[Speaker 1] (5:32 - 5:32)
You mean what you talking

[Speaker 2] (5:32 - 5:33)
I'm gonna try

[Speaker 1] (5:33 - 5:33)
about?

[Speaker 2] (5:33 - 5:34)
to go for it.

[Speaker 1] (5:34 - 5:34)
I don't have.

[Speaker 3] (5:34 - 5:35)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (5:35 - 5:35)
Quack.

[Speaker 3] (5:35 - 5:37)
Good evening everyone. Welcome

[Speaker 1] (5:37 - 5:37)
Quack.

[Speaker 3] (5:37 - 5:42)
to the oh thank you. Welcome to the uh what is the date today? That's this Tuesday, October

[Speaker 1] (5:42 - 5:42)
Eight.

[Speaker 3] (5:42 - 5:42)
eight.

[Speaker 1] (5:42 - 5:43)
October eight.

[Speaker 3] (5:43 - 5:43)
Thank you. Eight.

[Speaker 1] (5:43 - 5:44)
I never know I'm always

[Speaker 3] (5:44 - 5:52)
Wednesday, October eighth meeting of the select board. We call this meeting to order. If you could please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Speaker 3] (5:55 - 5:57)
I pledge allegiance to the flag

[Speaker 3] (5:57 - 6:06)
of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[Speaker 3] (6:09 - 6:11)
As a reminder to folks,

[Speaker 3] (6:11 - 6:15)
this meeting is being recorded so first

[Speaker 3] (6:17 - 6:22)
we will start with the reading of the Indigenous People's Day proclamation.

[Speaker 3] (6:27 - 6:34)
This says, whereas instead of commemorating Conquest today here in the town of Swampscott,

[Speaker 3] (6:34 - 6:36)
we recognize our history,

[Speaker 3] (6:36 - 6:43)
and since time immemorial people indigenous to the lands we now call Swampscott built communities,

[Speaker 3] (6:43 - 6:44)
fostered culture,

[Speaker 3] (6:44 - 6:55)
and stewarded the land sustainably, and whereas for the first time in our town's history we recognize indigenous people here and anywhere in the United States.

[Speaker 3] (6:55 - 7:02)
As we pay respect to the cultures and populations that existed long before European contact with this land,

[Speaker 3] (7:02 - 7:08)
so too we celebrate the contributions of all Indigenous peoples to the culture of diversity,

[Speaker 3] (7:08 - 7:14)
innovation and resilience that has had an indelible impact on the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

[Speaker 3] (7:14 - 7:20)
And whereas the town of Swampscott recognizes that the Indigenous people of the lands later known as the Americas

[Speaker 3] (7:21 - 7:39)
have lived on these lands since time immemorial and we honor the fact that Swampscott has been built upon the traditional and ancestral homes of Native Americans referred to as Numkeg. Sorry, Numkeg, thank you, and called Swampscott the land of Red Rock.

[Speaker 3] (7:40 - 7:55)
And whereas Indigenous People's Day was first proposed in 1977 by a delegation of Native Nations to the United Nations-sponsored International Conference on Discrimination Against Indigenous Populations in the Americas,

[Speaker 3] (7:55 - 8:01)
and whereas the town of Swampscott is committed to protecting and advocating for justice,

[Speaker 3] (8:01 - 8:04)
human rights, and the dignity of all people.

[Speaker 3] (8:04 - 8:13)
who live, work and visit our community and to supporting the principles contained in the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People,

[Speaker 3] (8:14 - 8:18)
the declaration endorsed by the United States on December 16,

[Speaker 3] (8:18 - 8:18)
2010.

[Speaker 3] (8:19 - 8:27)
And whereas the Declaration of Human Rights recognizes the right of indigenous peoples to the dignity and diversity of their cultures,

[Speaker 3] (8:28 - 8:28)
traditions,

[Speaker 3] (8:29 - 8:44)
histories and aspirations which shall be appropriately reflected in education and public information and places an obligation to take effective measures in consultation and cooperation with the indigenous peoples concerned.

[Speaker 3] (8:45 - 8:50)
to combat prejudice and eliminate discrimination and to promote tolerance,

[Speaker 3] (8:50 - 8:55)
understanding and good relations among indigenous peoples and all other segments of society.

[Speaker 3] (8:56 - 8:57)
And now therefore,

[Speaker 3] (8:57 - 8:59)
on behalf of the entire Select Board,

[Speaker 3] (8:59 - 9:02)
we do hereby proclaim October 13,

[Speaker 3] (9:02 - 9:04)
2025 as Indigenous People Day.

[Speaker 3] (9:05 - 9:06)
In the town of Swampscott,

[Speaker 3] (9:06 - 9:07)
Massachusetts,

[Speaker 3] (9:07 - 9:10)
that encourage all faith-based nonprofit organizations,

[Speaker 3] (9:10 - 9:11)
residents, businesses,

[Speaker 3] (9:11 - 9:13)
and public institutions to acknowledge,

[Speaker 3] (9:14 - 9:15)
honor,

[Speaker 3] (9:15 - 9:15)
value,

[Speaker 3] (9:15 - 9:21)
and celebrate indigenous peoples' historic and current contributions locally and beyond,

[Speaker 3] (9:21 - 9:33)
while also recognizing the ongoing and interconnected struggles of all indigenous communities locally and beyond. In witness hereof, we have hereunto set our hands and cause to be affixed the great seal of the town of Swampscott,

[Speaker 3] (9:33 - 9:33)
Massachusetts.

[Speaker 3] (9:33 - 9:38)
This is this eighth day of October 2025 by the Swanstad Select Board.

[Speaker 3] (9:40 - 9:43)
So I think we often,

[Speaker 3] (9:43 - 9:49)
I mentioned last time, we read these proclamations and then we move on to the next topic because we have a lot on our agenda,

[Speaker 3] (9:49 - 9:56)
but it's important that we reflect on what those words mean and how we conduct ourselves in those words.

[Speaker 3] (9:56 - 9:59)
And I do want to let everybody know that at the...

[Speaker 1] (10:11 - 10:32)
a child a children's craft activity that worked through. It was quite lovely and so I just wanted to acknowledge that you know it's not just about proclamations it's about learning and making sure that we are actioning on the words we speak so we are going to move on to the town administrators report.

[Speaker 2] (10:33 - 10:34)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (10:34 - 10:35)
You're welcome.

[Speaker 2] (10:35 - 10:36)
Good evening, everyone.

[Speaker 3] (10:38 - 10:51)
So I'm planning to sort of change this up a little bit uh and I've had some initial discussions with members to sort of understand that, but i in light of the fact that I'm new and I'm getting up to speed, I wanted to give a little rundown of

[Speaker 3] (10:51 - 11:00)
What my week has been like this week, um and not just recite the things that uh Gino and the team have completed uh prior to my even coming here. So I have a little bit put together.

[Speaker 3] (11:00 - 11:02)
The idea that I that I was planning going forward,

[Speaker 3] (11:02 - 11:20)
I'm happy to take feedback, is that I will have uh certain high level highlights, um talk about events and hiring and things that might be going on. But the report will still be compiled as is. Uh you'll receive it in your packets and it'll be posted for residents for review as well, um which it's usually on Thursdays that it gets posted online, I believe.

[Speaker 3] (11:20 - 11:20)
believe.

[Speaker 3] (11:20 - 11:29)
So people can still track what's going on in the in the deeper report, but we can spend a little more time here and high level things or in questions that you all may may get out of the report that's given to you.

[Speaker 3] (11:30 - 11:43)
Um so giving your rundown uh of the week, I first I wanna you know add to the the thanks that have been shared with Gino. I know you all thanked him at the last meeting when I was appointed, but um you know any transition is difficult.

[Speaker 3] (11:43 - 11:55)
He's handled it both in the front end and the back end. He's been really great for me uh in the days that I've been here and leading up. And it's very clear from meeting with the staff that that he did everything he could to support them during the time he was wearing multiple hats.

[Speaker 3] (11:55 - 11:59)
So I wanna start by just saying thank you and thank you to you Gino from me, from the staff,

[Speaker 3] (11:58 - 12:03)
From the staff and, as they expressed in the department head meeting, I think you know they really appreciated all the work that you do.

[Speaker 4] (12:03 - 12:04)
Thank you.

[Speaker 5] (12:04 - 12:05)
Sure.

[Speaker 3] (12:05 - 12:27)
Sure. Um so just to talk a little bit more about uh sort of what's been going on. I've started meetings with some elected officials, the folks at the table uh chief among them and and department heads individually, but we had our first department head meeting today. Uh really basic for me, the conversation I wanted to have with them, it's things that I didn't want to have unsaid. Um there's a a few key messages beyond time.

[Speaker 3] (12:28 - 12:40)
Be responsive, do our best to respond as soon as possible. The real goal is within a day or so. Understanding there's staffing and resource constraints, that's something I ask them to flag for me if there's anything that can be done to speed that up or if that's an issue.

[Speaker 3] (12:41 - 12:51)
But it's something that I think is an absolute baseline expectation and I want to make sure they understand it's something I have and I know it's been shared in different ways and in different words by folks up here at this table. So that was number one.

[Speaker 3] (12:52 - 12:58)
Um I let them know that there'll be a regular cadence of department head meetings. Uh the first one that I'm going to have with each of them is to learn about their organization,

[Speaker 3] (12:59 - 13:14)
uh cut issues either that they've had identified by elected officials, uh with HR ongoing issues that have, you know, sort of knots that need to be untied to see what I can do to help with those things that may have been um sort of lingering over time because everyone was just doing their best to continue to move the ball forward.

[Speaker 3] (13:15 - 13:18)
Uh and there'll be an ongoing uh effort by me to get out to act

[Speaker 3] (13:18 - 13:24)
to actually be with the different departments. I want to do skip level meetings and meet folks that are below just the department head.

[Speaker 3] (13:24 - 13:30)
I want to know people below just the department and the deputy or assistant so that we can start to identify future leaders,

[Speaker 3] (13:30 - 13:32)
people that we can help develop if they're interested in that,

[Speaker 3] (13:32 - 13:37)
and I want to have those conversations directly and hear about things that they think are challenges or opportunities.

[Speaker 3] (13:39 - 13:41)
I also let them know finally that

[Speaker 3] (13:42 - 14:03)
My interest is to begin the initial discussions around the budget maybe earlier than normal so that it will give me an opportunity to get up to speed but certainly also an opportunity to share with you all as I gather information and we compile things where we are in the process and what the projections look like knowing that everything firms up as we move throughout the year. And at this point it is very much projections on revenue and projections on spending,

[Speaker 3] (14:03 - 14:05)
but really just starting to get our arms around that.

[Speaker 3] (14:06 - 14:12)
Um the last message that I mentioned uh individually with folks, I've done it as I've spoken to you all and with department heads,

[Speaker 3] (14:12 - 14:15)
and I think this is important for the community at large.

[Speaker 3] (14:15 - 14:20)
My door is open to volunteers, elected officials, appointed officials, residents, anyone who has a question.

[Speaker 3] (14:21 - 14:26)
At this point, I will probably not have the initial answer when someone has a question, just to be fair.

[Speaker 3] (14:26 - 14:30)
I'm going to disappoint you if you come in looking for the answer when I when we have a first discussion.

[Speaker 3] (14:31 - 14:33)
But that's something I'll get up to speed with quickly.

[Speaker 3] (14:33 - 14:38)
But I want people to know that, you know, whether it's through Diane's office or through mine, the door that's right there,

[Speaker 3] (14:38 - 14:40)
we're here to to help.

[Speaker 3] (14:40 - 14:41)
I want to get up to speed quickly.

[Speaker 3] (14:41 - 14:48)
The best way for me to do that is to hear from everyone and not just the individuals at this table or at any other election.

[Speaker 3] (14:47 - 15:14)
elected board I want to go outside of that group and and I welcome those conversations in addition I would love to talk and I think Katie you and Danielle had mentioned in the past the idea of you know a regular round of outreach that I can do and I'd love to hear from folks where that might be good outside of being at an event like what is an opportunity that I can sort of sit there and for lack of a better terms have office hours to meet someone

[Speaker 3] (15:15 - 15:19)
hear concerns and and have discussions with them and understand what's important.

[Speaker 3] (15:20 - 15:23)
On the staff side, a couple things that I do want to pull out of the report,

[Speaker 3] (15:23 - 15:26)
I think some of them may have been discussed when Gina was last here,

[Speaker 3] (15:27 - 15:31)
but there's a couple of positions that were, you know, in the interview process right now,

[Speaker 3] (15:31 - 15:32)
public safety admin,

[Speaker 3] (15:32 - 15:34)
customer service rep and rec coordinator.

[Speaker 3] (15:34 - 15:40)
We're moving through those as we go and in addition over the last couple weeks there's been a few new hires.

[Speaker 3] (15:40 - 15:42)
Again I apologize if I'm repeating them.

[Speaker 3] (15:43 - 15:57)
Uh Tim Millican, the new land use planner, Nathaniel Snow is our library head of technical services, Whitney Wilkinson is the new library aid, um and then Kevin Kaufman was hired as a police officer and will be going into the academy on the fourteenth. Um so

[Speaker 3] (15:58 - 16:07)
I'll continue to refine this. I want feedback. I want to know what you guys would like me to focus on, but I wanted to really dial in the amount of information that we have. We still share that,

[Speaker 3] (16:07 - 16:12)
but we focus this time on things that are important to you guys if you have questions that are prompted,

[Speaker 3] (16:12 - 16:15)
or if you can redirect me to make sure I include things that you'd like to hear.

[Speaker 3] (16:16 - 16:22)
And with that, I think Gino and I are here to answer any questions that may have come out of this report if you all have any.

[Speaker 3] (16:30 - 16:34)
Sure. Um, I think this maybe for Gino. For.

[Speaker 6] (16:34 - 16:35)
Most likely is.

[Speaker 3] (16:36 - 16:38)
Um so on the U_V_ pilot

[Speaker 6] (16:38 - 16:39)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (16:39 - 16:50)
and the draft and you know, it says client fellows complete the final draft report, the Kings View Beach U_V_ pilot study has been reviewed by both the city of Lynn and town of Swampscott

[Speaker 3] (16:50 - 16:56)
stakeholders. It's currently being reviewed by Mass DEP. I anticipate the final draft being released by the end of the week.

[Speaker 3] (16:58 - 17:10)
And try to understand, like, they're reviewing it uh technically uh just just kind of the order of things in terms of like us getting it last before it goes to a mass DEP I guess is my question.

[Speaker 7] (17:10 - 17:25)
Well, Mass DEP was a stakeholder for me and I got a call from Eric Wald from Mass DEP because the city was, Lynn was ready to release it and he just didn't think that was a good idea. He wanted to make sure that all our assumptions were on the same page and we're going to be on the same page going

[Speaker 7] (17:25 - 17:26)
going forward.

[Speaker 7] (17:26 - 17:34)
That's why we initially we were going to release it this week, but after talking with him and talking to the mayor we decided to let them look it over before we release it.

[Speaker 3] (17:35 - 17:36)
Got it. Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (17:40 - 17:41)
Anybody else?

[Speaker 8] (17:41 - 17:47)
I have a question on that as well. We set Town of Swampscott stakeholders. Did the water and sewer commission review that?

[Speaker 7] (17:47 - 17:48)
They have not seen it yet.

[Speaker 8] (17:48 - 17:50)
So who are the Swampscott stakeholders?

[Speaker 7] (17:50 - 17:51)
Me.

[Speaker 8] (17:52 - 17:53)
State, so it should be

[Speaker 7] (17:53 - 17:53)
Stakeholder.

[Speaker 8] (17:53 - 17:54)
once that's stakeholder.

[Speaker 7] (17:54 - 17:55)
Yep. Yep.

[Speaker 8] (17:55 - 17:56)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (17:56 - 17:56)
It's representative many

[Speaker 7] (17:56 - 17:57)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (17:57 - 17:57)
of us.

[Speaker 8] (17:57 - 17:58)
Um.

[Speaker 8] (17:59 - 18:00)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (18:00 - 18:05)
Well, actually there is another stakeholder too. Liz Smith has been a part of the group there,

[Speaker 7] (18:05 - 18:08)
so she will be, she's seen it as well.

[Speaker 8] (18:08 - 18:11)
But Liz is not on the committee,

[Speaker 7] (18:11 - 18:11)
No,

[Speaker 8] (18:11 - 18:15)
and we do have the Water and Sewer. So is the Water and Sewer Committee getting this report?

[Speaker 7] (18:15 - 18:19)
they will get it right when you guys get it as well. Yeah, they're not gonna see it prior to that.

[Speaker 8] (18:19 - 18:19)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (18:20 - 18:26)
You know, Lisa Smith's role was I made her an administrative assistant. She's been involved with it from day one.

[Speaker 8] (18:26 - 18:26)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 7] (18:26 - 18:28)
So it was important for her to see that.

[Speaker 8] (18:29 - 18:30)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (18:30 - 18:32)
Um and then I have a question on

[Speaker 7] (18:34 - 18:35)
Well,

[Speaker 7] (18:35 - 18:35)
can

[Speaker 9] (18:35 - 18:35)
I'm good.

[Speaker 7] (18:35 - 18:36)
we would

[Speaker 9] (18:36 - 18:36)
In the same

[Speaker 7] (18:36 - 18:37)
be appropriate

[Speaker 9] (18:37 - 18:37)
vein?

[Speaker 7] (18:37 - 18:37)
would

[Speaker 9] (18:37 - 18:37)
Go ahead.

[Speaker 7] (18:37 - 18:38)
be yes.

[Speaker 9] (18:38 - 18:38)
Yes,

[Speaker 7] (18:38 - 18:38)
And would

[Speaker 9] (18:38 - 18:38)
please.

[Speaker 7] (18:38 - 18:45)
it be appropriate for us to have that in the next agenda? Is it warrant that level Oh, of yes. yet review at that point?

[Speaker 7] (18:45 - 18:45)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (18:46 - 18:46)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (18:47 - 18:54)
Yeah, I would assume there would be some sort of compilation of information that could be rolled out and a little PowerPoint or something so that we can understand what

[Speaker 7] (18:54 - 18:55)
Yeah, right now

[Speaker 1] (18:55 - 18:55)
we invest

[Speaker 7] (18:55 - 18:55)
it's a thirty

[Speaker 1] (18:55 - 18:55)
it in.

[Speaker 7] (18:55 - 18:56)
two page report.

[Speaker 1] (18:56 - 18:57)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (18:57 - 18:59)
I'm sure I'll forward you all thirty two pages.

[Speaker 8] (19:00 - 19:04)
I'm just wondering if the water and sewer commission should get it first and then

[Speaker 10] (19:04 - 19:04)
Hmm.

[Speaker 8] (19:04 - 19:05)
we jump in after I just

[Speaker 10] (19:05 - 19:06)
Come with a review.

[Speaker 8] (19:06 - 19:08)
Yeah, I think I'll come in after them.

[Speaker 7] (19:10 - 19:10)
It's

[Speaker 8] (19:10 - 19:11)
I mean,

[Speaker 7] (19:11 - 19:11)
basically just facts.

[Speaker 8] (19:11 - 19:12)
whatever.

[Speaker 10] (19:12 - 19:13)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (19:13 - 19:13)
Yeah,

[Speaker 10] (19:13 - 19:13)
Exactly.

[Speaker 1] (19:13 - 19:13)
I

[Speaker 7] (19:13 - 19:13)
The

[Speaker 1] (19:13 - 19:14)
thi I

[Speaker 7] (19:14 - 19:15)
data that we collected.

[Speaker 1] (19:17 - 19:34)
I guess they didn't have much participation in the process. So there may be some reaction to it and they're welcome to comment on it. But I would assume that the folks who sort of facilitated it would be the ones who are presencing it. But we can flush out the details.

[Speaker 7] (19:35 - 19:36)
And the next steps going forward.

[Speaker 1] (19:36 - 19:38)
Yeah, the next steps. Yep.

[Speaker 1] (19:40 - 19:41)
Anything else? You said you had a follow-up.

[Speaker 8] (19:42 - 19:54)
No, I think I'm I'm good. The only um the only question I'm gonna have is with the hiring at what point I mean I think we have to have a discussion at what point on right now where we have a work

[Speaker 2] (20:09 - 20:10)
I think you wanna look the other way.

[Speaker 3] (20:11 - 20:14)
I I think I I was waiting thank you for um

[Speaker 3] (20:14 - 20:27)
I think from my standpoint it would be useful knowing that that's uh something that you'd like to discuss for me to do some research and be able to come in with a recommendation that's backed up by having spoken to both individuals and Mm looking at

[Speaker 1] (20:27 - 20:27)
-hmm.

[Speaker 3] (20:27 - 20:29)
the employment landscape in the area.

[Speaker 1] (20:29 - 20:29)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 3] (20:29 - 20:40)
Um as opposed to dumping dumping into it before we I can do the survey in advance and that way have some information you guys can have an informed discussion about what direction you'd like to like to go in if that works.

[Speaker 1] (20:41 - 20:45)
Whatever works. I just want to have this conversation as soon as possible.

[Speaker 3] (20:45 - 20:46)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (20:47 - 21:04)
Let me get that going. Right, to that point, I mean I just do wanna say that I d I think some background work needs to be done, right, to understand whether it's town accountant, finance director, senior accountant, whatever you wanna call it, right, could be a multitude of things. So I think that if Nick puts some time in to actually

[Speaker 1] (21:05 - 21:19)
understanding our situation and municipalities neighboring you know what they're looking at what they do just so we're sure we get the right actual JD in scope for what we need that makes sense to me structure

[Speaker 4] (21:19 - 21:22)
Yeah, I mean we lost multiple people in that department,

[Speaker 4] (21:22 - 21:32)
so I mean there's when we were the structure maybe now right for analyzing and seeing if it works for you and for us.

[Speaker 4] (21:34 - 21:37)
I think we should just, we need to think about that now more than ever.

[Speaker 1] (21:38 - 21:38)
Sure.

[Speaker 4] (21:38 - 21:38)
So.

[Speaker 5] (21:38 - 21:41)
Yep, supportive and, yeah, I mean I think some background,

[Speaker 5] (21:42 - 21:47)
a memo and then if we can add that to our next, to our next agenda to discuss that, that's fine.

[Speaker 4] (21:48 - 21:48)
Great.

[Speaker 5] (21:49 - 21:49)
Awesome.

[Speaker 4] (21:51 - 21:51)
Okay,

[Speaker 4] (21:51 - 21:55)
one last town administrator report item,

[Speaker 4] (21:55 - 21:56)
if you wouldn't mind,

[Speaker 4] (21:57 - 21:59)
I will take some liberties here to say this will fall under the TA report,

[Speaker 4] (21:59 - 22:02)
which is we have a little presentation of appreciation.

[Speaker 4] (22:04 - 22:08)
Mr. Cresta, for his hard work as interim T.A.,

[Speaker 5] (22:08 - 22:09)
Yes, ma'am.

[Speaker 4] (22:09 - 22:10)
we um

[Speaker 4] (22:18 - 22:26)
um procured a lovely bowl made by the infamous Jean Picarello from a tra the triad of Linscott Park.

[Speaker 6] (22:26 - 22:26)
Oh.

[Speaker 4] (22:26 - 22:32)
So it is both meaningful and beautiful and we want to present this to Gino on behalf of all his hard work.

[Speaker 3] (22:45 - 22:47)
We're on chopping down trees, just to get more bowls.

[Speaker 4] (22:47 - 22:49)
Yeah, well he he can't use the tree warden, so he's

[Speaker 3] (22:49 - 22:49)
I

[Speaker 4] (22:49 - 22:49)
not

[Speaker 3] (22:49 - 22:49)
know.

[Speaker 4] (22:49 - 22:51)
allowed to chop any more down.

[Speaker 1] (22:51 - 22:51)
Do we want to take

[Speaker 4] (22:51 - 22:55)
Oh, we want to take a picture. Diana says we need to take a picture, so let's get a picture.

[Speaker 7] (22:55 - 22:55)
I can see that.

[Speaker 4] (22:56 - 22:56)
The end.

[Speaker 7] (22:56 - 22:57)
I'm tired. Let's take a picture.

[Speaker 5] (22:57 - 22:58)
Let's take a picture.

[Speaker 4] (22:58 - 23:00)
Yeah, for Jodi's newsletter.

[Speaker 1] (23:01 - 23:03)
Katie's gonna put something to fill the bowl.

[Speaker 4] (23:04 - 23:04)
That's right.

[Speaker 1] (23:04 - 23:05)
This is this.

[Speaker 4] (23:05 - 23:05)
So just go after

[Speaker 3] (23:05 - 23:06)
It's

[Speaker 4] (23:06 - 23:06)
somebody.

[Speaker 3] (23:06 - 23:06)
epic

[Speaker 1] (23:06 - 23:06)
I can

[Speaker 3] (23:06 - 23:06)
scenes.

[Speaker 1] (23:06 - 23:06)
hardly wait to

[Speaker 4] (23:06 - 23:06)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (23:06 - 23:07)
bring my

[Speaker 4] (23:07 - 23:07)
exactly.

[Speaker 1] (23:07 - 23:07)
group back tomorrow.

[Speaker 7] (23:08 - 23:08)
See.

[Speaker 1] (23:08 - 23:08)
Thanks.

[Speaker 4] (23:08 - 23:08)
Alright,

[Speaker 4] (23:09 - 23:09)
let's come this way.

[Speaker 3] (23:11 - 23:12)
So back into the Luna on track.

[Speaker 4] (23:15 - 23:15)
Can't

[Speaker 8] (23:18 - 23:18)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (23:18 - 23:19)
Cue the guys.

[Speaker 4] (23:20 - 23:20)
Cue Jen, please.

[Speaker 3] (23:23 - 23:25)
Oh, there's some champagne in the fridge.

[Speaker 4] (23:26 - 23:27)
Perfect. Thank you.

[Speaker 3] (23:27 - 23:28)
No problem.

[Speaker 7] (23:28 - 23:29)
Yes.

[Speaker 4] (23:29 - 23:29)
We don't have to give you a mask.

[Speaker 4] (23:33 - 23:37)
You know where to bring it, he knows where to bring it. The cardboard deck.

[Speaker 3] (23:42 - 23:44)
I don't want to spoil the flow there, but um

[Speaker 3] (23:45 - 23:48)
That last conversation about the positions, maybe I just missed it, but

[Speaker 3] (23:50 - 23:53)
we have a town accountant and assistant town accountant posted,

[Speaker 4] (23:53 - 23:53)
We do.

[Speaker 1] (23:53 - 23:54)
Yes.

[Speaker 3] (23:54 - 24:06)
right, and that last conversation sounded a little bit like we wanted to come back and talk about it next time, about the structure. But meanwhile we have interviews going on. We don't want to slow this down, do we?

[Speaker 7] (24:06 - 24:06)
Well

[Speaker 1] (24:07 - 24:07)
Do we have interviews

[Speaker 4] (24:07 - 24:07)
I

[Speaker 1] (24:07 - 24:08)
going?

[Speaker 4] (24:08 - 24:08)
don't know that we have

[Speaker 3] (24:08 - 24:08)
Well,

[Speaker 4] (24:08 - 24:08)
interviews

[Speaker 3] (24:08 - 24:09)
that's what it says right here.

[Speaker 7] (24:09 - 24:10)
Yeah, we do.

[Speaker 1] (24:11 - 24:11)
We can go.

[Speaker 7] (24:11 - 24:11)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (24:11 - 24:12)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (24:12 - 24:30)
So we can still assess the field, right, and continue the interviews, but that doesn't mean that we're we're hard pressed to state within that confine, because from my understanding I don't think we have a lot of um we've had this open for a considerable amount of time with not a lot of response, right? Oh yeah, I see.

[Speaker 3] (24:30 - 24:31)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (24:31 - 24:37)
But that doesn't mean that we won't necessarily restructure it based on maybe some thoughts from the new T_A_

[Speaker 4] (24:38 - 24:39)
Yeah, I think any time there's

[Speaker 4] (24:41 - 24:52)
a new leader in town that we should reconsider, and if we haven't hired the position then there needs to be a reconsideration. We could talk about it. And if there doesn't need to be and we're all on the same page, then

[Speaker 1] (24:52 - 24:54)
You might be land with one of those anyway, right?

[Speaker 4] (24:54 - 24:54)
Great.

[Speaker 1] (24:54 - 25:00)
You shouldn't stop the process, but just take a fresh set of, fresh set of eyes, take a look at it.

[Speaker 7] (25:02 - 25:02)
Okay. Just

[Speaker 3] (25:03 - 25:08)
I wanna make sure we weren't send mixed messages about like are we continuing or not or you know.

[Speaker 1] (25:09 - 25:16)
And also I forgot to mention this, but I think it would probably make sense to speak to finance for their input, right? Because

[Speaker 3] (25:16 - 25:16)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (25:16 - 25:21)
it supports the finance committee and they have considerable interaction with this role. So

[Speaker 3] (25:21 - 25:21)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (25:21 - 25:23)
that might help also.

[Speaker 4] (25:26 - 25:29)
Okay, um

[Speaker 4] (25:30 - 25:32)
We will now move to public comment.

[Speaker 4] (25:32 - 25:44)
We invite excuse me any person to come up for public comment. Please state your name and your address and then public comment will be limited to three minutes.

[Speaker 4] (25:45 - 25:48)
If some Daniela would you mind taking like just keeping time

[Speaker 1] (25:48 - 25:48)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (25:48 - 25:49)
because my phone.

[Speaker 1] (25:49 - 25:49)
You got it. Yep.

[Speaker 4] (25:52 - 25:53)
We have anybody.

[Speaker 7] (26:03 - 26:06)
Good evening. My name is Louis Sousoulou, 48 Farragut Road,

[Speaker 7] (26:06 - 26:07)
Swampscott.

[Speaker 7] (26:07 - 26:22)
On behalf of the REC Commission and in celebration of Italian Heritage Month on October 19th at the Farmers Market.

[Speaker 7] (26:22 - 26:24)
We will be doing a celebration,

[Speaker 7] (26:24 - 26:30)
tying in an Italian heritage into the farmer's market and doing a celebration.

[Speaker 7] (26:30 - 26:35)
There will be Sicilian arts and crafts for the kids.

[Speaker 7] (26:35 - 26:41)
There will be some Italian vendors that will be showing up to kind of...

[Speaker 7] (26:42 - 26:45)
Have a little of their product on display.

[Speaker 7] (26:45 - 26:50)
There will also be some Italian performers that will be coming to perform.

[Speaker 7] (26:50 - 27:04)
So it's going to be a really, hopefully we get some nice weather and it'll be hopefully a nice day to celebrate Italian heritage and tie it in with the farmers market and kind of wanted to make this announcement so that we could get everybody to come and have a good time and celebrate.

[Speaker 1] (27:04 - 27:04)
Nice.

[Speaker 7] (27:04 - 27:05)
Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (27:05 - 27:06)
Thank you, Mr. Shazula.

[Speaker 4] (27:08 - 27:08)
Ms. Lau.

[Speaker 4] (27:22 - 27:27)
The timer starts. If I could just do my public service announcement for Master Plan Committee,

[Speaker 4] (27:27 - 27:28)
I would appreciate it.

[Speaker 4] (27:31 - 27:32)
Okay,

[Speaker 4] (27:32 - 27:37)
so October 16th is our last open house for Master Plan.

[Speaker 4] (27:37 - 27:39)
It is our third open house.

[Speaker 4] (27:39 - 27:42)
The first one we had, I'd say about 50 people.

[Speaker 4] (27:42 - 27:44)
The second one about 30.

[Speaker 4] (27:44 - 27:47)
So we hope to at least get 80.

[Speaker 1] (27:48 - 28:07)
So if folks could please come out, uh we'd appreciate it. We we didn't have a super robust response to our survey, um so we hope that the couple of surveys that are out there now that are on our, you know, town website uh will be responded to a bit more briskly.

[Speaker 9] (28:08 - 28:13)
I'm going to give my plug that what our community has to say is really important,

[Speaker 9] (28:13 - 28:19)
so I do hope you come to this, and I do know that there's another meeting ahead of it for at six o'clock,

[Speaker 9] (28:19 - 28:28)
ahead of this on October sixteenth for the Glover, so as much participation and everything is is certainly helpful.

[Speaker 9] (28:29 - 28:29)
Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (28:40 - 28:42)
Seeing no additional comments,

[Speaker 4] (28:42 - 28:45)
we will move on to old and new business.

[Speaker 4] (28:45 - 28:57)
The first item on the agenda was climate action and they had some emergency scheduling problems so we are tabling that item until two weeks from now.

[Speaker 4] (28:57 - 29:03)
And in lieu of that I will bump up the conversation on the memo of understanding for the Clark School.

[Speaker 4] (29:04 - 29:06)
So if we could start there,

[Speaker 4] (29:06 - 29:07)
that would be great.

[Speaker 4] (29:09 - 29:12)
Who wants to start? Oh, you guys need a mic, would you mind?

[Speaker 4] (29:14 - 29:16)
Bob would you mind passing your mic back to because I

[Speaker 5] (29:16 - 29:16)
That's

[Speaker 4] (29:16 - 29:17)
think the rec-directors

[Speaker 5] (29:17 - 29:17)
it, we have to be.

[Speaker 4] (29:17 - 29:19)
behind uh you.

[Speaker 5] (29:19 - 29:19)
Oh.

[Speaker 4] (29:19 - 29:20)
Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (29:22 - 29:22)
Perfect.

[Speaker 1] (29:23 - 29:23)
Thanks,

[Speaker 5] (29:23 - 29:23)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (29:23 - 29:24)
everyone.

[Speaker 1] (29:24 - 29:29)
Max Casper, Facilities Director here with Jason Callas, the superintendent.

[Speaker 1] (29:30 - 29:39)
We're back here discussing the MOU between the town and the school department for the recreation use of the Clark building.

[Speaker 1] (29:40 - 29:41)
If you recall,

[Speaker 1] (29:41 - 29:45)
we met almost a year ago on the same subject.

[Speaker 1] (29:45 - 29:49)
We weren't able to finalize it at that time.

[Speaker 1] (30:12 - 30:15)
and happy to answer any any questions on it.

[Speaker 2] (30:20 - 30:26)
Maybe we can just hear from director after if she doesn't mind.

[Speaker 3] (30:26 - 30:26)
Sure.

[Speaker 2] (30:26 - 30:29)
My first time. Welcome.

[Speaker 2] (30:30 - 30:30)
No, I

[Speaker 2] (30:33 - 30:35)
You know, upon becoming the recreation director,

[Speaker 2] (30:35 - 30:37)
I have lofty goals for the program.

[Speaker 2] (30:37 - 30:39)
I have increased programming quite a bit.

[Speaker 2] (30:39 - 30:50)
I know a lot of people have noticed. I've been listening. I held open office hours, and I heard from a lot of residents just about what they have an appetite for.

[Speaker 2] (30:51 - 30:52)
One thing that...

[Speaker 4] (30:52 - 30:54)
Swampscott Recreation has always done really,

[Speaker 4] (30:55 - 30:56)
really well as kids.

[Speaker 4] (30:56 - 30:58)
We have amazing programming for our kids.

[Speaker 4] (30:59 - 31:01)
A lot of it tends to be in the summertime.

