 8] (56:21 - 56:22) I had a couple. I [Speaker 4] (56:22 - 56:22) Please, [Speaker 8] (56:22 - 56:23) did have a Daniel. couple. [Speaker 8] (56:24 - 56:26) Gino, so my question, or a couple, [Speaker 8] (56:26 - 56:28) Hadley, what [Speaker 1] (56:28 - 56:29) Yes. [Speaker 8] (56:31 - 56:46) is the plan to kind of just make sure it's kept in ship shape, like good shape, because I feel like it's getting a bit unruly, a little overgrown, a little bit, you know, just to the eye. [Speaker 1] (56:46 - 56:46) Yep. [Speaker 8] (56:46 - 56:47) What is the plan there? [Speaker 1] (56:49 - 56:51) I think we can get the DPW staff over there to clean it up. [Speaker 8] (56:51 - 56:52) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (56:52 - 56:52) We'll talk [Speaker 8] (56:52 - 56:52) just to [Speaker 1] (56:52 - 56:52) about [Speaker 8] (56:52 - 56:52) kind of [Speaker 1] (56:52 - 56:54) the weeds and stuff in the building. [Speaker 8] (56:54 - 57:09) Yeah. In my other thought is, what is the plan for that playground structure that is currently at Hadley? Have we considered what we're going to do with that? Where it's going to be moved? What's going to happen to it, the playground equipment? [Speaker 1] (57:09 - 57:09) We have not. [Speaker 4] (57:10 - 57:10) We have. [Speaker 8] (57:10 - 57:10) Okay. [Speaker 1] (57:10 - 57:13) But we will keep that. Right. We're going to store it somewhere in [Speaker 4] (57:13 - 57:14) No, [Speaker 1] (57:14 - 57:14) the neighborhood. [Speaker 4] (57:14 - 57:14) we have. [Speaker 1] (57:14 - 57:15) Oh, you have. All right. [Speaker 1] (57:16 - 57:16) How's he? [Speaker 1] (57:17 - 57:18) Isn't some of it antiquated? [Speaker 9] (57:22 - 57:25) located to Linscott Park. [Speaker 9] (57:25 - 57:33) Right now as you know Linscott Park the only play feature on it is the swing set. So we're looking to add or relocate the play equipment there. [Speaker 8] (57:33 - 57:33) Great. [Speaker 1] (57:33 - 57:34) Okay. [Speaker 8] (57:34 - 57:35) Do you know the timeline, [Speaker 8] (57:35 - 57:35) Martha? [Speaker 8] (57:35 - 57:36) May I interject? [Speaker 9] (57:36 - 57:42) Well, so we're just waiting to see once we finalize and we have a better timeline from Dendell and our folks then [Speaker 8] (57:42 - 57:42) Okay. [Speaker 9] (57:42 - 57:43) this way we'll plan accordingly. [Speaker 8] (57:44 - 57:47) Okay. And my reasoning for asking that question is I think that [Speaker 8] (57:48 - 58:13) whatever the plan is it we should kind of get that out there in the public because I think people are you know when you look at the next topic and you think of half Hawthorne reuse and whether or not you know people want to see playgrounds and things of that nature if we're planning on doing something to augment our existing playground somewhere that should be public knowledge right so that should be something we're communicating out and actively letting people know. [Speaker 8] (58:14 - 58:17) I did have another question. Let me just see where it is. [Speaker 8] (58:17 - 58:18) Sorry. [Speaker 8] (58:19 - 58:20) On the building department, [Speaker 8] (58:21 - 58:22) with the permits and, [Speaker 8] (58:22 - 58:25) you know, 30,000 in permit fees, [Speaker 8] (58:25 - 58:31) do we have any idea of how comparable that is to prior to having Rich Baldacci on staff, [Speaker 8] (58:32 - 58:33) that figure? [Speaker 1] (58:34 - 58:36) I don't, but I'm sure we have records of that I can find out. [Speaker 8] (58:37 - 58:39) I would just be curious to see since the hiring of... [Speaker 8] (58:40 - 58:43) Of Mr. Baldacci, I I suspect that that number [Speaker 1] (58:43 - 58:44) Oh, I would definitely [Speaker 8] (58:44 - 58:44) has [Speaker 1] (58:44 - 58:44) recommend [Speaker 8] (58:44 - 58:52) gone up to that level because of him. And I just really want to understand if that's the case and um I'm guessing it is, but I'd [Speaker 1] (58:52 - 58:52) It definitely [Speaker 8] (58:52 - 58:52) like to I'd [Speaker 1] (58:52 - 58:52) is. [Speaker 8] (58:52 - 58:54) like to know that. [Speaker 3] (58:54 - 58:56) Well what is the process in that is just [Speaker 3] (58:57 - 59:02) Is Rich going out and saying, hey, you need a building permit or people come in and say I need a building permit? I mean [Speaker 1] (59:02 - 59:10) People are coming in, but we have two local inspectors who are driving around. If they drive around, oh, actually it's just one now, Roger Ennis, if he drives around and sees construction going on, [Speaker 1] (59:10 - 59:15) he'll get out of his vehicle and walk up to the door and check him. But to your point, [Speaker 1] (59:15 - 59:16) I think. [Speaker 1] (59:18 - 59:21) Most people knew for a while we didn't have a building commissioner, [Speaker 3] (59:21 - 59:22) Right. [Speaker 1] (59:22 - 59:24) so no one was guiding the handout. So [Speaker 3] (59:24 - 59:24) Right. [Speaker 1] (59:24 - 59:25) why pull it from it. [Speaker 3] (59:25 - 59:25) Right. [Speaker 1] (59:25 - 59:27) So, but now that they know Rich is here [Speaker 8] (59:27 - 59:32) Right, and the enforcing of the you know, this the notices to businesses and the numbers [Speaker 1] (59:32 - 59:32) Yep. [Speaker 8] (59:32 - 59:34) and the homeowners, if that's generating revenue. [Speaker 3] (59:41 - 59:41) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (59:41 - 59:41) is. [Speaker 3] (59:41 - 59:42) I don't think the house numbers [Speaker 1] (59:42 - 59:45) If he started giving out violations and fines and [Speaker 3] (59:45 - 59:45) Oh yeah. [Speaker 1] (59:45 - 59:45) things like that. [Speaker 3] (59:45 - 59:46) Yep. [Speaker 1] (59:46 - 59:51) Um I also wanted to know, um under human resources, [Speaker 3] (59:51 - 59:51) Yep. [Speaker 1] (59:51 - 59:53) where are we with a full-time assessor? [Speaker 4] (59:54 - 59:54) That [Speaker 1] (59:54 - 59:56) Where where are we in that conversation? [Speaker 5] (59:56 - 59:57) Advertised. [Speaker 4] (59:57 - 1:00:01) So with it's been advertised for the last two weeks and we [Speaker 1] (1:00:01 - 1:00:01) Okay, [Speaker 4] (1:00:01 - 1:00:01) have it [Speaker 1] (1:00:01 - 1:00:02) so it is posted. [Speaker 4] (1:00:02 - 1:00:03) is posted [Speaker 1] (1:00:03 - 1:00:03) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:00:03 - 1:00:04) and we haven't had one respond. [Speaker 1] (1:00:05 - 1:00:05) Not one. [Speaker 6] (1:00:06 - 1:00:08) Is that where's the salary posted? [Speaker 6] (1:00:08 - 1:00:09) Do you know what do you know what the range [Speaker 4] (1:00:09 - 1:00:09) I [Speaker 6] (1:00:09 - 1:00:09) is? [Speaker 4] (1:00:09 - 1:00:11) think she posted it almost A_M_M_A_ [Speaker 1] (1:00:11 - 1:00:12) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 4] (1:00:12 - 1:00:14) and all around. I think she went above and beyond. [Speaker 7] (1:00:15 - 1:00:16) No, he said what it's a salaries. [Speaker 5] (1:00:16 - 1:00:16) What is this? [Speaker 4] (1:00:16 - 1:00:16) Oh, [Speaker 5] (1:00:16 - 1:00:17) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:00:17 - 1:00:17) eighty thousand. [Speaker 6] (1:00:17 - 1:00:18) Eighty. [Speaker 6] (1:00:18 - 1:00:18) 80. [Speaker 1] (1:00:18 - 1:00:20) That's the line item in the budget. [Speaker 1] (1:00:21 - 1:00:22) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:00:24 - 1:00:26) Yep. That's obviously why we're not getting anybody. [Speaker 6] (1:00:26 - 1:00:27) Got it. [Speaker 6] (1:00:27 - 1:00:28) Okay. [Speaker 7] (1:00:28 - 1:00:36) Could we just get a listing from you or Mary-Anne about all the vacant positions for Town Hall? [Speaker 4] (1:00:36 - 1:00:37) Yep. [Speaker 7] (1:00:37 - 1:00:41) I think this is almost all of it, but there might be one or two lingering positions. [Speaker 1] (1:00:41 - 1:00:43) Right, because I didn't know about that assessor being posted, [Speaker 1] (1:00:43 - 1:00:44) so that would be good to know. [Speaker 4] (1:00:44 - 1:00:45) Well, we had talked about it. [Speaker 1] (1:00:45 - 1:00:46) Right, yeah, I [Speaker 7] (1:00:46 - 1:00:46) just Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:00:46 - 1:00:47) didn't realize we had actually [Speaker 7] (1:00:47 - 1:00:47) So [Speaker 1] (1:00:47 - 1:00:48) done [Speaker 7] (1:00:48 - 1:00:48) if we it could just [Speaker 1] (1:00:48 - 1:00:48) this [Speaker 7] (1:00:48 - 1:00:48) say [Speaker 1] (1:00:48 - 1:00:48) quick. [Speaker 7] (1:00:48 - 1:00:52) what's open when it was posted and then sort of what [Speaker 6] (1:00:52 - 1:00:54) But the result, what the status [Speaker 7] (1:00:54 - 1:00:54) the, [Speaker 6] (1:00:54 - 1:00:54) results [Speaker 7] (1:00:54 - 1:00:55) yeah, [Speaker 6] (1:00:55 - 1:00:55) were. [Speaker 7] (1:00:55 - 1:00:56) just a quick summary. [Speaker 7] (1:00:56 - 1:00:57) Quick status update. [Speaker 4] (1:00:57 - 1:00:57) Okay. [Speaker 7] (1:00:57 - 1:00:58) There's a quick little. [Speaker 4] (1:00:58 - 1:01:06) And then we're gonna have one more vacancy in the building department coming up again in the next week when Diane Fallon retires. [Speaker 1] (1:01:07 - 1:01:08) Oh wow, she's retiring. [Speaker 4] (1:01:08 - 1:01:08) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (1:01:08 - 1:01:08) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:01:08 - 1:01:10) she's retiring tomorrow, [Speaker 4] (1:01:10 - 1:01:11) so last day. [Speaker 1] (1:01:11 - 1:01:12) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:01:12 - 1:01:15) And before you fill that are you looking at efficiencies? [Speaker 4] (1:01:15 - 1:01:16) We are. [Speaker 4] (1:01:16 - 1:01:20) Obviously we're gonna have to work with the union because that's a union position, but yes. [Speaker 1] (1:01:24 - 1:01:40) And also, um under public works there's, you know, I know you guys are doing a ton with the crosswalks and athletic fields. Um what is the sit what is the situation with the with the athletic field at Blocksidge with the turf? [Speaker 4] (1:01:40 - 1:01:40) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:01:40 - 1:01:45) Is there someone is there s there's something wrong with it or there's something that needs to be repaired? Am I [Speaker 4] (1:01:45 - 1:01:45) Yeah, so the [Speaker 1] (1:01:45 - 1:01:45) correct [Speaker 4] (1:01:45 - 1:01:45) turf, [Speaker 1] (1:01:45 - 1:01:46) in that? [Speaker 4] (1:01:46 - 1:01:51) we've gotten so we hired a company to come in and they'll be in this Friday to repair all the seems that were not [Speaker 1] (1:01:52 - 1:01:52) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (1:01:52 - 1:01:53) It had been torn up. [Speaker 1] (1:01:53 - 1:01:53) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:01:53 - 1:01:54) It's a little bit more than that. [Speaker 1] (1:01:54 - 1:01:54) Right. [Speaker 4] (1:01:54 - 1:01:57) They're going to add some more coconut husks to it. [Speaker 1] (1:01:57 - 1:01:57) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:01:57 - 1:01:58) They're going to do the compaction test. [Speaker 4] (1:02:00 - 1:02:04) But that's getting taken care of. Ideally, it would have been taken care of last week, but Friday's [Speaker 1] (1:02:04 - 1:02:04) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:02:05 - 1:02:05) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (1:02:06 - 1:02:06) the day. [Speaker 1] (1:02:07 - 1:02:07) Excellent. [Speaker 1] (1:02:08 - 1:02:10) I think that's all I have. Thank you. [Speaker 7] (1:02:11 - 1:02:12) Anybody else? [Speaker 7] (1:02:14 - 1:02:14) Great. [Speaker 7] (1:02:15 - 1:02:16) Moving on. Thank you, Gina. [Speaker 4] (1:02:17 - 1:02:17) You're welcome. [Speaker 7] (1:02:18 - 1:02:18) Public comments. [Speaker 7] (1:02:19 - 1:02:21) Public is welcome to comment. [Speaker 7] (1:02:21 - 1:02:27) We will please come up, state your name and your address and public comment will be limited to three minutes tonight. [Speaker 7] (1:02:33 - 1:02:35) Oh, Rachel Tardash online please. [Speaker 7] (1:02:43 - 1:02:44) Go ahead Rachel. [Speaker 8] (1:02:46 - 1:02:46) typing. [Speaker 8] (1:02:46 - 1:02:49) Rachel Tardash, 71 Middlesex Ave. [Speaker 8] (1:02:49 - 1:02:50) Two things. One, [Speaker 8] (1:02:50 - 1:02:53) as my Big Blue Bargains board member hat, [Speaker 8] (1:02:53 - 1:02:58) we thank you to everyone who came to the concert last Wednesday. [Speaker 8] (1:02:58 - 1:03:00) We had a great time, a great turnout. [Speaker 8] (1:03:00 - 1:03:05) We were collecting underwear and are continuing to do so in the store for the month of September. [Speaker 8] (1:03:06 - 1:03:08) So new in-package unused underwear, [Speaker 8] (1:03:08 - 1:03:13) size 40 to adult that it's going to be distributed to the school nurse office. [Speaker 8] (1:03:12 - 1:03:13) first offices. [Speaker 8] (1:03:14 - 1:03:16) And then as my private citizen hat, [Speaker 8] (1:03:16 - 1:03:19) I just want to thank Gino and everyone at the DPW. [Speaker 8] (1:03:20 - 1:03:28) I sent an email on, I think, Thursday and on Tuesday the crosswalks on Middlesex were painted back where they've been paved over. [Speaker 8] (1:03:29 - 1:03:30) So thank you. [Speaker 8] (1:03:30 - 1:03:38) And my other thing I was going to talk about, I actually caught my neighbor tonight. We had discussed folks driving down Legere Way, [Speaker 8] (1:03:39 - 1:03:42) which is listed sometimes on GPS as a real street. And so we were [Speaker 8] (1:03:42 - 1:03:44) We were together and saw somebody drive through, [Speaker 8] (1:03:44 - 1:03:51) she actually grabbed the DPW crew that was doing the paving and mentioned it to them and they've already put the chain back up with the padlocks. [Speaker 8] (1:03:52 - 1:03:56) So thank you for fixing a problem before I could even tell you about it. [Speaker 8] (1:03:56 - 1:03:59) I really appreciate how quickly all of that was done. [Speaker 8] (1:03:59 - 1:04:00) So thanks. [Speaker 7] (1:04:01 - 1:04:04) Thank you Rachel and thank you DPW [Speaker 7] (1:04:06 - 1:04:07) Okay, [Speaker 7] (1:04:07 - 1:04:09) seeing no additional public comment, [Speaker 7] (1:04:09 - 1:04:11) we will move on to new and old business. [Speaker 7] (1:04:12 - 1:04:15) First item is being tabled, discussion, [Speaker 7] (1:04:15 - 1:04:17) possible vote and appointment of the new TA. [Speaker 7] (1:04:17 - 1:04:21) We are still ongoing negotiations, so we are tabling that. [Speaker 7] (1:04:22 - 1:04:25) We are moving on to the second item, [Speaker 7] (1:04:25 - 1:04:26) the second reading, [Speaker 7] (1:04:26 - 1:04:29) discussion and possible vote on the social equity policy. [Speaker 7] (1:04:29 - 1:04:32) This is actually probably the third reading. [Speaker 7] (1:04:32 - 1:04:34) Of the social equity policy, [Speaker 7] (1:04:34 - 1:04:41) and we appreciate everybody for coming back with us a third time to have this conversation. But Marcy is here, [Speaker 7] (1:04:41 - 1:04:44) so we promise it will go more smoothly than last time. [Speaker 9] (1:04:46 - 1:04:48) I'm glad to hear it. Happy to help. [Speaker 9] (1:04:48 - 1:04:51) So as you, I'm not sure where you would like to start. [Speaker 9] (1:04:52 - 1:05:12) I mean, unfortunately I missed the last meeting. I apologise for that. Uh but um you should have in your package the um copy of the social equity plan and host community agreement policy. That is something that it's required by the uh Cannabis Control Commission. And you should see uh there are comments from KP Law. [Speaker 9] (1:05:12 - 1:05:14) Uh KP Law and Nicole [Speaker 9] (1:05:14 - 1:05:27) Um um because STANZA has reviewed uh the policy and provided its guidance uh for the policy. It's based on model policies throughout uh the Commonwealth that the uh CCC has approved. [Speaker 9] (1:05:28 - 1:05:57) It includes scoring criteria and then just comment. The only, I'm not sure if you'd wanted to go through each of the the definitions or address the comments or one thing that I think that there was a discussion about was waving of the or reducing the fees for equity parties which is number five on page number three and that is something that KP Lara and I think that a proposal [Speaker 9] (1:05:57 - 1:06:02) proponents agreed to waive or removed as part of this policy and [Speaker 6] (1:06:02 - 1:06:03) Keep you all in the room. [Speaker 9] (1:06:03 - 1:06:07) our equity partners or the existing retailers [Speaker 7] (1:06:09 - 1:06:20) Okay, so as we said last time, some of these require us to make some decisions, right? Like KP put in some standard language, so we just have to either say we agree it's this person or this amount or whatever. [Speaker 7] (1:06:21 - 1:06:24) So maybe it makes sense to sort of just. [Speaker 7] (1:06:26 - 1:06:33) either go through each line by line or just say whether or not most folks agree with the standards that they have put before us. [Speaker 7] (1:06:35 - 1:06:46) The comment related to consider waiving or reducing fees for equity parties but not limited to applications fees and community impact fees, [Speaker 7] (1:06:46 - 1:06:50) instead of consider it, we could say we waive the fee, [Speaker 7] (1:06:50 - 1:06:50) correct? [Speaker 1] (1:06:51 - 1:06:51) Are [Speaker 9] (1:06:51 - 1:06:51) That's [Speaker 7] (1:06:51 - 1:06:52) so [Speaker 9] (1:06:52 - 1:06:52) correct, yes. [Speaker 7] (1:06:52 - 1:07:01) we could just affirmatively say based on not just we will consider waiving or reducing but that we actually do waive the fee or we reduce it [Speaker 7] (1:07:02 - 1:07:03) by a certain or [Speaker 6] (1:07:03 - 1:07:04) What what is the fee no, [Speaker 9] (1:07:04 - 1:07:07) Or you can, you, well, you would vote on the fee. [Speaker 7] (1:07:07 - 1:07:08) you vote on the fee. [Speaker 9] (1:07:08 - 1:07:10) You would vote on what the fee is. Or you could just strike the entire, [Speaker 6] (1:07:10 - 1:07:11) But I mean [Speaker 9] (1:07:11 - 1:07:11) the [Speaker 6] (1:07:11 - 1:07:11) we're yeah, [Speaker 9] (1:07:11 - 1:07:11) entire sentence. [Speaker 6] (1:07:11 - 1:07:14) it's a, I thought we had talked last time about striking the [Speaker 7] (1:07:14 - 1:07:14) We [Speaker 6] (1:07:14 - 1:07:14) entirety [Speaker 7] (1:07:14 - 1:07:14) did. [Speaker 6] (1:07:14 - 1:07:15) of five. [Speaker 7] (1:07:15 - 1:07:17) We did, but we didn't vote on anything. [Speaker 6] (1:07:17 - 1:07:17) No [Speaker 7] (1:07:17 - 1:07:17) So, [Speaker 6] (1:07:17 - 1:07:17) understood [Speaker 7] (1:07:17 - 1:07:26) yes. So we've discussed striking it in its or just simply stating that we would waive the fee. [Speaker 7] (1:07:26 - 1:07:30) So you wouldn't strike it, but you would just say we waive fees [Speaker 6] (1:07:30 - 1:07:31) Fees for equity parties. [Speaker 7] (1:07:31 - 1:07:34) for equity parties and then go from there. [Speaker 6] (1:07:35 - 1:07:35) I'm [Speaker 4] (1:07:35 - 1:07:35) So [Speaker 6] (1:07:35 - 1:07:35) sorry. [Speaker 9] (1:07:35 - 1:07:37) Sean will waive the fees. [Speaker 6] (1:07:39 - 1:07:43) Can you just, one more time, Marcy, can you explain it for me, [Speaker 6] (1:07:43 - 1:07:45) for us, for the public? [Speaker 6] (1:07:46 - 1:07:49) This is kind of a, there's a give and take here, [Speaker 6] (1:07:49 - 1:07:49) right? [Speaker 4] (1:07:51 - 1:07:59) What do we get already from a social equity partner and why would we waive this? What are the, you know, what are the burdens we have? [Speaker 4] (1:07:59 - 1:08:00) We could say we're going to have a fee, [Speaker 4] (1:08:00 - 1:08:02) but then we have to also justify the fee, [Speaker 9] (1:08:02 - 1:08:02) Exactly. [Speaker 4] (1:08:02 - 1:08:03) right? [Speaker 9] (1:08:03 - 1:08:04) So the issue of fees. [Speaker 9] (1:08:04 - 1:08:17) So right now the benefit of hosting a social equity company or retailer is that in addition to receiving the 3% of gross revenues from the applicant. So as you know, [Speaker 9] (1:08:18 - 1:08:31) We received the funding through the department of revenue. So what happens is the the retailer pays their fees to the state, the state then sends a lump sum funding to the to the town. [Speaker 9] (1:08:31 - 1:08:38) As a uh social equity uh entity, a marijuana operator or or cannabis uh retailer, [Speaker 9] (1:08:38 - 1:08:43) we are eligible or we are entitled to one percent of additional revenues. [Speaker 9] (1:08:44 - 1:08:47) So by hosting a social equity company within the town, [Speaker 9] (1:08:47 - 1:08:54) we in turn receive a total of four percent of revenue from the proceeds from the sale. [Speaker 9] (1:08:54 - 1:09:03) So that's the benefit of hosting or having a social equity retailer in the town. In regards to the fees, [Speaker 9] (1:09:03 - 1:09:04) so [Speaker 9] (1:09:05 - 1:09:13) You know, the challenge of municipalities can charge an application fee when entities apply to for a license similar to any other licenses. [Speaker 9] (1:09:14 - 1:09:26) And so this policy will be on our website. And that's something that we are required to have that, let's say, there's somebody who is interesting in opening up a facility in Swampscott. As you know, [Speaker 9] (1:09:26 - 1:09:29) we are limited or child meeting voted to limit the number. [Speaker 1] (1:09:32 - 1:09:39) but the regulations from the state on that we should still have a policy in place in a very visible location. [Speaker 1] (1:09:40 - 1:09:50) Our goal is once you vote on this policy we'll have it available on our website and it's clear in regards to what the process is, what the scoring criteria is. [Speaker 1] (1:09:51 - 1:09:53) s and we'll just have a basic application that will be attached to it. [Speaker 3] (1:09:55 - 1:10:04) So let's to incentivize them being social equity partners with us because in we give up the fees but we get back that one percent which could monetarily [Speaker 3] (1:10:05 - 1:10:06) Outweigh the fees. [Speaker 1] (1:10:06 - 1:10:17) Absolutely. And just that you would understand the scope, what the 1% represents, the other day I met with two operators or owners of Chirping Journey, [Speaker 1] (1:10:17 - 1:10:23) and I was just curious because I thought you would also want to know in terms of what does 1% mean in fees, right, [Speaker 1] (1:10:23 - 1:10:24) to what we receive, [Speaker 1] (1:10:24 - 1:10:26) and that would equal for this year alone, [Speaker 1] (1:10:26 - 1:10:28) and please correct me if I'm wrong, [Speaker 1] (1:10:28 - 1:10:30) that would translate to close to $100,000. [Speaker 1] (1:10:30 - 1:10:31) percent. [Speaker 1] (1:10:32 - 1:10:35) Additional, in addition to that, to the three percent that we receive. [Speaker 3] (1:10:38 - 1:10:39) Thank you. [Speaker 4] (1:10:40 - 1:10:41) It's not business. [Speaker 3] (1:10:41 - 1:10:42) Yep. [Speaker 3] (1:10:42 - 1:10:43) Okay, [Speaker 3] (1:10:43 - 1:10:49) so I think it sounds like we're all aligned with waiving the fees for equity partners. [Speaker 3] (1:10:49 - 1:10:52) So then the next section would be the way that KPLA wrote this, [Speaker 3] (1:10:52 - 1:10:56) the town administrator has certain discretions and then in order to score out. [Speaker 3] (1:10:57 - 1:10:59) The applications and then the select board, [Speaker 3] (1:10:59 - 1:11:07) I'm sorry, to administer the sort of admin piece of the applications and then the select board scores them out. [Speaker 3] (1:11:08 - 1:11:18) The town administrator will invite applicants who score 60% or higher to come before the select board as for host community agreements. [Speaker 3] (1:11:18 - 1:11:23) So each of those are like standard language that KP put in relative to [Speaker 3] (1:11:23 - 1:11:46) you the other social equity agreements that it's drafted so if anybody has an issue with that or wants to see a certain you know they want to see only 70 you know people who score 70 or higher whatever I think given the topic and I think KP probably has much greater insight into this then [Speaker 3] (1:11:47 - 1:12:01) I do, uh so