[Speaker 4] (31:02 - 31:08)
So that's one thing that I know, you know, we're continuing and we will expand on.

[Speaker 4] (31:09 - 31:14)
Then there's an untapped sort of audience, you know, folks that are.

[Speaker 4] (31:16 - 31:39)
parents of young children that want to get out at night learn something new whether it's a craft or a workshop and then there's you know others you know folks that are a little bit older where the senior center might not be appropriate for them or perhaps they don't think of themselves as a senior where they might be a senior and so I really want to build upon the programming and I need the space to do it I have lofty goals

[Speaker 4] (31:42 - 31:45)
But on the flip side, this would be a test run,

[Speaker 4] (31:45 - 31:45)
right?

[Speaker 4] (31:45 - 31:52)
You know, everyone is excited about it. I'm excited about it. I've heard, you know, people that have seen this on the agenda are super excited about it.

[Speaker 4] (31:52 - 31:54)
The Clark is a perfect location.

[Speaker 4] (31:54 - 31:55)
We're using it already.

[Speaker 4] (31:56 - 31:58)
We've used it in previous years for Park League.

[Speaker 4] (31:58 - 32:06)
I've used it, thanks to the Jason and the team for allowing me to use it for the Jewish holidays when school was closed.

[Speaker 4] (32:06 - 32:08)
We had 52 kids in there for Yom Kippur.

[Speaker 4] (32:08 - 32:13)
I'm Kapoor. We had 24 in there for Rosh Hashanah, so there's a great,

[Speaker 4] (32:14 - 32:15)
and I haven't even gone to the second floor.

[Speaker 4] (32:15 - 32:16)
That's just on the first floor.

[Speaker 4] (32:17 - 32:27)
Some ideas that I would like to host in there would be, you know, ongoing clubs and classes Friday nights where kids can go and hang out.

[Speaker 4] (32:28 - 32:34)
One of the ideas that came up on Facebook from my sort of impromptu poll was when DPW floods.

[Speaker 4] (32:34 - 32:42)
you know to make an ice skating rink let's open up the gym and have concessions in their games you know I

[Speaker 4] (32:43 - 32:47)
You know, came into this job with really big ideas, as many of you know,

[Speaker 4] (32:47 - 32:49)
and I want to continue to do that, but I need the space to expand.

[Speaker 4] (32:50 - 32:54)
The rec assistant role will help me do that, of course,

[Speaker 4] (32:55 - 32:58)
you know, helping with programming and even staffing some of these.

[Speaker 4] (32:59 - 32:59)
But,

[Speaker 4] (32:59 - 33:02)
you know, I'm excited at the idea of it.

[Speaker 4] (33:02 - 33:08)
I wouldn't say that I'm, you know, a little cautious, of course, but, you know, we won't know what we won't know until we give it a try.

[Speaker 4] (33:09 - 33:09)
And I think that.

[Speaker 4] (33:09 - 33:13)
that the town, we're really lucky that we have a space like this to use,

[Speaker 4] (33:13 - 33:16)
and I know that people would like to use it.

[Speaker 4] (33:17 - 33:21)
So I think in partnership with the schools, I think we'll be able to accomplish that.

[Speaker 4] (33:22 - 33:27)
And I think I'm a great tenant for the schools versus giving it to an outside group.

[Speaker 4] (33:28 - 33:34)
I think keeping it in the town and benefiting the residents of this town is probably our number one goal,

[Speaker 4] (33:34 - 33:36)
and I think I can do that.

[Speaker 4] (33:36 - 33:39)
that uh and you know I would love to I'd love to use that.

[Speaker 2] (33:40 - 33:41)
Great, thank you.

[Speaker 2] (33:43 - 33:47)
So the MOU is short and sweet.

[Speaker 2] (33:47 - 33:49)
Does anybody have any questions? David.

[Speaker 1] (33:49 - 33:57)
Yeah. Yeah, a few questions. It talks about the town will pay all utility costs associated with the main Clark School building.

[Speaker 1] (33:57 - 33:57)
Max,

[Speaker 1] (33:57 - 34:01)
can you give us that that number for for last year?

[Speaker 1] (34:01 - 34:02)
What that what that entails?

[Speaker 1] (34:04 - 34:12)
I can. Obviously, the number is dependent on how it is used.

[Speaker 1] (34:12 - 34:13)
So, you know, two years ago,

[Speaker 1] (34:13 - 34:23)
the building was used as a school and there's a certain amount of utility costs and then last year it was a vacant building.

[Speaker 1] (34:23 - 34:24)
If you hold on.

[Speaker 1] (34:24 - 34:29)
Two minutes, I'll give you um both total numbers um

[Speaker 2] (34:29 - 34:30)
I have some Max numbers.

[Speaker 5] (34:30 - 34:35)
I looked on M_E_I_ for is that accurate, the two the bills for Aversource and Grid that are entered?

[Speaker 1] (34:35 - 34:39)
Uh it it probably is does it have dollar values on them as well?

[Speaker 5] (34:39 - 34:39)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (34:39 - 34:45)
We we also compiled them recently while we were um discussing it with Charlotte.

[Speaker 1] (34:46 - 34:47)
Charlotte, you should you have that

[Speaker 4] (34:47 - 34:47)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (34:47 - 34:47)
handy?

[Speaker 4] (34:47 - 34:52)
Yeah. So um F_ Y_ twenty five numbers are thirty six thousand nine hundred and fifty two.

[Speaker 4] (34:52 - 35:00)
and FY24 and to Max's point that's when the school was being used for roughly half of the year that's $48,279

[Speaker 6] (35:02 - 35:09)
So are you saying that for utilities last year when the building was empty, you paid just short of thirty seven?

[Speaker 4] (35:11 - 35:11)
Yep.

[Speaker 6] (35:12 - 35:13)
And what about maintenance?

[Speaker 6] (35:16 - 35:16)
What did you have to

[Speaker 7] (35:16 - 35:16)
School

[Speaker 6] (35:16 - 35:17)
pay for maintenance?

[Speaker 7] (35:17 - 35:19)
department still covering the maintenance. But what was the

[Speaker 6] (35:19 - 35:22)
What did you what did you have to oh so the school you're saying

[Speaker 2] (35:22 - 35:22)
Yeah,

[Speaker 6] (35:22 - 35:22)
the school

[Speaker 2] (35:22 - 35:22)
the

[Speaker 6] (35:22 - 35:22)
department

[Speaker 2] (35:22 - 35:22)
district

[Speaker 6] (35:22 - 35:22)
will take it

[Speaker 2] (35:22 - 35:23)
will maintain

[Speaker 6] (35:23 - 35:23)
Okay,

[Speaker 2] (35:23 - 35:23)
existing

[Speaker 6] (35:23 - 35:24)
so the only thing

[Speaker 2] (35:24 - 35:24)
building

[Speaker 6] (35:24 - 35:24)
we're it

[Speaker 2] (35:24 - 35:24)
systems.

[Speaker 6] (35:24 - 35:33)
the only thing we're talking so you you would absolutely so you would have 36 36 9 in your current budget to cover this year at least

[Speaker 1] (35:34 - 35:35)
You're talking to the school department?

[Speaker 6] (35:35 - 35:36)
Yes

[Speaker 7] (35:38 - 35:42)
This was not we did not budget for utilities for this year.

[Speaker 6] (35:42 - 35:44)
Who so what was the plan on paying the utilities?

[Speaker 7] (35:45 - 35:57)
Well there were two plans. There was the ideal plan which was happening, hopefully that direct power takes it over, but if not we were gonna put it out to bid to see if there was an outside agency that was interested in that facility.

[Speaker 6] (35:58 - 36:03)
So you're saying that school school schools had absolutely no plan, you put nothing in the budget to pay for utilities, you were just gonna

[Speaker 7] (36:04 - 36:04)
Just

[Speaker 6] (36:04 - 36:04)
hope

[Speaker 7] (36:04 - 36:04)
like

[Speaker 6] (36:04 - 36:07)
hope hope that you could rent it out.

[Speaker 7] (36:07 - 36:09)
Well we have a lot of interest in renting it out,

[Speaker 6] (36:09 - 36:09)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (36:09 - 36:11)
so I think we were pretty confident that we could rent it out if need be.

[Speaker 6] (36:11 - 36:12)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (36:12 - 36:14)
Uh but we were trying to be fiscally responsible in that

[Speaker 7] (36:15 - 36:26)
The idea was by at least this time we'd have it rented out, worst you know worst case scenario in November or whatever. Um and we didn't want to budget for something that wasn't going to be utilised.

[Speaker 5] (36:28 - 36:36)
Okay, but to Mary Ellen's point, I mean, someone's paying the bills right now, right? Schools are paying right now, right? So that's a kind of a negative in your budget

[Speaker 8] (36:36 - 36:36)
In

[Speaker 5] (36:36 - 36:37)
then?

[Speaker 8] (36:37 - 36:37)
funding.

[Speaker 7] (36:38 - 36:39)
It is currently, but

[Speaker 5] (36:40 - 36:40)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (36:40 - 36:50)
if like hypothetically s I don't want this to happen, I want the rec department to use it, but if not, we we have people that are interested. So that was always there we knew that people were interested,

[Speaker 5] (36:50 - 36:50)
You

[Speaker 7] (36:50 - 36:50)
Mike

[Speaker 5] (36:50 - 36:50)
know I've and just been

[Speaker 7] (36:50 - 36:50)
I

[Speaker 5] (36:50 - 36:50)
talking

[Speaker 7] (36:50 - 36:50)
would meet

[Speaker 5] (36:50 - 36:50)
about this

[Speaker 7] (36:50 - 36:50)
with you

[Speaker 5] (36:50 - 36:52)
five months that have already happened, right?

[Speaker 5] (36:53 - 36:53)
Do your

[Speaker 1] (36:53 - 36:53)
So I think

[Speaker 6] (36:53 - 36:54)
Well, July.

[Speaker 1] (36:54 - 36:56)
we reviewed this with with Cheryl.

[Speaker 5] (36:56 - 36:56)
I have a lot.

[Speaker 1] (36:56 - 37:00)
At the time that the school department's budget was developed,

[Speaker 1] (37:00 - 37:04)
there was an expectation that Clark was going to be occupied.

[Speaker 1] (37:05 - 37:10)
most at that time by the by the rec department now there was

[Speaker 5] (37:10 - 37:10)
By

[Speaker 1] (37:10 - 37:10)
also just

[Speaker 5] (37:10 - 37:10)
July 1.

[Speaker 1] (37:11 - 37:17)
well yeah i mean we had an mou last year that was going to begin in the in the fall for the rec department

[Speaker 6] (37:17 - 37:18)
But that got shot down.

[Speaker 6] (37:19 - 37:19)
Right.

[Speaker 6] (37:19 - 37:21)
So I don't, I

[Speaker 7] (37:21 - 37:21)
But we create an

[Speaker 6] (37:21 - 37:21)
mean

[Speaker 7] (37:21 - 37:21)
it's operating

[Speaker 6] (37:21 - 37:31)
news to me that, it's news to me that, I'm happy because as you know I was very supportive this last year, but it's news to me that this was even on a possibility.

[Speaker 6] (37:32 - 37:35)
So, that w why would it be news to you though? It

[Speaker 2] (37:35 - 37:35)
It's

[Speaker 6] (37:35 - 37:40)
was your idea a year ago. It's my idea a year ago, but it was shot down so why would I think it was But coming it was back

[Speaker 4] (37:40 - 37:41)
shot down by a former

[Speaker 6] (37:41 - 37:41)
so

[Speaker 4] (37:41 - 37:47)
Rec Director who didn't have the authority to shoot it down. So why wouldn't it be revisited with a new T_A_ and a new Rec Director?

[Speaker 6] (37:49 - 37:55)
It's news to me that this is this is news. So they they had information. I don't have the information. I'm happy that we're having this discussion.

[Speaker 6] (37:55 - 37:57)
I just want to make sure that

[Speaker 6] (37:58 - 38:04)
You know, we have a really clear plan and that the revolving account isn't, you know,

[Speaker 6] (38:04 - 38:15)
put in a in a tough situation. I mean that was the big thing that was brought forward last year and you know, I respect that. I respect um the recreation what the recreation director had to say last year. So

[Speaker 9] (38:16 - 38:19)
Well, and also just I just want to be clear. It's a simple question.

[Speaker 9] (38:20 - 38:23)
Who's paying for the utilities for the first five months of this year?

[Speaker 1] (38:24 - 38:24)
The Right school now department.

[Speaker 6] (38:24 - 38:25)
the school department.

[Speaker 9] (38:25 - 38:27)
That you didn't have a budget for.

[Speaker 6] (38:27 - 38:27)
And

[Speaker 1] (38:27 - 38:27)
Right.

[Speaker 6] (38:27 - 38:28)
you speak for my

[Speaker 9] (38:28 - 38:28)
That's

[Speaker 6] (38:28 - 38:28)
Montessori.

[Speaker 9] (38:28 - 38:28)
okay,

[Speaker 6] (38:28 - 38:29)
For something that you're not using.

[Speaker 7] (38:30 - 38:30)
Okay, correct.

[Speaker 6] (38:30 - 38:31)
Correct.

[Speaker 7] (38:31 - 38:33)
Okay. Because at the time we thought

[Speaker 9] (38:33 - 38:34)
I get

[Speaker 7] (38:34 - 38:39)
that it. at the time we set the budget we thought that it would be utilized right now either by rec or by somebody from the outside.

[Speaker 6] (38:39 - 38:45)
Which the time you did the budget for this year was probably February, March of last year when this was a

[Speaker 7] (38:46 - 38:46)
I did

[Speaker 4] (38:46 - 38:47)
Done deal,

[Speaker 7] (38:47 - 38:47)
I did

[Speaker 4] (38:47 - 38:47)
right?

[Speaker 7] (38:47 - 38:48)
you need more than that? Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (38:48 - 38:51)
Yeah, which was pretty much a done deal

[Speaker 7] (38:51 - 38:51)
Yeah,

[Speaker 4] (38:51 - 38:51)
on on

[Speaker 1] (38:51 - 38:51)
Yeah, I both think

[Speaker 4] (38:51 - 38:51)
these

[Speaker 1] (38:51 - 38:52)
we decided

[Speaker 4] (38:52 - 38:52)
some by

[Speaker 7] (38:52 - 38:52)
sides

[Speaker 1] (38:52 - 38:52)
that

[Speaker 4] (38:52 - 38:52)
some

[Speaker 1] (38:52 - 38:52)
at the exact

[Speaker 4] (38:52 - 38:53)
people's

[Speaker 1] (38:53 - 38:53)
point.

[Speaker 4] (38:53 - 38:53)
expense.

[Speaker 1] (38:53 - 38:56)
Like the budget actually begins to be developed in

[Speaker 4] (38:56 - 38:56)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (38:56 - 38:58)
November of

[Speaker 4] (38:58 - 39:00)
So why would you anticipate having to budget for it? You wouldn't.

[Speaker 1] (39:01 - 39:01)
That's the point, yes.

[Speaker 4] (39:01 - 39:02)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (39:02 - 39:05)
And if we did budget for it, and then somebody

[Speaker 4] (39:05 - 39:06)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (39:06 - 39:06)
else took it over,

[Speaker 4] (39:07 - 39:07)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (39:07 - 39:08)
then it looks like we're not.

[Speaker 7] (39:11 - 39:11)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (39:12 - 39:13)
Okay,

[Speaker 2] (39:13 - 39:13)
Yeah, I mean

[Speaker 1] (39:13 - 39:13)
I don't

[Speaker 2] (39:13 - 39:13)
in

[Speaker 1] (39:13 - 39:13)
know.

[Speaker 2] (39:13 - 39:15)
a way it's sort of in my opinion a

[Speaker 6] (39:15 - 39:15)
What

[Speaker 2] (39:15 - 39:16)
little bit

[Speaker 6] (39:16 - 39:16)
talk what's

[Speaker 2] (39:16 - 39:16)
a

[Speaker 6] (39:16 - 39:16)
a word?

[Speaker 2] (39:16 - 39:18)
little bit of a red herring right like because

[Speaker 2] (39:19 - 39:36)
we're talking about it because people want to know like is it in your budget if it's in your budget then why should rec have to pay for it but it's not so and rec is willing to come to the table I'm I'm sure that this is only a one-year MOU so if

[Speaker 4] (39:37 - 39:44)
The worst, I guess the worst thing that could happen is there are zero dollars added to rec departments budget.

[Speaker 1] (40:09 - 40:15)
See if it works out and I mean we could even come back in six months and have a projection of or

[Speaker 2] (40:15 - 40:15)
Well,

[Speaker 1] (40:15 - 40:15)
not

[Speaker 2] (40:15 - 40:33)
at the at the time at the time last year, the the director of finance said that we could anticipate forty thousand, but that really would probably be an understatement, but that the revolving account should be able to um sustain sixty thousand dollars without really

[Speaker 2] (40:34 - 40:43)
you know, feeling any type of pinch. So that's what the Finance Director said last year that she felt that the cushion to to try it last year was there.

[Speaker 3] (40:44 - 40:46)
Okay, I'm getting more and more confused

[Speaker 4] (40:46 - 40:46)
Me

[Speaker 3] (40:46 - 40:52)
as we talk about this. So the idea sounds great, okay, uh in a vacuum.

[Speaker 3] (40:53 - 40:56)
But is is the revolving fund paying for this?

[Speaker 2] (40:57 - 40:57)
Yet

[Speaker 3] (40:57 - 40:58)
I didn't even hear that.

[Speaker 5] (40:58 - 40:59)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (40:59 - 40:59)
yes.

[Speaker 1] (40:59 - 41:00)
Yeah, then that's the only

[Speaker 5] (41:00 - 41:00)
Correct.

[Speaker 1] (41:00 - 41:00)
the s they

[Speaker 3] (41:00 - 41:01)
Well, it don't doesn't

[Speaker 1] (41:01 - 41:01)
have this

[Speaker 3] (41:01 - 41:01)
say that.

[Speaker 1] (41:01 - 41:02)
much in their line item.

[Speaker 5] (41:02 - 41:02)
Mm.

[Speaker 3] (41:02 - 41:07)
Well, that but doesn't say it. I mean, I don't know I'm just kind of inferring that that's

[Speaker 2] (41:07 - 41:07)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (41:07 - 41:08)
what happened.

[Speaker 2] (41:08 - 41:08)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (41:08 - 41:12)
Is that the plan? Okay, so I didn't hear that. Um

[Speaker 3] (41:13 - 41:21)
Are we expecting programming to pay for that? Or I I mean I don't have no financial understanding of what's happening.

[Speaker 1] (41:22 - 41:22)
Have

[Speaker 3] (41:22 - 41:22)
I mean,

[Speaker 1] (41:22 - 41:27)
you do do we ever have a financial understanding of what's going on with Rec Revolving to be quite honest?

[Speaker 3] (41:27 - 41:27)
But that's

[Speaker 1] (41:27 - 41:27)
I don't

[Speaker 3] (41:27 - 41:28)
that's

[Speaker 1] (41:28 - 41:30)
think we have that's in the past, but my question would be

[Speaker 6] (41:30 - 41:30)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (41:30 - 41:31)
it kind of is uh

[Speaker 3] (41:31 - 41:35)
Well, we had we're starting new. So I just it seems like a reason a thing to ask,

[Speaker 6] (41:35 - 41:35)
I I guess it's

[Speaker 1] (41:35 - 41:35)
and my question

[Speaker 6] (41:35 - 41:35)
like we're

[Speaker 1] (41:35 - 41:39)
would be what is the balance in the Rec Revolving? Does anybody happen to know that answer?

[Speaker 3] (41:39 - 41:42)
Well, I asked the question first, Danielle, with all due respect, okay?

[Speaker 1] (41:42 - 41:42)
Oh.

[Speaker 3] (41:42 - 41:42)
It's just

[Speaker 6] (41:42 - 41:42)
I straight mean,

[Speaker 3] (41:42 - 41:42)
forward

[Speaker 6] (41:42 - 41:43)
yes,

[Speaker 3] (41:43 - 41:43)
question.

[Speaker 6] (41:43 - 41:43)
the idea

[Speaker 7] (41:43 - 41:43)
Right.

[Speaker 6] (41:43 - 41:45)
is the idea is

[Speaker 1] (41:45 - 41:46)
It goes right to your question, Doug.

[Speaker 6] (41:46 - 41:47)
the idea is that

[Speaker 1] (41:48 - 41:52)
The Rec Revolving Fund would essentially pay the utilities for this,

[Speaker 1] (41:52 - 41:59)
you know, in turn from, you know, costs from programs, you know, or proceeds from programs, rather.

[Speaker 1] (41:59 - 42:03)
So the idea is to fill programming,

[Speaker 1] (42:04 - 42:09)
you know, much more than we have in the past, and that way we would, you know, utilize the building.

[Speaker 1] (42:09 - 42:11)
It's not to say, though,

[Speaker 1] (42:11 - 42:13)
and I think this was Katie, to Katie's point,

[Speaker 1] (42:13 - 42:15)
if in six months, you know,

[Speaker 1] (42:16 - 42:42)
We've just we've said okay you know we've got some great programming going on but it's not yielding as much money then we can think about and revisit I'm sure there are and I don't know this and maybe this is for a further discussion but there could be possibilities of utilizing the building with other departments and town departments you know whether if the senior center ever needed overflow space or whatever if there was ever a need.

[Speaker 1] (42:42 - 42:52)
But I guess my sort of my dream for this space is to hold onto it super tight and fill it with amazing programming that benefits everyone in this town.

[Speaker 1] (42:53 - 42:56)
And that's what a lot of rec departments have.

[Speaker 1] (42:56 - 43:02)
They have a space to call home that where they can have programming. And is it risky?

[Speaker 1] (43:02 - 43:02)
Sure.

[Speaker 1] (43:03 - 43:05)
But is it going to, to Mary Ellen's point,

[Speaker 1] (43:06 - 43:09)
is it going to strap my budget down to nothing?

[Speaker 1] (43:09 - 43:10)
No.

[Speaker 1] (43:10 - 43:21)
And so I feel very strongly that, you know, we should give it a try and that, you know, I feel that, you know, the town would really benefit from it.

[Speaker 2] (43:22 - 43:32)
Have you um have you put together like a pro forma of what you think as far as programs just to give yourself a little bit of comfort you know?

[Speaker 1] (43:33 - 43:44)
I have an idea of what it would take from, so you know, Rec has two types of programming, in-house programming that we make the most profits off of, so meaning we have someone who we hire,

[Speaker 1] (43:44 - 43:46)
could be a town employee already,

[Speaker 1] (43:46 - 43:47)
you know, we have some great

[Speaker 1] (43:48 - 44:15)
folks that not town employee but someone that we employ to run classes like our nature art class is an amazing class we really like it we make great profit off of those but then we have others like chess and robotics where we bring in folks those ones have a less less of a profit because you know we're bringing outside folks so my goal would be to have a combination of the two you know I can look up what you know what we yielded from just those three days of

[Speaker 1] (44:15 - 44:33)
of from the no school days and just just to give an example but you know obviously doing the math I would want to come up with as much program as possible to at least cover the utilities I don't have I don't have that prepared yet Mary Ellen but I but I would for sure

[Speaker 2] (44:33 - 44:39)
I mean because it sounds like the only options here are sounds like the options are you

[Speaker 2] (44:40 - 44:55)
issue a issue it to another uh another entity, you know I know Lynn school was interested at one point, someone brought that up, I don't know who else you have, or we try to take it over ourselves and and um get something going, which

[Speaker 2] (44:56 - 45:06)
I think I think if you put together some type of a pro-forma, you might be able to minimise you know what your stress is really going to be and

[Speaker 2] (45:07 - 45:11)
you know make people feel a little bit more comfortable.

[Speaker 8] (45:12 - 45:12)
Sure.

[Speaker 2] (45:12 - 45:13)
I So, know that was a lot of stress,

[Speaker 1] (45:13 - 45:14)
I think,

[Speaker 2] (45:14 - 45:14)
Danielle.

[Speaker 1] (45:14 - 45:19)
um does any, do you, Charlotte, do you know the balance of the rec revolving account?

[Speaker 8] (45:20 - 45:23)
Um yes, I just got it to answer, yeah, hold on one second.

[Speaker 9] (45:23 - 45:23)
Thanks, Katie.

[Speaker 1] (45:30 - 45:30)
David, in the meantime.

[Speaker 10] (45:31 - 45:33)
Yeah, no, in the mi in the meantime, qualitatively I'm

[Speaker 10] (45:34 - 45:56)
supportive of supportive of this I think it I think increased programming for kids adults seniors overflow I think that's great for me to get comfortable here I just want to see some of the numbers I know that you know I know when the town invested in standout paddleboards for instance I don't believe the rec department you know has recouped that cost

[Speaker 10] (45:56 - 46:00)
through through programming as of yet and I think that was

[Speaker 2] (46:00 - 46:01)
They absolutely have.

[Speaker 10] (46:01 - 46:02)
I don't I don't I don't believe

[Speaker 2] (46:02 - 46:02)
Well,

[Speaker 10] (46:02 - 46:02)
they have

[Speaker 2] (46:02 - 46:04)
we can look we'll look at I the minutes.

[Speaker 10] (46:04 - 46:05)
I don't I don't I don't believe they have but

[Speaker 2] (46:05 - 46:05)
Okay.

[Speaker 10] (46:05 - 46:21)
I'm just my concern is I just want to see the numbers we can put this on our next agenda and take a and take a look I would feel comfortable having that quantitative analysis because I do want to make sure that you know this this wreck revolving account is

[Speaker 10] (46:22 - 46:27)
is preserved. I know we have new leadership. I know we have a new recreation director.

[Speaker 10] (46:28 - 46:28)
Again,

[Speaker 10] (46:28 - 46:30)
supportive of the qualitative nature.

[Speaker 10] (46:30 - 46:39)
I just think a little bit more work needs to be done so we have a better understanding of what those numbers are for this programming.

[Speaker 10] (46:39 - 46:43)
That's going to be a whole lot of programming to cover these utility costs,

[Speaker 10] (46:43 - 46:45)
which more or less is $40,000.

[Speaker 2] (46:46 - 46:49)
As the liaison to REC, I can answer that question.

[Speaker 2] (46:49 - 46:50)
Mary Ellen is correct,

[Speaker 2] (46:50 - 46:53)
they have recouped that from the stand-up paddle boards.

[Speaker 2] (46:54 - 46:56)
I have already, as the REC liaison,

[Speaker 2] (46:56 - 46:58)
I have already vetted that.

[Speaker 2] (46:58 - 47:01)
That's something I looked into maybe four months ago,

[Speaker 2] (47:01 - 47:02)
honestly.

[Speaker 2] (47:03 - 47:08)
And I've been involved with this because I am the liaison. So to your point for that one,

[Speaker 2] (47:08 - 47:08)
for the stand

[Speaker 3] (47:08 - 47:08)
Sure.

[Speaker 2] (47:08 - 47:09)
-up paddle boards,

[Speaker 2] (47:09 - 47:11)
that is something Mary Ellen is accurate about.

[Speaker 3] (47:11 - 47:11)
Okay.

[Speaker 11] (47:13 - 47:21)
I do think that it's a constant theme in this town that we're running out of space. We're running out of space for senior activities.

[Speaker 11] (47:22 - 47:32)
We have families and parents and people in town craving more recreation, more programming. You know, we did something so simple as flooding the field at Clark.

[Speaker 11] (47:33 - 47:48)
to go ice skating and people were through the roof, right? I think if you ask anyone in this town, they are dying to do more things. Take a look at the flag football league from the summer that had over 70 people participate in probably a 30-day window,

[Speaker 11] (47:48 - 47:48)
right?

[Speaker 11] (47:49 - 47:54)
So I don't think this is a stretch is what I'm trying to say. And the last thing that I personally want to see is

[Speaker 11] (47:55 - 48:12)
the school department or anyone have to go put this out to R_F_P_ and have people from other towns have to come in and utilise something that is ours that we potentially will want to use in the future, be it for a community centre, a senior centre, uh

[Speaker 11] (48:12 - 48:32)
the middle school whatever affordable housing right we talked about using it for for the housing department so the last thing I want to see is is and I hate to sound this way but someone come in outside of town and have a use for it when we have a use that we have spoken about for years this rec director the former rec director

[Speaker 11] (48:33 - 49:00)
constantly used to would beat the drum of we don't have a space and in absolutely true to both of their points right I you know I often felt badly for the former rec director because she was always looking for a home you know she she had to use storage space she had to use reach arts like whatever she could find so now we have that we have that option we had it last year we were pretty much ready to pull the trigger last year and you know why we would not do it again I don't know so

[Speaker 11] (49:01 - 49:02)
That's my take.

[Speaker 3] (49:02 - 49:08)
Well I suppose, I mean that that's maybe like one of the questions which is that we do we already do have recharge.

[Speaker 3] (49:09 - 49:30)
And so when we don't really have a sense exactly of how much programming space we need, it we one could say well we already have that building why do we need to why does the town need to take on utility costs and the maintenance around Clark if maybe all we need is recharge. Maybe we maybe we need a lot more, that's great. It was just

[Speaker 3] (49:30 - 49:39)
just be good to kind of just get a sense of, you know, what is the volume of programming that we're thinking about and do we do we think that we're in the realm of

[Speaker 2] (49:45 - 49:46)
Sure.

[Speaker 1] (49:46 - 49:46)
about you know.

[Speaker 3] (49:46 - 49:47)
I mean, o I well think o

[Speaker 4] (49:47 - 49:47)
oh

[Speaker 3] (49:47 - 49:50)
some of the I mean some of the activities just can't be done every chart. Like

[Speaker 4] (49:50 - 49:50)
No.

[Speaker 3] (49:50 - 49:54)
pick up like pick a ball like uh um like uh any sort of interact

[Speaker 4] (49:54 - 49:54)
Gymnasium,

[Speaker 3] (49:54 - 49:55)
inclusive

[Speaker 4] (49:55 - 49:55)
most all.

[Speaker 3] (49:55 - 50:01)
gymnasium activities like re-charts will never be the answer 'cause it doesn't have a gym, right? So

[Speaker 1] (50:01 - 50:02)
Okay, I had no idea.

[Speaker 1] (50:02 - 50:02)
Yeah.

[Speaker 5] (50:02 - 50:02)
Mm.

[Speaker 1] (50:03 - 50:05)
It sounds like you know what the activities are. I have no

[Speaker 3] (50:05 - 50:05)
Well

[Speaker 1] (50:05 - 50:05)
idea

[Speaker 3] (50:05 - 50:05)
no,

[Speaker 1] (50:05 - 50:05)
what

[Speaker 3] (50:05 - 50:06)
I just

[Speaker 1] (50:06 - 50:06)
those are.

[Speaker 3] (50:06 - 50:23)
heard I mean I saw if you saw on Facebook Charlotte put out a call for ideas for what future rec directory could do and one person wrote and then 57 people commented below Pickleball, indoor pickleball during the winter. So I so that's a great clerk would be a great space for that. It's not 24 hour Pickleball inside.

[Speaker 5] (50:23 - 50:23)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (50:23 - 50:25)
But and so

[Speaker 5] (50:25 - 50:25)
We'll

[Speaker 3] (50:25 - 50:25)
and

[Speaker 5] (50:25 - 50:25)
make our numbers.

[Speaker 3] (50:25 - 50:28)
and quite frankly those are all people who have

[Speaker 3] (50:29 - 50:32)
potential ability to pay for pickleball. So

[Speaker 6] (50:32 - 50:32)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (50:32 - 50:41)
that's a great way for us to facilitate a need of the community and also a need of the school and also pay first.

[Speaker 6] (50:42 - 50:43)
I mean one other thing to note,

[Speaker 6] (50:43 - 50:48)
we actually had to go outside last year for third and fourth grade.

[Speaker 6] (50:49 - 50:57)
basketball that the rec program ran and we had to actually sublet space from Salem State because we did not have enough gym space in this town.

[Speaker 6] (50:57 - 51:06)
So parents had to cart their kids over to Salem State where we paid for space and probably took a loss on a program when we have a gymnasium that we could utilize to run that this year.

[Speaker 6] (51:07 - 51:08)
So that, I mean, that

[Speaker 1] (51:08 - 51:09)
I mean,

[Speaker 6] (51:09 - 51:09)
was

[Speaker 1] (51:09 - 51:09)
I know

[Speaker 6] (51:09 - 51:09)
thousands

[Speaker 1] (51:09 - 51:09)
200%

[Speaker 6] (51:09 - 51:10)
of dollars worth

[Speaker 1] (51:10 - 51:10)
more than

[Speaker 6] (51:10 - 51:10)
of

[Speaker 1] (51:10 - 51:10)
I

[Speaker 6] (51:10 - 51:10)
fudge.

[Speaker 1] (51:10 - 51:12)
knew two minutes ago right now, but

[Speaker 7] (51:12 - 51:12)
I

[Speaker 6] (51:12 - 51:12)
Yeah, I thought.

[Speaker 1] (51:12 - 51:12)
just

[Speaker 3] (51:12 - 51:13)
yeah, I mean, I just think

[Speaker 1] (51:13 - 51:13)
just

[Speaker 7] (51:13 - 51:13)
I

[Speaker 3] (51:13 - 51:13)
I

[Speaker 1] (51:13 - 51:14)
a little

[Speaker 7] (51:14 - 51:14)
think

[Speaker 1] (51:14 - 51:14)
outline,

[Speaker 7] (51:14 - 51:14)
it's I think

[Speaker 1] (51:14 - 51:14)
you know,

[Speaker 7] (51:14 - 51:15)
it's simple

[Speaker 1] (51:15 - 51:15)
I

[Speaker 7] (51:15 - 51:18)
I think that we just turn around and take a forecasted burn rate

[Speaker 7] (51:18 - 51:26)
Charlotte looks and looks in to her magic bag of tricks there and says these are the programs I think I can run.

[Speaker 7] (51:27 - 51:36)
You might even have somebody in town that wants to sponsor a room for an art room or something like that. There's a lot of different things so I think we

[Speaker 3] (51:36 - 51:36)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (51:36 - 51:40)
could go back if we could come back with a pro forma I'm happy to put some elbow grease into this.

[Speaker 7] (51:40 - 51:41)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (51:41 - 51:41)
Yep.

[Speaker 3] (51:41 - 51:43)
Okay, great. So,

[Speaker 8] (51:43 - 51:44)
I can just answer the question

[Speaker 3] (51:44 - 51:44)
oh

[Speaker 8] (51:44 - 51:44)
about

[Speaker 3] (51:44 - 51:45)
thank you.

[Speaker 8] (51:45 - 51:46)
what is in the rec revolving.

[Speaker 7] (51:47 - 51:47)
Thanks.

[Speaker 8] (51:47 - 51:50)
It's 276-978.

[Speaker 6] (51:51 - 51:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (51:51 - 51:53)
So that's after,

[Speaker 8] (51:53 - 51:54)
so just so you,

[Speaker 8] (51:54 - 52:00)
this number gets quite large in the summer because of all the amazing programming that happens,

[Speaker 8] (52:00 - 52:01)
park league and things like that.

[Speaker 1] (52:01 - 52:01)
Yep.

[Speaker 8] (52:01 - 52:02)
So the number,

[Speaker 8] (52:02 - 52:03)
I talked to Patrick today,

[Speaker 8] (52:03 - 52:06)
the number tends to be a little bit lower right now and then it...

[Speaker 8] (52:06 - 52:31)
continues to grow obviously as the as the as the time goes on but I guess just to everyone's point on the programming I will come back to you with ideas of what I think could be I can even try to forecast what the cost I thought about Recharts Recharts was actually like I was like feeling really great about Recharts but then a couple things I will have it for less time

[Speaker 8] (52:32 - 52:49)
based on Pine Street and I would hate to make a home and then get evicted from that home relatively quickly and it's it's not entirely accessible where Clark is which is great and I like the outdoor space so during our

[Speaker 8] (52:50 - 53:15)
our recent no school days kids were able to have lunch outside they got to go out for recess which was really fun because the slime workshop went from 9 a.m to 3 p.m which parents loved because essentially it was a full school day but they got to go outside for recess they had lunch outside and so you kind of can't beat Clark for all of those reasons we're doing out learn to roller skate is happening at Clark right now that's happening on the hot top

[Speaker 8] (53:16 - 53:31)
There's a lot of things you can do at Clark that, you know, free charts would would not be able to, but I I did think about it. I I also thought about just walking away from it, but my conscious I I really couldn't. I just feel like it's we just give it gotta give it a try, um so.

[Speaker 6] (53:32 - 53:43)
And we have a rec committee meeting next week, and during that meeting we will get more input too from the other the rec committee members and what their thoughts are and we'll put together a list of programming and

[Speaker 6] (53:43 - 53:45)
Bring it back for the next agenda.

[Speaker 7] (53:45 - 53:55)
Nick, can you find out what the legality as far as if we wanted to issue an RFP to possibly rent out a room there to have a sponsor,

[Speaker 7] (53:55 - 53:56)
say,

[Speaker 7] (53:56 - 54:02)
you know, Katie's gas station wants to sponsor.

[Speaker 7] (54:03 - 54:06)
two rooms and just donate those rooms

[Speaker 3] (54:06 - 54:06)
I'll let them

[Speaker 7] (54:06 - 54:06)
for

[Speaker 3] (54:06 - 54:06)
know.

[Speaker 7] (54:06 - 54:10)
two months for arts and crafts or something like And that.

[Speaker 1] (54:10 - 54:10)
I

[Speaker 7] (54:10 - 54:11)
Do we issue an R_F_P_ just

[Speaker 1] (54:11 - 54:20)
I want to work with Jason on that as well, because like believe you still have care you have custody of it, and we're licensing the use basically.

[Speaker 9] (54:20 - 54:20)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (54:20 - 54:22)
So y yeah, happy to look into that

[Speaker 7] (54:22 - 54:22)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (54:22 - 54:28)
and and as a parallel track to the business plan idea that Cheryl is talking about as well, so that we'll have both answers.

[Speaker 7] (54:29 - 54:29)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (54:31 - 54:45)
Yes, so that's a great point, Nick, um like talking about custody of the actual building. Custody will not pass from the school to the town. They will just leave to the town, the ability to use it, and we will be responsible for

[Speaker 7] (54:45 - 54:45)
That supplements.

[Speaker 8] (54:45 - 54:51)
the maintenance that is outlined. Um is that right. So who will be keeping the insurance?

[Speaker 8] (54:52 - 54:53)
You guys, time

[Speaker 10] (54:53 - 54:53)
Time pays all insurance

[Speaker 8] (54:53 - 54:53)
all

[Speaker 3] (54:53 - 54:54)
Town

[Speaker 10] (54:54 - 54:54)
and

[Speaker 3] (54:54 - 54:54)
should

[Speaker 8] (54:54 - 54:54)
these

[Speaker 10] (54:54 - 54:54)
all

[Speaker 3] (54:54 - 54:54)
is

[Speaker 8] (54:54 - 54:54)
all

[Speaker 10] (54:54 - 54:54)
buildings

[Speaker 8] (54:54 - 54:54)
the

[Speaker 3] (54:54 - 54:54)
insurance.

[Speaker 8] (54:54 - 54:54)
insurance.

[Speaker 10] (54:54 - 54:55)
anyways.

[Speaker 8] (54:55 - 54:55)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (54:57 - 54:58)
Okay, great.

[Speaker 1] (54:58 - 54:58)
I just wanted to

[Speaker 3] (54:58 - 54:58)
And

[Speaker 1] (54:58 - 54:58)
know.

[Speaker 3] (54:58 - 55:01)
it's still it's still actively insured even though it's a vacant building.

[Speaker 7] (55:01 - 55:02)
Yes.

[Speaker 3] (55:02 - 55:02)
Okay, great.

[Speaker 7] (55:03 - 55:03)
Let's.

[Speaker 1] (55:03 - 55:04)
So that was more expensive.

[Speaker 11] (55:04 - 55:05)
It might be more expensive

[Speaker 7] (55:05 - 55:05)
It's more

[Speaker 11] (55:05 - 55:05)
for

[Speaker 7] (55:05 - 55:05)
expensive

[Speaker 11] (55:05 - 55:06)
us to maintain

[Speaker 7] (55:06 - 55:06)
as a vacant

[Speaker 11] (55:06 - 55:06)
it.

[Speaker 7] (55:06 - 55:07)
building, I bet.

[Speaker 3] (55:07 - 55:08)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (55:08 - 55:08)
Did

[Speaker 3] (55:08 - 55:08)
Well,

[Speaker 7] (55:08 - 55:09)
you get I to

[Speaker 3] (55:09 - 55:10)
just didn't know because if it's empty and yeah.

[Speaker 7] (55:10 - 55:11)
Vandalism and things.

[Speaker 1] (55:12 - 55:13)
So it would be cheaper if people were paying

[Speaker 11] (55:13 - 55:14)
It's

[Speaker 1] (55:14 - 55:14)
pickleball

[Speaker 11] (55:14 - 55:14)
probably

[Speaker 1] (55:14 - 55:14)
ball 24 7.

[Speaker 11] (55:14 - 55:16)
a nominal difference,

[Speaker 11] (55:16 - 55:16)
but

[Speaker 7] (55:16 - 55:16)
Pickleball.

[Speaker 11] (55:16 - 55:18)
pickleball would save money in that regard too.

[Speaker 3] (55:18 - 55:19)
Not cheaper for them,

[Speaker 7] (55:19 - 55:19)
No.

[Speaker 3] (55:19 - 55:20)
but cheaper for us.

[Speaker 1] (55:21 - 55:44)
The the the one thing to you know Charlotte mentioned like that wanting to go to you know recharge because eventually she kind of have to give it up. You know this is a one-year deal right and schools still control kind of the ultimate destiny of what happens at this point. So that is a little bit of the danger of this right it's like hopefully it's incredibly successful but then

[Speaker 1] (55:45 - 55:56)
are we starting to build in kind of an expectation and then, you know, what about other uses, you know, um that we're gonna we're kind of um creating that potential tension

[Speaker 7] (55:56 - 55:57)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 7] (55:57 - 56:02)
going Well, forward. we have the superintendent here, we can ask him what your plan is. I don't want to put you on the spot,

[Speaker 11] (56:02 - 56:02)
Oh,

[Speaker 7] (56:02 - 56:02)
but

[Speaker 11] (56:02 - 56:04)
that's my plan for Clark long term.

[Speaker 7] (56:04 - 56:04)
yeah. Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 11] (56:04 - 56:05)
I mean

[Speaker 8] (56:06 - 56:07)
Oh, he sits at Charlotte, that's the plan long term.

[Speaker 11] (56:07 - 56:08)
yeah, that's the plan long

[Speaker 6] (56:08 - 56:08)
Right.

[Speaker 11] (56:08 - 56:09)
term.

[Speaker 7] (56:09 - 56:09)
Right.

[Speaker 11] (56:09 - 56:09)
That's the Charlotte

[Speaker 8] (56:09 - 56:09)
Good answer.

[Speaker 11] (56:09 - 56:12)
and have a great rec centre for the kids in

[Speaker 1] (56:13 - 56:16)
um and adults and seniors in in the community.

[Speaker 7] (56:16 - 56:16)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (56:17 - 56:19)
I think twenty four seven pickles are great. I think

[Speaker 7] (56:19 - 56:19)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (56:19 - 56:26)
uh there's so many options. I mean, then obviously you know the Friday night idea that we were talking about the you know kids

[Speaker 1] (56:26 - 56:42)
Yeah, it's kind of a quiet town. Kids are looking for things to do. When we ever have those open gyms at the middle school fifth and sixth grade or whatever the you know we're not quite ready to call it a dance yet but we have an open gym with a DJ it is jam-packed jam-packed. We do that a couple times a year but to have access to a building like that.

[Speaker 12] (56:44 - 56:52)
every week would be amazing. As far as years down the road I I think a lot of that would depend on quite frankly what happens with the middle school.

[Speaker 7] (56:52 - 56:53)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 12] (56:53 - 57:04)
So we'd have to see, but I would what, you know, I wanna work elaborately with Charlotte and um and Nick and you. And s we'd come up with plan. We'd have plenty of time to kind of figure that out if if indeed that happens.

[Speaker 8] (57:05 - 57:10)
Um one thing I wanna ask about, because there's a no assignment provision, so Charlotte can't sublet.

[Speaker 3] (57:11 - 57:16)
Is that right? So like if use lacrosse wanted to run a clinic in the gym,

[Speaker 3] (57:16 - 57:20)
is she allowed to let them and accept payment for that or she cannot?

[Speaker 7] (57:23 - 57:29)
My opinion on that specific example is that that probably has enough connectivity to the recreation where

[Speaker 6] (57:29 - 57:29)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (57:29 - 57:30)
there's not an issue. I think

[Speaker 8] (57:30 - 57:30)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (57:30 - 57:40)
like that clause is more getting at the concept of we're gonna issue a separate RFP or look to get another lease to rent out the entire second floor

[Speaker 8] (57:40 - 57:40)
Yep,

[Speaker 7] (57:40 - 57:40)
of

[Speaker 8] (57:40 - 57:41)
got it.

[Speaker 7] (57:41 - 57:41)
the building.

[Speaker 7] (57:42 - 57:43)
Is still her umbrella?

[Speaker 8] (57:43 - 57:43)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (57:43 - 57:43)
Charlie.

[Speaker 8] (57:43 - 57:44)
I just wanna

[Speaker 1] (57:44 - 57:46)
Charlie can't sublease it to Katie's gas station.

[Speaker 7] (57:46 - 57:47)
Right, right.

[Speaker 8] (57:47 - 57:47)
Katie's gas station,

[Speaker 7] (57:47 - 57:47)
Mary Ellen's

[Speaker 8] (57:47 - 57:48)
she doesn't

[Speaker 7] (57:48 - 57:48)
coffee.

[Speaker 8] (57:48 - 57:50)
own gas stations, to be clear.

[Speaker 6] (57:50 - 57:50)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (57:50 - 57:50)
All right.

[Speaker 7] (57:50 - 57:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 6] (57:51 - 57:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (57:51 - 57:56)
I guess I'll just comment. That's a great thought only because we know,

[Speaker 8] (57:56 - 57:58)
for example, my son plays D team tackle.

[Speaker 8] (57:59 - 58:01)
They're on the losing streak sadly.

[Speaker 8] (58:01 - 58:12)
And they can't use the fields because they close them. They would they would have loved to go to a place inside. They could obviously not no pads, no cleats, but just to go over

[Speaker 8] (58:13 - 58:14)
you know, place.

[Speaker 6] (58:14 - 58:14)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 8] (58:14 - 58:16)
Clark Gym would have been great for that.

[Speaker 6] (58:16 - 58:16)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 8] (58:16 - 58:22)
So that would have been an option, 'cause they the football programme, the lacrosse programme, we they they all pay for gym time.

[Speaker 6] (58:22 - 58:23)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 8] (58:23 - 58:26)
Um but there is usually not gym time, especially this time of year.

[Speaker 6] (58:26 - 58:27)
Yep.

[Speaker 8] (58:27 - 58:34)
Um so that could be a great way to sort of recoup some costs and help, you know, with the utilities.

[Speaker 8] (58:35 - 58:35)
Great.

[Speaker 8] (58:36 - 58:41)
All right, so it sounds like we will circle back with some pro formas, as Mary Ellen says,

[Speaker 8] (58:41 - 58:46)
projections, and we will see you back two weeks from now,

[Speaker 8] (58:46 - 58:49)
hopefully conclude this discussion.

[Speaker 6] (58:49 - 58:52)
And so this would be November 1st, right? So ideally, right?

[Speaker 6] (58:52 - 58:53)
That way it's right in here.

[Speaker 7] (58:54 - 58:55)
That was the goal.

[Speaker 8] (58:56 - 58:56)
Request the goal.

[Speaker 8] (58:57 - 58:57)
Let's

[Speaker 6] (58:57 - 58:57)
aim Sure.

[Speaker 8] (58:57 - 58:58)
for it.

[Speaker 8] (58:59 - 59:00)
Thank you guys for coming in,

[Speaker 6] (59:00 - 59:01)
Thank you all.

[Speaker 8] (59:01 - 59:01)
joining us.

[Speaker 7] (59:01 - 59:02)
Thanks.

[Speaker 8] (59:03 - 59:06)
We will move on to agenda item number two,

[Speaker 8] (59:06 - 59:10)
which is a Community Life Center Committee update.

[Speaker 8] (59:10 - 59:13)
We have a majority of the committee here.

[Speaker 8] (59:13 - 59:14)
We do not.

[Speaker 12] (59:15 - 59:16)
Oh, sorry.

[Speaker 8] (59:16 - 59:17)
Do you?

[Speaker 8] (59:17 - 59:18)
Okay,

[Speaker 8] (59:18 - 59:18)
do you want to do that?

[Speaker 8] (59:30 - 59:31)
Hi.

[Speaker 8] (59:31 - 59:34)
For those of you that I haven't met, my name is Annika Kunley. I'm the chair of the

[Speaker 2] (59:43 - 59:43)
Sheryl Levinson.

[Speaker 3] (59:43 - 59:44)
Bob Howell.

[Speaker 4] (59:44 - 59:45)
Kate Green.

[Speaker 1] (59:46 - 59:46)
Um oh.

[Speaker 2] (59:46 - 59:47)
Oh right.

[Speaker 1] (59:47 - 59:51)
Oh right. All right, why don't you join us up front. Alright.

[Speaker 2] (59:51 - 59:51)
Oh.

[Speaker 1] (59:51 - 59:53)
And we might actually have a quorum.

[Speaker 2] (59:53 - 59:54)
Now we do.

[Speaker 3] (59:54 - 59:54)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (59:54 - 59:55)
We do. Great.

[Speaker 3] (59:55 - 59:55)
yes.

[Speaker 3] (59:55 - 59:56)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (59:56 - 1:00:06)
Well, lovely. So we're here because we know that there were some questions about our work to date, and so we're really just wanting to give you sort of an update as to what we've been working on and give you a chance to ask some questions.

[Speaker 1] (1:00:06 - 1:00:09)
So as you probably all know,

[Speaker 1] (1:00:09 - 1:00:16)
Um we essentially were coalesced in January of this year and have had sort of a series of meetings.

[Speaker 1] (1:00:16 - 1:00:36)
We had a little bit of a slow start getting folks I think fully to the table. So we lost a few members had to gain a few more and uh have put out we've had sort of two milestones to date which was we put out an RFQ uh over the summer and received four bids from four firms that we believe are quite qualified. Uh so we have now extended an opportunity to all four firms to submit.

[Speaker 1] (1:00:36 - 1:00:59)
met uh an R_F_P_ So we are expecting that we will have those by the end of this month with a goal of deciding by uh off the top of my head I think it's either mid-November and then a goal of having them start essentially December first. With a goal of having that their entire evaluation complete. This is ambitious, but um by about mid-April, mid uh mid to late April. So

[Speaker 1] (1:01:01 - 1:01:02)
What am I missing?

[Speaker 5] (1:01:02 - 1:01:09)
You want to explain a little bit what the RFQ asked and what they answered and then what they will be answering for the RFP just like generally.

[Speaker 1] (1:01:10 - 1:01:21)
Yeah, so we looked at, you know, as a bit of a reminder, we are focused on sort of two primary mandates. The first is to conduct a general needs assessment in sort of two pieces.

[Speaker 1] (1:01:21 - 1:01:25)
The first is whether or not folks in the town would want a community life center.

[Speaker 1] (1:01:26 - 1:01:28)
So that's, I think, you know, for the conversation we were just having,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:28 - 1:01:29)
what,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:29 - 1:01:30)
which was quite timely,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:31 - 1:01:38)
what is the need in the community for a space for programming of all ages? So really thinking about it as a comprehensive space for people to come.

[Speaker 1] (1:01:38 - 1:01:41)
meet and play or learn,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:41 - 1:01:52)
and I think one of the things that we run into is much as you just said, we are running out of space for I think programming of all ages. So understanding one,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:52 - 1:01:54)
what is the interest of the folks in the town,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:54 - 1:01:55)
and then two,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:55 - 1:01:57)
if there is significant interest,

[Speaker 1] (1:01:57 - 1:02:01)
what does it look like as far as structure to then meet those needs?

[Speaker 1] (1:02:01 - 1:02:03)
I think do we need gym space,

[Speaker 1] (1:02:03 - 1:02:04)
do we need learning space,

[Speaker 1] (1:02:04 - 1:02:05)
do we need

[Speaker 1] (1:02:05 - 1:02:29)
need and you know there's a whole list of things I think we could go into around what does this sort of look like but really our task is to understand what does the community want and then what does what would meet the community needs so the RFQ was focused on a couple of different pieces we're asking firms to one be able to interact with the town in a pretty substantive way we want to really solicit real feedback and understand what are people really looking for

[Speaker 1] (1:02:30 - 1:02:42)
We then need, I think there's several sites around town that we would want to evaluate as far as whether or not, you know, they could fit in their current state or be retrofitted to meet those needs or whether a new facility would be needed to be constructed.

[Speaker 1] (1:02:43 - 1:02:47)
And then in that event having sort of an analysis of those different sites done.

[Speaker 1] (1:02:48 - 1:02:55)
And these different firms have to have some architectural expertise so they can speak to that pretty effectively as well as any estimated cost.

[Speaker 1] (1:02:55 - 1:02:58)
So having an understanding of their capacity,

[Speaker 1] (1:02:58 - 1:02:59)
their history,

[Speaker 1] (1:02:59 - 1:03:01)
their history within the state with other municipalities,

[Speaker 1] (1:03:01 - 1:03:07)
whether or not they have done similar work, you know, rec centers aren't an exact graft,

[Speaker 1] (1:03:08 - 1:03:09)
neither are senior centers.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:09 - 1:03:10)
We're looking for something sort of in the middle.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:11 - 1:03:14)
And so really looking to see what kind of experience they have. So we conducted.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:14 - 1:03:17)
We conducted two references per firm and evaluated,

[Speaker 1] (1:03:17 - 1:03:40)
they gave us incredibly comprehensive packets of information on themselves and the work that they've done to date and we conducted those those references several of us were at all of those and decided to go ahead and extend the opportunity to submit an RFP to all four firms so happy to answer any questions or if I'm missing anything please please jump in.

[Speaker 6] (1:03:42 - 1:03:45)
So I think this is incredibly timely, right, in in

[Speaker 1] (1:03:45 - 1:03:45)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (1:03:45 - 1:03:45)
light of

[Speaker 1] (1:03:45 - 1:03:45)
It

[Speaker 6] (1:03:45 - 1:03:45)
uh

[Speaker 1] (1:03:45 - 1:03:46)
felt

[Speaker 6] (1:03:46 - 1:03:46)
our biffing. conversation.

[Speaker 1] (1:03:46 - 1:03:48)
We were all sort of Right? gritting at each other throughout this.

[Speaker 6] (1:03:48 - 1:04:06)
Really, I mean it you know it's almost like a a good trial run for us to understand, you know, the the breadth of use in in the different areas that, you know, potentially recreation in this year could make the case for what we want to see long term, right? So it's it it's it really matches up nicely.

[Speaker 6] (1:04:07 - 1:04:08)
I'm going to breathe.

[Speaker 6] (1:04:08 - 1:04:10)
So if we're already doing,

[Speaker 6] (1:04:10 - 1:04:17)
potentially, if we have the possibility of already doing our own test run and our own study,

[Speaker 6] (1:04:17 - 1:04:21)
is this really a good spend?

[Speaker 6] (1:04:21 - 1:04:23)
If we have the ability,

[Speaker 6] (1:04:23 - 1:04:25)
if Charlotte comes back and says,

[Speaker 6] (1:04:25 - 1:04:25)
listen,

[Speaker 6] (1:04:26 - 1:04:35)
these are the programs I can do, this is my pro forma, this is what I think I can do, and everyone feels comfortable that financially it's, you know, there's a minimal risk here.

[Speaker 6] (1:04:36 - 1:04:42)
Wouldn't wouldn't that answer the question as far as a community center or something for the community instead of spending

[Speaker 1] (1:04:42 - 1:04:42)
If

[Speaker 6] (1:04:42 - 1:04:43)
this

[Speaker 1] (1:04:43 - 1:04:45)
I can, if I can just quickly ask to clarify the question.

[Speaker 6] (1:04:45 - 1:04:45)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (1:04:45 - 1:04:50)
Are we essentially saying that the needs assessment could be substituted by a trial run using Clark School for recreational

[Speaker 6] (1:04:50 - 1:04:51)
that's my question

[Speaker 1] (1:04:51 - 1:04:51)
purposes?

[Speaker 5] (1:04:51 - 1:04:52)
Yeah, I

[Speaker 6] (1:04:52 - 1:04:53)
That's my question

[Speaker 7] (1:04:53 - 1:04:53)
Charlotte.

[Speaker 5] (1:04:53 - 1:05:04)
I mean in my opinion what Charlotte is going to utilize or the rec director sorry is going to utilize a Clark school is one small portion of what the needs assessment is looking at so

[Speaker 5] (1:05:04 - 1:05:05)
So yes,

[Speaker 5] (1:05:05 - 1:05:11)
the rec director is going to take a temperature and run rec programming related to what the community wants,

[Speaker 5] (1:05:11 - 1:05:19)
but it's not the breadth of it is not to reach out to community members and to figure out what are we not doing that we could be doing,

[Speaker 5] (1:05:19 - 1:05:22)
what are you, what are you going to outside communities to do?

[Speaker 5] (1:05:22 - 1:05:27)
I mean, she's right now the rec department is one person and so,

[Speaker 5] (1:05:27 - 1:05:27)
and

[Speaker 8] (1:05:28 - 1:05:28)
She's

[Speaker 1] (1:05:28 - 1:05:29)
Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (1:05:29 - 1:05:31)
not going to offer swimming lessons because there's no pool.

[Speaker 5] (1:05:31 - 1:05:35)
Right, but if the community outreach shows, well, if we had a pool,

[Speaker 5] (1:05:35 - 1:05:39)
we could offer swimming lessons and there's a really big need in town.

[Speaker 5] (1:05:39 - 1:05:40)
Like that also.

[Speaker 5] (1:05:41 - 1:05:57)
The rec director is not going around town looking at other buildings to see what other programming could be done in those buildings and if we retrofitted reach to have a fourth floor and an elevator could we make it work for annex as a community life center to the senior center or whatever.

[Speaker 5] (1:05:57 - 1:06:09)
So I think also Heidi's not substantially involved although maybe peripherally involved in the Clark piece so Heidi may be the director of the senior center so I think.

[Speaker 5] (1:06:09 - 1:06:17)
There is an element there that we need to explore. So I think while she is one element to the needs assessment, the needs assessment has a breadth which is much greater than just wreck,

[Speaker 5] (1:06:18 - 1:06:19)
in my opinion.

[Speaker 6] (1:06:20 - 1:06:20)
I agree.

[Speaker 8] (1:06:20 - 1:06:20)
Agreed.

[Speaker 6] (1:06:20 - 1:06:21)
I agree entirely.

[Speaker 6] (1:06:22 - 1:06:26)
And we would not, we would not only, we would include the senior center where,

[Speaker 6] (1:06:26 - 1:06:38)
where we'd like to include the veterans, we would like to make sure that this is a community life center that benefits everybody of all ages, of all, you know, interest.

[Speaker 9] (1:06:39 - 1:06:40)
Um, right.

[Speaker 6] (1:06:40 - 1:06:41)
Much bigger scope.

[Speaker 6] (1:06:41 - 1:06:42)
Yes.

[Speaker 9] (1:06:42 - 1:06:50)
And that would actually free up the senior center for something else if we were, and with all together,

[Speaker 9] (1:06:50 - 1:06:55)
it just makes more sense. It would, we could, we could offer more programs. It's really sad,

[Speaker 9] (1:06:55 - 1:07:00)
and I know that Bob feels the same way, it's really sad, the senior center where we have to turn people away.

[Speaker 6] (1:07:01 - 1:07:01)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (1:07:01 - 1:07:04)
And I'm sure recreation has to turn people away.

[Speaker 9] (1:07:05 - 1:07:07)
Um, so.

[Speaker 1] (1:07:07 - 1:07:13)
And I think that just to sort of as a key piece around what is our remit for the task force,

[Speaker 1] (1:07:13 - 1:07:15)
which I think is a fun name,

[Speaker 1] (1:07:15 - 1:07:18)
is we're just here to provide information.

[Speaker 1] (1:07:18 - 1:07:34)
That's our only goal is to essentially say, you know, we're a resource to go out and find out what is the temperature of the town and what do people need and where I think, you know, to the point of are people going to the Marblehead Y or the Lynn Y or other,

[Speaker 1] (1:07:34 - 1:07:34)
you know, Salem State.

[Speaker 1] (1:07:34 - 1:07:57)
state for programming that we could get an understanding of where is all of where all of those folks going and where you know potentially are those are those dollars going to just in thinking about that as well that we could you know do sort of accomplish two pieces one generate revenue for the town and to also help create you know an additional sense of community here I'm I'll be totally honest I'm originally from Boulder Colorado

[Speaker 1] (1:07:57 - 1:08:23)
So I'm a transplant and one of the things that I really appreciated about growing up in that town is we had three different three for a town of when I was little it was about sixty thousand if you excluded the university and it was all sorts of programming it was you know dance or knitting or languages it was things you wouldn't even really think about and it's sort of a one-time investment into a space where you get to they're still there and I'm you know almost 35 so

[Speaker 9] (1:08:23 - 1:08:23)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:08:23 - 1:08:25)
it's one of those things where I think it's

[Speaker 1] (1:08:25 - 1:08:35)
What we really want to do is essentially gather as much information, essentially map out all of, you know, this could be and then give it to the town to make it to make a decision.

[Speaker 1] (1:08:35 - 1:08:39)
So we're just we're here as an information resource, that's it.

[Speaker 6] (1:08:39 - 1:08:50)
I think it can be incredibly informative. I mean it encumulatively could just really give us a lot of data on a lot of different areas, right, so I think it'd be hugely beneficial. I I can't see a negative at all.

[Speaker 10] (1:08:50 - 1:08:52)
Yeah, so I just have two things to add. One is um

[Speaker 10] (1:08:53 - 1:08:55)
Though the master plan isn't complete,

[Speaker 10] (1:08:55 - 1:09:07)
uh there is feedback from the town about a desire for a community life centre that will be ins you know sort of institutionalised in the final master plan report. And the other is you know to be mindful of the fact that we are called a feasibility study.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:07 - 1:09:08)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 10] (1:09:08 - 1:09:10)
And uh we're really just looking at

[Speaker 11] (1:09:10 - 1:09:12)
they have a need and is it feasible?

[Speaker 11] (1:09:12 - 1:09:29)
And I will just sort of tell you what in one of the RFQ responses they actually did an initial feasibility of the sites that we've asked them to review and what was fascinating is especially as it pertains to Clark is that they cited that there's may not be enough parking to facilitate.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:38 - 1:09:38)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:38 - 1:09:48)
that's health, etcetera, right. So uh I think it's an ideal site. Um but you know in the feasibility study we're gonna find out that one of the things that it lacks is parking.

[Speaker 2] (1:09:48 - 1:09:48)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:48 - 1:09:49)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (1:09:49 - 1:09:51)
Because there are a lot of other sites around town that have a lot more but

[Speaker 1] (1:09:51 - 1:09:51)
Yeah, exactly.

[Speaker 3] (1:09:51 - 1:09:52)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:52 - 1:09:53)
Like um like St.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:53 - 1:09:54)
John's parking lot.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:54 - 1:09:54)
Parking lots.

[Speaker 5] (1:09:54 - 1:09:56)
Right. Fourth on ten.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:56 - 1:09:56)
Or parking lots.

[Speaker 5] (1:09:56 - 1:09:57)
Mark.

[Speaker 5] (1:09:57 - 1:09:58)
That's true.

[Speaker 1] (1:09:58 - 1:10:01)
Or what congregation Shirat Hayeb's parking lot has

[Speaker 5] (1:10:01 - 1:10:01)
Oh,

[Speaker 1] (1:10:01 - 1:10:01)
a

[Speaker 5] (1:10:01 - 1:10:02)
I know.

[Speaker 1] (1:10:02 - 1:10:02)
green place.

[Speaker 5] (1:10:02 - 1:10:02)
Okay.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:02 - 1:10:03)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (1:10:03 - 1:10:03)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (1:10:03 - 1:10:03)
true.

[Speaker 6] (1:10:03 - 1:10:04)
Yeah,

[Speaker 6] (1:10:04 - 1:10:08)
I will say like when Hadley came up before we went forward with the hotel piece,

[Speaker 6] (1:10:08 - 1:10:20)
like part of like, you know, the Hadley dream was like what if all these nonprofits got together and lived on the first floor of Hadley and you know Lynn Community Health was now a regionalization with Swamp Scott and it was Lynn Swamp Scott Community Health.

[Speaker 6] (1:10:20 - 1:10:24)
health and there were all these things that were available for the community on that first floor I mean

[Speaker 6] (1:10:25 - 1:10:53)
that would be fantastic and that would be amazing for our community to be able to offer something like that but that's just me thinking that it's fantastic we I mean that's why I've always supported the feasibility study because I don't want to build something I don't want to put my neck out on the line for what I want I want to build something that the community needs because you're going to justify a lot of taxpayer dollars going towards something and the only way we can do that is to listen to gather the information and then fulfill the needs that we've heard

[Speaker 4] (1:10:55 - 1:11:06)
And when we um in the RFQ or in the RFP, are we putting any constraints whatsoever on their uh service scope,

[Speaker 4] (1:11:06 - 1:11:13)
ages served, communities served, uh places that they can look at or is it just

[Speaker 4] (1:11:14 - 1:11:24)
carte blanche just give us the best practice of what you see anywhere and everywhere obviously within the confines of like it's got to be within this town

[Speaker 5] (1:11:24 - 1:11:34)
So we've made specific requests that they look at making sure that the center would be inclusive to all communities. So really thinking about making sure that it's accessible.

[Speaker 5] (1:11:36 - 1:11:58)
We are making sure that we're talking to very diverse groups of constituencies so we're not getting, you know, a biased sample. I think that's really important. And that's one of the things that we've asked for in our RFP is essentially how they're gonna do that and how they plan to do that. Uh we have asked for them to evaluate specific sites, but also we I think and Cheryl,

[Speaker 5] (1:11:58 - 1:11:59)
you should speak to this piece.

[Speaker 5] (1:11:59 - 1:12:00)
Um

[Speaker 7] (1:12:00 - 1:12:02)
Yeah, with we we put some sites

[Speaker 7] (1:12:02 - 1:12:15)
in the RFP but made it clear that they would need to talk to probably Max about other potential sites I met with him and he we came up with 20 different places with which even shocked me so

[Speaker 5] (1:12:15 - 1:12:16)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 7] (1:12:16 - 1:12:29)
that would be something that they would do plus get a lot of the community you know information going making sure that they do sessions with with the neighbors with

[Speaker 7] (1:12:29 - 1:12:33)
the residents to find out what they how they feel about it

[Speaker 7] (1:12:34 - 1:12:34)
I

[Speaker 5] (1:12:34 - 1:12:34)
So.

[Speaker 7] (1:12:34 - 1:12:39)
think, yes, we did, we d we are asking for different sites.

[Speaker 5] (1:12:39 - 1:12:53)
And one thing that I think is uh a little bit of a benefit to that is in having to evaluate different sites, we then actually have additional information as a town to understand how we could potentially repurpose those sites. If we don't end up using them for this, we'll have at least a better understanding of, you know, what they could be used for their current

[Speaker 7] (1:12:53 - 1:12:54)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (1:12:54 - 1:12:54)
state.

[Speaker 4] (1:12:54 - 1:12:54)
It's

[Speaker 6] (1:12:54 - 1:12:54)
And

[Speaker 4] (1:12:54 - 1:12:55)
good point.

[Speaker 6] (1:12:55 - 1:12:57)
that aligns with select board goal that we came up with last meeting,

[Speaker 7] (1:12:57 - 1:12:57)
Exactly.

[Speaker 6] (1:12:57 - 1:13:00)
which was figuring out what to do with all the youth.

[Speaker 6] (1:13:00 - 1:13:07)
underutilized or unused spaces in town and how we maybe could project a use for them in the near future.

[Speaker 6] (1:13:07 - 1:13:08)
So that's

[Speaker 5] (1:13:08 - 1:13:08)
Great.

[Speaker 6] (1:13:08 - 1:13:09)
the new thing.

[Speaker 5] (1:13:10 - 1:13:11)
Two birds, one stone.

[Speaker 8] (1:13:11 - 1:13:12)
It's all coming together.

[Speaker 5] (1:13:12 - 1:13:12)
It

[Speaker 4] (1:13:12 - 1:13:13)
Just

[Speaker 5] (1:13:13 - 1:13:13)
is.

[Speaker 4] (1:13:13 - 1:13:22)
just really want to triple down on that kind of making sure that they really engage in many different ways because I feel like what

[Speaker 4] (1:13:22 - 1:13:32)
we consistently encounter with various sites is that no matter how many people are surveyed or how many meetings there were it's it's always

[Speaker 4] (1:13:33 - 1:13:50)
We always feel like we don't have enough input or is it really representative of the community at large? So the more that they can ensure that different parts of town there are meetings or different times of the day, whatever it is in many different ways,

[Speaker 4] (1:13:50 - 1:14:02)
just don't rely on like one survey or you know three meetings or you know there's got to be a real effort to reach out to different constituencies so that we feel as though

[Speaker 4] (1:14:02 - 1:14:11)
So we're not just sitting here later and, oh, we know we don't have perfect information or even close to really good information but we have to make a decision. That's kind of the worst.

[Speaker 5] (1:14:11 - 1:14:30)
So I think I completely agree with you, could not agree more. I think the worst case scenario is we come back and we've talked to, you know, a handful of people from, you know, one section of town and not only have we not done a good job, we've also probably pissed a lot of people off and made people feel disenfranchised if something comes to the table and people don't feel like their voices were heard.