I would prefer to the standards that they've put forward um and rely on them that it's similar to other communities as standards. But does anybody have feedback about those paragraphs? [Speaker 3] (1:12:03 - 1:12:04) Okay, so [Speaker 5] (1:12:04 - 1:12:06) The only question I had from last time was, [Speaker 5] (1:12:06 - 1:12:08) just to say publicly, [Speaker 5] (1:12:09 - 1:12:13) the what we've proposed here from KP law [Speaker 5] (1:12:14 - 1:12:17) Turbine has seen everyone's in agreement. [Speaker 3] (1:12:18 - 1:12:19) We have the right version now. [Speaker 1] (1:12:20 - 1:12:20) Yes. [Speaker 6] (1:12:20 - 1:12:20) Yes. [Speaker 1] (1:12:20 - 1:12:20) Yep. [Speaker 6] (1:12:20 - 1:12:21) We confirmed that. [Speaker 3] (1:12:21 - 1:12:25) We have confirmed we have the right version and we reviewed the right version and we're good, yes. [Speaker 1] (1:12:25 - 1:12:37) Just the only sort of added that you would know is under schedule B, just a change that says town manager, it should really spell town administrator, so just a a typo, but, you know, so they will update that, [Speaker 3] (1:12:37 - 1:12:37) Yep, [Speaker 1] (1:12:37 - 1:12:37) so. [Speaker 3] (1:12:37 - 1:12:38) it's on schedule B. [Speaker 3] (1:12:43 - 1:12:44) Marilyn did you have something [Speaker 1] (1:12:45 - 1:12:46) No, I was good with everything. [Speaker 1] (1:12:48 - 1:12:51) I just wanted to get this done and not see [Speaker 3] (1:12:51 - 1:12:51) so [Speaker 1] (1:12:51 - 1:12:51) it again. [Speaker 3] (1:12:51 - 1:13:07) then I guess the other we would strike the um on schedule a we would strike the section that which says included with the application fee is a dollar amount because we're waiving the fee um so we're going to strike that section um [Speaker 3] (1:13:09 - 1:13:15) And the applications would go to the attention of the town administrator in conforming with the edits on under procedure. [Speaker 3] (1:13:16 - 1:13:16) Uh [Speaker 1] (1:13:16 - 1:13:16) Thank you. [Speaker 3] (1:13:16 - 1:13:17) you're welcome. [Speaker 1] (1:13:19 - 1:13:19) Okay. [Speaker 7] (1:13:19 - 1:13:22) So, so motion to approve the social equity plan? [Speaker 1] (1:13:23 - 1:13:23) Second. [Speaker 3] (1:13:24 - 1:13:26) All those in favour? [Speaker 1] (1:13:26 - 1:13:26) Aye. [Speaker 8] (1:13:26 - 1:13:26) Aye. [Speaker 7] (1:13:26 - 1:13:26) Aye. [Speaker 5] (1:13:26 - 1:13:27) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:13:27 - 1:13:29) May I also request that um [Speaker 1] (1:13:31 - 1:13:41) This one, I don't, I'm trying to think. We don't, we don't have your signatures, right? Uh it's it's the other policies. I was just gonna find out if we can do electronic signatures. But not on this one we'll talk about it [Speaker 3] (1:13:41 - 1:13:42) For the host community agreement, [Speaker 1] (1:13:42 - 1:13:42) Yes. [Speaker 3] (1:13:42 - 1:13:48) for that, yes, we will take that into consideration. So I just wanna confirm the motion is as we just with amended as [Speaker 7] (1:13:48 - 1:13:48) Yep, [Speaker 3] (1:13:48 - 1:13:49) just discussed. [Speaker 7] (1:13:49 - 1:13:49) correct. [Speaker 3] (1:13:49 - 1:13:50) Wonderful. [Speaker 3] (1:13:51 - 1:13:58) Okay, so that's off the list. Thank you so much and we are moving on to the second reading, [Speaker 3] (1:13:58 - 1:14:03) although I really think it's the third reason reading and discussion and possible vote on the updated host community agreements, [Speaker 3] (1:14:04 - 1:14:06) the terpene journey and Calyx Peak. [Speaker 3] (1:14:07 - 1:14:11) And we have some of our lovely retailers here. [Speaker 3] (1:14:11 - 1:14:13) Thanks for coming back. Appreciate you guys. [Speaker 3] (1:14:16 - 1:14:29) and part of the conversation that we had left off on was just whether or not there were oh peter diagostino is here too he's raised his hand so if we can make him available to speak he is counsel i believe for calic speak [Speaker 1] (1:14:30 - 1:14:32) Yep, he's their um consultant. [Speaker 3] (1:14:32 - 1:14:39) consultant sorry um so um will [Speaker 3] (1:14:40 - 1:14:45) Look at the host community agreement for Tryptophan first, because that's the first in our package. [Speaker 3] (1:14:45 - 1:14:50) Um, does any of the board members have any questions or concerns? [Speaker 5] (1:14:53 - 1:14:55) Um, same thing, [Speaker 7] (1:14:55 - 1:14:55) Okay. [Speaker 5] (1:14:55 - 1:14:56) right? They were all in [Speaker 1] (1:14:57 - 1:15:25) Yep, we we had a meeting um just the other day, we went over it. Um we do uh agree in principle for everything. Um there were just a couple of things that we wanted to bring up to your attention or maybe discuss. And then one of them is in regards to um on page on the second page, I apologise that it's not dated. So the first page uh we all agree on the comments to strike the um the language that's crossed in green, I hope we [Speaker 1] (1:15:25 - 1:15:28) I hope it appears green or blue in your document. [Speaker 3] (1:15:28 - 1:15:28) Yep. [Speaker 1] (1:15:28 - 1:15:33) The same thing on the second page or the following page. [Speaker 1] (1:15:33 - 1:15:43) We will add at the very top of page two, it starts with whereas and or about. The date included there would be August 1st, 2025. [Speaker 1] (1:15:43 - 1:15:49) That's when the notice came in from the CCC in regards to a need to comply with the regulations. [Speaker 1] (1:15:49 - 1:15:52) So the date would be added. [Speaker 1] (1:15:52 - 1:16:00) that all of the uh items that you see striked or crossed out, uh we both agree with the parties, everything that was listed in there. [Speaker 1] (1:16:01 - 1:16:02) Um [Speaker 1] (1:16:03 - 1:16:08) The question that we have is in regards to page number three would be, [Speaker 1] (1:16:08 - 1:16:18) it starts with whereas the town anticipates that it will continue to incur additional expenses and impacts on the town road and other infrastructure system, [Speaker 1] (1:16:18 - 1:16:22) law enforcement for fire protection services, [Speaker 1] (1:16:23 - 1:16:24) inspectional services, [Speaker 1] (1:16:24 - 1:16:32) permitting and consulting services and public health as well as unforeseen impact both quantifiable and unquantifiable. [Speaker 1] (1:16:32 - 1:16:57) 10.5 under town as a result of the facility, whereas the company desires to be responsible corporate citizen and contributing member of the business community of the town and require the town impacts associated with the with and related to the facility in accordance with Mass General Law chapter 94 G and we just wanted to to talk about this with you whether or not [Speaker 1] (1:16:57 - 1:17:09) Um this would impr uh im be included in terms of since the impact fees were waived do we wanna include this in here, is it necessary or do we strike and we move it? So I'd we'd like to have your comments on it. [Speaker 5] (1:17:09 - 1:17:10) And that was proposed by [Speaker 1] (1:17:12 - 1:17:12) um [Speaker 5] (1:17:12 - 1:17:12) KP [Speaker 1] (1:17:12 - 1:17:12) I [Speaker 5] (1:17:12 - 1:17:13) Law or by [Speaker 7] (1:17:14 - 1:17:14) I [Speaker 1] (1:17:14 - 1:17:17) I think that was that was proposed by KP Law, [Speaker 1] (1:17:17 - 1:17:17) but since [Speaker 5] (1:17:17 - 1:17:18) The [Speaker 1] (1:17:18 - 1:17:18) we [Speaker 5] (1:17:18 - 1:17:19) striking was proposed by them. [Speaker 1] (1:17:19 - 1:17:25) no, that KP Law stated that we should talk about it with you, whether or not that's something that we want to choose. [Speaker 3] (1:17:25 - 1:17:28) I think the retailers proposed to be stricken and [Speaker 5] (1:17:28 - 1:17:28) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (1:17:28 - 1:17:32) KP Law said in order to be comfortable doing that, we should talk to the board. [Speaker 7] (1:17:32 - 1:17:33) Got it. Well, [Speaker 3] (1:17:33 - 1:17:33) And [Speaker 7] (1:17:33 - 1:17:33) we just, [Speaker 3] (1:17:33 - 1:17:34) I believe [Speaker 7] (1:17:34 - 1:17:34) yeah. [Speaker 3] (1:17:34 - 1:17:35) Marzi, did you send an email about? [Speaker 3] (1:17:36 - 1:17:38) uh whether or not we've had impacts. [Speaker 1] (1:17:39 - 1:17:40) Yes, there were no [Speaker 3] (1:17:40 - 1:17:40) There [Speaker 1] (1:17:40 - 1:17:40) impacts. [Speaker 3] (1:17:40 - 1:17:40) was [Speaker 5] (1:17:40 - 1:17:40) No impacts. [Speaker 3] (1:17:40 - 1:17:40) right. [Speaker 1] (1:17:40 - 1:17:41) There were no [Speaker 3] (1:17:41 - 1:17:41) To [Speaker 1] (1:17:41 - 1:17:41) public [Speaker 3] (1:17:41 - 1:17:44) date we have no, we've checked with fire department, [Speaker 2] (1:17:44 - 1:17:44) police department, [Speaker 5] (1:17:44 - 1:17:45) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (1:17:45 - 1:17:46) um [Speaker 1] (1:17:46 - 1:17:47) There were no calls. [Speaker 1] (1:17:47 - 1:17:51) There were I think like one or two calls, I think, as to like alarms, [Speaker 1] (1:17:51 - 1:17:52) fire alarms, [Speaker 1] (1:17:52 - 1:17:55) but not in relation to the to the business operation. [Speaker 7] (1:17:55 - 1:18:00) And there's so there's been no calls in what, the four plus years? [Speaker 1] (1:18:00 - 1:18:01) That's correct. [Speaker 7] (1:18:01 - 1:18:03) So that chirpene's been opened and. [Speaker 7] (1:18:04 - 1:18:04) got [Speaker 9] (1:18:04 - 1:18:04) With [Speaker 7] (1:18:04 - 1:18:04) it. [Speaker 9] (1:18:04 - 1:18:05) terpene. [Speaker 3] (1:18:05 - 1:18:05) Yep. [Speaker 9] (1:18:06 - 1:18:07) Not the other one. [Speaker 7] (1:18:07 - 1:18:08) Got it, yeah, this is just [Speaker 9] (1:18:08 - 1:18:08) Only talking [Speaker 7] (1:18:08 - 1:18:08) for terpene, [Speaker 3] (1:18:08 - 1:18:08) We're only talking about [Speaker 7] (1:18:08 - 1:18:09) terpene [Speaker 3] (1:18:09 - 1:18:09) the [Speaker 9] (1:18:09 - 1:18:09) yeah. [Speaker 7] (1:18:09 - 1:18:09) terpene only. [Speaker 3] (1:18:09 - 1:18:10) yep. [Speaker 7] (1:18:10 - 1:18:10) Got [Speaker 3] (1:18:10 - 1:18:10) Okay. [Speaker 7] (1:18:10 - 1:18:12) it. But if we struck it previously, [Speaker 7] (1:18:13 - 1:18:16) by w I I my opinion is we should strike it from not from the HCI. [Speaker 3] (1:18:17 - 1:18:20) Yeah, I think if we have no basis for it, [Speaker 3] (1:18:20 - 1:18:21) and we're not charging the fee anyways, then [Speaker 1] (1:18:21 - 1:18:21) Bless you. [Speaker 3] (1:18:21 - 1:18:23) I feel comfortable striking it. [Speaker 7] (1:18:23 - 1:18:23) Yep. [Speaker 3] (1:18:27 - 1:18:28) If it turns out [Speaker 3] (1:18:29 - 1:18:41) It is an issue in future host community agreements. We could put it back in. I don't perceive it will be, but if it if it is, then this is an agreement for forever and we just added back in it because it's come up as an issue. [Speaker 1] (1:18:41 - 1:18:42) Exactly. [Speaker 1] (1:18:42 - 1:18:56) Yep. And then um something that's included on page four, so it would be um at the top of the page it starts with Cannabis Social Equity uh tax revenue. Um you see that should be that's crossed out as strike per [Speaker 1] (1:18:56 - 1:18:57) KP Law, [Speaker 1] (1:18:57 - 1:19:13) we had a discussion with the operators and that was something that the owner said requested that is there an opportunity to show the additional 1% in revenue on our as part of a budget or as a revenue coming into the town. [Speaker 1] (1:19:13 - 1:19:22) It's really for us, it's really difficult. My sort of conversation has been that I'm not sure, I don't think that that's an option that we could do. [Speaker 1] (1:19:22 - 1:19:24) because the DOR right now does not separate [Speaker 1] (1:19:35 - 1:19:44) I know we talk about it but we don't have it so I just wanted to point it to bring it to your attention and whether or not this is something that you wanted to discuss or just continue to have it crossed out. [Speaker 3] (1:19:44 - 1:19:47) I just have a question to the retailer about that. Is that because you want us [Speaker 3] (1:19:47 - 1:19:48) to highlight how [Speaker 4] (1:19:48 - 1:19:49) I was just [Speaker 3] (1:19:49 - 1:19:53) your social equity impact is coming to our table and helping us. [Speaker 4] (1:19:53 - 1:19:54) Yeah, and we had actually, [Speaker 4] (1:19:54 - 1:19:58) following up with Marcy, we're actually okay either way if it's included or not. [Speaker 4] (1:19:58 - 1:20:06) The important thing for us is that the town's actually getting the money and it seems like Patrick's been working with DOTR to make sure that's happening. [Speaker 4] (1:20:06 - 1:20:08) So we're kind of okay if it's not included at this [Speaker 3] (1:20:08 - 1:20:08) That's [Speaker 4] (1:20:08 - 1:20:08) point. [Speaker 3] (1:20:08 - 1:20:09) important to us too. [Speaker 3] (1:20:11 - 1:20:12) Appreciate that. [Speaker 3] (1:20:12 - 1:20:12) Yes. [Speaker 3] (1:20:13 - 1:20:13) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:20:14 - 1:20:15) Very good. [Speaker 3] (1:20:15 - 1:20:16) As far as anything else? [Speaker 1] (1:20:16 - 1:20:20) Just the other item that I have would be number, [Speaker 1] (1:20:21 - 1:20:25) new number nine or number ten crossed out the following page, [Speaker 3] (1:20:25 - 1:20:25) Term. [Speaker 1] (1:20:25 - 1:20:27) the term of the agreement. [Speaker 1] (1:20:27 - 1:20:34) We listed in here a ten-year term, but I think that the maximum amount that we can have is eight years now, [Speaker 1] (1:20:34 - 1:20:40) so I would want to just make sure to change that because that's the new regulation and obviously the operators are. [Speaker 1] (1:20:40 - 1:20:45) I find with it because that's the max that we can have, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention and include that. [Speaker 3] (1:20:46 - 1:20:50) Okay, so you're changing that to eight per requirement. [Speaker 1] (1:20:50 - 1:20:53) Yeah, ten f ten change ten to um to eight years. [Speaker 4] (1:20:54 - 1:20:54) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:20:54 - 1:20:55) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:20:55 - 1:20:59) Um in regards to and just of the fin the final [Speaker 5] (1:21:07 - 1:21:16) And then Marzi, we're m we're making sure that we're that this is referencing the correct sections, like we met um on the next page. It it just talks about [Speaker 1] (1:21:17 - 1:21:17) Yep. [Speaker 5] (1:21:17 - 1:21:26) in the event of termination of disagreement, the company shall immediately cease all operations, provided that the company shall be responsible for payments due under sections three dash five of the agreement. [Speaker 5] (1:21:26 - 1:21:28) We just wanna make sure that that's that's [Speaker 1] (1:21:28 - 1:21:28) Yeah, it's [Speaker 5] (1:21:28 - 1:21:28) referenced properly. [Speaker 1] (1:21:28 - 1:21:31) three four, it should be listed under three four, because [Speaker 5] (1:21:31 - 1:21:31) Three [Speaker 1] (1:21:31 - 1:21:31) we do [Speaker 5] (1:21:31 - 1:21:31) four, [Speaker 1] (1:21:31 - 1:21:31) reference, [Speaker 5] (1:21:31 - 1:21:32) okay. [Speaker 1] (1:21:32 - 1:21:33) because we remove the other one, yes. [Speaker 1] (1:21:34 - 1:21:36) Yep. So that's that's another one. You're correct. [Speaker 1] (1:21:38 - 1:21:38) Um [Speaker 3] (1:21:38 - 1:21:42) I think um one of the other things that had come up is um [Speaker 3] (1:21:44 - 1:21:45) uh reference to a parking plan? [Speaker 1] (1:21:46 - 1:21:46) Yes, and we [Speaker 3] (1:21:46 - 1:21:47) Not [Speaker 1] (1:21:47 - 1:21:47) have [Speaker 3] (1:21:47 - 1:21:47) there [Speaker 1] (1:21:47 - 1:21:47) um [Speaker 3] (1:21:47 - 1:21:48) were you have one now? [Speaker 1] (1:21:48 - 1:21:54) Yep, we have a we have a we have a which will attach uh a pr a parking plan and I hope that Diane followed it to you. The parking plan yep [Speaker 3] (1:21:54 - 1:21:55) Oh thanks. [Speaker 1] (1:21:55 - 1:22:00) and a as well as um engineering specification for all electrical control and HVAC systems. [Speaker 1] (1:22:00 - 1:22:02) So you should have it, and that was submitted as [Speaker 3] (1:22:02 - 1:22:02) Oh, [Speaker 1] (1:22:02 - 1:22:02) part [Speaker 3] (1:22:02 - 1:22:03) it wasn't [Speaker 1] (1:22:03 - 1:22:03) of [Speaker 3] (1:22:03 - 1:22:03) in our prior packet. [Speaker 1] (1:22:03 - 1:22:03) Yep. [Speaker 3] (1:22:03 - 1:22:04) Got it. [Speaker 1] (1:22:04 - 1:22:04) And that was [Speaker 3] (1:22:04 - 1:22:04) Now we have it. [Speaker 3] (1:22:04 - 1:22:05) Perfect. [Speaker 1] (1:22:05 - 1:22:05) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:22:05 - 1:22:10) And then there's, we should just say attention town administrator on the notice provision. [Speaker 1] (1:22:10 - 1:22:11) Yep, absolutely. [Speaker 1] (1:22:12 - 1:22:35) Um the next one in terms of inspections there was just a um a comment that was added uh by attorney for terpene and uh just something that is probably best practices and it addresses CCC's concerns for unauthorised individuals entering uh a space that's not public space or um within the operation so that's just a standard language. [Speaker 6] (1:22:44 - 1:22:44) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:22:45 - 1:22:59) Um we have a copy of the plan. Oh, the other thing too that we wanted to update is the hours of operations, to be in line with both of the operators to have the same hours that the hours um of operations would be from eight a.m. to ten p.m. [Speaker 6] (1:23:00 - 1:23:04) Wait a second, just you're saying both operators meaning both stores? [Speaker 1] (1:23:05 - 1:23:05) Yes. [Speaker 6] (1:23:07 - 1:23:10) One is in a retail s retail location and one is in a neighbourhood. [Speaker 6] (1:23:11 - 1:23:14) In the one in the neighborhood opens up, but what nine right now? [Speaker 1] (1:23:15 - 1:23:37) Uh uh yes, so so they're open at nine, but so there's like a um an interesting concept that um the C_C_C_ is providing is that stating that they uh you should sort of be really specific in regards to the hours of operation. Although as you heard probably in the past that um chirpy journey is although the staff is there an hour before and I think that you had a [Speaker 1] (1:23:37 - 1:23:58) uh um uh sort of like like closing time like ten or fifteen minutes before, so then they can wrap up the operations. Uh I think that the new and current standard is to just list the hours regardless if it's, you know, staff are there um sort of organising or preparing for the sale, they just wanted to have the the hours listed as um standard hours. Okay. [Speaker 6] (1:23:58 - 1:24:02) But if you have standard hours listed and the staff is there getting ready but they're really not open [Speaker 6] (1:24:03 - 1:24:12) Now, aren't you introducing possible confusion to the consumer and aren't you introducing more people hanging out outside of a store? [Speaker 6] (1:24:13 - 1:24:13) S [Speaker 1] (1:24:13 - 1:24:22) So I think that that's maybe you could address it by, you know, just listing hours of operation on the on the door. I'm not sure that's how you addressed it in your hours. [Speaker 4] (1:24:22 - 1:24:28) Yeah, I think we just list our hours of operation to customers is like 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. And then I think. [Speaker 4] (1:24:28 - 1:24:36) The I think the reason why it's requested to be opening at eight, I think that was Pete and Calix Pete had requested that, um I think Right. it was to be crystal [Speaker 3] (1:24:36 - 1:24:37) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (1:24:37 - 1:24:45) clear that if there's a delivery that arrives at the facility before nine, that it can be accepted. Um I think was the reason why. [Speaker 1] (1:24:46 - 1:24:52) And then Pete, maybe if you can um if you could unmute and maybe just comment on the hours of operation. I know obviously it's not [Speaker 7] (1:24:52 - 1:24:52) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:24:52 - 1:24:53) yeah. [Speaker 8] (1:24:54 - 1:25:02) Yeah, thank you, Margie, Madam Chair, Members of the Board, thank you for working so diligently on this. We know it's been a couple of iterations. [Speaker 8] (1:25:03 - 1:25:05) We are agnostic as to the approach. [Speaker 8] (1:25:06 - 1:25:20) The approach that was proposed by KPI Law was to include hours of operation and the way it's defined in the agreement it would mean essentially any licensed activity. So we could amend the paragraph in its entirety. [Speaker 8] (1:25:21 - 1:25:46) to say retail hours meaning the hours were open to the public and then we could amend the hours to match you know the 9 a.m opening so we're agnostic candidly as to what the town and the board's preference is if we're going to call it hours of operation and the way it's written that encompasses everything we would potentially do then we would need to have employees in prior to the store actually opening so they can do inventory checks [Speaker 8] (1:25:47 - 1:26:11) receive deliveries so on and so forth so that's the approach the KP law offered which we're fine with or if the board would prefer to do it based on retail hours we would just have to amend the paragraph and amend the hours to match that and it's you know we're agreeable to either approach we just followed KP's lead so we're good either way if you want to do that it would just require unfortunately repainting that paragraph but we're happy to do it [Speaker 3] (1:26:11 - 1:26:17) Why don't we just leave the hours of operation but state the retail hours differ by whatever hour like [Speaker 5] (1:26:18 - 1:26:19) By an hour or [Speaker 3] (1:26:19 - 1:26:19) by [Speaker 5] (1:26:19 - 1:26:19) 30 minutes, [Speaker 3] (1:26:19 - 1:26:19) an hour. [Speaker 5] (1:26:19 - 1:26:20) yeah. yeah. [Speaker 3] (1:26:20 - 1:26:28) Just say like you can leave the hours of operation the way it is because that allows you to receive deliveries and what whatever you need to do during that time. [Speaker 3] (1:26:28 - 1:26:36) But then it says, you know, just add a sentence that says the retail hours uh for sale are nine to [Speaker 3] (1:26:37 - 1:26:37) Ten. [Speaker 3] (1:26:38 - 1:26:39) So you update [Speaker 6] (1:26:39 - 1:26:39) Is that [Speaker 3] (1:26:39 - 1:26:39) hours [Speaker 6] (1:26:39 - 1:26:39) what the [Speaker 3] (1:26:39 - 1:26:40) and minutes. [Speaker 6] (1:26:40 - 1:26:43) retail hours are for Califex, nine to ten? [Speaker 4] (1:26:44 - 1:26:45) I believe so, yes. [Speaker 1] (1:26:46 - 1:26:48) Calix, yes, that's nine to ten. You're [Speaker 4] (1:26:48 - 1:26:55) Yeah, I think it's nine to ten, um, like, Monday to Saturday, and then Sundays are eleven to six, open to customers. [Speaker 3] (1:26:56 - 1:26:57) That's for Calix. [Speaker 4] (1:26:57 - 1:26:57) For both of us. [Speaker 3] (1:26:57 - 1:26:59) Oh, for both of you, you're the same. [Speaker 4] (1:26:59 - 1:26:59) Yep. [Speaker 3] (1:26:59 - 1:26:59) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:27:00 - 1:27:09) So the eight you're just looking for that extra eight o'clock hour to cover your deliveries if they're before nine because you'd need the ability to operate to receive deliveries [Speaker 4] (1:27:10 - 1:27:10) Correct. [Speaker 3] (1:27:10 - 1:27:24) Okay, so I say leave it my suggestion would be to leave it as hours of operation make it 8 a.m. And then just state that they will only be open for retail from 9 to 10 which allows them that one hour to operate [Speaker 3] (1:27:25 - 1:27:26) and not south. [Speaker 3] (1:27:26 - 1:27:29) That's what KP law needs to feel comfortable. [Speaker 6] (1:27:33 - 1:27:33) Great. [Speaker 5] (1:27:34 - 1:27:34) I'm good with that. [Speaker 3] (1:27:35 - 1:27:36) All right. [Speaker 1] (1:27:39 - 1:27:42) And then I think all the other changes are both parties agreed upon. [Speaker 3] (1:27:44 - 1:27:44) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:27:46 - 1:27:50) So that works for do we want to approve the [Speaker 3] (1:27:51 - 1:27:52) I'll entertain a motion