[Speaker 5] (1:14:30 - 1:14:31)
And I think part of

[Speaker 5] (1:14:31 - 1:14:58)
part of the way that we've that the task force was constructed was to have liaisons from different town departments so we do have folks that are on our our task force that I think help us um ground ourselves in ensuring that we're going to make that make contact with all of the different groups that we can and try to solicit as much feedback as we can from each of those different constituencies because I think at the end of the day all all of us that are on the task force really feel like um we won't be doing a good job if we don't do that.

[Speaker 7] (1:14:57 - 1:14:58)
Do that.

[Speaker 5] (1:14:58 - 1:14:58)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (1:14:58 - 1:15:02)
And you could be the first person to the interview to make sure that there will be silence on her.

[Speaker 4] (1:15:04 - 1:15:04)
Thanks, Bob.

[Speaker 5] (1:15:06 - 1:15:06)
Any

[Speaker 6] (1:15:06 - 1:15:07)
Alright,

[Speaker 5] (1:15:07 - 1:15:07)
other questions?

[Speaker 6] (1:15:07 - 1:15:09)
are there any additional comments or questions?

[Speaker 9] (1:15:10 - 1:15:12)
So are you looking to us for a vote or no,

[Speaker 6] (1:15:12 - 1:15:12)
Nope,

[Speaker 9] (1:15:12 - 1:15:12)
this is

[Speaker 1] (1:15:12 - 1:15:13)
No,

[Speaker 9] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
just

[Speaker 6] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
it's

[Speaker 9] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
just

[Speaker 1] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
this is

[Speaker 9] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
information?

[Speaker 1] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
not just

[Speaker 6] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
just from

[Speaker 1] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
about

[Speaker 6] (1:15:13 - 1:15:13)
information,

[Speaker 1] (1:15:13 - 1:15:14)
money.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:14 - 1:15:14)
an informational

[Speaker 5] (1:15:14 - 1:15:14)
That's.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:14 - 1:15:22)
sort of setting the path forward about what the ask is and an update on where they are going.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:22 - 1:15:23)
So,

[Speaker 1] (1:15:23 - 1:15:24)
Timeline. Come back after

[Speaker 6] (1:15:24 - 1:15:24)
timeline,

[Speaker 1] (1:15:24 - 1:15:25)
the RFP is selected after

[Speaker 6] (1:15:25 - 1:15:25)
great.

[Speaker 1] (1:15:25 - 1:15:26)
the vendor is selected.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:26 - 1:15:27)
That's great.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:27 - 1:15:29)
And I appreciate all the hard work you guys have been putting

[Speaker 10] (1:15:29 - 1:15:29)
Very informative.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:29 - 1:15:29)
in.

[Speaker 10] (1:15:30 - 1:15:30)
Thank you.

[Speaker 9] (1:15:30 - 1:15:30)
That's

[Speaker 6] (1:15:30 - 1:15:30)
Great.

[Speaker 9] (1:15:30 - 1:15:31)
very informative.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:31 - 1:15:33)
Really good. And how methodical you are in the,

[Speaker 9] (1:15:33 - 1:15:34)
Yes.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:34 - 1:15:39)
in the both the request we originally made from you and sticking within those guidelines.

[Speaker 9] (1:15:39 - 1:15:39)
Great.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:39 - 1:15:40)
And I appreciate that.

[Speaker 4] (1:15:40 - 1:15:41)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (1:15:41 - 1:15:42)
How many other committees can we get you on now?

[Speaker 9] (1:15:45 - 1:15:46)
We recruit you.

[Speaker 5] (1:15:46 - 1:15:50)
We're here anytime and I think if you don't have my contact information,

[Speaker 5] (1:15:50 - 1:15:53)
I'm always happy to give it to you and happy to meet offline.

[Speaker 5] (1:15:53 - 1:15:54)
if that's ever helpful.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:54 - 1:15:54)
Thank

[Speaker 9] (1:15:54 - 1:15:55)
Thank

[Speaker 6] (1:15:55 - 1:15:55)
you.

[Speaker 9] (1:15:55 - 1:15:55)
you

[Speaker 6] (1:15:55 - 1:15:56)
You all. guys need to

[Speaker 9] (1:15:56 - 1:15:56)
Same adjourn here.

[Speaker 6] (1:15:56 - 1:15:57)
your meeting.

[Speaker 5] (1:15:57 - 1:15:57)
Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (1:15:57 - 1:15:57)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:15:57 - 1:15:58)
Second.

[Speaker 5] (1:15:58 - 1:15:59)
Great.

[Speaker 4] (1:15:59 - 1:15:59)
Well, later.

[Speaker 9] (1:15:59 - 1:16:00)
Thank you very much.

[Speaker 6] (1:16:00 - 1:16:02)
Thank you very much for stopping by

[Speaker 4] (1:16:02 - 1:16:02)
Thanks, everyone.

[Speaker 6] (1:16:02 - 1:16:03)
and for the update.

[Speaker 6] (1:16:05 - 1:16:09)
All right. We will move on to item number three,

[Speaker 6] (1:16:09 - 1:16:12)
amendment of the entertainment license for G-Bar and Grill.

[Speaker 6] (1:16:24 - 1:16:28)
we can do that we have a member of the town staff or anybody

[Speaker 6] (1:16:29 - 1:16:30)
no Marcy's

[Speaker 4] (1:16:30 - 1:16:30)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:16:31 - 1:16:31)
Spain.

[Speaker 7] (1:16:32 - 1:16:32)
Okay.

[Speaker 6] (1:16:32 - 1:16:47)
enjoying Spain all right well I will say this is so we have a application before us for amending an entertainment license Greg Brockman's here you know would you just grab him that mic in case he has to speak you know tonight

[Speaker 9] (1:16:47 - 1:16:49)
Can you hand him that mic there? Thanks.

[Speaker 6] (1:16:49 - 1:16:50)
oh okay thanks

[Speaker 6] (1:16:51 - 1:16:59)
Um, they are moving from, right now their license does not have live entertainment,

[Speaker 6] (1:16:59 - 1:17:00)
correct?

[Speaker 11] (1:17:00 - 1:17:00)
Correct.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:00 - 1:17:10)
And you are asking for a amendment to your license to include entertainment just on Thursdays and Sundays?

[Speaker 11] (1:17:10 - 1:17:10)
Correct.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:11 - 1:17:12)
Okay,

[Speaker 6] (1:17:12 - 1:17:14)
and the time of this, of the,

[Speaker 6] (1:17:14 - 1:17:20)
it would be 6 to 9 on Thursdays and 4 to 8 on Sundays.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:20 - 1:17:26)
They're looking for, just so you know, the application says two to three

[Speaker 6] (1:17:28 - 1:17:30)
instrumental y um

[Speaker 12] (1:17:30 - 1:17:31)
Yeah, it's mostly acoustic.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:31 - 1:17:32)
acoustic

[Speaker 12] (1:17:32 - 1:17:32)
No

[Speaker 6] (1:17:32 - 1:17:32)
music

[Speaker 12] (1:17:32 - 1:17:32)
drums,

[Speaker 6] (1:17:32 - 1:17:33)
with

[Speaker 12] (1:17:33 - 1:17:33)
nothing loud,

[Speaker 6] (1:17:33 - 1:17:34)
two

[Speaker 12] (1:17:34 - 1:17:34)
nothing

[Speaker 6] (1:17:34 - 1:17:34)
to three vocals.

[Speaker 12] (1:17:34 - 1:17:37)
yeah, very very simple.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:37 - 1:17:38)
Okay.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:43 - 1:17:44)
Does anybody have

[Speaker 9] (1:17:44 - 1:17:48)
Well it's two to three music and then two to three vocal components.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:48 - 1:17:49)
That's right. That's what I said.

[Speaker 6] (1:17:51 - 1:17:53)
two to three items of musical.

[Speaker 9] (1:17:56 - 1:17:57)
And it's two nights a week, Greg?

[Speaker 9] (1:17:58 - 1:17:58)
Just

[Speaker 12] (1:17:58 - 1:17:58)
Two nights,

[Speaker 9] (1:17:58 - 1:17:58)
two nights?

[Speaker 12] (1:17:58 - 1:17:59)
yeah.

[Speaker 9] (1:17:59 - 1:18:01)
Thursday and Sunday it looks like.

[Speaker 6] (1:18:03 - 1:18:05)
Greg you want to explain the what's the vibe?

[Speaker 6] (1:18:05 - 1:18:06)
What's happening?

[Speaker 12] (1:18:06 - 1:18:08)
Um basically just, you know, we we've

[Speaker 12] (1:18:09 - 1:18:36)
uh opened up on Sundays uh to kind of expand, you know, the winters have been difficult for us. Um we're just trying to be a little bit better for the community. It's fun to have some some live, quiet um acoustic music for the most part, um some good vocals, a lot of local artists that have been coming in and out. Um and uh the community's responded very nicely to it. Um, you know, I I didn't realise that that box was not checked off on my

[Speaker 12] (1:18:37 - 1:18:59)
my application in the beginning of the year so that's my fault on that um but um again we typically we we've never gone past 8 p.m. and um you know the the doors were open a couple times in this in the summertime and I think that's where we we got some some um maybe neighbours were upset by that I don't know I'm not sure but um

[Speaker 12] (1:19:00 - 1:19:16)
But for the most part, like I said, it's two to three hours. It's mostly some quiet vocals and some not loud instruments whatsoever. So it's helped us and the community has responded nicely to it. So that's

[Speaker 6] (1:19:16 - 1:19:17)
Okay.

[Speaker 12] (1:19:17 - 1:19:17)
pretty much it.

[Speaker 6] (1:19:19 - 1:19:21)
Does anybody have any questions for Greg?

[Speaker 9] (1:19:23 - 1:19:24)
I have a couple.

[Speaker 2] (1:19:28 - 1:19:31)
where are you planning on pu where did you have these people

[Speaker 3] (1:19:31 - 1:19:33)
We just took out a couple tables, um

[Speaker 2] (1:19:33 - 1:19:36)
Is that the blue? That's because that's the blue here. That's

[Speaker 3] (1:19:36 - 1:19:36)
Yes,

[Speaker 2] (1:19:36 - 1:19:37)
where you had exactly. it?

[Speaker 3] (1:19:37 - 1:19:39)
Exactly. So we just took out a couple tables and

[Speaker 2] (1:19:39 - 1:19:41)
So it's right up by the street, right?

[Speaker 3] (1:19:42 - 1:19:42)
Um

[Speaker 2] (1:19:42 - 1:19:44)
Sidewalk. Sidewalks.

[Speaker 2] (1:19:45 - 1:19:45)
I think

[Speaker 3] (1:19:45 - 1:19:45)
It's

[Speaker 2] (1:19:45 - 1:19:45)
I got it.

[Speaker 3] (1:19:45 - 1:19:46)
in the front, in the front To the

[Speaker 2] (1:19:46 - 1:19:46)
fly.

[Speaker 3] (1:19:46 - 1:19:48)
front of the front of the restaurant, yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:19:48 - 1:19:49)
I got it.

[Speaker 2] (1:19:51 - 1:19:52)
And

[Speaker 2] (1:19:53 - 1:19:57)
you, I think one of the problems I have is you

[Speaker 2] (1:19:58 - 1:20:01)
received a phone call from Marcia Velasquez saying,

[Speaker 2] (1:20:01 - 1:20:03)
hey, you don't have an entertainment license,

[Speaker 2] (1:20:03 - 1:20:08)
you've got to stop advertising these these uh events,

[Speaker 2] (1:20:08 - 1:20:11)
and yet you went and had the event?

[Speaker 3] (1:20:12 - 1:20:13)
No, that was the same day.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:14 - 1:20:29)
The same day that she called me and said that they had a complaint and that, you know, she's not going to tell me, hey, go ahead and stop. But you know, there was a complaint, so it's kind of on me what I wanted to do. The event had already been planned.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:29 - 1:20:29)
It wasn't like,

[Speaker 3] (1:20:30 - 1:20:31)
okay, she said no,

[Speaker 3] (1:20:31 - 1:20:34)
let me go ahead and market this and plan this. That's not what happened.

[Speaker 2] (1:20:35 - 1:20:46)
So my conversation with Marzi was that she hadn't notified she had notified you that you were not in compliance with your entertainment license several days prior to that,

[Speaker 2] (1:20:47 - 1:20:51)
and then I don't know if it was a Thursday or a Sunday, it might have been a Sunday.

[Speaker 3] (1:20:52 - 1:20:52)
No, it was a Thursday.

[Speaker 2] (1:20:52 - 1:21:00)
It was a Thursday, and all of a sudden you you had your in you were having your entertainment without your license.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:02 - 1:21:07)
knowing that you didn't have your license and then the police came down and asked you to please stop.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:07 - 1:21:08)
Exactly.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:08 - 1:21:09)
Is that is that what it was?

[Speaker 3] (1:21:10 - 1:21:11)
That's exactly what happened.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:11 - 1:21:13)
Right. So if

[Speaker 3] (1:21:13 - 1:21:16)
But the conversation with Marcy was was different

[Speaker 2] (1:21:16 - 1:21:17)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:17 - 1:21:17)
than that.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:18 - 1:21:18)
Got it.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:18 - 1:21:20)
And it was it was not three to four days prior.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:21 - 1:21:21)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:21 - 1:21:29)
Literally like the same day, maybe a day before. And that was already planned. The band had already been paid for. Not a band, but it was two people.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:30 - 1:21:34)
vocal singing for two hours, so I didn't think that it would be an issue.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:37 - 1:21:37)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (1:21:37 - 1:21:40)
Hadn't been an issue any time before that.

[Speaker 2] (1:21:44 - 1:21:46)
So, you know, for me the

[Speaker 2] (1:21:48 - 1:21:53)
when I sit here I wanna say yeah, sh I think this is great, no problem, but

[Speaker 2] (1:21:54 - 1:22:15)
You you have neighbors there and there's an there's a neighbor there is a neighborhood there there are people that live right across the street or people right behind and this is an interruption into their daily and to their daily environment into their their livelihood I don't say livelihood into their their just into their well-being that's

[Speaker 3] (1:22:15 - 1:22:15)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:22:15 - 1:22:18)
where that's where I have a problem and the doors

[Speaker 2] (1:22:19 - 1:22:20)
These are doors that are open.

[Speaker 2] (1:22:24 - 1:22:37)
You know, I know we had issues with another restaurant years ago and and uh that it just didn't seem to stop. So this is this is a really this is a tough thing for me.

[Speaker 3] (1:22:38 - 1:22:38)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (1:22:39 - 1:22:39)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:41 - 1:22:45)
Is are there like parameters or conditions maybe that you want to suggest?

[Speaker 1] (1:22:46 - 1:22:50)
to be better, like if there's a ban that the doors are always shut,

[Speaker 3] (1:22:50 - 1:22:51)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:22:51 - 1:22:55)
or there's some sort of sound-proofing curtain that could go up against the glass so it's not coming out, or

[Speaker 3] (1:22:55 - 1:22:57)
Can I just interject for one second?

[Speaker 1] (1:22:57 - 1:22:57)
Please.

[Speaker 3] (1:22:57 - 1:23:08)
'Cause we have lot we have music um playing fairly, you know, uh at a good volume. The acoustic music that we've had is not loud. Obviously when the doors are open.

[Speaker 3] (1:23:08 - 1:23:25)
There's echoing that would probably hit on the other side of the street, so I can understand that. Um and yeah, that makes sense that maybe the doors need to be closed for for situations like that. 'Cause in eighteen years we've never had an issue or a p complaint about any noise what so ever.

[Speaker 2] (1:23:25 - 1:23:27)
Have you had i have you had live music there?

[Speaker 3] (1:23:28 - 1:23:33)
Yeah I mean, but it's it's it's not much louder than what's playing on our sound system.

[Speaker 3] (1:23:34 - 1:23:36)
It's pretty similar. So I

[Speaker 4] (1:23:36 - 1:23:36)
It

[Speaker 3] (1:23:36 - 1:23:38)
think maybe because the doors were open,

[Speaker 3] (1:23:39 - 1:23:40)
that's probably why the difference I would be.

[Speaker 2] (1:23:40 - 1:23:48)
don't know what I'm looking for is I'm looking to not disturb people that I'm just looking I'm looking to not disturb the neighbors,

[Speaker 3] (1:23:49 - 1:23:49)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:23:49 - 1:23:57)
you know, for you to be able to have a what you need in your business and for the neighbors to also be able to have what they need.

[Speaker 2] (1:23:57 - 1:23:57)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (1:23:58 - 1:24:00)
So we can yeah, if we can find a way.

[Speaker 2] (1:24:01 - 1:24:01)
So

[Speaker 3] (1:24:01 - 1:24:20)
Can I just propose just one just I'm not trying to play the devil's advocate here But you know the live bands that were that go on all summer long in spring which have been great I've attended many of them especially that that who group was great I could hear that music at my house by the water tank loud and clear

[Speaker 3] (1:24:22 - 1:24:28)
so a little acoustic music for a couple hours maybe twice a week not past 8 p.m.

[Speaker 3] (1:24:28 - 1:24:31)
I just don't see it as a major problem.

[Speaker 3] (1:24:31 - 1:24:32)
I I I

[Speaker 5] (1:24:32 - 1:24:32)
I

[Speaker 3] (1:24:32 - 1:24:34)
just don't see it as a disturbance.

[Speaker 5] (1:24:34 - 1:24:37)
Mr. Bragman, I agree with you. I don't see it as a problem either.

[Speaker 5] (1:24:37 - 1:24:38)
Also,

[Speaker 5] (1:24:38 - 1:24:42)
you know, furthermore, you know, the the band isn't playing out into Humphrey Street.

[Speaker 3] (1:24:42 - 1:24:42)
Exactly.

[Speaker 5] (1:24:42 - 1:24:43)
It's playing into the restaurant.

[Speaker 3] (1:24:43 - 1:24:44)
Exactly.

[Speaker 5] (1:24:44 - 1:24:53)
So, you know, I I do think that a little accommodation from the town to help a local business that's been here for nearly 20 years,

[Speaker 5] (1:24:53 - 1:24:58)
you know, to bring a little bit of joy and bring a little bit of foot traffic into.

[Speaker 5] (1:24:58 - 1:25:02)
through your business is something that is the prerogative of the select board.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:02 - 1:25:05)
We can amend this entertainment license tonight,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:05 - 1:25:15)
support one of our long-time, long-term local businesses, one of my favorite places to go, one of my family's favorite places to go,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:15 - 1:25:16)
and a lot of folks'

[Speaker 5] (1:25:16 - 1:25:18)
favorite place to go in town.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:18 - 1:25:23)
And I think there certainly are neighbors. There certainly are –

[Speaker 5] (1:25:25 - 1:25:28)
you know, things that you can do, you know, certainly

[Speaker 5] (1:25:29 - 1:25:30)
I'm sure if someone came in and said,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:30 - 1:25:31)
hey, look,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:31 - 1:25:32)
you know, it's a little louder.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:33 - 1:25:34)
Can you do this?

[Speaker 5] (1:25:35 - 1:25:37)
I'm sure you're not going to turn them down and

[Speaker 3] (1:25:37 - 1:25:37)
100%,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:37 - 1:25:48)
you're going to listen to that feedback and that recommendation from those neighbors and try to make it a better place. You live here.

[Speaker 3] (1:25:48 - 1:25:48)
absolutely,

[Speaker 5] (1:25:48 - 1:25:49)
You live in Swampskitt.

[Speaker 3] (1:25:49 - 1:25:50)
absolutely.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:50 - 1:25:53)
And I think you've been a pretty good neighbor.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:53 - 1:25:56)
So I'm wholeheartedly supportive of this.

[Speaker 5] (1:25:57 - 1:25:59)
You know, I'm I'm willing to move it

[Speaker 5] (1:26:00 - 1:26:03)
now. So I'd I'd make the motion to approve the amendment of the entertainment licence

[Speaker 6] (1:26:03 - 1:26:04)
It's horrible.

[Speaker 5] (1:26:04 - 1:26:04)
for G-Bar.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:04 - 1:26:06)
The uh so

[Speaker 5] (1:26:07 - 1:26:08)
Okay, well I'm I I can just

[Speaker 3] (1:26:08 - 1:26:09)
you can do that.

[Speaker 5] (1:26:09 - 1:26:09)
I can

[Speaker 1] (1:26:09 - 1:26:12)
Yep, there's a motion on the table. We can second it and still have

[Speaker 5] (1:26:12 - 1:26:12)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:12 - 1:26:13)
continued discussion. So

[Speaker 7] (1:26:14 - 1:26:14)
Second.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:14 - 1:26:22)
Okay, so there is some public who would like to speak, and considering it's on the agenda and public uh you're welcome to if you wanna come up.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:22 - 1:26:24)
We have microphone. So just state your

[Speaker 1] (1:26:25 - 1:26:26)
Name

[Speaker 3] (1:26:26 - 1:26:26)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:26:26 - 1:26:26)
and address,

[Speaker 3] (1:26:26 - 1:26:27)
Can I just put one

[Speaker 1] (1:26:27 - 1:26:27)
yes.

[Speaker 3] (1:26:27 - 1:26:33)
just very specific. Um you stated just till eight o'clock, but and Thursday it's till nine, is that correct?

[Speaker 5] (1:26:33 - 1:26:34)
Yeah, I d I mean uh if you

[Speaker 3] (1:26:34 - 1:26:35)
I just wanna be clear.

[Speaker 5] (1:26:35 - 1:26:35)
if these

[Speaker 3] (1:26:35 - 1:26:36)
I s s

[Speaker 5] (1:26:36 - 1:26:44)
I think when we filled that application we had done one Thursday, so we didn't really have any any data to kind of but but I would I would be happy to state keep it at eight o'clock.

[Speaker 3] (1:26:44 - 1:26:49)
Whatever whatever you want, I'm not telling you yeah, trying to push you one way or another, I'm just reading what it says here. So

[Speaker 5] (1:26:49 - 1:26:50)
Yeah, yeah. So typically

[Speaker 3] (1:26:50 - 1:26:51)
You want it to be considering

[Speaker 5] (1:26:51 - 1:26:51)
typically Thursday

[Speaker 3] (1:26:51 - 1:26:52)
it at night

[Speaker 5] (1:26:52 - 1:26:54)
would be maybe a later night by an hour.

[Speaker 3] (1:26:53 - 1:26:54)
An hour and nine o'clock.

[Speaker 2] (1:26:55 - 1:26:55)
Hmm.

[Speaker 3] (1:26:55 - 1:26:56)
But that's fine yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:26:56 - 1:26:56)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 8] (1:26:57 - 1:26:59)
Okay so we should evaluate it based on what you've got here.

[Speaker 2] (1:26:59 - 1:26:59)
Yes.

[Speaker 3] (1:26:59 - 1:27:00)
Thank you.

[Speaker 8] (1:27:00 - 1:27:00)
Okay yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:27:01 - 1:27:04)
Okay, please. Uh, go ahead.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:04 - 1:27:09)
Um, well, my first thought with these comments just now is, you know, here comes the creep, right?

[Speaker 9] (1:27:09 - 1:27:10)
Here comes the precedent,

[Speaker 9] (1:27:10 - 1:27:10)
right?

[Speaker 9] (1:27:11 - 1:27:14)
And then all of a sudden, you know, they're doing it too. Oh, we'll

[Speaker 1] (1:27:14 - 1:27:14)
Sorry,

[Speaker 9] (1:27:14 - 1:27:14)
do it

[Speaker 1] (1:27:14 - 1:27:14)
could you

[Speaker 9] (1:27:14 - 1:27:15)
at five.

[Speaker 1] (1:27:15 - 1:27:17)
state your name and your address for

[Speaker 9] (1:27:17 - 1:27:17)
sorry, Right, sorry.

[Speaker 1] (1:27:17 - 1:27:17)
thank you.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:17 - 1:27:18)
Sorry.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:18 - 1:27:18)
More referral.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:19 - 1:27:22)
I've been living at Laney Circle for over 30 years.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:24 - 1:27:24)
Again,

[Speaker 9] (1:27:25 - 1:27:26)
it's this creep business.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:27 - 1:27:29)
I'll tell you that frequently our

[Speaker 9] (1:27:30 - 1:27:43)
The noise starts in that area at 4.30 in the morning with garbage and early deliveries. Excuse me, the garbage is often picked up at 4.30 and sometimes.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:45 - 1:27:57)
I have it the other way around, excuse me. Sometimes the garbage comes at 4.30, and oftentimes delivery trucks like Cisco come way before 6 o'clock, you know, 5 o'clock, 5.30,

[Speaker 9] (1:27:57 - 1:27:58)
a quarter of 10.

[Speaker 9] (1:27:58 - 1:28:02)
You know, it's just all this all creep and continual noise that these,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:02 - 1:28:04)
the restaurants generate there,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:05 - 1:28:08)
particularly late at night.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:08 - 1:28:11)
So sometimes our day starts at, you know, 4.30.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:11 - 1:28:16)
4:35 o'clock and then ends with the noise at quarter of two,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:16 - 1:28:17)
1:30,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:17 - 1:28:18)
quarter of two.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:18 - 1:28:34)
I'm glad that he's putting in a window for a couple of hours but again this is how the creep starts and a precedent begins and when they first opened the neighborhood did not object to G's opening.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:35 - 1:28:40)
The time being the zoning law was you have no parking for vendors or customers.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:41 - 1:28:43)
The town decided to waive that.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:44 - 1:28:44)
Fine,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:44 - 1:28:45)
they waived it.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:46 - 1:28:50)
The reason why we didn't object to these is that was going to be intimate dining,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:50 - 1:28:51)
fine dining,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:51 - 1:28:53)
there wasn't going to be a rowdy crowd there.

[Speaker 9] (1:28:53 - 1:28:57)
And these are signals to the neighbourhood that, oh,

[Speaker 9] (1:28:57 - 1:29:00)
they're jacking it up, jacking it up, that this is more noise,

[Speaker 9] (1:29:00 - 1:29:02)
more noise that we are continually,

[Speaker 9] (1:29:02 - 1:29:08)
again sometimes 4.35 in the morning to 1.30, quarter of two at night.

[Speaker 9] (1:29:09 - 1:29:19)
concerned about once again this becoming a precedent and then all of a sudden they're just right there that example eight o'clock okay nine okay

[Speaker 1] (1:29:18 - 1:29:19)
9.

[Speaker 1] (1:29:19 - 1:29:21)
Okay, when does 9 become 10?

[Speaker 1] (1:29:21 - 1:29:22)
When does 10 become 11,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:22 - 1:29:23)
12,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:23 - 1:29:23)
1?

[Speaker 1] (1:29:24 - 1:29:28)
It's all this creeping all the time and nibbling at our privacy,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:28 - 1:29:33)
all the neighborhoods. I know a lot of neighbors couldn't be here tonight,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:33 - 1:29:38)
and it makes me wonder why weren't we informed of this?

[Speaker 1] (1:29:38 - 1:29:42)
You know, I see it stamped October 6th. Where's our letter?

[Speaker 1] (1:29:43 - 1:29:45)
Why are we part of the communication?

[Speaker 1] (1:29:45 - 1:29:48)
Where is the more than lip service that people say,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:48 - 1:29:55)
oh, we have this, we'll respect your rights, our rights are not, our property rights are not being respected.

[Speaker 1] (1:29:56 - 1:29:56)
Again,

[Speaker 1] (1:29:56 - 1:30:05)
I'm glad that he's talking about a small acoustical window and when does it become, you know, a Patty Smith punk concert,

[Speaker 1] (1:30:05 - 1:30:05)
you know?

[Speaker 1] (1:30:05 - 1:30:09)
When does that happen? Oh, we're only going to do this one time, nine, I know they want to.

[Speaker 1] (1:30:09 - 1:30:36)
once a ten to thirty and it's okay I've been listening to you guys since 435 o'clock it's a problem it's a problem that I don't think this town in the select board with the exception of few really appreciates and it impacts all of my neighbors many who don't this isn't their jam it's not mine I don't like public speaking like that but no one's gonna no one's standing up for us

[Speaker 1] (1:30:36 - 1:30:39)
No one has, and that's noise level,

[Speaker 1] (1:30:39 - 1:30:45)
never mind the parking that we can't get out of Blaney Circle sometimes because of the parking there.

[Speaker 1] (1:30:46 - 1:30:50)
We can't, you know, enjoy our yards because of the smells,

[Speaker 1] (1:30:50 - 1:30:51)
the rats.

[Speaker 1] (1:30:51 - 1:31:04)
I mean, we're living here and we have lived here for a long time and we pay taxes and we've paid taxes for a long time. Please consider our privacy and our peace and quiet.

[Speaker 1] (1:31:05 - 1:31:06)
I can't even enjoy my yard anymore.

[Speaker 1] (1:31:07 - 1:31:15)
I mean, it's amazing to me and I'm an avid gardener and that really makes me angry that I'm flushing out rats.

[Speaker 1] (1:31:15 - 1:31:23)
I'm hearing noises and it doesn't stop until two in the morning and I get a window from two to like five o'clock of peace and quiet.

[Speaker 1] (1:31:23 - 1:31:24)
Thank you.

[Speaker 2] (1:31:24 - 1:31:26)
Can I just interject?

[Speaker 3] (1:31:26 - 1:31:29)
Uh one second, we'll just hear from the other public comment and then.

[Speaker 4] (1:31:30 - 1:31:36)
Hey Greg, um, I'm my name's Jody Watts. I live at two fifty nine Humphrey Street, which is directly across from

[Speaker 4] (1:31:36 - 1:31:51)
G, I'm Little G. Um, I just wanna clarify a couple of things that were said. I'm looking at some Instagram posts. The music has been from eight p.m. to ten p.m. consistently. This four dates listed here

[Speaker 5] (1:31:51 - 1:31:51)
Great.

[Speaker 4] (1:31:51 - 1:31:59)
that were eight to ten. So I'm not sh I just wanna be clear that, you know, ten o'clock I have bedrooms right across from the restaurant. Ten

[Speaker 6] (1:31:59 - 1:32:00)
I think

[Speaker 4] (1:32:00 - 1:32:00)
isn't

[Speaker 6] (1:32:00 - 1:32:02)
we're we're open till ten, not

[Speaker 4] (1:32:02 - 1:32:02)
Pardon?

[Speaker 6] (1:32:02 - 1:32:03)
the mu we're open till ten, not the

[Speaker 4] (1:32:03 - 1:32:03)
Nope,

[Speaker 6] (1:32:03 - 1:32:04)
music.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:04 - 1:32:05)
it says live music

[Speaker 4] (1:32:06 - 1:32:08)
Thursdays 8 to 10 p.m.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:08 - 1:32:09)
Next up.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:09 - 1:32:12)
Leon Kick's project, Tim Costello, on

[Speaker 6] (1:32:12 - 1:32:13)
It's five in

[Speaker 4] (1:32:13 - 1:32:18)
August fourteenth, August twenty first, August twenty eighth and September fourth. Eight to ten, that's

[Speaker 6] (1:32:18 - 1:32:18)
We've never

[Speaker 4] (1:32:18 - 1:32:18)
where we had are.

[Speaker 6] (1:32:18 - 1:32:20)
music till ten o'clock ever.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:20 - 1:32:24)
Okay, I guarantee you have because I have heard it. I'm guarantee you have.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:24 - 1:32:38)
So let's just, you know, let's let's just I I'm very willing. I love the restaurant, I love these people, they work really hard, they have been good neighbours for a very long time, and so have we. So maybe we can work something out. At eight to ten I think is pushing it.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:38 - 1:32:45)
Um it is not quiet. If you said it's quiet, it's not just acoustic. There's a guy with a trumpet.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:45 - 1:32:48)
Trumpets are kind of hard to tone down a little bit.

[Speaker 4] (1:32:48 - 1:32:49)
So there's a guy with a trumpet,

[Speaker 4] (1:32:49 - 1:32:59)
uh at least two people that got uh an amplifier and microphones. The doors are open. Uh my windows are open because it's hot.

[Speaker 4] (1:33:00 - 1:33:04)
Um so you know maybe there's a way to rein in the times.

[Speaker 4] (1:33:04 - 1:33:28)
ran in the music definitely keep the doors closed the group is right the doors go up that's the group I can see them from my house they're right on the edge of the outdoors so it's not it's it's it's almost as if they're outdoors because there's three garage doors that go up so you know I just think it's fair to us to in the neighborhood to

[Speaker 4] (1:33:29 - 1:33:35)
uh at least uh cut this back quite a bit or n or not offer it.

[Speaker 3] (1:33:37 - 1:33:38)
Thank you.

[Speaker 3] (1:33:39 - 1:33:41)
Do you have a additional follow-up or

[Speaker 6] (1:33:41 - 1:33:56)
Yeah, I was just saying that we we close the restaurant at ten o'clock so I don't see how there's noise past ten p.m. except for from dockside maybe um and pl living in Blaney circle that's probably where they hear the noise um because we close the restaurant at ten o'clock so

[Speaker 6] (1:33:57 - 1:33:58)
I don't I don't know

[Speaker 7] (1:33:58 - 1:33:58)
But,

[Speaker 6] (1:33:58 - 1:34:01)
where the mi where the noise is coming after 10 p.m. but

[Speaker 4] (1:34:01 - 1:34:04)
No, it's not after ten, but it's up to ten.

[Speaker 7] (1:34:05 - 1:34:05)
Okay, great,

[Speaker 4] (1:34:05 - 1:34:06)
And I and I just these

[Speaker 7] (1:34:06 - 1:34:06)
have to

[Speaker 4] (1:34:06 - 1:34:06)
are

[Speaker 7] (1:34:06 - 1:34:06)
say

[Speaker 4] (1:34:06 - 1:34:09)
advertised to play till ten, so you know.

[Speaker 6] (1:34:10 - 1:34:12)
Oh I was just I was speaking on the Blaney circle, not

[Speaker 4] (1:34:12 - 1:34:12)
Oh I'm sorry.

[Speaker 6] (1:34:12 - 1:34:13)
not you yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:34:15 - 1:34:17)
Greg, I I don't know you, um

[Speaker 7] (1:34:18 - 1:34:18)
but

[Speaker 7] (1:34:20 - 1:34:24)
and I wanna be super enthusiastic about you doing this.

[Speaker 7] (1:34:25 - 1:34:31)
And I know what you're asking for here isn't necessarily what you may have done in the past.

[Speaker 7] (1:34:33 - 1:34:43)
But it doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy that Jody's quoting the ad saying when the music is playing and you're saying that didn't happen.

[Speaker 7] (1:34:45 - 1:34:46)
That's not a great,

[Speaker 6] (1:34:46 - 1:34:46)
It's a

[Speaker 7] (1:34:46 - 1:34:47)
it's not helpful.

[Speaker 4] (1:34:49 - 1:34:50)
Excuse me.

[Speaker 3] (1:34:50 - 1:34:52)
Okay, let's um I'm so sorry but I

[Speaker 7] (1:34:52 - 1:34:53)
Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (1:34:53 - 1:34:53)
just I

[Speaker 7] (1:34:53 - 1:34:53)
so,

[Speaker 3] (1:34:53 - 1:34:53)
can

[Speaker 7] (1:34:53 - 1:34:54)
um

[Speaker 7] (1:35:00 - 1:35:00)
so

[Speaker 7] (1:35:04 - 1:35:12)
I I think we collectively we really need to figure this out, because it's not just this restaurant, you know, Moira's been here before.

[Speaker 7] (1:35:12 - 1:35:35)
um you know it's the collective right like we we're trying to balance you know everybody's needs and um i don't i don't think we're finding the balance uh it's pretty clear we're not completely finding the balance maybe there's not going to be any perfect balance but uh you know and i i hear the point it's not it's not just about you know this music here or

[Speaker 7] (1:35:36 - 1:35:41)
Just about the rats or just about the garbage or just about the deliveries,

[Speaker 7] (1:35:41 - 1:35:45)
but I mean, you know, I mean, I experienced it a lot.

[Speaker 7] (1:35:45 - 1:35:55)
I mean, that is a, you know, crazy little spot, you know, there's people doing U-turns and there's, you know, people parked in front of driveways and there is a lot going on there.

[Speaker 7] (1:35:56 - 1:36:13)
And it's, you know, right in front of these people's, you know, homes. And I really want the restaurants to thrive and the music sounds great, but I do feel like it's not, it's not solely just about this. I know we need to decide on this,

[Speaker 3] (1:36:14 - 1:36:14)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (1:36:14 - 1:36:23)
but I think there's a little bit bigger picture here we need to figure out so that we don't start getting good people and good neighbours.

[Speaker 7] (1:36:24 - 1:36:26)
you know, cross with each other.

[Speaker 1] (1:36:26 - 1:36:27)
So

[Speaker 7] (1:36:27 - 1:36:27)
Um

[Speaker 7] (1:36:27 - 1:36:27)
yeah.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:27 - 1:36:31)
There's also six restaurants on the street, just just to be clear.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:31 - 1:36:32)
I'm not the only one.

[Speaker 7] (1:36:33 - 1:36:33)
Understood.

[Speaker 1] (1:36:33 - 1:36:34)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:36:34 - 1:36:35)
Understood. Absolutely.

[Speaker 7] (1:36:35 - 1:36:35)
And that's a collective,

[Speaker 7] (1:36:36 - 1:36:40)
I think, more of us point out. It's not just about you're a restaurant. I mean, there's...

[Speaker 6] (1:36:40 - 1:36:45)
I just feel like that was direct their comments were directed towards me of the noise and the deliveries and and

[Speaker 7] (1:36:45 - 1:36:46)
No, I I didn't hear it

[Speaker 6] (1:36:46 - 1:36:46)
so

[Speaker 7] (1:36:46 - 1:36:48)
that way. That you're the one here in front of us tonight.

[Speaker 7] (1:36:48 - 1:36:49)
We've heard before,

[Speaker 3] (1:36:49 - 1:36:49)
Yeah,

[Speaker 7] (1:36:49 - 1:36:49)
you know, it's

[Speaker 3] (1:36:49 - 1:36:50)
to be fair,

[Speaker 7] (1:36:50 - 1:36:50)
just...

[Speaker 3] (1:36:50 - 1:36:50)
Greg,

[Speaker 3] (1:36:50 - 1:36:51)
we've heard

[Speaker 7] (1:36:51 - 1:36:51)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (1:36:51 - 1:36:52)
Moyer speak before to

[Speaker 6] (1:36:52 - 1:36:52)
She's

[Speaker 3] (1:36:52 - 1:36:52)
other residents,

[Speaker 6] (1:36:52 - 1:36:53)
oh okay.

[Speaker 3] (1:36:53 - 1:36:53)
so that's probably

[Speaker 4] (1:36:53 - 1:36:53)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (1:36:53 - 1:36:54)
why we don't feel that way.

[Speaker 6] (1:36:54 - 1:36:55)
Alright alright, no worries.

[Speaker 1] (1:36:55 - 1:36:55)
So I

[Speaker 3] (1:36:55 - 1:36:56)
It's not really

[Speaker 1] (1:36:56 - 1:36:57)
I have a couple

[Speaker 3] (1:36:57 - 1:36:57)
targeting.

[Speaker 1] (1:36:57 - 1:36:58)
questions

[Speaker 3] (1:36:58 - 1:36:58)
Go ahead.

[Speaker 1] (1:36:58 - 1:36:59)
for Greg. So

[Speaker 1] (1:36:59 - 1:37:02)
Is it possible that your music

[Speaker 4] (1:37:03 - 1:37:13)
Was you know whatever time Jodi is quoting till 10 could that have happened in the past and then this is your your request for going forward is that part it must be I'm

[Speaker 6] (1:37:13 - 1:37:13)
Honestly,

[Speaker 4] (1:37:13 - 1:37:15)
assuming right okay

[Speaker 6] (1:37:15 - 1:37:29)
I've paid every single person that's come through and I've never had live music till 10 p.m. We only had a couple, maybe two Thursdays, and every other day was on a Sunday afternoon and it was an

[Speaker 6] (1:37:29 - 1:37:46)
was an early like eight o'clock at the latest usually we did it for like four to six and was mostly acoustic so you know there could have been an error in that in that advertisement but I but I can assure you that we only had a handful of Thursdays and they were

[Speaker 6] (1:37:47 - 1:37:50)
never passed eight nine o'clock and that's why I probably I

[Speaker 4] (1:37:50 - 1:37:50)
Greg,

[Speaker 6] (1:37:50 - 1:37:50)
went at

[Speaker 4] (1:37:50 - 1:37:51)
I'm sorry,

[Speaker 6] (1:37:51 - 1:37:51)
nine o'clock.

[Speaker 4] (1:37:51 - 1:37:57)
but I have six seven Instagram posts and they're all eight to ten. There were different

[Speaker 8] (1:37:57 - 1:37:57)
And maybe they were advertised

[Speaker 6] (1:37:57 - 1:37:58)
It could be Instagram

[Speaker 8] (1:37:58 - 1:37:58)
at that, but

[Speaker 6] (1:37:58 - 1:37:58)
posts,

[Speaker 8] (1:37:58 - 1:37:59)
is it possible

[Speaker 6] (1:37:59 - 1:37:59)
but it that doesn't mean

[Speaker 8] (1:37:59 - 1:37:59)
the music

[Speaker 6] (1:37:59 - 1:38:06)
that we wasn't actually that those actually went through or they they happened. We had many third many many many bands that never showed

[Speaker 4] (1:38:06 - 1:38:06)
Yes,

[Speaker 6] (1:38:06 - 1:38:06)
up

[Speaker 4] (1:38:06 - 1:38:07)
it's my word against yours,

[Speaker 4] (1:38:07 - 1:38:09)
but I I hear it's till ten.

[Speaker 8] (1:38:09 - 1:38:16)
The other piece too is I I don't feel like we've had Polmore has been here on more than one occasion and I never

[Speaker 8] (1:38:16 - 1:38:25)
I never see, and I, as much as I ask, I never seem to get an answer to the rat question and I'm always interested in finding out what we're doing to help with that situation.

[Speaker 6] (1:38:25 - 1:38:26)
It's getting worse.

[Speaker 8] (1:38:26 - 1:38:30)
I I think it's more on the town side than it is the restaurants, right?

[Speaker 8] (1:38:30 - 1:38:31)
I feel like you're

[Speaker 1] (1:38:31 - 1:38:32)
It's ruined for their food.

[Speaker 8] (1:38:32 - 1:38:33)
of course, yes,

[Speaker 1] (1:38:33 - 1:38:34)
It's ruined for their food.

[Speaker 8] (1:38:34 - 1:38:35)
totally, totally.

[Speaker 1] (1:38:35 - 1:38:37)
And the rats are dying in my yard,

[Speaker 8] (1:38:37 - 1:38:37)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:38:37 - 1:38:38)
in my yard. It's a-

[Speaker 8] (1:38:43 - 1:38:55)
Right. So I think that from the town's perspective, on the town side, we need to do more to help with that piece of it, but I don't also want to entirely fault the restaurants for it because I think that we own a little bit of it too,

[Speaker 8] (1:38:55 - 1:38:58)
because we haven't really done enough to help the people that live in that area.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:10 - 1:39:17)
do we have to do now I have to you have to monitor this oh it's 11 o'clock still at it do you call the cops do I call you guys

[Speaker 2] (1:39:17 - 1:39:17)
Right,

[Speaker 1] (1:39:17 - 1:39:18)
you know

[Speaker 2] (1:39:18 - 1:39:18)
right.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:18 - 1:39:21)
it's it's not you know I shouldn't be policing this,

[Speaker 2] (1:39:22 - 1:39:22)
Of course.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:22 - 1:39:23)
so this is

[Speaker 2] (1:39:24 - 1:39:27)
So you're finding it happening past ten o'clock from this restaurant?

[Speaker 1] (1:39:28 - 1:39:28)
No.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:28 - 1:39:28)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (1:39:28 - 1:39:29)
Okay, that was not,

[Speaker 3] (1:39:29 - 1:39:29)
We're not

[Speaker 2] (1:39:29 - 1:39:29)
thank

[Speaker 3] (1:39:29 - 1:39:30)
woodworkers.

[Speaker 2] (1:39:30 - 1:39:30)
you for

[Speaker 3] (1:39:30 - 1:39:30)
We're

[Speaker 2] (1:39:30 - 1:39:30)
that.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:30 - 1:39:30)
not open.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:30 - 1:39:31)
That way.

[Speaker 2] (1:39:31 - 1:39:37)
Thank you, I just want to clarify that piece just so I understand for this particular restaurant, you know, that it's that's not really

[Speaker 3] (1:39:37 - 1:39:37)
So,

[Speaker 2] (1:39:37 - 1:39:37)
should

[Speaker 3] (1:39:37 - 1:39:39)
so I have a question.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:39 - 1:39:41)
Well, well I have hold on I just have a comment first.

[Speaker 1] (1:39:41 - 1:39:41)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:42 - 1:39:48)
Um we're here for the amendment of an entertainment license. I think while all these things

[Speaker 3] (1:39:49 - 1:39:50)
interplay together Mm it's

[Speaker 2] (1:39:50 - 1:39:50)
-hmm.

[Speaker 3] (1:39:50 - 1:40:16)
unfair to have just Mr. Brackman sit here and take all of this on I think what is probably more appropriate is to have each of the restaurants in the area and like a community meeting so that we could well to be fair we've seen you multiple times Moira and people are saying that they're doing the best they can with some of the solutions you're obviously not satisfied

[Speaker 3] (1:40:17 - 1:40:19)
and the town could be doing more so the town will be a

[Speaker 3] (1:40:20 - 1:40:20)
stakeholder.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:21 - 1:40:31)
I mean, I understand that's frustrating to you because you've been living through this for a period of time, but if you're not the only one then we need to hear from other community members and we need to understand.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:31 - 1:40:32)
I hear from them.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:33 - 1:40:33)
Great.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:33 - 1:40:41)
But maybe they maybe we can share some of that information so we can understand better and it's not that we're not taking you seriously,

[Speaker 3] (1:40:41 - 1:40:42)
I for sure am,

[Speaker 3] (1:40:42 - 1:40:47)
but it is unfair to this restaurateur to make it feel like he is the only one.

[Speaker 3] (1:40:47 - 1:40:51)
who is, you know, causing some of the the means to these ends.

[Speaker 1] (1:40:51 - 1:41:05)
Again, I'll restate regarding this uh um G's uh restaurant, um this window sounds, you know, appropriate as the fine dining closing at ten is appropriate for the neighbourhood. And if this is a

[Speaker 1] (1:41:06 - 1:41:09)
Again, I'm concerned about the creep and when it goes beyond

[Speaker 2] (1:41:09 - 1:41:09)
Sure.

[Speaker 1] (1:41:09 - 1:41:13)
two to three or or beyond whatever he's

[Speaker 3] (1:41:13 - 1:41:14)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:41:14 - 1:41:14)
asking So for.

[Speaker 3] (1:41:14 - 1:41:15)
so what I'm

[Speaker 1] (1:41:15 - 1:41:15)
When

[Speaker 3] (1:41:15 - 1:41:15)
trying to

[Speaker 1] (1:41:15 - 1:41:15)
half

[Speaker 3] (1:41:15 - 1:41:16)
suggest is

[Speaker 1] (1:41:16 - 1:41:17)
the law people promise

[Speaker 3] (1:41:17 - 1:41:18)
right,

[Speaker 1] (1:41:18 - 1:41:19)
uh I have experienced

[Speaker 3] (1:41:19 - 1:41:19)
if I could

[Speaker 1] (1:41:19 - 1:41:19)
people

[Speaker 3] (1:41:19 - 1:41:19)
just finish.

[Speaker 1] (1:41:19 - 1:41:21)
promising things and not delivering.

[Speaker 2] (1:41:22 - 1:41:22)
Yeah.

[Speaker 3] (1:41:22 - 1:41:30)
Yeah. So what I'm suggesting is maybe we'll talk to Margie about doing a quarterly Humphrey Street corridor community

[Speaker 2] (1:41:30 - 1:41:31)
Right, well I think it it's gonna be

[Speaker 3] (1:41:31 - 1:41:32)
where it's

[Speaker 2] (1:41:32 - 1:41:33)
Here it's the health department, the police

[Speaker 3] (1:41:33 - 1:41:33)
Yeah,

[Speaker 2] (1:41:33 - 1:41:33)
department,

[Speaker 3] (1:41:33 - 1:41:34)
the health department,

[Speaker 2] (1:41:34 - 1:41:34)
all together,

[Speaker 3] (1:41:34 - 1:41:34)
the police

[Speaker 2] (1:41:34 - 1:41:34)
right?

[Speaker 3] (1:41:34 - 1:41:35)
department,

[Speaker 3] (1:41:35 - 1:41:36)
community development,

[Speaker 3] (1:41:36 - 1:41:36)
the neighbors,

[Speaker 1] (1:41:36 - 1:41:37)
Hmm.

[Speaker 3] (1:41:37 - 1:41:38)
the restaurateurs,

[Speaker 3] (1:41:38 - 1:41:52)
a quarterly or monthly check-in where there can be either an airing of grievances or a thank you very much that was exactly how I hoped that would go and I hope it doesn't go any further than that.

[Speaker 3] (1:41:52 - 1:42:16)
Um, like not to be just negative, but I'm sure there are times where, you know, there being great neighbours and they're doing the right thing and they're doing the best they can in situations that they can't always control. Um so I I I'll just make that suggestion as something going forward if we were to approve this licence, whether or not we approve this licence or not, that we should have some sort of conversation that involves a a greater group of people than

[Speaker 4] (1:42:17 - 1:42:19)
You're talking about something separate. No, I don't

[Speaker 5] (1:42:19 - 1:42:19)
Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (1:42:19 - 1:42:22)
Yeah, I mean I think there needs to be a community discussion for the neighbours

[Speaker 4] (1:42:22 - 1:42:22)
Absolutely.

[Speaker 3] (1:42:22 - 1:42:24)
in that area and the restauranteurs in that

[Speaker 4] (1:42:24 - 1:42:24)
I

[Speaker 3] (1:42:24 - 1:42:24)
area

[Speaker 4] (1:42:24 - 1:42:25)
think that's and a really

[Speaker 3] (1:42:25 - 1:42:25)
members

[Speaker 4] (1:42:25 - 1:42:25)
I think

[Speaker 3] (1:42:25 - 1:42:25)
of

[Speaker 4] (1:42:25 - 1:42:26)
that's a the really good idea.

[Speaker 3] (1:42:26 - 1:42:33)
town hall staff so that we can work on some of these issues. 'Cause they don't just fall on one person, they also don't fall on one town hall department.

[Speaker 5] (1:42:34 - 1:42:34)
But

[Speaker 4] (1:42:34 - 1:42:34)
So

[Speaker 5] (1:42:34 - 1:42:34)
you could

[Speaker 4] (1:42:34 - 1:42:35)
I would oh,

[Speaker 5] (1:42:35 - 1:42:35)
yeah,

[Speaker 4] (1:42:35 - 1:42:35)
I have

[Speaker 5] (1:42:35 - 1:42:35)
yeah.

[Speaker 4] (1:42:35 - 1:42:43)
a question that pertains just to this this entertainment request. First, I I am concerned that

[Speaker 4] (1:42:44 - 1:43:05)
you were at that you were you were doing this without having a license. That that is a concern to me. I'm also concerned that I I'm hearing that, um it wasn't just acoustics, it was a trumpet and and other things. However, if if they had

[Speaker 4] (1:43:06 - 1:43:13)
they had two to three um acoustics in music and you didn't hear it outside,

[Speaker 2] (1:43:14 - 1:43:16)
You wouldn't have an issue with that then?

[Speaker 2] (1:43:16 - 1:43:16)
Is

[Speaker 1] (1:43:16 - 1:43:16)
That's

[Speaker 2] (1:43:16 - 1:43:16)
that

[Speaker 1] (1:43:16 - 1:43:17)
fair.

[Speaker 2] (1:43:17 - 1:43:17)
fair to say?

[Speaker 1] (1:43:17 - 1:43:18)
That's fair to correct.

[Speaker 2] (1:43:18 - 1:43:26)
Okay. So if there's a if there's a way to get to that, can we get to that so that we can make everybody happy?

[Speaker 6] (1:43:26 - 1:43:28)
And that yeah, and that was that was my point.

[Speaker 3] (1:43:28 - 1:43:28)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (1:43:28 - 1:43:30)
It was it was you know, Mr.

[Speaker 6] (1:43:30 - 1:43:36)
Brackman, you know, what if there was the potential to just have a vocalist and an acoustic guitar? We keep it quiet.

[Speaker 6] (1:43:38 - 1:43:41)
You get your live music entertainment license,

[Speaker 6] (1:43:41 - 1:43:42)
we help the neighbors,

[Speaker 6] (1:43:43 - 1:43:45)
and it's kind of a everybody wins scenario.

[Speaker 7] (1:43:45 - 1:43:47)
But I have no problem with that.

[Speaker 3] (1:43:47 - 1:43:48)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (1:43:48 - 1:43:48)
Honestly,

[Speaker 7] (1:43:48 - 1:43:49)
it's

[Speaker 1] (1:43:49 - 1:43:49)
And the doors,

[Speaker 7] (1:43:49 - 1:43:49)
it's only

[Speaker 1] (1:43:49 - 1:43:50)
yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:43:50 - 1:43:50)
And a couple of

[Speaker 3] (1:43:50 - 1:43:51)
the doors stay closed at

[Speaker 7] (1:43:51 - 1:43:51)
Doors

[Speaker 3] (1:43:51 - 1:43:51)
night, so stay that's

[Speaker 7] (1:43:51 - 1:43:51)
closed.

[Speaker 3] (1:43:51 - 1:43:52)
the big part of it.

[Speaker 1] (1:43:52 - 1:43:53)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (1:43:53 - 1:43:58)
So we had a major issue years ago with the mission,

[Speaker 4] (1:43:58 - 1:44:03)
where people that lived past the fish house heard what was going on at the mission.

[Speaker 4] (1:44:03 - 1:44:05)
And what we did was we just said...

[Speaker 4] (1:44:05 - 1:44:17)
You have your music in-house as long as we don't and as long as no one hears it outside, you're you're good to go. So I think if we could do something like that in this situation

[Speaker 2] (1:44:18 - 1:44:22)
I do want to be cognizant of the fact, though, to Craig's point,

[Speaker 2] (1:44:22 - 1:44:24)
we do have outside concerts,

[Speaker 2] (1:44:24 - 1:44:25)
right,

[Speaker 2] (1:44:25 - 1:44:26)
multiple a summer,

[Speaker 2] (1:44:26 - 1:44:27)
where

[Speaker 4] (1:44:27 - 1:44:27)
Right.

[Speaker 2] (1:44:27 - 1:44:29)
you can certainly hear that music at

[Speaker 3] (1:44:29 - 1:44:30)
You can.

[Speaker 2] (1:44:30 - 1:44:31)
eight o'clock,

[Speaker 2] (1:44:31 - 1:44:31)
8.30.

[Speaker 2] (1:44:32 - 1:44:34)
from many points in this town.

[Speaker 3] (1:44:34 - 1:44:34)
Mm.

[Speaker 2] (1:44:34 - 1:44:43)
And I I don't want to see us subject or restrict local businesses, especially one that's been here almost twenty years, with an unfair

[Speaker 2] (1:44:44 - 1:44:59)
set of parameters when we as a town we love people to come to a Swamp-toberfest or a concert or this or that and there are rowdy people sometimes sure there's loud music all the time right so what are we really saying you

[Speaker 8] (1:44:59 - 1:45:00)
Well, I do think

[Speaker 2] (1:45:00 - 1:45:00)
know

[Speaker 8] (1:45:00 - 1:45:05)
those are two different things though. I I think that there's a on the surface they seem equal,

[Speaker 8] (1:45:05 - 1:45:09)
but on they're different in a sense Right one is a very public venue.

[Speaker 8] (1:45:09 - 1:45:10)
We have it five times a year

[Speaker 8] (1:45:10 - 1:45:20)
year, whatever it is, right. This could be a hundred times a year, two times a week, right. And it's for a specific restaurant. Um so those are kind of different

[Speaker 8] (1:45:21 - 1:45:23)
audiences and different uses to it.

[Speaker 2] (1:45:23 - 1:45:28)
But it's a it's a vocal issue, right? It's a sound issue. It's an interfering with people's time, right?

[Speaker 8] (1:45:28 - 1:45:29)
I understand that.

[Speaker 2] (1:45:29 - 1:45:29)
Right?

[Speaker 8] (1:45:29 - 1:45:32)
I mean, but you have to still just simply five versus a hundred.

[Speaker 2] (1:45:32 - 1:45:34)
I don't know that it's five. It's more than five.

[Speaker 4] (1:45:34 - 1:45:34)
Six.

[Speaker 2] (1:45:34 - 1:45:35)
There are more than five concerts.

[Speaker 4] (1:45:35 - 1:45:35)
Sixteen.

[Speaker 2] (1:45:36 - 1:45:36)
Right.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:36 - 1:45:38)
Twenty. But but

[Speaker 2] (1:45:38 - 1:45:38)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:38 - 1:45:38)
but to that to

[Speaker 2] (1:45:38 - 1:45:39)
That

[Speaker 6] (1:45:39 - 1:45:39)
that point

[Speaker 2] (1:45:39 - 1:45:41)
movie screen when it's up is real loud.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:41 - 1:45:41)
but but

[Speaker 2] (1:45:41 - 1:45:42)
Right?

[Speaker 6] (1:45:42 - 1:45:42)
but to that

[Speaker 4] (1:45:42 - 1:45:42)
Twenty

[Speaker 6] (1:45:42 - 1:45:42)
to that

[Speaker 4] (1:45:42 - 1:45:42)
week.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:42 - 1:45:46)
to that point I think if you got rid of your brass instruments and you and you and you

[Speaker 6] (1:45:47 - 1:45:47)
If you

[Speaker 8] (1:45:47 - 1:45:47)
You didn't

[Speaker 6] (1:45:47 - 1:45:47)
had a

[Speaker 8] (1:45:47 - 1:45:47)
sign.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:47 - 1:45:48)
you had acoustic

[Speaker 2] (1:45:48 - 1:45:48)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:48 - 1:45:50)
guitars, you kept the door shut.

[Speaker 8] (1:45:50 - 1:45:50)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:50 - 1:45:55)
When the door opens you're still going to hear some of the some of that noise, but it is going to be greatly mitigated.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:56 - 1:45:56)
Um

[Speaker 4] (1:45:56 - 1:45:56)
Mm.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:56 - 1:45:59)
I think that's a to me that would be a fair

[Speaker 8] (1:45:59 - 1:45:59)
Sure.

[Speaker 6] (1:45:59 - 1:46:00)
that would be

[Speaker 2] (1:46:00 - 1:46:00)
Sounds

[Speaker 6] (1:46:00 - 1:46:01)
a fair

[Speaker 2] (1:46:01 - 1:46:01)
like you're

[Speaker 6] (1:46:01 - 1:46:02)
a you're fair compromise.

[Speaker 2] (1:46:02 - 1:46:02)
all

[Speaker 1] (1:46:03 - 1:46:04)
Um again,

[Speaker 1] (1:46:05 - 1:46:23)
I came here, didn't not know, my fear was it was going to be a license till 10 or 11 o'clock at night and with all the drinking and all the partying and we've heard the music and then we've heard now we're going to hear them all empty out and that was, I was glad to hear that this was a little window that was proposed.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:23 - 1:46:25)
Again I am concerned about creep.

[Speaker 1] (1:46:26 - 1:46:38)
you know it going up to 10 and beyond so not only am I starting my day listening to trucks I'm finishing my day listening to music and rowdy people

[Speaker 3] (1:46:39 - 1:46:41)
Can we just clarify what the hours of Little G are?

[Speaker 7] (1:46:42 - 1:46:51)
We're open from 4 p.m. till 10 p.m. and usually towards the fall and winter 9 p.m. Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:46:52 - 1:46:52)
We're

[Speaker 4] (1:46:52 - 1:46:52)
What

[Speaker 7] (1:46:52 - 1:46:53)
a family restaurant.

[Speaker 2] (1:46:53 - 1:46:55)
In your deliveries, what on

[Speaker 7] (1:46:55 - 1:46:55)
We don't

[Speaker 2] (1:46:55 - 1:46:56)
average,

[Speaker 7] (1:46:56 - 1:46:56)
do deliveries.

[Speaker 2] (1:46:56 - 1:46:57)
what you don't do deliveries,

[Speaker 7] (1:46:57 - 1:46:57)
Nope.

[Speaker 2] (1:46:57 - 1:46:58)
so you don't have

[Speaker 4] (1:46:58 - 1:46:59)
You don't have a choice.

[Speaker 8] (1:46:59 - 1:47:00)
You know, you mean,

[Speaker 7] (1:47:00 - 1:47:00)
Oh,

[Speaker 8] (1:47:00 - 1:47:01)
you mean

[Speaker 7] (1:47:01 - 1:47:02)
deliveries hurt.

[Speaker 2] (1:47:02 - 1:47:02)
Oh,

[Speaker 7] (1:47:02 - 1:47:02)
Oh, deliveries

[Speaker 2] (1:47:02 - 1:47:02)
it's gone.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:02 - 1:47:03)
Sorry.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:03 - 1:47:03)
hurt us.

[Speaker 2] (1:47:03 - 1:47:04)
Yeah, your

[Speaker 7] (1:47:04 - 1:47:04)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (1:47:04 - 1:47:05)
deliveries, your restaurant deliveries. What time does it

[Speaker 7] (1:47:05 - 1:47:08)
I could look at when the deliveries are made.

[Speaker 2] (1:47:08 - 1:47:09)
Are they typically

[Speaker 7] (1:47:09 - 1:47:09)
We only

[Speaker 2] (1:47:09 - 1:47:10)
that early in the morning?

[Speaker 7] (1:47:10 - 1:47:15)
have one company that's our produce company that comes in the morning, but it's

[Speaker 2] (1:47:15 - 1:47:17)
It's probably not, is it 6 a.m.? Is that?

[Speaker 7] (1:47:17 - 1:47:20)
I mean, I don't know if it's 6 a.m. I would say,

[Speaker 2] (1:47:21 - 1:47:22)
But sometime in the morning.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:22 - 1:47:27)
I mean, I've called all my distributors and the trash companies and told them that we have an ordinance.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:27 - 1:47:32)
It's in town at for 7 a.m. There's nothing to be done to happen before 7 a.m.

[Speaker 2] (1:47:32 - 1:47:32)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:32 - 1:47:39)
And I've called and complained many times to all my purveyors. Can I pull them I can mean wh what else can I do?

[Speaker 2] (1:47:39 - 1:47:39)
Absolutely.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:39 - 1:47:41)
And I need my product, right?

[Speaker 2] (1:47:41 - 1:47:41)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:41 - 1:47:41)
So

[Speaker 2] (1:47:41 - 1:47:41)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:41 - 1:47:42)
I mean

[Speaker 1] (1:47:42 - 1:47:44)
Is it six or seven a.m?

[Speaker 2] (1:47:46 - 1:47:46)
It's a great question.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:46 - 1:47:47)
I don't remember.

[Speaker 2] (1:47:47 - 1:47:47)
If you don't

[Speaker 7] (1:47:47 - 1:47:47)
I thought it was

[Speaker 2] (1:47:47 - 1:47:47)
know.

[Speaker 7] (1:47:47 - 1:47:48)
7 a.m. So

[Speaker 3] (1:47:48 - 1:47:49)
We can find out.

[Speaker 8] (1:47:50 - 1:47:51)
I think it's written anywhere, but it's

[Speaker 4] (1:47:52 - 1:47:52)
Yes.

[Speaker 3] (1:47:53 - 1:47:53)
But if it's he's

[Speaker 2] (1:47:53 - 1:47:53)
perceived

[Speaker 3] (1:47:53 - 1:47:54)
telling to

[Speaker 2] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
that

[Speaker 7] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
But

[Speaker 3] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
them

[Speaker 2] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
is

[Speaker 7] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
but I'm

[Speaker 2] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
that

[Speaker 7] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
trying

[Speaker 3] (1:47:54 - 1:47:54)
that

[Speaker 7] (1:47:54 - 1:47:55)
to do

[Speaker 3] (1:47:55 - 1:47:55)
award

[Speaker 7] (1:47:55 - 1:47:55)
I've

[Speaker 2] (1:47:55 - 1:47:55)
as a benefit

[Speaker 7] (1:47:55 - 1:47:55)
always

[Speaker 3] (1:47:55 - 1:47:56)
is a benefit

[Speaker 7] (1:47:56 - 1:47:56)
been

[Speaker 3] (1:47:56 - 1:47:56)
to

[Speaker 7] (1:47:56 - 1:48:18)
in eight in almost 20 years I feel like I've always been respectful to my neighbors always and and to the trash for me because because I am of I keep a very clean place I we wash out our barrels our trash is picked up every single day you know that my back area is swept and sprayed down I mean there's

[Speaker 4] (1:48:18 - 1:48:18)
Right.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:19 - 1:48:21)
It's almost like you can't win, because if

[Speaker 7] (1:48:21 - 1:48:21)
I can't

[Speaker 2] (1:48:21 - 1:48:21)
you don't

[Speaker 7] (1:48:21 - 1:48:21)
win.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:21 - 1:48:21)
do that,

[Speaker 7] (1:48:21 - 1:48:21)
There's rats.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:21 - 1:48:22)
you're going to, you're encouraging rats.

[Speaker 7] (1:48:22 - 1:48:23)
Rats live by the ocean.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:23 - 1:48:26)
If you do do that, then there's noise from that. So it's it's a very difficult

[Speaker 4] (1:48:26 - 1:48:27)
Right.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:27 - 1:48:28)
thing to balance. And

[Speaker 7] (1:48:28 - 1:48:28)
But

[Speaker 2] (1:48:28 - 1:48:28)
I I recognize

[Speaker 7] (1:48:28 - 1:48:28)
we do try.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:28 - 1:48:29)
that.

[Speaker 7] (1:48:29 - 1:48:29)
We do try.

[Speaker 2] (1:48:29 - 1:48:30)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:48:30 - 1:48:30)
For

[Speaker 3] (1:48:30 - 1:48:30)
So

[Speaker 7] (1:48:30 - 1:48:30)
sure.

[Speaker 3] (1:48:30 - 1:48:36)
what we, I think, as a product of this conversation, what we don't want to happen is we don't want the continued.

[Speaker 3] (1:48:37 - 1:48:37)
We want the relationship

[Speaker 1] (1:48:37 - 1:48:38)
That's good,

[Speaker 3] (1:48:38 - 1:49:06)
to yeah. grow and we want the neighborly conduct to continue in a way that Creep is no longer a concern because you have built trust that this is what he it is what he says it is and it's not going to change and so I think the suggestion would be to approve the license as the limited time frame with the parameters discussed that Mr. Brackman keeps his word as he's spoken to us and to you.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:05 - 1:49:09)
to you and that maybe going forward there'll be

[Speaker 2] (1:49:09 - 1:49:10)
Community

[Speaker 1] (1:49:10 - 1:49:10)
quarterly

[Speaker 2] (1:49:10 - 1:49:10)
conversation.

[Speaker 1] (1:49:10 - 1:49:16)
with like a community conversation in that neighborhood to understand listing out all the issues you know

[Speaker 1] (1:49:18 - 1:49:32)
some of these discussed tonight but I'm sure there are other ones which you haven't thought of but let's list out all the issues and let's try to figure out which departments in the town can help you solve some of those issues or help mitigate some of those issues both for the restaurateur and the community.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:32 - 1:49:39)
Can I just say one thing with just addressing your your concern for the creep because I do respect that if

[Speaker 3] (1:49:41 - 1:49:47)
Our liquor license says 11 p.m. Um we're we're to be done serving alcohol before that.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:47 - 1:49:56)
And all of our um employees need to be out of the building by 11 p.m. right? So that's the law that's written and what's said on our license.

[Speaker 3] (1:49:57 - 1:50:04)
Same thing with our our if we are approved with this this entertainment um if we have hours of 9 p.m.

[Speaker 3] (1:50:05 - 1:50:15)
Then at 9 p.m. it ends at 9 p.m., and we have to abide by that. And me as a Christian man and an honest man and a family man,

[Speaker 3] (1:50:15 - 1:50:19)
I abide to what I'm supposed to be doing. I've been doing it for 20 years.

[Speaker 3] (1:50:19 - 1:50:22)
There's never been an issue at my restaurant,

[Speaker 3] (1:50:22 - 1:50:24)
so I just,

[Speaker 3] (1:50:24 - 1:50:25)
that's...

[Speaker 3] (1:50:25 - 1:50:28)
There should be no creep because there's written rules, right?

[Speaker 4] (1:50:29 - 1:50:29)
Absolutely.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:30 - 1:50:33)
Okay, so the motion was seconded. So if

[Speaker 4] (1:50:33 - 1:50:33)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:33 - 1:50:37)
if the discussion is completed, we'll move to a vote, if everyone's okay with that.

[Speaker 4] (1:50:37 - 1:50:38)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:38 - 1:50:44)
Okay, so all those in favour of approving the amended entertainment licence for G Bar and Kitchen?

[Speaker 4] (1:50:44 - 1:50:45)
Aye.

[Speaker 3] (1:50:45 - 1:50:45)
Aye.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:45 - 1:50:45)
Aye.

[Speaker 5] (1:50:45 - 1:50:45)
Aye.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:46 - 1:50:49)
Okay, opposed would be none. So thank you very much

[Speaker 3] (1:50:49 - 1:50:49)
Thank

[Speaker 1] (1:50:49 - 1:50:52)
for coming in and participating and we

[Speaker 6] (1:50:52 - 1:50:52)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:52 - 1:50:55)
will have somebody reach out regarding um

[Speaker 6] (1:50:55 - 1:50:57)
That's your first order of business now.

[Speaker 1] (1:50:57 - 1:51:00)
community uh a community meeting and

[Speaker 1] (1:51:01 - 1:51:01)
Um,

[Speaker 7] (1:51:01 - 1:51:02)
Every Thursday night if you can

[Speaker 6] (1:51:02 - 1:51:02)
go right.