for this [Speaker 6] (1:27:52 - 1:27:52) Motion [Speaker 3] (1:27:52 - 1:27:52) one and [Speaker 6] (1:27:52 - 1:27:52) to [Speaker 3] (1:27:52 - 1:27:52) then we'll [Speaker 6] (1:27:52 - 1:27:52) approve. [Speaker 3] (1:27:52 - 1:27:53) move on to the next one. [Speaker 4] (1:27:53 - 1:27:56) Well, I think there wh add Marcy, I think there might be one more. Um [Speaker 6] (1:27:56 - 1:27:56) Oh, [Speaker 4] (1:27:56 - 1:27:59) I think. there was the uh [Speaker 4] (1:28:01 - 1:28:05) uh let's see, page one two three, the last paragraph. [Speaker 4] (1:28:05 - 1:28:11) Um we were proposing to get rid of point six, which is the very last sentence on the on the um [Speaker 4] (1:28:12 - 1:28:31) The page which reviews the company ceases uh if uh but basically if the company ceases operations um for a period greater than sixty days that that opens up um uh potential for the license to be removed uh or taken away. Um and we um we're hoping that that would be removed from the agreement. That's uh [Speaker 1] (1:28:34 - 1:28:37) Oh, I'm sorry, I missed it. Okay, so that was, uh, [Speaker 3] (1:28:37 - 1:28:37) So this is [Speaker 1] (1:28:37 - 1:28:37) that [Speaker 3] (1:28:37 - 1:28:37) in [Speaker 1] (1:28:37 - 1:28:38) was for [Speaker 4] (1:28:38 - 1:28:38) Where's that? [Speaker 1] (1:28:38 - 1:28:41) uh right above uh number nine. So sorry. [Speaker 3] (1:28:41 - 1:28:48) So under term the same section we were looking at, which is sub uh nine now was ten. At [Speaker 1] (1:28:48 - 1:28:48) Yes. [Speaker 3] (1:28:48 - 1:28:59) the bottom of that page it's uh it it it reflects removed in our version. Uh it says the company's uh the [Speaker 3] (1:28:58 - 1:29:10) The company's license is revoked or suspended by the CCC or as removed uh nine, the company ceases operation of the facility in the town for a period of greater than sixty days. So we do reflect the strike. [Speaker 4] (1:29:10 - 1:29:11) Okay, great. [Speaker 4] (1:29:14 - 1:29:15) Thank you. [Speaker 4] (1:29:15 - 1:29:16) I didn't hear. [Speaker 8] (1:29:16 - 1:29:19) Do you Madam Chair, it's Pete. Um, I [Speaker 1] (1:29:19 - 1:29:25) I'm just, I don't know if we're talking about two different paragraphs, so I'm just trying to keep up with the red lines. [Speaker 3] (1:29:26 - 1:29:27) Section nine [Speaker 1] (1:29:27 - 1:29:27) So are we in [Speaker 3] (1:29:27 - 1:29:27) labeled [Speaker 1] (1:29:27 - 1:29:28) the correct paragraph? [Speaker 3] (1:29:28 - 1:29:30) term we [Speaker 1] (1:29:30 - 1:29:31) Okay, [Speaker 1] (1:29:31 - 1:29:34) my section nine's labeled cease of operations, [Speaker 1] (1:29:34 - 1:29:35) succession of operations. [Speaker 1] (1:29:37 - 1:29:37) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:29:37 - 1:29:42) are we're in the terpene agreement we're not in the calyx agreement yet that's [Speaker 1] (1:29:42 - 1:29:42) Okay, [Speaker 1] (1:29:42 - 1:29:43) my apologies. [Speaker 3] (1:29:43 - 1:29:44) okay [Speaker 3] (1:29:44 - 1:29:45) All [Speaker 1] (1:29:45 - 1:29:45) Yeah, [Speaker 3] (1:29:45 - 1:29:45) right, so. [Speaker 1] (1:29:45 - 1:29:46) I just want the language, [Speaker 1] (1:29:46 - 1:29:51) I guess the succession operations language should mirror between the two entities. [Speaker 1] (1:29:51 - 1:30:01) I think the town generally should have one standard for how licenses are done in the town and I think our language might be slightly different. [Speaker 1] (1:30:01 - 1:30:11) So, you know, certainly defer to the board on that, but given that the businesses are the same and there's one, there should be one standard for how the licenses are treated, I would think. [Speaker 1] (1:30:11 - 1:30:13) Right off of that for the board to consider actually I [Speaker 4] (1:30:13 - 1:30:18) And then Pete, that also states 60 days. So I think you saw that, right, [Speaker 4] (1:30:18 - 1:30:20) the change? The 90 days [Speaker 1] (1:30:20 - 1:30:20) don't [Speaker 4] (1:30:20 - 1:30:20) for [Speaker 1] (1:30:20 - 1:30:20) know [Speaker 4] (1:30:20 - 1:30:20) this strike? [Speaker 1] (1:30:20 - 1:30:21) that but yeah [Speaker 4] (1:30:21 - 1:30:21) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:30:21 - 1:30:24) that's that's I don't have that change I [Speaker 4] (1:30:24 - 1:30:24) did Oh, [Speaker 1] (1:30:24 - 1:30:24) not receive [Speaker 4] (1:30:24 - 1:30:24) all right. [Speaker 1] (1:30:24 - 1:30:24) that [Speaker 4] (1:30:24 - 1:30:25) I'm sorry. [Speaker 1] (1:30:25 - 1:30:25) back that [Speaker 4] (1:30:25 - 1:30:25) Yes. [Speaker 1] (1:30:25 - 1:30:26) that's what I'm saying Yeah, [Speaker 4] (1:30:26 - 1:30:26) Yep. [Speaker 1] (1:30:26 - 1:30:26) that's [Speaker 4] (1:30:26 - 1:30:26) So that's [Speaker 1] (1:30:26 - 1:30:27) why [Speaker 4] (1:30:27 - 1:30:27) 60. [Speaker 1] (1:30:27 - 1:30:30) that's why I asked I did not see that I don't have that change back [Speaker 4] (1:30:30 - 1:30:30) Yep. [Speaker 4] (1:30:30 - 1:30:34) So we're at 60 days for Calix as well, local cannabis, [Speaker 4] (1:30:34 - 1:30:35) 60 days as well. [Speaker 3] (1:30:36 - 1:30:38) And so we struck that line from. [Speaker 3] (1:30:38 - 1:30:42) terpene. So it was at sixty, but then it has been stricken. [Speaker 3] (1:30:43 - 1:30:44) So so [Speaker 4] (1:30:44 - 1:30:47) s so we will strike it here as well then. [Speaker 3] (1:30:49 - 1:30:51) Yeah, so if we could just approve this first [Speaker 4] (1:30:51 - 1:30:51) Let's [Speaker 3] (1:30:51 - 1:30:52) and [Speaker 4] (1:30:52 - 1:30:52) go. [Speaker 3] (1:30:52 - 1:30:53) then move on to the next, then we can [Speaker 1] (1:30:53 - 1:30:53) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (1:30:53 - 1:30:54) make like the same changes, that would be great. [Speaker 5] (1:30:54 - 1:30:55) We have a motion. [Speaker 3] (1:30:55 - 1:30:56) So we have a motion by [Speaker 5] (1:30:56 - 1:30:56) House [Speaker 3] (1:30:56 - 1:30:56) David [Speaker 5] (1:30:56 - 1:30:57) of no motion [Speaker 3] (1:30:57 - 1:30:57) oh sorry, [Speaker 5] (1:30:57 - 1:30:57) by Danielle, [Speaker 3] (1:30:57 - 1:30:58) a motion by Danielle, [Speaker 5] (1:30:58 - 1:30:58) seconded by [Speaker 3] (1:30:58 - 1:30:58) seconded [Speaker 5] (1:30:58 - 1:30:58) Daniel. [Speaker 3] (1:30:58 - 1:31:03) by David. All those in favour of appr proves approving the terpene host community agreement? [Speaker 4] (1:31:03 - 1:31:03) Uh [Speaker 5] (1:31:03 - 1:31:03) I [Speaker 6] (1:31:03 - 1:31:03) Aye. [Speaker 4] (1:31:03 - 1:31:03) aye. [Speaker 3] (1:31:03 - 1:31:03) I. [Speaker 3] (1:31:04 - 1:31:07) Fantastic. Thank you guys very much for your patience in the process. [Speaker 7] (1:31:07 - 1:31:08) Thank you. [Speaker 3] (1:31:08 - 1:31:17) Okay, moving on to Kelleck's Peak. Um there has been some requests that we have some continuity. Um [Speaker 3] (1:31:23 - 1:31:24) So [Speaker 1] (1:31:24 - 1:31:26) Okay, so we go under this greeting, Madam Chair, [Speaker 1] (1:31:26 - 1:31:29) it's paragraph eight under this greeting. [Speaker 1] (1:31:29 - 1:31:31) On the last version I have it, I'll say. [Speaker 3] (1:31:31 - 1:31:33) Yeah, so um [Speaker 3] (1:31:37 - 1:31:38) Section 8, [Speaker 3] (1:31:38 - 1:31:41) the suspicion of operation. [Speaker 3] (1:31:42 - 1:31:51) In the event the company closes or ceases operation for an extended period of time not less than, it said 90, [Speaker 3] (1:31:51 - 1:31:53) and then it was struck and said 60. [Speaker 3] (1:31:58 - 1:32:08) I think the question is whether or not we strike that in totality or strike it to reflect the same benefit that we've given terpene journey. [Speaker 3] (1:32:09 - 1:32:10) So, [Speaker 4] (1:32:10 - 1:32:11) I think we should be consistent. [Speaker 3] (1:32:11 - 1:32:11) it [Speaker 3] (1:32:14 - 1:32:21) Um so I mean each individual deal obviously is negotiated separately, but they're on our agendas together and back to back. So [Speaker 4] (1:32:21 - 1:32:21) Right. [Speaker 3] (1:32:21 - 1:32:28) th I think the benefit is that we're doing this openly in public and it is what it is at this point. Uh [Speaker 8] (1:32:28 - 1:32:31) Right, is there any reason why there's any difference between [Speaker 3] (1:32:32 - 1:32:34) Well they didn't ask for it to be struck and these guys did. [Speaker 8] (1:32:36 - 1:32:37) Do they object to it being struck? [Speaker 3] (1:32:37 - 1:32:39) No they would now they would like it [Speaker 4] (1:32:39 - 1:32:40) to Now they won't instruct. [Speaker 3] (1:32:41 - 1:32:41) And we did it on the other [Speaker 1] (1:32:41 - 1:32:42) Yeah, [Speaker 3] (1:32:42 - 1:32:42) ones, too. [Speaker 1] (1:32:42 - 1:32:51) we had originally asked, Madam Chair, we'd originally asked for more time and I did not realize that that request for additional time had been struck and I did not get that red light back. [Speaker 1] (1:32:51 - 1:32:51) So I apologize. [Speaker 1] (1:32:51 - 1:32:55) I just I don't have that edit. So I didn't have the opportunity to respond to it. [Speaker 3] (1:32:55 - 1:32:55) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:32:55 - 1:32:56) So to your point, [Speaker 1] (1:32:57 - 1:33:00) I'm just responding to it now because I wasn't aware of that prior to just now. [Speaker 3] (1:33:01 - 1:33:06) And so I think what we should do is we should. [Speaker 3] (1:33:07 - 1:33:13) strike it, but KP needs to just make sure that it's consistent with its strike and [Speaker 4] (1:33:13 - 1:33:14) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:33:14 - 1:33:20) make sure that they reflect the same benefit given to terpene journey based on the edits so. [Speaker 3] (1:33:21 - 1:33:27) And then for section nine we should update that to eight years as you've just discussed on the other, [Speaker 3] (1:33:28 - 1:33:33) that's the term and as Marzi said. [Speaker 3] (1:33:35 - 1:33:37) We can only go up to eight years. [Speaker 3] (1:33:38 - 1:33:38) Um [Speaker 3] (1:33:40 - 1:33:49) For the hours about I'm sorry I'm going backwards now because we moved backwards. But if we go back to the beginning, it looks like uh [Speaker 8] (1:33:51 - 1:33:56) Pete, is there is there a reason why we're just not like everything that we just did on one we're doing on the other? [Speaker 3] (1:33:56 - 1:34:00) Sure. It's not the same agreement, that's why. Because the language is different. [Speaker 8] (1:34:00 - 1:34:01) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:34:01 - 1:34:01) Um but [Speaker 8] (1:34:01 - 1:34:01) That's a good [Speaker 3] (1:34:01 - 1:34:01) conceptually [Speaker 8] (1:34:01 - 1:34:02) reason. [Speaker 3] (1:34:02 - 1:34:14) yeah, yeah, we could. If they use the same form it would be great, 'cause you would just say, all the things we just did on the first form, we s gonna put in the second form. You could still do that, KP would have to take the first form and then make sure it's reflected. But [Speaker 3] (1:34:21 - 1:34:23) Is that the motion that you want to reflect, Peg? [Speaker 8] (1:34:23 - 1:34:26) Well you know I I obviously am missing the nuance here so [Speaker 8] (1:34:28 - 1:34:29) For two. [Speaker 3] (1:34:33 - 1:34:46) So I think in the hours of operation under Section I we need to make the same update so that the hours of operation are reflected, but the retail hours are only um nine to ten and then Marilyn, you brought up the um [Speaker 3] (1:34:48 - 1:34:51) The question in the comments is, is the town amenable to these hours? [Speaker 3] (1:34:53 - 1:34:58) They brought up the last comment um you had made about one being in a mall [Speaker 4] (1:34:58 - 1:34:58) One [Speaker 3] (1:34:58 - 1:34:58) area [Speaker 4] (1:34:58 - 1:34:58) near in [Speaker 3] (1:34:58 - 1:34:59) that [Speaker 4] (1:34:59 - 1:34:59) a mall, [Speaker 3] (1:34:59 - 1:34:59) does retail [Speaker 4] (1:34:59 - 1:34:59) the others, [Speaker 3] (1:34:59 - 1:35:00) and [Speaker 4] (1:35:00 - 1:35:00) yep, in [Speaker 3] (1:35:00 - 1:35:00) this [Speaker 4] (1:35:00 - 1:35:00) a [Speaker 3] (1:35:00 - 1:35:01) mall. one being in a neighbourhood. [Speaker 4] (1:35:01 - 1:35:02) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 3] (1:35:02 - 1:35:03) So are we comfortable with those hours? [Speaker 4] (1:35:04 - 1:35:04) Yes, [Speaker 8] (1:35:05 - 1:35:05) Yes. [Speaker 4] (1:35:05 - 1:35:06) I am. [Speaker 3] (1:35:06 - 1:35:06) Um [Speaker 4] (1:35:11 - 1:35:14) If Well, I'm just con you know my concern is it is a retail, [Speaker 4] (1:35:14 - 1:35:15) it is a [Speaker 4] (1:35:16 - 1:35:22) One's retail in a retail environment and the other is in a neighborhood environment. [Speaker 4] (1:35:22 - 1:35:26) We've got one we have no complaints whatsoever. [Speaker 4] (1:35:27 - 1:35:29) The other one we have multiple complaints [Speaker 4] (1:35:30 - 1:35:32) that have come in over [Speaker 4] (1:35:33 - 1:35:37) people parking, people sitting outside homes, [Speaker 4] (1:35:38 - 1:35:41) that type of thing. So I don't know, I don't have a um [Speaker 4] (1:35:42 - 1:35:51) I don't have a definite opinion on it, I just have a question on it whether or not because it's in a retail neighbourhood if we should be opening up earlier, if it would have an effect on the neighbours. [Speaker 3] (1:35:54 - 1:36:07) I would think if the hours of operation were greater then people would come over a longer span of time and therefore the parking wouldn't be an issue. Um but maybe we can just ask the business to be [Speaker 3] (1:36:07 - 1:36:14) more mindful of the parking situation. I know you guys do lease some parking spots from us that [Speaker 4] (1:36:14 - 1:36:15) So, I [Speaker 3] (1:36:15 - 1:36:15) are underutilized. [Speaker 4] (1:36:15 - 1:36:17) mean, if I could just maybe clarify, [Speaker 3] (1:36:17 - 1:36:17) Please. [Speaker 4] (1:36:17 - 1:36:22) I've had multiple conversation with Pete and with the management at local cannabis. [Speaker 4] (1:36:22 - 1:36:25) The parking issue is, it's not. [Speaker 4] (1:36:27 - 1:36:29) I don't want to call them like average customers, [Speaker 4] (1:36:29 - 1:36:33) it's individuals who utilise company trucks [Speaker 3] (1:36:33 - 1:36:33) Non [Speaker 4] (1:36:33 - 1:36:34) and [Speaker 3] (1:36:34 - 1:36:34) -personal vehicles. [Speaker 4] (1:36:34 - 1:36:36) non-personal vehicles who [Speaker 4] (1:36:37 - 1:36:45) you know shop at this at the store so what happens is that I imagine it's perception they don't want to drive you know if let's say if you [Speaker 9] (1:36:45 - 1:36:46) You're not [Speaker 3] (1:36:46 - 1:36:46) You're going to have [Speaker 4] (1:36:46 - 1:36:46) don't [Speaker 9] (1:36:46 - 1:36:46) to. [Speaker 3] (1:36:46 - 1:36:46) have the [Speaker 4] (1:36:46 - 1:36:47) a car [Speaker 3] (1:36:47 - 1:36:47) town of [Speaker 4] (1:36:47 - 1:36:47) I'm [Speaker 3] (1:36:47 - 1:36:47) Swampscott [Speaker 4] (1:36:47 - 1:36:47) not going to [Speaker 3] (1:36:47 - 1:36:47) electric [Speaker 4] (1:36:47 - 1:36:48) drive exactly [Speaker 3] (1:36:48 - 1:36:48) vehicle, [Speaker 3] (1:36:48 - 1:36:48) Maxie. [Speaker 4] (1:36:48 - 1:37:04) if it's parked there then it's really questionable or you know so I think that that's what the issue is you know we have been dealing with some you know individuals maybe smoking on the sidewalk on the curb cuts so that's something else that we've reached out through Pete to the manager [Speaker 4] (1:37:04 - 1:37:08) and they try to address it as the issues arise. [Speaker 10] (1:37:08 - 1:37:13) So we could always just amend it next year if there's multiple complaints. [Speaker 10] (1:37:14 - 1:37:21) So we're leaving ourselves open there that if it goes sideways, we can fix it. [Speaker 4] (1:37:21 - 1:37:21) Absolutely. [Speaker 3] (1:37:22 - 1:37:23) Yep, we can. [Speaker 3] (1:37:23 - 1:37:28) And we appreciate the effort in helping us with a problem you don't necessarily have a solution for either, [Speaker 3] (1:37:28 - 1:37:29) but we [Speaker 1] (1:37:29 - 1:37:30) Thank you, Madam Chair. [Speaker 3] (1:37:30 - 1:37:31) appreciate the diligence. [Speaker 3] (1:37:32 - 1:37:45) So I guess we will entertain a motion to approve Calix Peak host community agreement in line with the changes we've just made to terpene journey which KP Law will reflect. [Speaker 8] (1:37:45 - 1:37:45) So moved. [Speaker 3] (1:37:45 - 1:37:46) I love it. [Speaker 10] (1:37:46 - 1:37:46) Second. [Speaker 3] (1:37:46 - 1:37:48) All those in favor? [Speaker 8] (1:37:48 - 1:37:48) Aye. [Speaker 3] (1:37:48 - 1:37:48) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:37:48 - 1:37:49) Aye. [Speaker 3] (1:37:50 - 1:37:52) Okay thank you for joining us and coming back. [Speaker 1] (1:37:53 - 1:37:54) Thank you everybody. [Speaker 1] (1:37:54 - 1:37:55) I greatly appreciate your time. [Speaker 8] (1:37:55 - 1:37:56) Thanks Pete. [Speaker 3] (1:37:56 - 1:37:56) Absolutely. [Speaker 3] (1:37:58 - 1:38:06) Okay, moving on to um our next topic of discussion. The poet laureate. [Speaker 3] (1:38:07 - 1:38:23) Um so y'all allowed me to take this and run, uh with the going back to the library and requesting that they participate or help us facilitate the poet laureate conversation. Um [Speaker 3] (1:38:24 - 1:38:25) I did [Speaker 10] (1:38:25 - 1:38:27) Seems like it's getting thrown back here. [Speaker 3] (1:38:27 - 1:38:32) I did that and here I am humbly coming back to you all. [Speaker 3] (1:38:33 - 1:38:44) So the library takes on a lot of programming and they felt like they should be part of this process but didn't feel like they should be could be the only part of this process. [Speaker 3] (1:38:46 - 1:38:49) I thought that Neil was going to be here but is he online? [Speaker 3] (1:38:52 - 1:38:59) So basically we have a proposal in front of us just for the folks at home. [Speaker 3] (1:39:00 - 1:39:14) The rationale for the Board of Library Trustees and the library staff asking for it to come back to the select board is that this is a civic and cultural role representing the entire community and it's not just a library. [Speaker 1] (1:39:22 - 1:39:48) So, Touche library, and here we are. Uh agreed maybe, but uh we do wanna see that this is happening and that we are, you know, promoting the arts and facilitating the programme. Um so the recommendation that the board of trustees put forward is that a committee be appointed by the select board. They select one uh that they suggest one or two select board members, one library trustee or the director or [Speaker 3] (1:39:48 - 1:39:49) True library trustees. [Speaker 1] (1:39:49 - 1:39:51) no, one library trustee. [Speaker 1] (1:39:51 - 1:39:56) C is what it says here. Um one, you can't have two because there's only three of them. [Speaker 4] (1:39:56 - 1:39:56) Right. [Speaker 1] (1:39:56 - 1:39:58) Uh [Speaker 1] (1:39:58 - 1:40:18) So one representative from Swampscott schools and then one or two community members with an arts or cultural background could include former poet laureates and the responsibilities of their scope would be to draft up some eligibility requirements and application process and judging criteria and then to put forward the process, [Speaker 1] (1:40:18 - 1:40:18) right, [Speaker 1] (1:40:18 - 1:40:21) and to recommend a candidate to the select board for appointment. [Speaker 1] (1:40:22 - 1:40:39) Um they definitely have done some of the leg work in as far as you know what this might look like. Um so they have requested a annual stipend of five hundred to a thousand dollars um to honor the poet laureate's contributions. [Speaker 1] (1:40:40 - 1:40:48) Um so I know that there is a cultural commission in town. I don't know if that's something that they could receive grant funding for. [Speaker 5] (1:40:50 - 1:40:50) 'Kay. [Speaker 1] (1:40:50 - 1:41:07) Mar z is probably a better answer of that question. Um but uh there could be also a partnership with the friends library or some other supporting programme through the library in order to facilitate the five two five hundred to a thousand dollars. Um [Speaker 1] (1:41:08 - 1:41:26) So basically their hope the hope is that the timeline would be that we would support the approval of the process and the formation of the committee that we would appoint a committee rather soon thereafter and they would spend the winter drafting guidelines and then open the application process sometime between the [Speaker 1] (1:41:27 - 1:41:40) middle to end of the winter that by spring we would be able to appoint a poet laureate for 2026 and that there would be some summer programming held related to the new appointed poet. [Speaker 1] (1:41:45 - 1:41:46) So [Speaker 1] (1:41:53 - 1:41:58) Poet laureate folks, I don't know really, you guys are just a band of merry poet supporters. [Speaker 1] (1:42:00 - 1:42:02) Um yes, [Speaker 6] (1:42:02 - 1:42:02) Yes. [Speaker 1] (1:42:02 - 1:42:06) please, if you wouldn't mind that would be great. Um they [Speaker 1] (1:42:07 - 1:42:13) I don't I don't think, have you guys seen what the library proposed, and then you counter proposed basically. [Speaker 1] (1:42:21 - 1:42:23) Oh, hold on one second. I think we're gonna turn your mic on. [Speaker 7] (1:42:24 - 1:42:25) Yeah. [Speaker 7] (1:42:25 - 1:42:25) Oh. [Speaker 1] (1:42:25 - 1:42:26) Tweet sweet. [Speaker 7] (1:42:27 - 1:42:27) Oh. [Speaker 1] (1:42:27 - 1:42:28) Thank you. [Speaker 1] (1:42:35 - 1:42:38) If not, we can utilize Marcy's. [Speaker 8] (1:42:42 - 1:42:43) All set? Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:42:43 - 1:42:43) Yep, thank you. [Speaker 8] (1:42:43 - 1:42:50) See Vianney Coney, uh twenty six Rock Ave, uh Poet Laureate, year uh twenty fifteen. [Speaker 8] (1:42:51 - 1:43:19) Um we uh basically agree with uh the proposal that the library um developed, um in doing some research on how other towns uh set up their poet laureate programme, this idea really is in very consistent with those other towns. So we're definitely on board with uh desire for the select board to appoint the committee and to the committee to take the lead in terms of the [Speaker 8] (1:43:20 - 1:43:27) uh organising and developing how they would choose a poet laureate. Um the [Speaker 8] (1:43:29 - 1:43:41) what I did include in the packet is the information from Rockport in North Andover which is similar to what we're proposing. Um and we're proposing on our end that [Speaker 8] (1:43:41 - 1:44:01) Definitely that the committee be a standing committee, that it would have function past just a year of the appointment and that would have ongoing uh help for the Poet Laureate, and also try to provide some art uh cultural aspect to the community as well. [Speaker 8] (1:44:03 - 1:44:05) And we're looking for, [Speaker 8] (1:44:05 - 1:44:30) this is typical for the town anyway, I think I'm making a point that you already know that the appointments be staggered for one year for one person, two years for the next, for two people and three years for the next two people so that as each position empties there is still a body of people on the committee who can continue the work and that's very typical of the town. [Speaker 8] (1:44:31 - 1:44:43) The a poet, the absolutely different change that we would propose has to do with the membership itself, which has to do with the um [Speaker 8] (1:44:45 - 1:45:01) uh uh the specific people who are identified. In the first case with the select board members, um in our case our proposal were simply saying that the select board or select board picks a representative to be on the committee. [Speaker 8] (1:45:02 - 1:45:06) Secondly there is the board of trustee or director from the library. [Speaker 8] (1:45:07 - 1:45:14) But in the number three position we really feel that there should be a designated one for a poet laureate to be on the committee. [Speaker 8] (1:45:15 - 1:45:19) This has nothing to do to just our school department, which is wonderful, [Speaker 8] (1:45:20 - 1:45:42) but in