[Speaker 7] (1:51:02 - 1:51:05)
by to the restaurant at nine o'clock, they were waiting

[Speaker 1] (1:51:05 - 1:51:05)
Moira,

[Speaker 6] (1:51:05 - 1:51:05)
for that too.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:05 - 1:51:16)
if you have a list of community members who have concern and it is able to be shared so that Marcy could reach out to them, or somebody from town hall could reach out to them to invite them, or you would be willing to invite them,

[Speaker 6] (1:51:16 - 1:51:16)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (1:51:16 - 1:51:22)
then we would love to hear, you know, from the neighbourhood. Or if you want to hold a neighbourhood meeting and have us

[Speaker 6] (1:51:22 - 1:51:22)
You

[Speaker 1] (1:51:22 - 1:51:22)
join you.

[Speaker 6] (1:51:22 - 1:51:27)
know these, these uh concerns are only going to grow once the hotel is completed.

[Speaker 7] (1:51:27 - 1:51:27)
Yep.

[Speaker 6] (1:51:27 - 1:51:27)
Right.

[Speaker 8] (1:51:27 - 1:51:27)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (1:51:28 - 1:51:28)
Yep.

[Speaker 8] (1:51:28 - 1:51:28)
And

[Speaker 1] (1:51:28 - 1:51:28)
Well, that's

[Speaker 8] (1:51:28 - 1:51:29)
so

[Speaker 1] (1:51:29 - 1:51:29)
why that's we should start

[Speaker 6] (1:51:29 - 1:51:29)
But that's

[Speaker 8] (1:51:29 - 1:51:29)
I

[Speaker 1] (1:51:29 - 1:51:29)
now.

[Speaker 6] (1:51:29 - 1:51:30)
what we need to start

[Speaker 8] (1:51:30 - 1:51:30)
want

[Speaker 6] (1:51:30 - 1:51:30)
now,

[Speaker 8] (1:51:30 - 1:51:30)
to

[Speaker 6] (1:51:30 - 1:51:30)
yeah.

[Speaker 8] (1:51:30 - 1:51:32)
to, you know, come here,

[Speaker 6] (1:51:32 - 1:51:33)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 8] (1:51:33 - 1:51:52)
because it's it's at a tender state right now and given what's going to be down the pike between parking, rats, uh no parking for vendors for these six big trucks, you know, them you turning in Humphrey Street.

[Speaker 8] (1:51:53 - 1:52:04)
It's a lot, a very tight space and it really doesn't seem like the neighbors are being represented in their concerns.

[Speaker 8] (1:52:04 - 1:52:05)
Thank you.

[Speaker 7] (1:52:05 - 1:52:05)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:05 - 1:52:06)
Thank you.

[Speaker 6] (1:52:06 - 1:52:06)
Definitely.

[Speaker 7] (1:52:06 - 1:52:07)
Thank you.

[Speaker 3] (1:52:07 - 1:52:07)
Thanks.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:09 - 1:52:18)
All right. Moving on to the last item on our meeting of old business which is discussion and prioritization of the select board goals.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:20 - 1:52:20)
So,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:21 - 1:52:25)
Diane made a very lovely chart from the last meeting. Thank you, Diane,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:25 - 1:52:29)
which listed out by board member the,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:29 - 1:52:34)
um, the goals that each of us listed. And I think the task today,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:35 - 1:52:37)
similar to what we did, um,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:37 - 1:52:39)
at that Saturday meeting we had,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:39 - 1:52:40)
um,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:40 - 1:52:43)
a year or a little, I guess it was over a year ago now,

[Speaker 1] (1:52:43 - 1:52:47)
is to sort of prioritize from our lists, you know, one to five.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:48 - 1:52:51)
goals so that we can have real clear communication.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:52 - 1:52:52)
Nick

[Speaker 1] (1:52:54 - 1:52:57)
what he should be prioritizing going forward.

[Speaker 1] (1:52:58 - 1:53:20)
And I think you know just this chart alone is good for us to be keeping track of as we go adding to or taking away because you know for example we were able to point to one of the goals today when we were talking about whether or not something should happen and if it's facilitating a goal moving forward we should be confident in the way we're moving and then you know hopefully that helps.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:20 - 1:53:30)
with this court among us five because if we've said today that it's a goal moving forward and it remains a goal then we should feel confident in moving in that direction

[Speaker 1] (1:53:32 - 1:53:38)
so I guess I think the last time we did this correct me if I'm wrong we sort of like everybody got one

[Speaker 1] (1:53:39 - 1:53:40)
Or two votes

[Speaker 8] (1:53:40 - 1:53:40)
Three.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:40 - 1:53:42)
or oh was it three?

[Speaker 1] (1:53:42 - 1:53:42)
Okay,

[Speaker 8] (1:53:42 - 1:53:42)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (1:53:42 - 1:53:43)
sorry.

[Speaker 8] (1:53:43 - 1:53:43)
three votes.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:43 - 1:53:45)
See, I think somebody would correct me if I was wrong.

[Speaker 8] (1:53:45 - 1:53:45)
Three

[Speaker 1] (1:53:45 - 1:53:46)
Three votes.

[Speaker 8] (1:53:46 - 1:53:47)
votes, maybe about two.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:47 - 1:53:48)
And we rank them. Go ahead, Doug.

[Speaker 7] (1:53:48 - 1:53:55)
I just wanted to make a correction. I would love for the climate leader investment decision to be $100 million, but it was only $1 million,

[Speaker 6] (1:53:55 - 1:53:55)
I

[Speaker 7] (1:53:55 - 1:53:55)
okay?

[Speaker 6] (1:53:55 - 1:53:56)
saw that.

[Speaker 8] (1:53:56 - 1:53:57)
Nobody

[Speaker 7] (1:53:57 - 1:53:57)
Yes,

[Speaker 8] (1:53:57 - 1:53:57)
saw

[Speaker 1] (1:53:57 - 1:53:57)
I am.

[Speaker 8] (1:53:57 - 1:53:58)
that. Come on.

[Speaker 6] (1:53:58 - 1:53:58)
Come on.

[Speaker 1] (1:53:58 - 1:54:00)
You and Doug are in cahoots.

[Speaker 7] (1:54:00 - 1:54:01)
It could be thousands,

[Speaker 7] (1:54:01 - 1:54:01)
but it's

[Speaker 6] (1:54:01 - 1:54:01)
You're

[Speaker 7] (1:54:01 - 1:54:02)
not.

[Speaker 6] (1:54:02 - 1:54:02)
honestly, Doug.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:02 - 1:54:03)
Okay.

[Speaker 6] (1:54:04 - 1:54:04)
Well,

[Speaker 1] (1:54:04 - 1:54:05)
All right,

[Speaker 6] (1:54:05 - 1:54:05)
let's see.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:05 - 1:54:05)
so

[Speaker 1] (1:54:08 - 1:54:13)
Do we want to, Debbie didn't bring your eraser or your markers, but we have some.

[Speaker 7] (1:54:13 - 1:54:17)
I'm not sure whether or not, now I'm questioning whether or not, you know,

[Speaker 7] (1:54:17 - 1:54:22)
Katie and Mary Ellen, they stack the deck with, like, all their long list

[Speaker 6] (1:54:22 - 1:54:22)
Oh yeah.

[Speaker 7] (1:54:22 - 1:54:23)
of priorities.

[Speaker 6] (1:54:23 - 1:54:26)
So my priority list was longer. It's just that Danielle added,

[Speaker 6] (1:54:26 - 1:54:31)
Danielle got most of them and then David got the rest of them and then

[Speaker 1] (1:54:31 - 1:54:31)
Yeah,

[Speaker 6] (1:54:31 - 1:54:31)
you dropped

[Speaker 1] (1:54:31 - 1:54:31)
I mean,

[Speaker 6] (1:54:31 - 1:54:32)
them. I went

[Speaker 7] (1:54:32 - 1:54:32)
either.

[Speaker 6] (1:54:32 - 1:54:32)
last,

[Speaker 1] (1:54:32 - 1:54:32)
none

[Speaker 6] (1:54:32 - 1:54:32)
so.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:32 - 1:54:33)
of these are sold.

[Speaker 7] (1:54:33 - 1:54:34)
I wasn't even here.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:34 - 1:54:34)
Thanks buddies.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:35 - 1:54:35)
That

[Speaker 7] (1:54:35 - 1:54:36)
Boy, they're they're very

[Speaker 1] (1:54:36 - 1:54:36)
getting

[Speaker 7] (1:54:36 - 1:54:36)
sensitive.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:36 - 1:54:36)
up.

[Speaker 6] (1:54:36 - 1:54:38)
We're always to blame, David,

[Speaker 7] (1:54:38 - 1:54:38)
It's

[Speaker 6] (1:54:38 - 1:54:38)
what

[Speaker 7] (1:54:38 - 1:54:38)
not

[Speaker 6] (1:54:38 - 1:54:38)
do we

[Speaker 7] (1:54:38 - 1:54:38)
I

[Speaker 6] (1:54:38 - 1:54:38)
do?

[Speaker 7] (1:54:38 - 1:54:39)
know.

[Speaker 9] (1:54:39 - 1:54:39)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (1:54:41 - 1:54:42)
All right, so how do

[Speaker 1] (1:54:42 - 1:54:42)
So

[Speaker 9] (1:54:42 - 1:54:42)
we wrap this up?

[Speaker 6] (1:54:42 - 1:54:44)
why don't we just have this whole I mean like why

[Speaker 1] (1:54:44 - 1:54:46)
We ca listen, we

[Speaker 8] (1:54:46 - 1:54:46)
The

[Speaker 1] (1:54:46 - 1:54:46)
can.

[Speaker 8] (1:54:46 - 1:54:46)
whole thing.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:46 - 1:54:48)
All of these are select board goals.

[Speaker 8] (1:54:48 - 1:54:48)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:48 - 1:54:50)
It's not saying that any one of these shouldn't be worked towards.

[Speaker 8] (1:54:50 - 1:54:50)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:54:50 - 1:55:00)
But what is confusing for any particular person who is potentially taking on a leadership role and started on Monday would be how to prioritize the list that we've given them.

[Speaker 8] (1:55:00 - 1:55:00)
We want

[Speaker 1] (1:55:00 - 1:55:00)
So that's

[Speaker 8] (1:55:00 - 1:55:02)
to set Nicholas Connors up for success here

[Speaker 9] (1:55:02 - 1:55:02)
He

[Speaker 8] (1:55:02 - 1:55:02)
right

[Speaker 1] (1:55:02 - 1:55:02)
right.

[Speaker 9] (1:55:02 - 1:55:02)
only

[Speaker 8] (1:55:02 - 1:55:03)
now,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:03 - 1:55:03)
So

[Speaker 9] (1:55:03 - 1:55:03)
has like I'm it's one page.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:03 - 1:55:03)
just saying

[Speaker 9] (1:55:03 - 1:55:04)
only one

[Speaker 1] (1:55:04 - 1:55:04)
like

[Speaker 7] (1:55:04 - 1:55:04)
do.

[Speaker 9] (1:55:04 - 1:55:04)
page.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:04 - 1:55:04)
let's

[Speaker 9] (1:55:04 - 1:55:05)
He can handle one

[Speaker 1] (1:55:05 - 1:55:05)
see and

[Speaker 9] (1:55:05 - 1:55:05)
page,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:05 - 1:55:05)
Well,

[Speaker 8] (1:55:05 - 1:55:05)
Matt.

[Speaker 9] (1:55:05 - 1:55:06)
right?

[Speaker 1] (1:55:06 - 1:55:06)
but

[Speaker 9] (1:55:06 - 1:55:06)
I mean, it's

[Speaker 1] (1:55:06 - 1:55:06)
I'm

[Speaker 9] (1:55:06 - 1:55:06)
30

[Speaker 1] (1:55:06 - 1:55:07)
just saying

[Speaker 9] (1:55:07 - 1:55:07)
things.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:07 - 1:55:08)
let's hear from

[Speaker 8] (1:55:08 - 1:55:08)
Exactly.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:08 - 1:55:13)
first of all, he did not participate in the last conversation, although I'm sure he watched this last select board meeting.

[Speaker 7] (1:55:13 - 1:55:13)
I wish.

[Speaker 9] (1:55:13 - 1:55:14)
I was scared

[Speaker 7] (1:55:14 - 1:55:14)
He was scared

[Speaker 1] (1:55:14 - 1:55:14)
for Oh,

[Speaker 9] (1:55:14 - 1:55:14)
that

[Speaker 7] (1:55:14 - 1:55:14)
of

[Speaker 9] (1:55:14 - 1:55:14)
oh,

[Speaker 7] (1:55:14 - 1:55:14)
you her.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:14 - 1:55:15)
you were?

[Speaker 7] (1:55:15 - 1:55:15)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:15 - 1:55:15)
Oh,

[Speaker 7] (1:55:15 - 1:55:15)
Yeah,

[Speaker 9] (1:55:15 - 1:55:15)
I was scared

[Speaker 1] (1:55:15 - 1:55:15)
oh

[Speaker 7] (1:55:15 - 1:55:15)
I was

[Speaker 9] (1:55:15 - 1:55:16)
of that point,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:16 - 1:55:16)
gosh.

[Speaker 9] (1:55:16 - 1:55:16)
yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:16 - 1:55:23)
I totally forgot. Um, but I think it's important that we prioritize them. I think it is for us too,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:23 - 1:55:29)
because you know, if something comes up that one of us hears about and we know it's in the top, it's related to something in the top five,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:29 - 1:55:31)
we should feel confident to bring it forward,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:31 - 1:55:35)
you know, as a group and, and to champion it. Um,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:35 - 1:55:35)
I,

[Speaker 8] (1:55:35 - 1:55:37)
What about if we rank them A, B, C?

[Speaker 1] (1:55:38 - 1:55:40)
what is the difference between ABC and one through

[Speaker 7] (1:55:40 - 1:55:40)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:40 - 1:55:40)
three?

[Speaker 8] (1:55:40 - 1:55:41)
Well, because if you don't have one,

[Speaker 8] (1:55:42 - 1:55:42)
two.

[Speaker 10] (1:55:42 - 1:55:48)
like if you're saying I can only vote on two, I might say okay, this is an A, that's an A, that's an A, that's an A.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:48 - 1:55:49)
Oh, so you wanna categorise

[Speaker 8] (1:55:49 - 1:55:49)
You wanna

[Speaker 1] (1:55:49 - 1:55:49)
an

[Speaker 8] (1:55:49 - 1:55:49)
grade

[Speaker 1] (1:55:49 - 1:55:50)
A

[Speaker 8] (1:55:50 - 1:55:50)
them,

[Speaker 1] (1:55:50 - 1:55:50)
group, a

[Speaker 8] (1:55:50 - 1:55:50)
grade.

[Speaker 1] (1:55:50 - 1:55:52)
B group and a C group, like a tier system?

[Speaker 10] (1:55:52 - 1:55:52)
Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (1:55:53 - 1:55:53)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (1:55:53 - 1:55:54)
Well I I actually that's interesting.

[Speaker 8] (1:55:54 - 1:55:55)
That makes sense.

[Speaker 7] (1:55:55 - 1:56:03)
It does because I was wondering about some of these uh I was actually looking at some in your your column Mary Ellen and whether or not you felt as though you

[Speaker 10] (1:56:03 - 1:56:04)
Guess they're all picking on my column,

[Speaker 8] (1:56:04 - 1:56:04)
Yeah,

[Speaker 7] (1:56:04 - 1:56:04)
No no,

[Speaker 8] (1:56:04 - 1:56:05)
I think she

[Speaker 7] (1:56:05 - 1:56:05)
no, that's

[Speaker 10] (1:56:05 - 1:56:05)
I'm not gonna get into just that.

[Speaker 7] (1:56:05 - 1:56:06)
just because you got

[Speaker 10] (1:56:06 - 1:56:06)
I'm

[Speaker 7] (1:56:06 - 1:56:06)
to

[Speaker 10] (1:56:06 - 1:56:06)
not go, taking it

[Speaker 7] (1:56:06 - 1:56:06)
y

[Speaker 10] (1:56:06 - 1:56:07)
personal, but

[Speaker 7] (1:56:07 - 1:56:11)
you got to go first you know, and you have this long list so we're trying to

[Speaker 7] (1:56:11 - 1:56:11)
trying to prune it down,

[Speaker 8] (1:56:11 - 1:56:12)
I went

[Speaker 7] (1:56:12 - 1:56:12)
you

[Speaker 10] (1:56:12 - 1:56:12)
Oh,

[Speaker 7] (1:56:12 - 1:56:12)
know.

[Speaker 10] (1:56:12 - 1:56:12)
last.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:12 - 1:56:13)
it was she went last.

[Speaker 7] (1:56:13 - 1:56:13)
Um yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:14 - 1:56:14)
So she did.

[Speaker 10] (1:56:15 - 1:56:15)
I went last.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:15 - 1:56:16)
She went last.

[Speaker 7] (1:56:16 - 1:56:16)
But Doug went.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:16 - 1:56:16)
We

[Speaker 7] (1:56:16 - 1:56:16)
I'm

[Speaker 1] (1:56:16 - 1:56:16)
read

[Speaker 7] (1:56:16 - 1:56:16)
a last.

[Speaker 10] (1:56:16 - 1:56:17)
But

[Speaker 1] (1:56:17 - 1:56:17)
no,

[Speaker 7] (1:56:17 - 1:56:17)
Doug went last.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:17 - 1:56:19)
David wasn't here. We read David first.

[Speaker 8] (1:56:20 - 1:56:21)
last I was here before.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:22 - 1:56:24)
But yeah, it's Marian went last.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:24 - 1:56:24)
She has a picture.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:25 - 1:56:26)
Um anyway,

[Speaker 8] (1:56:26 - 1:56:26)
I went

[Speaker 1] (1:56:26 - 1:56:27)
so it really

[Speaker 7] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
I

[Speaker 8] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
to

[Speaker 1] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
just

[Speaker 7] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
one

[Speaker 1] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
anyways,

[Speaker 8] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
of

[Speaker 7] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
of your

[Speaker 1] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
your guys

[Speaker 7] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
classes.

[Speaker 8] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
I was

[Speaker 1] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
just

[Speaker 8] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
last

[Speaker 7] (1:56:27 - 1:56:27)
want to

[Speaker 1] (1:56:27 - 1:56:28)
wobbly

[Speaker 7] (1:56:28 - 1:56:28)
claim my last

[Speaker 8] (1:56:28 - 1:56:28)
last.

[Speaker 3] (1:56:28 - 1:56:28)
Let's

[Speaker 1] (1:56:28 - 1:56:28)
and unnecessary.

[Speaker 3] (1:56:28 - 1:56:30)
just let's get to the business.

[Speaker 10] (1:56:30 - 1:56:31)
All right, let's get to the

[Speaker 1] (1:56:31 - 1:56:31)
Okay,

[Speaker 10] (1:56:31 - 1:56:31)
business.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:31 - 1:56:32)
so I think yes,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:33 - 1:56:33)
A,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:33 - 1:56:35)
B, C is fine. We can do that.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:35 - 1:56:35)
Maybe that's helpful.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:35 - 1:56:36)
So going through,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:36 - 1:56:38)
we should just be

[Speaker 1] (1:56:38 - 1:56:42)
We'll start at the trash contract. So are we considering that an A,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:42 - 1:56:45)
a B, or a C? And I guess, to be fair, we should define what A,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:45 - 1:56:49)
B, and C are. So an A would be like a must accomplish,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:49 - 1:56:50)
right?

[Speaker 6] (1:56:50 - 1:56:50)
In

[Speaker 8] (1:56:50 - 1:56:50)
Mm

[Speaker 6] (1:56:50 - 1:56:50)
the

[Speaker 8] (1:56:50 - 1:56:50)
-hmm.

[Speaker 6] (1:56:50 - 1:56:52)
very short-term future,

[Speaker 6] (1:56:52 - 1:56:53)
right, or priority-wise.

[Speaker 1] (1:56:53 - 1:56:58)
Are we talking 90 days, 120 days? Are we putting a time on it or no?

[Speaker 1] (1:56:58 - 1:56:58)
You're just saying,

[Speaker 1] (1:56:58 - 1:56:59)
okay.

[Speaker 7] (1:56:59 - 1:56:59)
Six months.

[Speaker 11] (1:57:01 - 1:57:05)
So you would like that completed six months in advance of the expiration?

[Speaker 11] (1:57:06 - 1:57:07)
Roughly

[Speaker 1] (1:57:07 - 1:57:07)
No,

[Speaker 11] (1:57:07 - 1:57:07)
quarterly.

[Speaker 1] (1:57:07 - 1:57:08)
that's more like in the next six months,

[Speaker 11] (1:57:08 - 1:57:09)
Within

[Speaker 1] (1:57:09 - 1:57:09)
a priority

[Speaker 11] (1:57:09 - 1:57:09)
six

[Speaker 1] (1:57:09 - 1:57:10)
in the next

[Speaker 11] (1:57:10 - 1:57:10)
months,

[Speaker 1] (1:57:10 - 1:57:10)
six

[Speaker 11] (1:57:10 - 1:57:10)
so

[Speaker 1] (1:57:10 - 1:57:10)
months

[Speaker 11] (1:57:10 - 1:57:11)
okay. Okay.

[Speaker 11] (1:57:11 - 1:57:12)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:57:12 - 1:57:13)
Up to date or yeah.

[Speaker 11] (1:57:13 - 1:57:16)
Right, it expires at the end of June, right?

[Speaker 1] (1:57:16 - 1:57:18)
It expires at the end of this fiscal year. Yeah.

[Speaker 11] (1:57:18 - 1:57:19)
Around June 30th.

[Speaker 10] (1:57:19 - 1:57:19)
Yeah, correct.

[Speaker 11] (1:57:19 - 1:57:20)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (1:57:20 - 1:57:20)
Okay,

[Speaker 1] (1:57:20 - 1:57:20)
Yeah,

[Speaker 7] (1:57:20 - 1:57:21)
so that's

[Speaker 1] (1:57:21 - 1:57:21)
but we're not.

[Speaker 7] (1:57:21 - 1:57:23)
in a different direction. So you went a different direction than I was thinking.

[Speaker 1] (1:57:23 - 1:57:23)
Okay,

[Speaker 7] (1:57:23 - 1:57:24)
So you're saying

[Speaker 1] (1:57:24 - 1:57:24)
always,

[Speaker 7] (1:57:24 - 1:57:24)
that

[Speaker 1] (1:57:24 - 1:57:24)
Doug,

[Speaker 1] (1:57:24 - 1:57:26)
you and I are always going in different directions.

[Speaker 1] (1:57:29 - 1:57:30)
What do you want to do? What would you like to do?

[Speaker 7] (1:57:30 - 1:57:40)
No, I'm just trying to make sure I'm following the ball. That's it. So my mind was going in a different direction. So I'm just the definition for A for you is a must do as opposed to like

[Speaker 7] (1:57:41 - 1:57:56)
You know a broad community-wide biggest goal versus you know like you know review the TA hiring process when I saw that like is that really in the same category as you know I you know economic development or Hawthorne

[Speaker 10] (1:57:56 - 1:57:56)
No

[Speaker 7] (1:57:56 - 1:57:59)
you know that that's what I was

[Speaker 7] (1:57:59 - 1:58:00)
separating out like

[Speaker 10] (1:58:00 - 1:58:00)
Category

[Speaker 7] (1:58:00 - 1:58:01)
yeah

[Speaker 10] (1:58:01 - 1:58:01)
categories.

[Speaker 8] (1:58:01 - 1:58:02)
Right.

[Speaker 7] (1:58:02 - 1:58:02)
okay

[Speaker 10] (1:58:02 - 1:58:02)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:58:02 - 1:58:03)
Okay, so we

[Speaker 7] (1:58:03 - 1:58:04)
but that's okay.

[Speaker 1] (1:58:04 - 1:58:08)
don't have to put a timeline on it. We these are just things that I'm saying like an A would be like a like

[Speaker 10] (1:58:08 - 1:58:09)
A priority.

[Speaker 1] (1:58:09 - 1:58:11)
the the highest priority,

[Speaker 1] (1:58:11 - 1:58:14)
right? Like something we should be working towards accomplishing.

[Speaker 10] (1:58:14 - 1:58:14)
Right

[Speaker 6] (1:58:14 - 1:58:20)
So I think we want let's pick a number right let's say top ten right so we want you know

[Speaker 8] (1:58:21 - 1:58:23)
the top ten on this entire grid,

[Speaker 1] (1:58:23 - 1:58:24)
right? Right.

[Speaker 8] (1:58:24 - 1:58:27)
And then in order of priority A_ B_ C_

[Speaker 1] (1:58:27 - 1:58:27)
Sure.

[Speaker 8] (1:58:27 - 1:58:28)
Does that make sense, right?

[Speaker 10] (1:58:28 - 1:58:41)
Well, let me ask you another question. What about if we went through e ach one of these things and just said, is it an A_ B_ or C_ and then we're done with the A_ B_s or C_s, then we go back and just say out of the A_S out of the A_s, what are the top ten A_s you gotta get done right away?

[Speaker 8] (1:58:41 - 1:58:41)
Sure.

[Speaker 1] (1:58:41 - 1:58:42)
Okay, that's great.

[Speaker 10] (1:58:42 - 1:58:45)
I mean some of these things can't be done right away, they're just a work they're a work in progress.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:45 - 1:58:46)
Can I just add one thing, like

[Speaker 8] (1:58:46 - 1:58:47)
Yes, please do.

[Speaker 10] (1:58:47 - 1:58:47)
Still.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:47 - 1:58:49)
Strategic versus tactical

[Speaker 10] (1:58:49 - 1:58:50)
Sure.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:50 - 1:58:54)
or directional? So like the trash contract has to get done regardless

[Speaker 1] (1:58:54 - 1:58:54)
of Yeah,

[Speaker 11] (1:58:54 - 1:58:55)
where you guys

[Speaker 1] (1:58:55 - 1:58:55)
right.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:55 - 1:58:55)
think it is A_

[Speaker 1] (1:58:55 - 1:58:56)
Right.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:56 - 1:58:56)
B_ or C_

[Speaker 7] (1:58:56 - 1:58:56)
Right.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:56 - 1:58:57)
or it doesn't make the list.

[Speaker 1] (1:58:57 - 1:58:57)
Yeah.

[Speaker 11] (1:58:58 - 1:58:58)
If

[Speaker 1] (1:58:58 - 1:58:58)
You

[Speaker 11] (1:58:58 - 1:58:58)
I'm

[Speaker 1] (1:58:58 - 1:58:58)
gotta do

[Speaker 11] (1:58:58 - 1:59:01)
sitting it. here in June and I have not completed that or extended

[Speaker 10] (1:59:01 - 1:59:02)
You probably

[Speaker 11] (1:59:02 - 1:59:02)
Republic in figuring

[Speaker 10] (1:59:02 - 1:59:03)
won't be here in

[Speaker 11] (1:59:03 - 1:59:03)
it out

[Speaker 10] (1:59:03 - 1:59:03)
July.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:03 - 1:59:04)
Gino can help you.

[Speaker 11] (1:59:04 - 1:59:04)
It's gonna be

[Speaker 1] (1:59:04 - 1:59:05)
It's gonna be a bad

[Speaker 3] (1:59:05 - 1:59:05)
Or Tell tell you

[Speaker 4] (1:59:05 - 1:59:05)
Rex

[Speaker 3] (1:59:05 - 1:59:06)
what to do since

[Speaker 4] (1:59:06 - 1:59:06)
Rex.

[Speaker 3] (1:59:06 - 1:59:07)
he's just gone through the last

[Speaker 4] (1:59:07 - 1:59:07)
Some of

[Speaker 1] (1:59:07 - 1:59:07)
every

[Speaker 3] (1:59:07 - 1:59:07)
three.

[Speaker 4] (1:59:07 - 1:59:09)
these won't need a grade necessarily.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:09 - 1:59:15)
Uh I'm just saying like if if you're really trying to narrow things down something like that is just a straight priority of mine regardless. It's an

[Speaker 2] (1:59:15 - 1:59:16)
expense Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 3] (1:59:16 - 1:59:16)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:16 - 1:59:19)
line good or service that we need to operate as a community.

[Speaker 2] (1:59:19 - 1:59:19)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (1:59:19 - 1:59:19)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:19 - 1:59:20)
I don't want you to

[Speaker 1] (1:59:21 - 1:59:22)
use one of your votes on that.

[Speaker 4] (1:59:23 - 1:59:23)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:23 - 1:59:29)
If there's something that is more strategic or requires research like additional regionalisation, things like that that are really

[Speaker 4] (1:59:29 - 1:59:29)
Mm sure.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:29 - 1:59:31)
like broad directiona

[Speaker 4] (1:59:31 - 1:59:31)
Visionary statement,

[Speaker 1] (1:59:31 - 1:59:33)
ideas that you want me to make sure

[Speaker 5] (1:59:34 - 1:59:34)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (1:59:34 - 1:59:35)
Steph and myself are yes, spent time on.

[Speaker 5] (1:59:35 - 1:59:38)
and you can

[Speaker 5] (1:59:38 - 1:59:51)
Just get a trash contract or you can just renew the health insurance or you can really rethink the trash contract or really rethink the health insurance. So that's two different things and I think you're thinking about the rethinks,

[Speaker 5] (1:59:52 - 1:59:52)
right,

[Speaker 5] (1:59:52 - 1:59:54)
in both of those.

[Speaker 5] (1:59:55 - 1:59:56)
So yeah.

[Speaker 1] (1:59:56 - 1:59:57)
Sure, sure.

[Speaker 4] (1:59:57 - 2:00:01)
I I would assume you're going to evaluate for the best possible scenario for the town, right?

[Speaker 4] (2:00:02 - 2:00:02)
That's

[Speaker 5] (2:00:02 - 2:00:02)
That's

[Speaker 4] (2:00:02 - 2:00:02)
what I'm

[Speaker 5] (2:00:02 - 2:00:02)
my,

[Speaker 4] (2:00:02 - 2:00:03)
that's

[Speaker 6] (2:00:03 - 2:00:03)
That's why we hired, right?

[Speaker 5] (2:00:03 - 2:00:04)
all in my charge.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:04 - 2:00:07)
Right? So that's going to be the contract and the best.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:08 - 2:00:10)
which is, you know, part of one

[Speaker 1] (2:00:10 - 2:00:10)
Yeah,

[Speaker 4] (2:00:10 - 2:00:10)
or two,

[Speaker 1] (2:00:10 - 2:00:10)
yeah.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:10 - 2:00:13)
yeah, right? And Okay. that goes without saying maybe.

[Speaker 7] (2:00:13 - 2:00:17)
Okay so we won't label trash contract because that's a must.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:17 - 2:00:17)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (2:00:17 - 2:00:18)
Not a want.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:18 - 2:00:19)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (2:00:19 - 2:00:20)
So the health insurance contract,

[Speaker 7] (2:00:21 - 2:00:23)
having a health insurance contract is a must.

[Speaker 7] (2:00:23 - 2:00:26)
But the want would be whether or not we get out of the G_I_C_ or not.

[Speaker 1] (2:00:26 - 2:00:26)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:26 - 2:00:27)
Which is a different animal.

[Speaker 7] (2:00:27 - 2:00:31)
So did we ever get a date? Did either of you?

[Speaker 4] (2:00:31 - 2:00:31)
Not yet.

[Speaker 7] (2:00:32 - 2:00:33)
get a notice

[Speaker 4] (2:00:33 - 2:00:33)
We

[Speaker 7] (2:00:33 - 2:00:44)
paid no okay so I guess to figure out if that is even plausible we need that information first correct. but what is the prioritization of that if we the

[Speaker 4] (2:00:44 - 2:00:44)
Is it time

[Speaker 7] (2:00:44 - 2:00:44)
the

[Speaker 4] (2:00:44 - 2:00:44)
or

[Speaker 7] (2:00:44 - 2:00:45)
research

[Speaker 4] (2:00:45 - 2:00:45)
money?

[Speaker 7] (2:00:45 - 2:00:48)
on that and the prioritization is it an a b or a c

[Speaker 4] (2:00:48 - 2:00:50)
I would say it's a B right now.

[Speaker 4] (2:00:50 - 2:01:10)
I would say it's a lease to be because we really need to understand how much notice they need. We have been given conflicting information in the past, so we really need to understand what what the notice requirement is for renewal, y you know. And then it's it's a whole big conversation of is it worth it, you know, what towns around us have done it, I know some have, some haven't. Is it valuable?

[Speaker 4] (2:01:10 - 2:01:11)
So it's a, yeah, it's

[Speaker 7] (2:01:11 - 2:01:12)
Okay,

[Speaker 4] (2:01:12 - 2:01:12)
probably

[Speaker 7] (2:01:12 - 2:01:13)
so we'll temporarily pencil be there.

[Speaker 7] (2:01:14 - 2:01:16)
Transition audit clarity on financial status.

[Speaker 4] (2:01:17 - 2:01:17)
Those are two totally

[Speaker 8] (2:01:17 - 2:01:18)
I think it's an A.

[Speaker 8] (2:01:20 - 2:01:21)
My opinion is that's an A.

[Speaker 5] (2:01:21 - 2:01:25)
Yeah, why don't we let the people that like propose them self categorize.

[Speaker 4] (2:01:25 - 2:01:25)
Yep.

[Speaker 5] (2:01:25 - 2:01:27)
Maybe that can help us speed along here.

[Speaker 7] (2:01:27 - 2:01:30)
Because then we'll just have to go back and have a conversation whether it's right or not.

[Speaker 4] (2:01:31 - 2:01:33)
And there's people who are going to think all those are A's, right?

[Speaker 7] (2:01:33 - 2:01:33)
Right.

[Speaker 5] (2:01:33 - 2:01:33)
Well,

[Speaker 5] (2:01:33 - 2:01:36)
they're able to label in some B's. Oh, label some

[Speaker 8] (2:01:36 - 2:01:40)
So I'll give you something. So on the transition ordered, I think based on

[Speaker 8] (2:01:42 - 2:01:52)
I just think uh that's an A_ The staffing backup, I think that's a a B_ slash C_ only because of other things that have to get done.

[Speaker 4] (2:01:52 - 2:01:52)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (2:01:52 - 2:02:02)
The review of the T_A_ hiring, I think that's a B_ slash C_ Source elimination, I think that's an A_

[Speaker 8] (2:02:03 - 2:02:06)
Um, A slash B, global update.

[Speaker 7] (2:02:06 - 2:02:07)
Stop doing slashes.

[Speaker 8] (2:02:07 - 2:02:10)
Okay, I'm sorry. So I would say source elimination is an A,

[Speaker 7] (2:02:10 - 2:02:10)
Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (2:02:10 - 2:02:14)
global update is an A, charter review,

[Speaker 8] (2:02:15 - 2:02:17)
uh, I think that's an A,

[Speaker 7] (2:02:17 - 2:02:18)
it's Okay.

[Speaker 8] (2:02:18 - 2:02:20)
got to get into place, and town-wide calendar I'd say is a B.

[Speaker 7] (2:02:22 - 2:02:25)
Okay, so now, Doug, do you want to just go through and say, does anybody disagree?

[Speaker 7] (2:02:27 - 2:02:29)
Because I would say the town-wide calendar,

[Speaker 7] (2:02:29 - 2:02:32)
which sort of goes to the communication improvements,

[Speaker 7] (2:02:32 - 2:02:33)
is an A because

[Speaker 4] (2:02:33 - 2:02:34)
I would agree with that.

[Speaker 1] (2:02:34 - 2:02:34)
Agreed.

[Speaker 7] (2:02:34 - 2:02:47)
I really feel like that is one of the reasons why we keep getting dinged for transparency and a bunch of other stuff and I feel like there are tangible solutions that we could be implementing. Yes, some of them cost money,

[Speaker 7] (2:02:47 - 2:02:53)
but some of them can just be practice-based and we should be doing that.

[Speaker 4] (2:02:54 - 2:02:54)
I agree.

[Speaker 8] (2:02:55 - 2:02:56)
I'm I'm good with that.

[Speaker 7] (2:02:56 - 2:03:00)
Okay. Does anybody have any other feelings on other

[Speaker 4] (2:03:00 - 2:03:08)
I personally think reviewing the T.A. hiring process could be a C, because considering the fact that we're sitting next to one right now, I think that

[Speaker 1] (2:03:08 - 2:03:08)
I agree.

[Speaker 4] (2:03:08 - 2:03:09)
um

[Speaker 7] (2:03:09 - 2:03:09)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (2:03:09 - 2:03:20)
not that you know I have high hopes here, so I'm gonna say a C_ Um the health insurance contract I think is a D_ we still have that. I have to say um

[Speaker 4] (2:03:21 - 2:03:38)
The charter review, I also think is a C given what we have, I really do, I think it's a massive undertaking and I think that what all that we have on our plate right now, it something has to take a bit of a back seat, so I think that would be a C. But that's just me. It it is important to do, I'm not saying it's not, but

[Speaker 4] (2:03:39 - 2:03:41)
I just think there are other more pressing things.

[Speaker 5] (2:03:41 - 2:03:49)
Marianne, could you just say like the most significant part of the charter review that you're interested in so we can bring that into focus what you're

[Speaker 8] (2:03:49 - 2:03:55)
Charter review really needs to be done in timely manner and we are, I think we're behind.

[Speaker 4] (2:03:55 - 2:04:13)
I think we're behind. We should have really done it maybe here. It's not gonna be a heavy lift for us because my opinion we should just put together a committee, try to review committee. Um when David was the chair, he initiated having all of the committees come back for their recommendation, so there's work that's already been done.

[Speaker 8] (2:04:13 - 2:04:13)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 4] (2:04:13 - 2:04:15)
Okay, so it's something we have to do. It's something that is

[Speaker 8] (2:04:15 - 2:04:15)
required. Well it's

[Speaker 7] (2:04:15 - 2:04:17)
I think it's a best practice.

[Speaker 5] (2:04:17 - 2:04:17)
Best practice.

[Speaker 4] (2:04:17 - 2:04:17)
Best practice.

[Speaker 7] (2:04:17 - 2:04:18)
Yeah yeah.

[Speaker 5] (2:04:18 - 2:04:18)
Every five every

[Speaker 4] (2:04:18 - 2:04:18)
So

[Speaker 5] (2:04:18 - 2:04:19)
five what five

[Speaker 7] (2:04:19 - 2:04:19)
Five

[Speaker 5] (2:04:19 - 2:04:19)
years.

[Speaker 7] (2:04:19 - 2:04:20)
years I think

[Speaker 4] (2:04:20 - 2:04:20)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (2:04:20 - 2:04:20)
it is.

[Speaker 4] (2:04:20 - 2:04:20)
And

[Speaker 5] (2:04:20 - 2:04:20)
I have

[Speaker 4] (2:04:20 - 2:04:21)
if we're

[Speaker 5] (2:04:21 - 2:04:21)
a lot of that information.

[Speaker 5] (2:04:21 - 2:04:22)
that information.

[Speaker 4] (2:04:22 - 2:04:30)
Yeah, so I think a lot of the lifting has been done. I think my recommendation is we do put together a small committee to do the charter review and then come back. I don't

[Speaker 7] (2:04:30 - 2:04:30)
I

[Speaker 4] (2:04:30 - 2:04:30)
think there'll

[Speaker 7] (2:04:30 - 2:04:31)
think it be might

[Speaker 4] (2:04:31 - 2:04:31)
a lot

[Speaker 7] (2:04:31 - 2:04:31)
be

[Speaker 4] (2:04:31 - 2:04:31)
more

[Speaker 7] (2:04:31 - 2:04:31)
in

[Speaker 4] (2:04:31 - 2:04:31)
lifting.

[Speaker 7] (2:04:31 - 2:04:35)
the charter what the review committee is. I think it might say in the charter.

[Speaker 8] (2:04:35 - 2:04:36)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (2:04:36 - 2:04:37)
How about a B_

[Speaker 4] (2:04:37 - 2:04:37)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (2:04:37 - 2:04:38)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (2:04:39 - 2:04:43)
Um, so I really think regionalization is a B and not a C.

[Speaker 7] (2:04:44 - 2:04:49)
Um, I know Mary Ellen sort of had a couple other like staff backup plans consolidate and add roles,

[Speaker 7] (2:04:50 - 2:04:56)
but I had regionalization opportunities and I, under my name, and I would like to say that that's a B.

[Speaker 5] (2:04:59 - 2:05:03)
So then I have B B A B C A A B A.

[Speaker 7] (2:05:05 - 2:05:06)
What? Say it again?

[Speaker 4] (2:05:06 - 2:05:07)
It's BBA.

[Speaker 7] (2:05:07 - 2:05:08)
Trash? You're

[Speaker 5] (2:05:08 - 2:05:08)
B

[Speaker 7] (2:05:08 - 2:05:08)
sharing with trash.

[Speaker 5] (2:05:08 - 2:05:08)
is

[Speaker 7] (2:05:08 - 2:05:09)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (2:05:09 - 2:05:11)
it BBA BCA

[Speaker 7] (2:05:11 - 2:05:11)
Yep.

[Speaker 5] (2:05:11 - 2:05:12)
ABA

[Speaker 7] (2:05:12 - 2:05:13)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (2:05:14 - 2:05:15)
Yep. Got

[Speaker 4] (2:05:15 - 2:05:15)
Yep.

[Speaker 7] (2:05:15 - 2:05:15)
it. That's

[Speaker 8] (2:05:15 - 2:05:15)
Yeah,

[Speaker 7] (2:05:15 - 2:05:16)
correct.

[Speaker 8] (2:05:16 - 2:05:16)
you got it.

[Speaker 7] (2:05:17 - 2:05:20)
Alright, moving on to David's. Do you wanna categorize it first and then we'll

[Speaker 9] (2:05:20 - 2:05:21)
Uh yeah,

[Speaker 7] (2:05:21 - 2:05:21)
judge you?

[Speaker 9] (2:05:21 - 2:05:24)
sure. Yeah, I mean, I mean look the economic development um

[Speaker 9] (2:05:25 - 2:05:28)
Some of these, I mean some of these are longer term

[Speaker 7] (2:05:28 - 2:05:28)
Right.

[Speaker 9] (2:05:28 - 2:05:47)
goals and objectives that we're going to be working on consistently. So the fact that we're, you know, we're not going to accomplish the, you know, economic development in the next six months, but completing the hotel, the Hawthorne and the downtown parking and infrastructure improvements is going to be something that we're, that is going to be, you know, we're going to be working on today,

[Speaker 9] (2:05:47 - 2:05:52)
we're going to be working on probably five years from now. So it's important,

[Speaker 9] (2:05:52 - 2:05:54)
but it's not something that.

[Speaker 9] (2:05:55 - 2:05:58)
Nick is Nick and the board are going to be able to accomplish and

[Speaker 7] (2:05:58 - 2:05:59)
Of course.

[Speaker 9] (2:05:59 - 2:06:05)
by so I look at that as a as a long-term goal got

[Speaker 7] (2:06:05 - 2:06:11)
But it's, I guess then said differently, David, where you have these more philosophical ideas rather than practical ideas,

[Speaker 7] (2:06:11 - 2:06:17)
maybe it's like you want this in the forefront of the person's mind who's making decisions rather than in the back of their mind.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:17 - 2:06:17)
Do you know what I mean?

[Speaker 7] (2:06:17 - 2:06:21)
Like, so I would say like complete the Hawthorne Humphrey Street.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:22 - 2:06:24)
renaissance would be élan et I mean we're

[Speaker 1] (2:06:24 - 2:06:24)
Yeah.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:24 - 2:06:28)
driving that and we don't want to take our foot off the pedal doing that.

[Speaker 9] (2:06:28 - 2:06:29)
Correct.

[Speaker 9] (2:06:29 - 2:06:32)
I I'm just looking at this as what's feasible and

[Speaker 7] (2:06:32 - 2:06:33)
Yeah, which

[Speaker 9] (2:06:33 - 2:06:36)
should be it can be it can be addressed in in a short period of time so

[Speaker 7] (2:06:36 - 2:06:36)
yeah

[Speaker 9] (2:06:36 - 2:06:38)
my definition may just be different than than

[Speaker 5] (2:06:38 - 2:06:38)
Yeah,

[Speaker 9] (2:06:38 - 2:06:39)
yours but

[Speaker 5] (2:06:39 - 2:06:42)
because I don't think it should be something that can be finished in

[Speaker 7] (2:06:42 - 2:06:42)
no.

[Speaker 5] (2:06:42 - 2:06:42)
this year.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:42 - 2:06:43)
But But

[Speaker 9] (2:06:43 - 2:06:43)
should be

[Speaker 7] (2:06:43 - 2:06:43)
one

[Speaker 9] (2:06:43 - 2:06:43)
focused,

[Speaker 7] (2:06:43 - 2:06:43)
to be worked

[Speaker 9] (2:06:43 - 2:06:44)
it should

[Speaker 7] (2:06:44 - 2:06:44)
on

[Speaker 9] (2:06:44 - 2:06:44)
be focused

[Speaker 7] (2:06:44 - 2:06:44)
in those

[Speaker 9] (2:06:44 - 2:06:44)
on.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:44 - 2:06:45)
six

[Speaker 9] (2:06:45 - 2:06:45)
Yes.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:45 - 2:06:45)
months So to

[Speaker 9] (2:06:45 - 2:06:45)
that's yeah,

[Speaker 7] (2:06:45 - 2:06:46)
this feeling yep.

[Speaker 9] (2:06:46 - 2:06:47)
that's that's an A.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:47 - 2:06:47)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (2:06:48 - 2:06:50)
So then we'll call both those top two

[Speaker 9] (2:06:50 - 2:06:50)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (2:06:50 - 2:06:50)
A's? Yep.

[Speaker 9] (2:06:50 - 2:06:50)
yeah,

[Speaker 7] (2:06:50 - 2:06:51)
Uh top top three.

[Speaker 9] (2:06:51 - 2:06:58)
yeah, top three A's, and then, you know, I don't balance revenue was part of um was part of the economic um development efforts.

[Speaker 9] (2:06:59 - 2:06:59)
So

[Speaker 7] (2:06:59 - 2:06:59)
So we

[Speaker 9] (2:06:59 - 2:07:00)
we'll skip that and

[Speaker 7] (2:07:00 - 2:07:00)
take that

[Speaker 9] (2:07:00 - 2:07:00)
then

[Speaker 7] (2:07:00 - 2:07:00)
off.

[Speaker 9] (2:07:00 - 2:07:06)
yeah and then collaboration with the housing authority for a for an affordable housing feasibility study.

[Speaker 4] (2:07:06 - 2:07:07)
Oh, that's all one.

[Speaker 5] (2:07:07 - 2:07:08)
Logos together?

[Speaker 4] (2:07:08 - 2:07:08)
Okay.

[Speaker 9] (2:07:08 - 2:07:09)
Yeah, that all yeah, that's

[Speaker 7] (2:07:09 - 2:07:09)
Okay.

[Speaker 9] (2:07:09 - 2:07:11)
all that's all one piece.

[Speaker 7] (2:07:11 - 2:07:11)
That's all one.

[Speaker 9] (2:07:11 - 2:07:13)
That was that was the third uh piece.

[Speaker 9] (2:07:13 - 2:07:14)
We're in a housing crisis.

[Speaker 9] (2:07:15 - 2:07:35)
Um you know previously we had allocated some ARPA funds um which in my opinion could have been multiplicative uh feasibility study could have resulted in tens of millions of dollars being allocated to create new public housing for the first time in 50 years you know that's a that that's certainly something that is going to take some time I would look at that as a as a B.

[Speaker 7] (2:07:37 - 2:07:42)
Yeah, I mean just to stay at we allocated ARPA funds, but then we couldn't get a contract signed in,

[Speaker 8] (2:07:42 - 2:07:42)
No, no,

[Speaker 7] (2:07:42 - 2:07:42)
in

[Speaker 8] (2:07:42 - 2:07:43)
no, I...

[Speaker 7] (2:07:43 - 2:07:43)
so like

[Speaker 4] (2:07:43 - 2:07:46)
Well, the housing authority couldn't get,

[Speaker 4] (2:07:46 - 2:07:46)
I mean like,

[Speaker 4] (2:07:46 - 2:07:47)
yeah,

[Speaker 7] (2:07:47 - 2:07:47)
Right. Well,

[Speaker 7] (2:07:47 - 2:07:50)
I was saying we to be generous.

[Speaker 4] (2:07:50 - 2:07:50)
I don't

[Speaker 7] (2:07:50 - 2:07:51)
So we

[Speaker 4] (2:07:51 - 2:07:51)
want to

[Speaker 7] (2:07:51 - 2:07:54)
as a town couldn't get things lifted up there.

[Speaker 7] (2:07:54 - 2:08:03)
So hopefully in hearing that this is a B priority for us, the housing authority should feel more confident moving forward and coming forward with some of these ideas.

[Speaker 7] (2:08:03 - 2:08:07)
Although now we have probably less funds or maybe there's grant opportunities.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:08 - 2:08:09)
Well, there,

[Speaker 9] (2:08:09 - 2:08:09)
yeah,

[Speaker 9] (2:08:09 - 2:08:13)
well, there certainly are grant opportunities and now we have the CPA in

[Speaker 7] (2:08:13 - 2:08:13)
Yep.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:13 - 2:08:20)
effect and, you know, potentially some of those funds along with affordable housing trust funds along with.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:21 - 2:08:28)
some potential grants from the state could could get this to you know to to come to be all I was saying was

[Speaker 4] (2:08:28 - 2:08:29)
Get it on our radar?

[Speaker 9] (2:08:29 - 2:08:29)
yeah we

[Speaker 7] (2:08:29 - 2:08:29)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:29 - 2:08:30)
just we need

[Speaker 4] (2:08:30 - 2:08:30)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:30 - 2:08:31)
to we need to be able to start that we

[Speaker 7] (2:08:31 - 2:08:32)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (2:08:32 - 2:08:32)
Yep.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:32 - 2:08:45)
did have round tables with the town administrator with the director of the housing authority and with the lead you know the select board as well as members of the of the housing authority those meetings probably happened for about a year

[Speaker 9] (2:08:47 - 2:08:57)
And they probably should restart in earnest. There's a different board there. There's certainly a board that's focused on redevelopment. They've set up their 501c3.

[Speaker 9] (2:08:58 - 2:08:59)
So I do think that they're ready.

[Speaker 2] (2:09:07 - 2:09:07)
Great.

[Speaker 1] (2:09:09 - 2:09:14)
And then, you know, prioritisation of re-staffing a town hall, but that's that's in that's in others um

[Speaker 1] (2:09:16 - 2:09:16)
as well.

[Speaker 2] (2:09:17 - 2:09:17)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:09:17 - 2:09:20)
No, it should probably be on listed then on yours, too I guess.

[Speaker 4] (2:09:21 - 2:09:28)
For staffing what specific if because I guess staffing is listed a couple of different ways here so which one does it most

[Speaker 1] (2:09:28 - 2:09:35)
I was looking so just in my notes it was specifically finance director and a full-time assessor

[Speaker 4] (2:09:35 - 2:09:46)
Okay yeah because that's not listed out here full-time assessor and finance director and I assume you want to call that a day

[Speaker 1] (2:09:48 - 2:09:48)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (2:09:49 - 2:09:51)
Okay, so we have then for David,

[Speaker 4] (2:09:51 - 2:09:51)
A,

[Speaker 4] (2:09:51 - 2:09:53)
A, A, B,

[Speaker 4] (2:09:53 - 2:09:55)
and then his new entry is an A.

[Speaker 4] (2:09:56 - 2:09:58)
All right, Danielle.

[Speaker 5] (2:09:59 - 2:10:04)
Okay, so kudos to me for my short manageable list of goals here, should I say.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:06 - 2:10:10)
The Hawthorne is a big huge A++ for me.

[Speaker 4] (2:10:10 - 2:10:11)
Yep.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:11 - 2:10:11)
We

[Speaker 3] (2:10:11 - 2:10:12)
And number one.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:12 - 2:10:12)
It

[Speaker 4] (2:10:12 - 2:10:12)
She

[Speaker 5] (2:10:12 - 2:10:13)
is. Look at

[Speaker 4] (2:10:13 - 2:10:13)
said

[Speaker 5] (2:10:13 - 2:10:13)
that.

[Speaker 4] (2:10:13 - 2:10:13)
so.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:13 - 2:10:14)
Move on.

[Speaker 4] (2:10:14 - 2:10:14)
Consistent.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:14 - 2:10:16)
I didn't say it right that, but it's there. Great.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:17 - 2:10:20)
We need to figure it out. We need to figure it out quickly.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:20 - 2:10:21)
Right?

[Speaker 5] (2:10:21 - 2:10:22)
That's just how I feel.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:23 - 2:10:26)
Financial priorities with finance, schools, and select board.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:26 - 2:10:27)
Also an A.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:28 - 2:10:29)
Key critical piece, right?

[Speaker 5] (2:10:29 - 2:10:31)
Financial summit. We've talked about it.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:31 - 2:10:36)
We now have to actually implement it and do it and start that conversation.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:37 - 2:10:51)
I hate to say it but prioritizing staffing and FTE is a town hall also in A_ to me we are at a critical point we have a number of open positions, um finance director, assessor, there are a couple of others that have recently come up.

[Speaker 5] (2:10:52 - 2:10:54)
We need to get an understanding of

[Speaker 5] (2:10:55 - 2:11:04)
the best utilization, the best structure, and we need to implement it, right, that's critical. Um complete hotel, um

[Speaker 5] (2:11:05 - 2:11:09)
I'd like to think that's on its way. I could safely say that's a B.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:09 - 2:11:14)
I don't think that, you know, it's a priority to get it done, but I feel like we're progressing towards that.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:14 - 2:11:14)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (2:11:14 - 2:11:19)
So I don't need I don't think we need to allocate critical resources to it at this point.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:19 - 2:11:19)
right.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:19 - 2:11:22)
You're calling it a B_ because we've done the leg work,

[Speaker 5] (2:11:22 - 2:11:22)
Correct.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:22 - 2:11:23)
and it's sort of like

[Speaker 5] (2:11:23 - 2:11:23)
It's

[Speaker 4] (2:11:23 - 2:11:23)
in playing

[Speaker 5] (2:11:23 - 2:11:23)
motion.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:23 - 2:11:25)
out, it's in motion, right. It's It's not because

[Speaker 6] (2:11:25 - 2:11:25)
also executed

[Speaker 5] (2:11:25 - 2:11:26)
Hawthorn

[Speaker 4] (2:11:26 - 2:11:26)
it's not

[Speaker 6] (2:11:26 - 2:11:27)
as opposed to

[Speaker 4] (2:11:27 - 2:11:27)
yes,

[Speaker 6] (2:11:27 - 2:11:27)
something making

[Speaker 4] (2:11:27 - 2:11:28)
exactly.

[Speaker 6] (2:11:28 - 2:11:28)
important.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:29 - 2:11:29)
Correct.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:30 - 2:11:30)
Yep.

[Speaker 6] (2:11:30 - 2:11:31)
Value judgments in the beginning.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:31 - 2:11:31)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:31 - 2:11:31)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:32 - 2:11:32)
Hopefully

[Speaker 5] (2:11:32 - 2:11:33)
All right.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:33 - 2:11:34)
we are done with all that work.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:34 - 2:11:34)
Right.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:35 - 2:11:37)
Unused properties review and a master plan for usage.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:38 - 2:11:40)
Critical. A. I'm sorry, I think it is an A.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:40 - 2:11:43)
We just had this discussion about Clark.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:43 - 2:11:45)
One affects the other. It's like a domino effect here.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:45 - 2:11:49)
So the properties directly correlate to the financial summit,

[Speaker 5] (2:11:49 - 2:11:51)
to, you know, the priorities for budgeting.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:52 - 2:11:54)
I hate to say it, but I think that's an A also.

[Speaker 5] (2:11:56 - 2:11:57)
That is the end of my short list.

[Speaker 4] (2:11:57 - 2:12:02)
Great, so we have everything in A under Danielle's except for hotel which is B because it's in sort of moving

[Speaker 5] (2:12:02 - 2:12:03)
Sorry.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:03 - 2:12:04)
along mode.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:06 - 2:12:09)
From the list under feeling,

[Speaker 4] (2:12:09 - 2:12:09)
but...

[Speaker 4] (2:12:10 - 2:12:13)
I take no ownership for this because these were all ideas that have come

[Speaker 5] (2:12:13 - 2:12:13)
Mom

[Speaker 4] (2:12:13 - 2:12:14)
up multiple times.

[Speaker 5] (2:12:14 - 2:12:14)
wants understanding

[Speaker 4] (2:12:14 - 2:12:15)
Okay.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:15 - 2:12:15)
Well,

[Speaker 4] (2:12:15 - 2:12:16)
I have lofty goals.

[Speaker 5] (2:12:17 - 2:12:18)
What are you most understanding?

[Speaker 4] (2:12:19 - 2:12:20)
Employee relations and morale.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:20 - 2:12:21)
Again,

[Speaker 4] (2:12:21 - 2:12:27)
I think this is an A because as Danielle just said, we're ripe for it right now because we have so much turnover that we can turn the tide.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:27 - 2:12:30)
There's some trust that we need to earn back from current employees.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:30 - 2:12:36)
There's some, you know, great relationships that we can build with future and onboarding employees.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:36 - 2:12:37)
Like

[Speaker 4] (2:12:37 - 2:12:39)
This should always be an A.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:40 - 2:12:44)
The Financial Re-Evaluation Summit slash Policy Review.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:45 - 2:12:46)
This...

[Speaker 4] (2:12:46 - 2:12:49)
Tri-chair is working on this right now.

[Speaker 4] (2:12:49 - 2:12:51)
I think there was a,

[Speaker 4] (2:12:51 - 2:12:52)
just to give a quick little update,

[Speaker 4] (2:12:52 - 2:13:01)
there is a bit of pressure because we've talked about this financial summit for so long, like what is the financial summit and it looks in different forms for different people.

[Speaker 4] (2:13:01 - 2:13:08)
So I think I mentioned last time the position that tri-chair is taking is that we will do these mini little breakouts.

[Speaker 4] (2:13:09 - 2:13:33)
like we would talk about one well one idea was we were going to talk about Clark and what should happen with Clark in a breakout one idea was like okay let's talk about what the financial budget guidelines are and whether or not they're effective one was like let's talk about capital plan how long does it go out for five years ten years projection so I think we've sort of figured out like a series of little mini events and like

[Speaker 4] (2:13:34 - 2:13:43)
Kat, we've suggested that a conversation around capital improvements goes first because it really begets so much other conversation.

[Speaker 4] (2:13:43 - 2:13:53)
And so we are going to be scheduling that and it'll be us and Fincom and school and the other stakeholders where, you know, obviously that one will include capital improvements.

[Speaker 4] (2:13:53 - 2:13:54)
And so.

[Speaker 4] (2:13:55 - 2:14:08)
We'll sort of do these vignettes rather than a full summit would and of an all day pressures on think of everything we were supposed to think about and talk about and put it in one day um rather this sort of little build up so

[Speaker 5] (2:14:08 - 2:14:16)
I just want to I just want to just say just a word of not a word of caution necessarily but I would like to be

[Speaker 5] (2:14:17 - 2:14:25)
I hope that we're all informed of what's happening in these little snippets so that we, you know, not to take away from the transparency of the process of the financial summit,

[Speaker 4] (2:14:25 - 2:14:25)
Yep.

[Speaker 5] (2:14:25 - 2:14:32)
right, because I think part of that goal was to have community involvement and to be public about what what we're all discussing,

[Speaker 5] (2:14:33 - 2:14:37)
right. So I don't wanna get away from that w in the tri-chair model, right, if that

[Speaker 4] (2:14:37 - 2:14:37)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (2:14:37 - 2:14:37)
makes

[Speaker 4] (2:14:37 - 2:14:42)
I think we what I hope to happen is that once we come up with a topic and a date

[Speaker 4] (2:14:42 - 2:14:51)
we will bring it each tri-chair member me myself Eric and Amy will bring it to their meetings publicly and

[Speaker 5] (2:14:51 - 2:14:52)
Great.

[Speaker 4] (2:14:52 - 2:15:08)
then we will have a public conversation individually and then we will bring it forward and then that will help create the agenda and then the meeting itself will be public so that is how I sort of thought about it and we are

[Speaker 4] (2:15:08 - 2:15:12)
You know the the idea of tri-chair is not meant to be secretive in any way.

[Speaker 4] (2:15:12 - 2:15:14)
It's more like how do we structure this

[Speaker 4] (2:15:15 - 2:15:15)
sort of

[Speaker 4] (2:15:16 - 2:15:28)
Mammoth thing that we were all talking about and really make it work for everybody's definition Which was different and it was like well Maybe we just take the pressure off a little bit and start in some smaller steps so that we can all feel comfortable. We're moving in the right direction

[Speaker 5] (2:15:28 - 2:15:29)
Great.

[Speaker 3] (2:15:30 - 2:15:34)
The only thing I would ask, clearly this isn't this isn't easy because it's

[Speaker 3] (2:15:35 - 2:15:36)
been difficult to pull together.

[Speaker 4] (2:15:36 - 2:15:38)
Yeah, we

[Speaker 3] (2:15:38 - 2:15:41)
Can we get a calendar of what

[Speaker 4] (2:15:41 - 2:15:41)
can.

[Speaker 3] (2:15:41 - 2:15:46)
those are so that I'm just worried about the clock is we're starting to move through the year already right

[Speaker 4] (2:15:46 - 2:15:46)
Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (2:15:46 - 2:15:47)
and so

[Speaker 4] (2:15:47 - 2:15:47)
we can.

[Speaker 4] (2:15:47 - 2:15:51)
But I guess part of the conversation will also be like.

[Speaker 4] (2:15:52 - 2:15:57)
Yes, we can signify some dates for which we hope to have these conversations,

[Speaker 4] (2:15:57 - 2:16:02)
but the topic, while we have maybe like three topics right now that we're thinking about,

[Speaker 4] (2:16:02 - 2:16:08)
we also want to let like the first meeting exist and then, okay, while we had these two ideas,

[Speaker 4] (2:16:08 - 2:16:13)
maybe that's not the direction that we should be going in or maybe after we have a conversation about the one idea,

[Speaker 4] (2:16:13 - 2:16:15)
other boards spring forward,

[Speaker 4] (2:16:15 - 2:16:17)
well, we really want to talk about X,

[Speaker 4] (2:16:17 - 2:16:20)
Y, or Z. Like we would have thought Clark would have been first, but then we had.

[Speaker 4] (2:16:20 - 2:16:29)
then we had this MOU come up and so it was like okay well long-term Clark needs to happen but now it doesn't have to happen so quickly because there's an M there's potential a potential MOU.

[Speaker 1] (2:16:30 - 2:16:31)
I guess, I guess.

[Speaker 3] (2:16:32 - 2:16:33)
That all sounds great,

[Speaker 3] (2:16:33 - 2:16:40)
but it feels like we're going to be in the middle of the budgeting process before we get to our second meeting with that type of process.

[Speaker 3] (2:16:41 - 2:16:41)
So I'm just I'm

[Speaker 4] (2:16:41 - 2:16:42)
Well,

[Speaker 3] (2:16:42 - 2:16:42)
just encouraging.

[Speaker 4] (2:16:42 - 2:16:42)
we are.

[Speaker 4] (2:16:42 - 2:16:53)
I mean, to be frank, we are like we are hoping to meet in November and then maybe again in December or January and then maybe again in because this is on top of all the other meetings we're having.

[Speaker 4] (2:16:53 - 2:16:55)
So like then again in like.

[Speaker 4] (2:16:56 - 2:17:01)
either February or March like I don't think we're saying like every single month we're going to have one of these breakout meetings

[Speaker 3] (2:17:05 - 2:17:05)
Okay.

[Speaker 4] (2:17:06 - 2:17:08)
Is that what you'd rather do every single month?

[Speaker 3] (2:17:08 - 2:17:34)
Well I guess I would just don't let perfect be the enemy of the good don't try to boil the ocean like let's try to find the two or three things that are really really important like is there one capital improvement meeting is you know whatever like let's get the big things that like have some discussion and then maybe bring it to that you know true kind of summit version sooner rather than later so that we don't end up

[Speaker 3] (2:17:34 - 2:17:44)
you know basically you know he's gotta have the budget done by March 1st right, you know it's already we're middle of October you know it's the clock's gonna start ticking and I just don't wanna be

[Speaker 4] (2:17:44 - 2:17:44)
Right,

[Speaker 3] (2:17:44 - 2:17:44)
in the position

[Speaker 4] (2:17:44 - 2:17:45)
I just,

[Speaker 3] (2:17:45 - 2:17:50)
where we haven't had this conversation again because we were trying to have all these different meetings and then we ran out of time.

[Speaker 4] (2:17:50 - 2:18:02)
we're not trying to have all these different meetings, we're trying to not let, as you said, not let perfection be the enemy of progress, and we are trying to just progress on some topics that we have a good understanding about everybody is on the same page. Like

[Speaker 4] (2:18:02 - 2:18:21)
Like we need to talk about projected capital improvements and then we need to talk about like okay are the financial guardrails we have in place realistic going forward and then I think there was one other topic I don't have my notes in front of me so those are the top three that we sort of all came to a discussion on and so like then I assume as we have those discussions they'll get more.

[Speaker 4] (2:18:22 - 2:18:39)
conversation but to your point I'm open to the idea that that just begets a summit now that we're all comfortable and everybody's earned some trust back and we all have definitions that we're comfortable with maybe that just does facilitate one particular meeting but I think we won't know until we start

[Speaker 3] (2:18:41 - 2:18:41)
Okay.

[Speaker 4] (2:18:42 - 2:18:42)
okay

[Speaker 4] (2:18:44 - 2:18:49)
Beaches and pipes. I don't think I called it exactly that. It sounds like that's like a band or something, but

[Speaker 5] (2:18:49 - 2:18:49)
Oh.

[Speaker 4] (2:18:49 - 2:18:49)
right?

[Speaker 3] (2:18:49 - 2:18:51)
You're all the way down there? What

[Speaker 5] (2:18:51 - 2:18:51)
Yep,

[Speaker 3] (2:18:51 - 2:18:51)
did I skip?

[Speaker 5] (2:18:51 - 2:18:51)
you skipped

[Speaker 4] (2:18:51 - 2:18:51)
Oh,

[Speaker 5] (2:18:51 - 2:18:52)
it.

[Speaker 4] (2:18:52 - 2:18:52)
I skipped.

[Speaker 3] (2:18:52 - 2:18:53)
So financial

[Speaker 5] (2:18:53 - 2:18:53)
You skipped

[Speaker 3] (2:18:53 - 2:18:53)
reevaluation

[Speaker 5] (2:18:53 - 2:18:54)
it. You didn't need to go to that.

[Speaker 3] (2:18:54 - 2:18:54)
was an A.

[Speaker 1] (2:18:54 - 2:18:54)
was an A.

[Speaker 3] (2:18:54 - 2:18:55)
an A. Sorry,

[Speaker 3] (2:18:55 - 2:18:57)
I wrote communication improvements.

[Speaker 3] (2:18:57 - 2:19:04)
I put A just because I also put it like the townwide calendar is part of that. So I just mimic the A from there.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:04 - 2:19:05)
It's really similar.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:05 - 2:19:06)
Um,

[Speaker 3] (2:19:06 - 2:19:07)
select board unity and respect.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:07 - 2:19:09)
I mean, that's an A plus for me, but.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:10 - 2:19:18)
I really think, you know, we now passed a handbook. We have, we're looking towards a social media policy.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:18 - 2:19:24)
We've, Marianne got back with some comments from peers about what their social media policy looks like.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:24 - 2:19:26)
So in the upcoming meetings,

[Speaker 3] (2:19:26 - 2:19:29)
we'll put that back on to have a conversation about it.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:30 - 2:19:30)
And.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:32 - 2:19:35)
So we have that going on in that regard.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:36 - 2:19:37)
Regionalization opportunities,

[Speaker 3] (2:19:37 - 2:19:39)
I would call that a B.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:39 - 2:19:45)
It's something that like should always be in the back of our mind thinking for everything that comes to the table like okay is an option here regionalization,

[Speaker 3] (2:19:45 - 2:19:49)
what are the relationships, how can we facilitate that,

[Speaker 3] (2:19:49 - 2:19:58)
can we not for specific reasons like we had talked about a health and safety chief and sort of being a regional thing at one point in time maybe like 18 months ago.

[Speaker 3] (2:19:58 - 2:20:03)
And part of like the snafu is, you know, we're at a civil service and not all our neighbors are.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:03 - 2:20:06)
So is that something that could still be facilitated?

[Speaker 3] (2:20:08 - 2:20:11)
So, you know, some topics like that.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:12 - 2:20:13)
Beaches and pipes,

[Speaker 3] (2:20:14 - 2:20:18)
obviously it's closest to source elimination on Mary Ellen's list,

[Speaker 3] (2:20:18 - 2:20:19)
so we'll call it an A. Economic development,

[Speaker 3] (2:20:20 - 2:20:20)
it's on David's list,

[Speaker 3] (2:20:21 - 2:20:21)
it's an A.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:21 - 2:20:26)
Hadley Glover, Hawthorne Bacon Properties, it's on Danielle's list, that's an A.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:26 - 2:20:29)
Succession plan for buildings out of use.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:30 - 2:20:32)
That's a little bit similar.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:32 - 2:20:34)
I think both of these are probably...

[Speaker 3] (2:20:34 - 2:20:35)
uh

[Speaker 4] (2:20:35 - 2:20:36)
Unused properties.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:36 - 2:20:55)
unused properties so that's also already on a list so that's an A so um Diane we can go through and like where there's duplication after this we can meld it down to one list and take the names across the top off so that the ownership is the whole board and not us individually um so

[Speaker 4] (2:20:55 - 2:20:56)
Okay, Doug's trying.

[Speaker 3] (2:20:56 - 2:20:58)
Doug you're next

[Speaker 5] (2:21:00 - 2:21:00)
Uh

[Speaker 3] (2:21:00 - 2:21:04)
Oh, unless sorry, unless anybody disagrees with any of those prioritizations.

[Speaker 6] (2:21:04 - 2:21:14)
I would just say beaches and pipes are in progress. I feel like that's a B. Personally I don't feel like there's much more that we need or can do to advance that any further than we already have.

[Speaker 7] (2:21:15 - 2:21:22)
Actually I think that that I think it should be an A because now that um Nick is here I think and also

[Speaker 7] (2:21:22 - 2:21:44)
With the information that we had from Kleinfeldler in the spring time Kleinfeldler identified that we were making big uh big strides in as far as source elimination and they felt that keeping up how we were doing it we were going to be able to have everything sealed up and have some good test results. So I I do think that we should really keep the pedal to the metal on that one.