order to assure that there is a presence for poet laureates. And therefore the next, there are two other positions that could be chosen either by the select board, who could also be poet laureates, or could be someone from the school, or someone from other arts, visual arts, or [Speaker 8] (1:45:42 - 1:46:09) any other drama that art that is uh in the town. Um so those are the real differences in the it's not really it's really an addition to their proposal 'cause I um we I talked to Jonathan Nichols about this. This was something was an ob uh something I had supplied provided him. He doesn't have time to put it into his report. Um so he just uh I just added an addendum. [Speaker 8] (1:46:10 - 1:46:18) So, thank you very much for your help, and I hope that you approve this and we can move forward with the appointments. Thanks. [Speaker 1] (1:46:19 - 1:46:20) Thank you. [Speaker 1] (1:46:20 - 1:46:33) Okay, so what we would be looking for today is if you guys wanted to digest this and bring it back before a vote or we could just vote to approve creating creation of a committee, [Speaker 1] (1:46:34 - 1:46:35) the Poet Laureate. [Speaker 9] (1:46:36 - 1:46:36) The committee so [Speaker 1] (1:46:36 - 1:46:37) will be [Speaker 9] (1:46:37 - 1:46:42) we would just be voting to the creation of a committee, not all of the [Speaker 9] (1:46:43 - 1:46:44) lines within [Speaker 1] (1:46:45 - 1:46:45) Well [Speaker 9] (1:46:45 - 1:46:46) in there. [Speaker 1] (1:46:46 - 1:46:57) so I think it's important we say what how the committee is gonna be made up. So the committee will be five members or seven members, whatever we're looking at. And then if it's uh so both [Speaker 1] (1:46:57 - 1:47:03) uh recommendations reflect a select board member or a representative i think it's great to say or a representative because [Speaker 9] (1:47:03 - 1:47:03) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 1] (1:47:03 - 1:47:23) um there's lots of boards and committees and if we have a passion for it we should raise our hand and say it but if not then we can choose somebody who does and then help facilitate it to its best ability i think it's important that because of the mary marrying to the library that the library director or um a trustee is [Speaker 1] (1:47:24 - 1:47:25) is on this committee because [Speaker 9] (1:47:25 - 1:47:26) Right. [Speaker 1] (1:47:26 - 1:47:41) it's going to be, I think a lot of the programming that comes from it will probably be at the library and a lot of the benefit to it will be directly related to the library community. So they have a representative from Swamscott Schools, [Speaker 1] (1:47:42 - 1:47:49) these folks proposed a former poet laureate, there's still two community members thereafter so we can still... [Speaker 1] (1:47:49 - 1:48:01) propose one former poet laureate, one Somerville school community member, and one member of the community, if we wanted to do that. Um so it's just that sort of is flexible. [Speaker 1] (1:48:03 - 1:48:06) Or we could make the committee larger. Although I caution committee [Speaker 9] (1:48:06 - 1:48:06) I don't [Speaker 1] (1:48:06 - 1:48:07) committee larger because [Speaker 9] (1:48:07 - 1:48:07) I mean [Speaker 9] (1:48:07 - 1:48:09) I think we sh I think we just stick with [Speaker 10] (1:48:09 - 1:48:10) I think we should stick with that recommendation. [Speaker 9] (1:48:10 - 1:48:10) Alright. [Speaker 10] (1:48:10 - 1:48:10) So [Speaker 1] (1:48:10 - 1:48:11) Okay. [Speaker 9] (1:48:11 - 1:48:11) Well [Speaker 10] (1:48:11 - 1:48:13) I'm I'm happy to make a to make a motion. [Speaker 9] (1:48:13 - 1:48:15) like I think but j adding with the am with the amended [Speaker 9] (1:48:16 - 1:48:19) uh a select board or a select board appointee. [Speaker 1] (1:48:19 - 1:48:19) Yep, so that's [Speaker 10] (1:48:19 - 1:48:20) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:48:20 - 1:48:21) what the poet laureates [Speaker 9] (1:48:21 - 1:48:21) Right. [Speaker 1] (1:48:21 - 1:48:31) suggest and then a library trustee or director, uh the one former poet laureate, and then two community members [Speaker 1] (1:48:32 - 1:48:34) um with a arts [Speaker 9] (1:48:34 - 1:48:34) Right. [Speaker 1] (1:48:34 - 1:48:35) or cultural background. [Speaker 8] (1:48:35 - 1:48:35) Yep. [Speaker 9] (1:48:35 - 1:48:35) Diane [Speaker 10] (1:48:35 - 1:48:35) Let [Speaker 9] (1:48:35 - 1:48:37) can you start advertising this. [Speaker 1] (1:48:37 - 1:48:40) Yeah, because we can consider, I mean right now in our [Speaker 1] (1:48:40 - 1:48:41) When we look at applications, [Speaker 1] (1:48:42 - 1:48:47) it would be great if we got one from the school, but if we don't, we don't wanna hold a spot open waiting for a school um [Speaker 10] (1:48:47 - 1:48:47) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 1] (1:48:47 - 1:48:48) but [Speaker 10] (1:48:48 - 1:48:48) I see. [Speaker 1] (1:48:48 - 1:48:57) we should absolutely identify ex the te like the teachers at the school and um you know I would love to see a high school uh appointment [Speaker 9] (1:48:57 - 1:48:57) Student? [Speaker 1] (1:48:57 - 1:49:01) student appointed to engage in this if one is available, [Speaker 1] (1:49:02 - 1:49:09) but by having two community members we can still absolutely do that. Um and then that way we're not hamstring if we don't [Speaker 3] (1:49:11 - 1:49:11) Mm. [Speaker 1] (1:49:11 - 1:49:12) have an open spot. So. [Speaker 4] (1:49:12 - 1:49:20) Okay. So motion to approve uh the establishment of uh the poet laureate uh committee as presented in our packet. [Speaker 4] (1:49:20 - 1:49:20) The [Speaker 1] (1:49:20 - 1:49:21) Reflective [Speaker 4] (1:49:21 - 1:49:21) amended. [Speaker 1] (1:49:21 - 1:49:21) of the poet [Speaker 4] (1:49:21 - 1:49:21) Th the [Speaker 1] (1:49:21 - 1:49:22) laureate. [Speaker 4] (1:49:22 - 1:49:24) the amended as yes. Yes, sorry. [Speaker 5] (1:49:24 - 1:49:24) Second. [Speaker 6] (1:49:25 - 1:49:28) So, so are we just doing okay, so we're just uh [Speaker 7] (1:49:28 - 1:49:29) We're just putting together the committee. [Speaker 6] (1:49:29 - 1:49:29) Just the [Speaker 1] (1:49:29 - 1:49:29) Yep. [Speaker 6] (1:49:29 - 1:49:31) committee, not the rest of the proposal. [Speaker 7] (1:49:31 - 1:49:32) Diane will start advertising it tomorrow. [Speaker 1] (1:49:33 - 1:49:45) Yep, and then uh I think it is important that we stagger the appointments just like we do for all other committees, that it's reflected of that, so that we can rotate folks in who still have a uh touch point to what works. [Speaker 8] (1:49:46 - 1:49:50) Longer their terms? Why would you want that? One year, then two, and then three? Something like that? [Speaker 1] (1:49:52 - 1:49:53) Yeah, I think that's [Speaker 8] (1:49:53 - 1:49:53) the [Speaker 1] (1:49:53 - 1:49:53) it. [Speaker 8] (1:49:53 - 1:49:58) three-year term would be the normal term, but the staggered would be a different, [Speaker 1] (1:49:58 - 1:49:59) Would s yeah. [Speaker 8] (1:49:59 - 1:50:03) so the normal term, and the third one is sort of cheaper. [Speaker 1] (1:50:03 - 1:50:08) Yep. So we would s eventually end up where everybody has a three-year term, but it would be staggered. [Speaker 4] (1:50:08 - 1:50:09) Yep. [Speaker 6] (1:50:09 - 1:50:09) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:50:10 - 1:50:12) Okay. So all in favor? [Speaker 7] (1:50:13 - 1:50:13) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:50:13 - 1:50:14) Aye. [Speaker 4] (1:50:14 - 1:50:14) Aye. [Speaker 7] (1:50:14 - 1:50:14) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:50:14 - 1:50:21) Okay. Thank you very much for joining us, and thank you to Jonathan and the library staff for helping us. [Speaker 1] (1:50:22 - 1:50:28) We've come to this decision, appreciate the energy that's put in by you guys and by Jonathan. [Speaker 1] (1:50:29 - 1:50:33) Looking forward to our 2026 Poet Laureate. [Speaker 1] (1:50:36 - 1:50:40) All righty. That concludes all the new business. We are on to the consent agenda. [Speaker 6] (1:50:40 - 1:50:41) Yeah, number five. [Speaker 1] (1:50:41 - 1:50:43) Oh, just kidding. Sorry, [Speaker 4] (1:50:43 - 1:50:43) There's [Speaker 1] (1:50:43 - 1:50:43) Doug. [Speaker 4] (1:50:43 - 1:50:44) the, do we have the information [Speaker 1] (1:50:44 - 1:50:45) Uh, [Speaker 4] (1:50:45 - 1:50:45) on [Speaker 1] (1:50:45 - 1:50:45) there [Speaker 4] (1:50:45 - 1:50:45) that? [Speaker 1] (1:50:45 - 1:50:46) is no information. [Speaker 6] (1:50:46 - 1:50:47) Yeah, but it's [Speaker 1] (1:50:47 - 1:50:52) So the number five, discussion and possible vote to modify the code of conduct regarding select board approval and non-standard expenses. [Speaker 1] (1:50:52 - 1:51:01) Doug and I have been going back and forth about this. We committed to having a conversation about this based on the invoice, we'll just say. [Speaker 7] (1:51:01 - 1:51:02) Invoice date. [Speaker 1] (1:51:02 - 1:51:06) And so I sort of was pushing back on Doug to say what [Speaker 6] (1:51:06 - 1:51:06) Yep. [Speaker 1] (1:51:06 - 1:51:07) are the edits, [Speaker 1] (1:51:07 - 1:51:08) what does it look like, and [Speaker 6] (1:51:08 - 1:51:08) Yep. [Speaker 1] (1:51:08 - 1:51:09) he was saying well [Speaker 6] (1:51:09 - 1:51:09) Here they are. [Speaker 1] (1:51:09 - 1:51:10) let's have a conversation. [Speaker 6] (1:51:10 - 1:51:11) Well, here they are. [Speaker 1] (1:51:11 - 1:51:12) Oh, great. [Speaker 6] (1:51:12 - 1:51:15) Okay, so we have a code of conduct for the select board, [Speaker 6] (1:51:15 - 1:51:15) right? [Speaker 6] (1:51:16 - 1:51:20) And we have a chapter seven on financial management, which lists a bunch of things. [Speaker 6] (1:51:22 - 1:51:24) Town administrator's office, [Speaker 6] (1:51:24 - 1:51:25) I won't read them all, [Speaker 6] (1:51:25 - 1:51:28) but there's a very small section on financial management. [Speaker 6] (1:51:28 - 1:51:30) If you wish me to read it, I can, [Speaker 6] (1:51:30 - 1:51:48) but I'm basically suggesting the addition of one bullet that says, select board shall not expend town funds without the town administrator's authority and not without select board vote for any funds above $1,000. [Speaker 6] (1:51:54 - 1:51:54) Please close. [Speaker 1] (1:51:54 - 1:51:56) You have a sec, did you say section seven? [Speaker 6] (1:51:57 - 1:51:57) Yeah? [Speaker 7] (1:51:57 - 1:51:58) Could you send this to us in advance? [Speaker 6] (1:51:58 - 1:51:58) No. [Speaker 7] (1:51:59 - 1:51:59) No. [Speaker 6] (1:52:00 - 1:52:02) No, I didn't. It's a lot to digest, [Speaker 1] (1:52:02 - 1:52:02) There is [Speaker 6] (1:52:02 - 1:52:03) okay? [Speaker 1] (1:52:03 - 1:52:03) no [Speaker 6] (1:52:03 - 1:52:03) But [Speaker 1] (1:52:03 - 1:52:03) ch [Speaker 6] (1:52:03 - 1:52:03) I can read it again. [Speaker 1] (1:52:03 - 1:52:06) Well, there is no chapter seven. So you're adding a whole chapter? [Speaker 6] (1:52:06 - 1:52:08) No, I have it. The one on [Speaker 1] (1:52:08 - 1:52:08) On [Speaker 6] (1:52:08 - 1:52:08) lobbying. [Speaker 1] (1:52:08 - 1:52:09) the code of conduct? [Speaker 7] (1:52:09 - 1:52:09) Are you? [Speaker 6] (1:52:09 - 1:52:11) Yeah, I have financial. [Speaker 6] (1:52:11 - 1:52:12) What am I looking at? [Speaker 4] (1:52:13 - 1:52:13) I don't know. [Speaker 6] (1:52:13 - 1:52:15) I guess something different. [Speaker 6] (1:52:15 - 1:52:15) Yeah, what's [Speaker 7] (1:52:15 - 1:52:15) All right. [Speaker 6] (1:52:15 - 1:52:16) that? [Speaker 6] (1:52:18 - 1:52:18) Oh. [Speaker 7] (1:52:18 - 1:52:18) Okay, [Speaker 6] (1:52:18 - 1:52:18) So [Speaker 7] (1:52:18 - 1:52:18) can we [Speaker 6] (1:52:18 - 1:52:19) you just [Speaker 7] (1:52:19 - 1:52:19) can [Speaker 6] (1:52:19 - 1:52:19) passed [Speaker 7] (1:52:19 - 1:52:19) we table [Speaker 6] (1:52:19 - 1:52:19) the regulation. [Speaker 7] (1:52:19 - 1:52:20) this if we don't even know where it is? [Speaker 1] (1:52:20 - 1:52:22) Oh, okay. So [Speaker 6] (1:52:22 - 1:52:25) Sorry, procedures, policies and regulation manual. [Speaker 1] (1:52:26 - 1:52:29) Okay, so what I will do then is we will [Speaker 1] (1:52:30 - 1:52:32) we will write this out. [Speaker 6] (1:52:34 - 1:52:34) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:52:34 - 1:52:36) Because I when was the last time we approved that? [Speaker 6] (1:52:39 - 1:52:40) This one says 2000. [Speaker 6] (1:52:41 - 1:52:42) Twenty two. [Speaker 4] (1:52:42 - 1:52:43) I thought we just approved [Speaker 6] (1:52:43 - 1:52:45) Thought those. we just, didn't we just approve all this? [Speaker 8] (1:52:45 - 1:52:46) Just approved it a [Speaker 6] (1:52:46 - 1:52:46) Yeah. [Speaker 8] (1:52:46 - 1:52:46) month ago. [Speaker 1] (1:52:46 - 1:52:47) We just approved that. [Speaker 6] (1:52:47 - 1:52:47) Yeah. [Speaker 8] (1:52:47 - 1:52:47) I don't remember [Speaker 4] (1:52:47 - 1:52:48) So we need [Speaker 8] (1:52:48 - 1:52:48) this. [Speaker 4] (1:52:48 - 1:52:48) to post [Speaker 1] (1:52:48 - 1:52:48) But [Speaker 4] (1:52:48 - 1:52:48) the [Speaker 1] (1:52:48 - 1:52:49) not this [Speaker 4] (1:52:49 - 1:52:49) make [Speaker 1] (1:52:49 - 1:52:49) is not the [Speaker 4] (1:52:49 - 1:52:49) post [Speaker 1] (1:52:49 - 1:52:49) the put [Speaker 4] (1:52:49 - 1:52:49) most [Speaker 1] (1:52:49 - 1:52:50) the [Speaker 4] (1:52:50 - 1:52:50) updated [Speaker 1] (1:52:50 - 1:52:50) conduct. [Speaker 4] (1:52:50 - 1:52:51) version on [Speaker 7] (1:52:51 - 1:52:52) No, it's the procedures. [Speaker 4] (1:52:53 - 1:52:54) On the website. [Speaker 6] (1:52:54 - 1:52:56) Yeah, this one, this is what's on the website. [Speaker 8] (1:52:56 - 1:52:56) Yep. [Speaker 1] (1:52:57 - 1:52:57) 'Kay. [Speaker 6] (1:52:57 - 1:52:57) But [Speaker 8] (1:52:58 - 1:53:00) Do I have the one red line one? [Speaker 8] (1:53:00 - 1:53:01) I think so. [Speaker 8] (1:53:01 - 1:53:01) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:53:01 - 1:53:02) I hope so. [Speaker 8] (1:53:02 - 1:53:04) Actually I think it's wrong, but I don't have it, okay? [Speaker 7] (1:53:04 - 1:53:05) Well it's all to the good. [Speaker 1] (1:53:05 - 1:53:05) Alright. [Speaker 4] (1:53:05 - 1:53:07) Let's take a listen. [Speaker 1] (1:53:07 - 1:53:07) Hmm? [Speaker 6] (1:53:12 - 1:53:21) Well regardless of which, doesn't matter if it's this is the most current version of the website, because they'll take care of it. But I I don't care. [Speaker 6] (1:53:21 - 1:53:21) Okay. [Speaker 7] (1:53:22 - 1:53:23) We can vote on it. [Speaker 6] (1:53:23 - 1:53:24) We can vote on it, we can [Speaker 7] (1:53:24 - 1:53:24) That would be [Speaker 6] (1:53:24 - 1:53:24) think [Speaker 7] (1:53:24 - 1:53:24) good. [Speaker 6] (1:53:24 - 1:53:25) deeply about it [Speaker 4] (1:53:25 - 1:53:25) No, [Speaker 6] (1:53:25 - 1:53:25) and then [Speaker 4] (1:53:25 - 1:53:25) I'm, [Speaker 6] (1:53:25 - 1:53:26) I [Speaker 4] (1:53:26 - 1:53:26) I'm [Speaker 7] (1:53:26 - 1:53:26) I think there's much [Speaker 4] (1:53:26 - 1:53:36) I'm I'm I'm comfortable I'm comfortable with it. I d d just we didn't I just wanna make sure we didn't strike anything in that paragraph. But I'm I'm when we [Speaker 1] (1:53:36 - 1:53:36) Conceptually [Speaker 4] (1:53:36 - 1:53:38) when we re when we re-reviewed this, that's all. [Speaker 1] (1:53:40 - 1:53:40) Sorry. [Speaker 1] (1:53:41 - 1:53:47) Conceptually we all said we were sort of thinking about a way to make sure that this doesn't happen going forward. [Speaker 9] (1:53:47 - 1:53:47) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:53:47 - 1:53:59) I think what is just the specifics matter, so if we could just get I will or Diane can or whatever make a reflection of the red line, send it all out to us, we can digest it, and on the next meeting we will put this on to [Speaker 4] (1:53:59 - 1:54:01) It's consent agenda probably, right? [Speaker 1] (1:54:01 - 1:54:02) how it it you sure? Yes. [Speaker 4] (1:54:02 - 1:54:03) Okay. Yeah, 'cause I think [Speaker 6] (1:54:03 - 1:54:04) So we we need state [Speaker 4] (1:54:04 - 1:54:04) I [Speaker 6] (1:54:04 - 1:54:04) that [Speaker 4] (1:54:04 - 1:54:05) think we're good, we just wanna see it. [Speaker 6] (1:54:05 - 1:54:07) Do you have this marvellous [Speaker 1] (1:54:08 - 1:54:08) Sentence, [Speaker 6] (1:54:08 - 1:54:08) Sentence. [Speaker 1] (1:54:08 - 1:54:10) one line. And where it's gonna go? [Speaker 6] (1:54:10 - 1:54:12) Do you want me to restate it or? [Speaker 8] (1:54:12 - 1:54:17) Just send it to me when you get a chance and then I'll add it to the one that we approved back on just [Speaker 6] (1:54:17 - 1:54:18) Okay. [Speaker 8] (1:54:18 - 1:54:19) and send it on. [Speaker 6] (1:54:19 - 1:54:20) I'll talk to you after. [Speaker 8] (1:54:20 - 1:54:21) Okay, please. [Speaker 1] (1:54:21 - 1:54:21) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:54:23 - 1:54:23) Um [Speaker 1] (1:54:25 - 1:54:25) okay. [Speaker 1] (1:54:27 - 1:54:31) And we will and it will be a item on the agenda to modify the [Speaker 1] (1:54:32 - 1:54:34) Process and procedure manual through the Dakota [Speaker 6] (1:54:34 - 1:54:35) Park? Yeah, maybe that too, yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:54:35 - 1:54:39) Uh so we couldn't vote on it today anyways 'cause we're not modifying the right document. [Speaker 6] (1:54:39 - 1:54:40) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:54:41 - 1:54:43) Um okay. [Speaker 10] (1:54:43 - 1:54:43) Sure. [Speaker 1] (1:54:43 - 1:54:45) Approval of the consent agenda. [Speaker 1] (1:54:47 - 1:54:53) This is discussion and possible vote to allow a two and a half by eight foot banner to be hung at Phillips Park fence. [Speaker 1] (1:54:54 - 1:54:59) Responsive about youth hockey, a ver uh version of it is on here. It's a learn to skate banner, you've seen it out and about. [Speaker 1] (1:55:00 - 1:55:06) time at multiple times. And then the vote to approve the minutes 812, [Speaker 1] (1:55:07 - 1:55:07) 818, [Speaker 1] (1:55:07 - 1:55:08) 819, [Speaker 1] (1:55:08 - 1:55:09) and 826. [Speaker 7] (1:55:09 - 1:55:10) Motion to approve. [Speaker 7] (1:55:11 - 1:55:11) Second. [Speaker 1] (1:55:13 - 1:55:15) David, you have something on the tip of your tongue before I... [Speaker 11] (1:55:15 - 1:55:16) Nope. [Speaker 1] (1:55:16 - 1:55:16) You [Speaker 4] (1:55:16 - 1:55:16) I [Speaker 1] (1:55:16 - 1:55:16) good? [Speaker 4] (1:55:16 - 1:55:17) had, yep. [Speaker 1] (1:55:17 - 1:55:17) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:55:19 - 1:55:20) All those in favor? [Speaker 7] (1:55:20 - 1:55:20) Aye. [Speaker 4] (1:55:20 - 1:55:20) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:55:20 - 1:55:20) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:55:22 - 1:55:22) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:55:22 - 1:55:23) Select board time. [Speaker 1] (1:55:27 - 1:55:31) We were so robust last meeting that now nobody has anything this meeting? [Speaker 7] (1:55:32 - 1:55:53) Um I can go first. I just want to thank Nate Beishon, Nathan Kent and Joe Dulett. It's been a couple weeks where we go late into the night and we forget to thank them. So thank you once again for bringing this to uh to people at Swampscott and um and beyond. And I just want to reiterate the senior center we now have. [Speaker 7] (1:55:53 - 1:55:54) A new electric van, [Speaker 7] (1:55:54 - 1:55:56) which is pretty exciting. [Speaker 7] (1:55:58 - 1:56:14) The Solid Waste Advisory Committee is working very hard on a fix-it clinic, and they should have that up and going I think within the next 30 days, just trying to uh work out a couple more details, legal details for the waiver. And um [Speaker 1] (1:56:15 - 1:56:16) We're not going to be touching bikes. [Speaker 7] (1:56:17 - 1:56:22) Yeah, we just uh my recommendation is we do not touch a bicycle, but we just work that out. [Speaker 7] (1:56:23 - 1:56:29) work that out in our in our waiver. And um that is all I have to report on my committees. [Speaker 6] (1:56:33 - 1:56:34) I have a very brief, uh, [Speaker 7] (1:56:34 - 1:56:34) Okay. [Speaker 6] (1:56:34 - 1:56:41) Climate Action would like to come and do a brief update over next meeting or two, [Speaker 6] (1:56:41 - 1:56:44) uh particularly with a [Speaker 6] (1:56:47 - 1:56:59) the signage project that they've been working on for quite some time that they would like to come and present to select board. I think technically the town administrator has the authority to put some signs in town property, [Speaker 6] (1:56:59 - 1:57:04) but they like to bring it forward for a little public review, [Speaker 6] (1:57:05 - 1:57:05) preview, [Speaker 6] (1:57:05 - 1:57:07) and then give a general [Speaker 6] (1:57:08 - 1:57:35) committee update because we are a climate leader not to steal their thunder but we as you may recall we are now eligible for some very serious sized grants you know 150 thousand dollars for design of things or up to a million dollars for things like geothermal or solar or that type of thing so the committee is in some deliberations with max etc on what those [Speaker 6] (1:57:36 - 1:57:47) uh criteria should be what the proposed project should be um and so they would you know bring a a little update about that, maybe not a final recommendation, but um uh [Speaker 6] (1:57:48 - 1:58:00) that's the request, and I will have the date whether or not they would really really prefer there it's an outside party that would be part of it, so whether or not ideally would be at the next meeting or the first one in October. I'll just let you know soon. [Speaker 1] (1:58:00 - 1:58:08) Um just a quick question about that Doug, it's is it if the building is a town building but it's being leased to a third party, would we still be eligible for those grant option? [Speaker 7] (1:58:09 - 1:58:10) We should be. [Speaker 1] (1:58:13 - 1:58:14) Because at [Speaker 6] (1:58:14 - 1:58:16) Yes, it because all of a sudden remains a town building. [Speaker 1] (1:58:16 - 1:58:18) because at the next meeting we'll have the folks from um [Speaker 7] (1:58:18 - 1:58:18) Well, [Speaker 1] (1:58:18 - 1:58:20) what? [Speaker 7] (1:58:20 - 1:58:29) there's there was dis we had discussion with about this with some state officials and they had a different opinion, but I think [Speaker 7] (1:58:30 - 1:58:33) We don't have an absolute on that. We have to really do a little bit more research. [Speaker 6] (1:58:34 - 1:58:34) Okay. [Speaker 1] (1:58:35 - 1:58:43) This might be a benefit we're offering to as developers come in or something that we have this opportunity if there are buildings being refurbished. [Speaker 7] (1:58:43 - 1:58:46) Yeah, it's all [Speaker 1] (1:58:46 - 1:58:47) No, why you look at me like that? [Speaker 6] (1:58:48 - 1:58:49) Because I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. [Speaker 1] (1:58:49 - 1:58:50) The Hadley. [Speaker 6] (1:58:50 - 1:58:50) With it. [Speaker 1] (1:58:50 - 1:58:51) The Hadley. [Speaker 6] (1:58:52 - 1:58:54) Yeah, that is not, yeah, [Speaker 6] (1:58:54 - 1:58:55) that's not on the list, but okay, [Speaker 6] (1:58:56 - 1:58:56) yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:59:00 - 1:59:01) Anybody else? [Speaker 4] (1:59:04 - 1:59:04) Mm-hmm. [Speaker 1] (1:59:04 - 1:59:04) Okay. [Speaker 3] (1:59:04 - 1:59:04) Hmm. [Speaker 1] (1:59:04 - 1:59:04) Okay. [Speaker 4] (1:59:04 - 1:59:05) Motion to adjourn. [Speaker 3] (1:59:05 - 1:59:06) So moved. The second. [Speaker 4] (1:59:08 - 1:59:09) All in If favor. [Speaker 5] (1:59:09 - 1:59:09) you [Speaker 1] (1:59:09 - 1:59:09) We [Speaker 5] (1:59:09 - 1:59:09) shall do both? [Speaker 1] (1:59:09 - 1:59:10) back to an old habit. [Speaker 1] (1:59:11 - 1:59:12) All those in favor? [Speaker 4] (1:59:13 - 1:59:13) Aye. [Speaker 5] (1:59:13 - 1:59:13) Aye. [Speaker 1] (1:59:13 - 1:59:15) Aye. Thank you everyone. [Speaker 5] (1:59:15 - 1:59:15) Aye.