[Speaker 6] (2:21:44 - 2:21:44)
But

[Speaker 8] (2:21:44 - 2:21:45)
Uh what and

[Speaker 6] (2:21:45 - 2:21:45)
else can

[Speaker 8] (2:21:45 - 2:21:45)
the U_V_

[Speaker 6] (2:21:45 - 2:21:46)
we do to do that?

[Speaker 8] (2:21:46 - 2:21:46)
Well, the we U_V_

[Speaker 7] (2:21:46 - 2:21:46)
can

[Speaker 8] (2:21:46 - 2:21:48)
pilot results and like what's the next step?

[Speaker 6] (2:21:49 - 2:21:49)
Right. Right.

[Speaker 7] (2:21:50 - 2:21:51)
we can also identify

[Speaker 8] (2:21:51 - 2:21:51)
We can make a decision.

[Speaker 7] (2:21:51 - 2:21:56)
identify the speed and the need of w what's happening. Like we went

[Speaker 6] (2:21:56 - 2:21:58)
That the stuff that we can drive, right?

[Speaker 6] (2:21:58 - 2:22:00)
We can drive the I mean uh are we waiting to get

[Speaker 8] (2:22:00 - 2:22:01)
Well, we we

[Speaker 6] (2:22:01 - 2:22:01)
before

[Speaker 8] (2:22:01 - 2:22:01)
make

[Speaker 9] (2:22:01 - 2:22:01)
Or

[Speaker 6] (2:22:01 - 2:22:01)
we

[Speaker 8] (2:22:01 - 2:22:01)
a decision

[Speaker 9] (2:22:01 - 2:22:01)
the

[Speaker 6] (2:22:01 - 2:22:02)
drive the in beach?

[Speaker 8] (2:22:02 - 2:22:08)
in front of us within this calendar year to potentially locate and go after grants for

[Speaker 6] (2:22:08 - 2:22:08)
Oh,

[Speaker 8] (2:22:08 - 2:22:08)
a

[Speaker 6] (2:22:08 - 2:22:08)
okay.

[Speaker 8] (2:22:08 - 2:22:12)
twenty million dollar facility. I mean, theoretically that's I mean

[Speaker 7] (2:22:12 - 2:22:12)
Twenty

[Speaker 6] (2:22:12 - 2:22:12)
I

[Speaker 7] (2:22:12 - 2:22:12)
thousand

[Speaker 6] (2:22:12 - 2:22:13)
don't think I saw it even happen.

[Speaker 8] (2:22:13 - 2:22:15)
whatever whatever it is, you know something

[Speaker 6] (2:22:15 - 2:22:15)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (2:22:15 - 2:22:15)
You

[Speaker 3] (2:22:15 - 2:22:16)
It does.

[Speaker 8] (2:22:16 - 2:22:37)
know, but there's also there's also a regionalisation component which is which is more intermediate to long term so yes while we're while we're making our decisions in the in the short term there's also the you know the the need to remain in close contact with our with our state and federal partners as well as the city of Lynn to see what to see what they're doing I mean that's

[Speaker 8] (2:22:38 - 2:22:50)
visualization uh to some to some extent, but uh you know but it's also um it's also cleaning up our beaches and pipes. So I mean it's it's it's been a priority for the last several years. I think it's a I think it should remain a top

[Speaker 7] (2:22:50 - 2:22:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (2:22:51 - 2:22:51)
priority.

[Speaker 3] (2:22:51 - 2:22:52)
Yeah, I think

[Speaker 3] (2:22:53 - 2:22:56)
I almost, I agreed with you at first thinking like, oh, this is like Hadley,

[Speaker 3] (2:22:57 - 2:22:57)
right?

[Speaker 3] (2:22:57 - 2:22:59)
Like it's going, so we don't change speed,

[Speaker 3] (2:22:59 - 2:23:01)
we're just going to keep going.

[Speaker 3] (2:23:01 - 2:23:06)
But I think there maybe are a couple more things that decisions probably have to be made from before we can get to that point.

[Speaker 3] (2:23:06 - 2:23:06)
So we're almost

[Speaker 6] (2:23:06 - 2:23:06)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:23:06 - 2:23:09)
to a B situation, but yeah.

[Speaker 8] (2:23:11 - 2:23:12)
Can I, uh...

[Speaker 8] (2:23:14 - 2:23:17)
challenge a little bit on the staffing, now that I'm thinking about it

[Speaker 6] (2:23:17 - 2:23:17)
Ooh.

[Speaker 8] (2:23:17 - 2:23:35)
across here. And and not truly about whether or not it's an A priority, but how much of that is a select board-controlled, manage decision versus uh the town administrator effectuate it.

[Speaker 3] (2:23:36 - 2:23:44)
I think, unfortunately, more than you think, because our interplay with Sacramento Town Hall greatly affects morale at Town Hall.

[Speaker 8] (2:23:44 - 2:23:54)
Okay, so we've got a, we've got an employee handbook, we've all signed off on it, you know, there's not going to be, you know, select board members going directly to town hall staff,

[Speaker 8] (2:23:54 - 2:23:55)
right,

[Speaker 8] (2:23:55 - 2:23:56)
without going through the town administrator.

[Speaker 8] (2:23:57 - 2:24:00)
So with that assumption,

[Speaker 8] (2:24:00 - 2:24:03)
and you know, we've talked about there's so many open positions.

[Speaker 8] (2:24:03 - 2:24:05)
I mean, I know there's

[Speaker 8] (2:24:05 - 2:24:07)
two key ones in finance.

[Speaker 6] (2:24:07 - 2:24:07)
Right.

[Speaker 8] (2:24:07 - 2:24:12)
Um you know we've now hired some people in terms of planning and land use and,

[Speaker 6] (2:24:12 - 2:24:12)
Yep.

[Speaker 8] (2:24:12 - 2:24:29)
you know, so you know rec rec director uh you know I'm not sure where all these positions are and you know we've had a little list here um and just making checking us about yeah we maybe there's a decision if we wanna tweak the structure and finance.

[Speaker 8] (2:24:30 - 2:24:39)
But where is all the time and energy really from the select board gonna be going in terms of this staff morale?

[Speaker 7] (2:24:39 - 2:24:57)
I think that I think that the structure of of how town hall exists is not going to be something we can expect you know Nick to come in and just know automatically or feel or know the past history of each position I think that we're gonna have to do some work with the out

[Speaker 7] (2:24:57 - 2:25:26)
the outline almost of the structure and how things work and how they play into one another from a budget perspective and I think that's yes, certainly the hiring and and placing positions is is more under the T_A_ but I think we have to take a hard look at how it all exists in what in what the the staffing, the procedures, the hiring process, all of it for police, fire, town hall, how it all kind of goes together, I think that structure is is where we would come in.

[Speaker 7] (2:25:27 - 2:25:27)
without

[Speaker 3] (2:25:27 - 2:25:27)
So I

[Speaker 7] (2:25:27 - 2:25:27)
the actual

[Speaker 3] (2:25:27 - 2:25:51)
think this is my comment to this putting it on this list is in direct relation to how the budget process went this year and how we sat here and took a thousand dollars out of employee growth line items and that affected town hall staff in a serious way and so if we are saying like to Nick that the select board supports

[Speaker 3] (2:25:52 - 2:26:18)
growth at town hall the select board supports a change in morale at town hall then that means when the budget comes to us nick's going to say this directly aligns with a select board request which is that we prioritize growth in certain departments where we could or we prioritize you know certain educational items or certain certifications for employees or

[Speaker 3] (2:26:20 - 2:26:28)
And maybe we can't afford to do all that, but at least when Nick presents it to us, he can feel like he has the support of the select board saying,

[Speaker 3] (2:26:28 - 2:26:48)
like, I didn't cut this thousand dollar expense for somebody to go to a conference because it was a select board priority that we allow town hall to do that and that he has less of a justification to us because we've asked him to do that. So.

[Speaker 8] (2:26:48 - 2:26:48)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:26:49 - 2:26:53)
That's really where I came from logically in putting it on here, but

[Speaker 8] (2:26:54 - 2:26:55)
Alrighty.

[Speaker 7] (2:26:55 - 2:26:56)
Um Doug,

[Speaker 8] (2:26:56 - 2:26:57)
Or do do you you have it on there, so.

[Speaker 7] (2:26:57 - 2:27:21)
I do I just do want to interject on when you're talking about how we uh we have two openings in our finance department yes we have openings but people shouldn't feel that we don't have anyone sitting there right now we have a top-notch consultant out of the state who's there covering what we do he's very well known he's excellent so we do have coverage in there right now but um

[Speaker 7] (2:27:21 - 2:27:39)
I and where I put my where I put this down under my priorities is staffing backup plans. I just want to make sure that we have a real clear plan on when person A_ decides they're leaving or they're going out sick or whatever that we know exactly who's jumping in to cover that spot.

[Speaker 3] (2:27:39 - 2:27:39)
Like

[Speaker 7] (2:27:39 - 2:27:39)
Just

[Speaker 3] (2:27:39 - 2:27:40)
a succession planning.

[Speaker 7] (2:27:40 - 2:27:44)
succession planning and then just lateral moving movements here and there. That's all.

[Speaker 3] (2:27:49 - 2:27:49)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:27:50 - 2:27:52)
Doug, would you like to go go on to your list?

[Speaker 8] (2:27:53 - 2:28:01)
Uh sure. Uh A_ A_ A_ B_ B_

[Speaker 7] (2:28:02 - 2:28:02)
For

[Speaker 3] (2:28:02 - 2:28:05)
So for those who are at home and listening, A_

[Speaker 8] (2:28:05 - 2:28:05)
Oh, I'm sorry.

[Speaker 3] (2:28:05 - 2:28:06)
uh housing

[Speaker 8] (2:28:06 - 2:28:13)
Housing up. Housing authority master plan A_ Hawthorne completion A_ completion of plan, right of course,

[Speaker 3] (2:28:13 - 2:28:13)
Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (2:28:13 - 2:28:15)
uh within this year.

[Speaker 8] (2:28:17 - 2:28:43)
And completion of the plan for 299 Salem Street slash the Glover, uh A_ uh climate leader investment decision, could be a million bucks. Uh B_ and I only say B_ because I think that's primarily the climate action and resilience committee that will be bringing that forward so I don't think there's a like a huge huge lift for us, but it's just something that I think is significant. Uh unused property plan.

[Speaker 8] (2:28:45 - 2:28:49)
and C_P_A_B_ uh

[Speaker 2] (2:28:55 - 2:28:55)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 1] (2:28:55 - 2:28:56)
So

[Speaker 2] (2:28:58 - 2:29:00)
And that shouldn't be an A_ to seat the committee?

[Speaker 1] (2:29:01 - 2:29:01)
I I

[Speaker 3] (2:29:01 - 2:29:01)
Why

[Speaker 1] (2:29:01 - 2:29:01)
trust

[Speaker 3] (2:29:01 - 2:29:02)
would it be?

[Speaker 1] (2:29:02 - 2:29:04)
that it's uh it's a one meeting vote hopefully our next

[Speaker 4] (2:29:04 - 2:29:05)
It's meeting coming under

[Speaker 1] (2:29:05 - 2:29:05)
to

[Speaker 4] (2:29:05 - 2:29:06)
the next agenda.

[Speaker 3] (2:29:06 - 2:29:06)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:29:06 - 2:29:07)
Okay. Alright.

[Speaker 5] (2:29:08 - 2:29:08)
um i

[Speaker 2] (2:29:08 - 2:29:09)
Okay, good.

[Speaker 5] (2:29:09 - 2:29:32)
mean just to say it because i've said it in the past i prioritize the unused property plan or like i think we talked about this when historic commission was here at one point in time of creating some sort of historic property plan and like how they may be utilized going forward that to me is a far more valuable thing considering the time than like yes we're going to have a plan for the Glover because

[Speaker 5] (2:29:33 - 2:29:36)
We have some stuff going on there, or not we,

[Speaker 5] (2:29:37 - 2:29:39)
but there is stuff going on there.

[Speaker 5] (2:29:39 - 2:29:44)
But I didn't put that as a priority because it's not really us, it's the Historic District Commission,

[Speaker 5] (2:29:44 - 2:29:45)
but I'm sorry,

[Speaker 5] (2:29:45 - 2:29:45)
the Historic Commission,

[Speaker 5] (2:29:46 - 2:29:47)
not the Historic District Commission.

[Speaker 5] (2:29:48 - 2:29:51)
But if that somehow circles into an unused property plan,

[Speaker 5] (2:29:51 - 2:29:56)
then that would reprioritize it to be more of an A than a B if the Glover's an I.

[Speaker 2] (2:29:59 - 2:30:01)
So you you'd like to see that move to an A_

[Speaker 5] (2:30:01 - 2:30:17)
Well, if it's going to also include like the identification of historic properties and their value and what we could do with them, like I would love it if it did. And you know like we can leave it a B_ but I also don't I think Glover maybe is a B_ So

[Speaker 2] (2:30:18 - 2:30:20)
A lot of A_s here folks.

[Speaker 2] (2:30:22 - 2:30:24)
Hopefully there's some dupes.

[Speaker 1] (2:30:24 - 2:30:24)
There's a lot of duplicates.

[Speaker 6] (2:30:24 - 2:30:25)
Real

[Speaker 5] (2:30:25 - 2:30:25)
There's

[Speaker 6] (2:30:25 - 2:30:25)
ones.

[Speaker 5] (2:30:25 - 2:30:31)
a yeah I think there's a lot of duplicates and we can boil this down to I don't know this I think

[Speaker 5] (2:30:32 - 2:30:35)
Probably 20, and then if we have ten A's, like great.

[Speaker 2] (2:30:35 - 2:30:36)
Great. Great.

[Speaker 5] (2:30:36 - 2:30:36)
Um

[Speaker 2] (2:30:36 - 2:30:39)
We just wanna make it manageable, right? Yi that's we don't wanna be the

[Speaker 2] (2:30:40 - 2:30:40)
I four wonder, three, four.

[Speaker 1] (2:30:40 - 2:30:42)
uh just uh I wonder if we

[Speaker 2] (2:30:42 - 2:30:42)
Mm.

[Speaker 5] (2:30:43 - 2:30:43)
Two, three.

[Speaker 1] (2:30:43 - 2:30:45)
should I should I do some markering to Oh like uh

[Speaker 2] (2:30:45 - 2:30:46)
yeah, I feel like you wanna

[Speaker 1] (2:30:46 - 2:30:47)
just to get

[Speaker 2] (2:30:47 - 2:30:47)
use

[Speaker 1] (2:30:47 - 2:30:47)
the A_s

[Speaker 2] (2:30:47 - 2:30:48)
those markers sir.

[Speaker 1] (2:30:48 - 2:30:50)
just to get the A_s all in one place, I

[Speaker 5] (2:30:50 - 2:30:50)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (2:30:50 - 2:30:50)
think.

[Speaker 1] (2:30:50 - 2:30:53)
The uh how many in terms of the Duke issue?

[Speaker 5] (2:30:53 - 2:30:53)
Yep.

[Speaker 2] (2:30:53 - 2:30:54)
Great. Trust you Doug.

[Speaker 5] (2:30:54 - 2:30:59)
So clarity on financials slash transitional audit.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:01 - 2:31:02)
Oh, excuse me.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:02 - 2:31:04)
We'll say, um

[Speaker 5] (2:31:04 - 2:31:07)
For the source of words we'll say beaches and pipes.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:09 - 2:31:11)
Um, Glover.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:14 - 2:31:15)
Um, we'll s

[Speaker 1] (2:31:15 - 2:31:17)
Glover slash Y2.99 cents.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:17 - 2:31:18)
That's what everybody's been

[Speaker 5] (2:31:18 - 2:31:18)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:18 - 2:31:18)
doing.

[Speaker 1] (2:31:18 - 2:31:18)
Okay.

[Speaker 7] (2:31:19 - 2:31:19)
Exactly.

[Speaker 13] (2:31:19 - 2:31:21)
Um,

[Speaker 5] (2:31:20 - 2:31:21)
If you wouldn't mind,

[Speaker 2] (2:31:21 - 2:31:22)
I

[Speaker 5] (2:31:22 - 2:31:22)
Marilyn.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:22 - 2:31:24)
just don't know how Glover's an A when it this is not our property.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:25 - 2:31:27)
Well, you made Glover an A on your column.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:27 - 2:31:28)
Yeah, you did. I did? Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (2:31:28 - 2:31:28)
Yeah,

[Speaker 2] (2:31:28 - 2:31:28)
You did.

[Speaker 8] (2:31:28 - 2:31:29)
you did.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:29 - 2:31:29)
Glover update.

[Speaker 8] (2:31:29 - 2:31:30)
Communication.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:30 - 2:31:30)
No no no.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:30 - 2:31:30)
Oh,

[Speaker 2] (2:31:30 - 2:31:31)
Cut out

[Speaker 5] (2:31:31 - 2:31:31)
update.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:31 - 2:31:31)
Glover

[Speaker 5] (2:31:31 - 2:31:31)
Oh.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:31 - 2:31:32)
up update,

[Speaker 8] (2:31:32 - 2:31:35)
Communication for the next one. Tau white calendar communications.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:35 - 2:31:35)
Yep.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:35 - 2:31:38)
Yep. Um so we call that communication improvements.

[Speaker 2] (2:31:40 - 2:31:40)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 5] (2:31:44 - 2:31:46)
Economic development.

[Speaker 1] (2:31:52 - 2:31:54)
And is that

[Speaker 1] (2:31:55 - 2:32:01)
Is economic development meant to be something different than the hotel Hawthorne Humphrey Street?

[Speaker 8] (2:32:01 - 2:32:01)
No.

[Speaker 1] (2:32:01 - 2:32:02)
Not really. Okay.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:02 - 2:32:02)
Okay,

[Speaker 2] (2:32:02 - 2:32:03)
You so just take

[Speaker 5] (2:32:03 - 2:32:03)
let's make

[Speaker 2] (2:32:03 - 2:32:03)
it

[Speaker 5] (2:32:03 - 2:32:03)
it one.

[Speaker 2] (2:32:03 - 2:32:03)
out.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:04 - 2:32:08)
So Hadley, Hawthorne, Humphrey Street.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:09 - 2:32:10)
Triple H.

[Speaker 8] (2:32:11 - 2:32:12)
Parking is different.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:14 - 2:32:15)
Humphrey.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:19 - 2:32:20)
And then parking.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:25 - 2:32:31)
And then full-time assessor, finance director. If you didn't write that down, that was an amendment David made to his.

[Speaker 1] (2:32:32 - 2:32:33)
And

[Speaker 5] (2:32:33 - 2:32:33)
And it's

[Speaker 1] (2:32:33 - 2:32:33)
is that

[Speaker 5] (2:32:33 - 2:32:33)
a night.

[Speaker 1] (2:32:33 - 2:32:35)
different than this overall staffing,

[Speaker 1] (2:32:36 - 2:32:39)
this is the staffing backup plan,

[Speaker 1] (2:32:39 - 2:32:41)
David's prioritization of staffing,

[Speaker 1] (2:32:42 - 2:32:42)
the prior,

[Speaker 1] (2:32:43 - 2:32:45)
Danielle's prioritized staffing,

[Speaker 5] (2:32:45 - 2:32:45)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (2:32:45 - 2:32:45)
everything.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:45 - 2:32:50)
I think David's looking for a full-time assessor to be hired and a finance director to be hired, right?

[Speaker 1] (2:32:50 - 2:32:50)
Yes.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:52 - 2:32:55)
So I think it's I think it's different.

[Speaker 5] (2:32:55 - 2:32:59)
I mean the staffing backup plan is really a like we were saying like a

[Speaker 1] (2:33:01 - 2:33:02)
Oh, that was a B.

[Speaker 2] (2:33:02 - 2:33:04)
That's just a strategy. Make sure you have your strategy.

[Speaker 5] (2:33:07 - 2:33:10)
Although it may fall into Doug the

[Speaker 5] (2:33:11 - 2:33:12)
FTEs at Town Hall,

[Speaker 5] (2:33:12 - 2:33:15)
although I think actually Danielle and Mary Ellen are more

[Speaker 5] (2:33:15 - 2:33:24)
in line with you know whether line whether FTEs should be consolidated or re-evaluated structure you're talking about structure of FTEs

[Speaker 2] (2:33:24 - 2:33:24)
Yes

[Speaker 5] (2:33:24 - 2:33:31)
right yeah I think the both of you are so but on Danielle's list we listed an A on Mary Ellen's list we listed a B so

[Speaker 2] (2:33:32 - 2:33:32)
Um

[Speaker 5] (2:33:32 - 2:33:33)
Where do we want to land on it?

[Speaker 2] (2:33:33 - 2:33:33)
okay.

[Speaker 1] (2:33:33 - 2:33:35)
You hit an A, or is

[Speaker 2] (2:33:35 - 2:33:35)
I

[Speaker 1] (2:33:35 - 2:33:35)
your A

[Speaker 2] (2:33:35 - 2:33:35)
think it's

[Speaker 1] (2:33:35 - 2:33:35)
different?

[Speaker 2] (2:33:35 - 2:33:35)
an A.

[Speaker 1] (2:33:35 - 2:33:36)
Employee thing different.

[Speaker 5] (2:33:36 - 2:33:36)
Yeah,

[Speaker 2] (2:33:36 - 2:33:37)
Well,

[Speaker 5] (2:33:37 - 2:33:37)
my A.

[Speaker 2] (2:33:37 - 2:33:40)
Muriel's is more the backup plan, right? In the cross-training, mine is more

[Speaker 5] (2:33:40 - 2:33:40)
Okay,

[Speaker 2] (2:33:40 - 2:33:41)
Mine

[Speaker 5] (2:33:41 - 2:33:41)
so

[Speaker 2] (2:33:41 - 2:33:42)
was backup and consolidation.

[Speaker 8] (2:33:42 - 2:33:42)
A

[Speaker 2] (2:33:42 - 2:33:43)
Well,

[Speaker 5] (2:33:43 - 2:33:43)
Well,

[Speaker 2] (2:33:43 - 2:33:43)
I I

[Speaker 5] (2:33:43 - 2:33:45)
so why don't we call the priorities,

[Speaker 5] (2:33:45 - 2:33:51)
the FTEs and prioritization of staffing as an A, and then we'll call the backup succession planning B.

[Speaker 5] (2:33:52 - 2:33:52)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (2:33:53 - 2:33:55)
So Hawthorne we already have on there.

[Speaker 5] (2:33:56 - 2:33:59)
Um, financial priorities, I think, did we already,

[Speaker 5] (2:33:59 - 2:34:02)
transitional audit is really also clarity

[Speaker 2] (2:34:02 - 2:34:03)
Financial priorities.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:04 - 2:34:09)
on financial status, so I think we're, we're there together.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:09 - 2:34:10)
So we can,

[Speaker 5] (2:34:10 - 2:34:13)
that's an I.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:13 - 2:34:16)
Town Hall staff is,

[Speaker 5] (2:34:18 - 2:34:18)
okay,

[Speaker 5] (2:34:18 - 2:34:19)
is that,

[Speaker 5] (2:34:19 - 2:34:20)
yep, that's that.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:22 - 2:34:24)
Unused property review and master plan.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:38 - 2:34:44)
So then if we move on to the Phelan list, it would be employee relations and morale.

[Speaker 2] (2:34:45 - 2:34:47)
Long fail on the list.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:47 - 2:34:48)
financial

[Speaker 8] (2:34:48 - 2:34:48)
All

[Speaker 5] (2:34:48 - 2:34:48)
ree stop

[Speaker 8] (2:34:48 - 2:34:50)
eight of Katie's aides.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:50 - 2:34:54)
it the financial reevaluation is already on there.

[Speaker 5] (2:34:55 - 2:35:00)
The communication is already on there. See all these dupes. Uh,

[Speaker 5] (2:35:00 - 2:35:01)
select board unity and respect.

[Speaker 1] (2:35:01 - 2:35:03)
Was this a financial evaluation

[Speaker 5] (2:35:03 - 2:35:03)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (2:35:03 - 2:35:04)
or was that the same thing?

[Speaker 5] (2:35:04 - 2:35:08)
Yep. And then communication calendar is on there,

[Speaker 5] (2:35:08 - 2:35:09)
so that's the same thing.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:11 - 2:35:13)
Select board unity and respect.

[Speaker 2] (2:35:14 - 2:35:15)
I'd say you reveal

[Speaker 1] (2:35:15 - 2:35:15)
Do you

[Speaker 2] (2:35:15 - 2:35:15)
the other one

[Speaker 1] (2:35:15 - 2:35:15)
want

[Speaker 2] (2:35:15 - 2:35:15)
too,

[Speaker 1] (2:35:15 - 2:35:15)
to do? the date?

[Speaker 5] (2:35:15 - 2:35:18)
yes please, right at the top.

[Speaker 1] (2:35:19 - 2:35:20)
Chairs prerogative.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:20 - 2:35:21)
Yep, chair's prerogative.

[Speaker 1] (2:35:23 - 2:35:26)
And then do you want like a strike like was that a heart in our

[Speaker 5] (2:35:26 - 2:35:26)
So in

[Speaker 1] (2:35:26 - 2:35:26)
record?

[Speaker 5] (2:35:26 - 2:35:27)
our house we say

[Speaker 1] (2:35:27 - 2:35:27)
It's like

[Speaker 5] (2:35:27 - 2:35:27)
you

[Speaker 1] (2:35:27 - 2:35:28)
an apple.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:28 - 2:35:30)
speak with love and respect or you don't speak at all.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:32 - 2:35:38)
Beaches and pipes is already on there, economic development's already on there, Hadley Hawthorne, vacant properties,

[Speaker 5] (2:35:38 - 2:35:41)
succession plan's already on there. So all the rest of my A's are already there.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:41 - 2:35:42)
Housing authority master plan.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:50 - 2:35:52)
It's already on there. Glover.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:53 - 2:35:54)
Is Glover?

[Speaker 8] (2:35:54 - 2:35:54)
It's on there, yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:35:54 - 2:35:54)
Oh,

[Speaker 5] (2:35:54 - 2:35:54)
Oh,

[Speaker 2] (2:35:54 - 2:35:55)
Glover's

[Speaker 5] (2:35:55 - 2:35:55)
there's on.

[Speaker 2] (2:35:55 - 2:35:55)
the same, yeah.

[Speaker 8] (2:35:55 - 2:35:55)
Yeah.

[Speaker 5] (2:35:55 - 2:35:58)
Glover's already on there. That's it.

[Speaker 2] (2:35:59 - 2:36:01)
That's it, right? Okay, one.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:01 - 2:36:04)
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

[Speaker 2] (2:36:04 - 2:36:05)
Fifty-ten.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:05 - 2:36:07)
ten, eleven, twelve. That's not bad, guys.

[Speaker 2] (2:36:08 - 2:36:08)
Diane has all that?

[Speaker 2] (2:36:12 - 2:36:13)
You have that?

[Speaker 8] (2:36:13 - 2:36:13)
Yes, I have

[Speaker 2] (2:36:13 - 2:36:13)
Okay.

[Speaker 8] (2:36:13 - 2:36:14)
it.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:14 - 2:36:16)
All right, we'll still take a picture anyways.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:16 - 2:36:21)
So these are the top twelve priorities of the select board.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:22 - 2:36:32)
And we will obviously there's some secondary and tertiary priorities, but oh there it is living in one place.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:35 - 2:36:35)
Does anybody?

[Speaker 1] (2:36:37 - 2:36:42)
I think that's uh you probably don't know all the details of all those things, but like we just split

[Speaker 8] (2:36:42 - 2:36:44)
That got a lot of in the last three days.

[Speaker 1] (2:36:44 - 2:36:44)
Um

[Speaker 2] (2:36:44 - 2:36:44)
Ah.

[Speaker 1] (2:36:44 - 2:36:44)
now

[Speaker 5] (2:36:44 - 2:36:46)
That makes sense, right guys?

[Speaker 1] (2:36:46 - 2:36:47)
the good starting point, yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:36:47 - 2:36:47)
That

[Speaker 1] (2:36:47 - 2:36:48)
The good starting

[Speaker 2] (2:36:48 - 2:36:48)
it's

[Speaker 1] (2:36:48 - 2:36:52)
point because you feel like you're gonna need more work to do this year. Like that's like exactly will be done by

[Speaker 2] (2:36:53 - 2:36:56)
Two weeks. Two two week turnaround.

[Speaker 5] (2:36:56 - 2:36:58)
Excellent, excellent.

[Speaker 2] (2:36:58 - 2:37:02)
I do wanna say one thing, one point that um

[Speaker 2] (2:37:03 - 2:37:04)
I just thought of.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:05 - 2:37:15)
This consultant that we have might be something that we utilize or a person that we utilize to help us with this financial summit piece, right? Or maybe that's

[Speaker 8] (2:37:15 - 2:37:15)
Uh.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:16 - 2:37:17)
someone that's already we're

[Speaker 1] (2:37:17 - 2:37:19)
It's met that's now within their scope

[Speaker 2] (2:37:19 - 2:37:19)
It's

[Speaker 1] (2:37:19 - 2:37:19)
now. So

[Speaker 2] (2:37:19 - 2:37:20)
okay.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:20 - 2:37:21)
it would be additional cost.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:21 - 2:37:22)
Just saying if it,

[Speaker 1] (2:37:22 - 2:37:22)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:22 - 2:37:28)
you know, someone that happens to be there, maybe it's somebody, because he has worked in so many towns and he has a certain

[Speaker 8] (2:37:28 - 2:37:28)
I think

[Speaker 2] (2:37:28 - 2:37:30)
perspective that maybe he could lend some

[Speaker 1] (2:37:30 - 2:37:36)
As an informal conversation, I'd be happy to talk to him and bring in anyone else at Town Hall that should and any of you that want to.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:36 - 2:37:37)
Just to help facilitate,

[Speaker 1] (2:37:37 - 2:37:37)
So exactly.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:37 - 2:37:38)
if so.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:38 - 2:37:38)
But,

[Speaker 2] (2:37:38 - 2:37:38)
yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:38 - 2:37:45)
But I would they are very focused on providing that professional service for communities that are in the same position we are in.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:45 - 2:37:46)
Totally.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:46 - 2:37:48)
And need third temporary help, uh opposed to a

[Speaker 2] (2:37:48 - 2:37:49)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:49 - 2:37:50)
very broad

[Speaker 2] (2:37:50 - 2:37:51)
Yeah, right, absolutely,

[Speaker 5] (2:37:51 - 2:37:51)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:51 - 2:37:51)
but

[Speaker 2] (2:37:51 - 2:37:52)
absolutely true.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:52 - 2:37:53)
happy to talk to you about it.

[Speaker 2] (2:37:53 - 2:37:54)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:54 - 2:37:55)
But it's outside the scope right now, that's

[Speaker 2] (2:37:55 - 2:37:55)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (2:37:55 - 2:37:57)
the only thing I would wanna highlight that funding

[Speaker 2] (2:37:57 - 2:37:59)
Makes perfect sense. Thank you.

[Speaker 8] (2:38:01 - 2:38:02)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:02 - 2:38:08)
Yeah, we were trying to give the most bang for the buck on the financial summit without incurring a financial cost.

[Speaker 2] (2:38:08 - 2:38:09)
Yes. Exactly.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:10 - 2:38:11)
So.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:12 - 2:38:15)
Alright, well that feels great.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:15 - 2:38:16)
Thanks for doing that exercise.

[Speaker 8] (2:38:17 - 2:38:17)
See

[Speaker 5] (2:38:17 - 2:38:18)
It's ya. really appreciated.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:21 - 2:38:23)
By way of a suggestion,

[Speaker 5] (2:38:23 - 2:38:23)
Nick,

[Speaker 5] (2:38:23 - 2:38:27)
I just thought that the prior time administrator did have a list of goal,

[Speaker 5] (2:38:27 - 2:38:28)
annual goals.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:29 - 2:38:31)
And you have that available to you? Or you can get that?

[Speaker 1] (2:38:31 - 2:38:32)
We can see.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:32 - 2:38:33)
Okay. Just

[Speaker 1] (2:38:33 - 2:38:33)
Slide

[Speaker 5] (2:38:33 - 2:38:33)
because I

[Speaker 1] (2:38:33 - 2:38:33)
to find.

[Speaker 5] (2:38:33 - 2:38:37)
think there are some themes on some of that goal setting,

[Speaker 5] (2:38:37 - 2:38:41)
whether or not we attain some of those goals and, you know, sort of where you can go some

[Speaker 1] (2:38:41 - 2:38:42)
So, I mean, just

[Speaker 5] (2:38:42 - 2:38:42)
direction.

[Speaker 1] (2:38:42 - 2:38:44)
with this list is where I would want to

[Speaker 1] (2:38:46 - 2:38:46)
Yeah,

[Speaker 2] (2:38:46 - 2:38:46)
it means

[Speaker 1] (2:38:46 - 2:38:47)
that's

[Speaker 2] (2:38:47 - 2:38:47)
that

[Speaker 1] (2:38:47 - 2:38:47)
right.

[Speaker 2] (2:38:47 - 2:38:47)
it takes

[Speaker 1] (2:38:47 - 2:38:47)
Of course.

[Speaker 2] (2:38:47 - 2:38:49)
a couple years, we're still hitting the

[Speaker 3] (2:38:49 - 2:38:49)
Yes.

[Speaker 2] (2:38:49 - 2:38:50)
interim steps

[Speaker 1] (2:38:50 - 2:38:51)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:38:51 - 2:38:52)
that we need to, but I think for

[Speaker 3] (2:38:52 - 2:38:52)
Uh

[Speaker 2] (2:38:52 - 2:38:53)
um

[Speaker 1] (2:38:53 - 2:38:53)
um

[Speaker 2] (2:38:53 - 2:39:06)
I d I don't want to say in two weeks, but in the near term, I would like to come back and present to you all like starting from here, this is what we mapped out as a staff that are mostly my goals, but things that I've been working with staff

[Speaker 1] (2:39:06 - 2:39:06)
Great.

[Speaker 2] (2:39:06 - 2:39:06)
and so on.

[Speaker 4] (2:39:07 - 2:39:07)
Yep.

[Speaker 2] (2:39:07 - 2:39:09)
But I do need some time to get up to speed on everything for

[Speaker 4] (2:39:09 - 2:39:09)
Of

[Speaker 2] (2:39:09 - 2:39:09)
right

[Speaker 4] (2:39:09 - 2:39:09)
course.

[Speaker 2] (2:39:09 - 2:39:10)
now.

[Speaker 5] (2:39:10 - 2:39:10)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:39:10 - 2:39:11)
I'll certainly do that.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:11 - 2:39:12)
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:12 - 2:39:19)
Just, I'm just thinking like what, sometimes we don't know what we missed and then we're like what, how did we miss that glaring thing? So maybe I will look

[Speaker 5] (2:39:19 - 2:39:19)
Hmm.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:19 - 2:39:20)
um for the next meeting just to see

[Speaker 4] (2:39:20 - 2:39:21)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:21 - 2:39:23)
if there's anything from the prior,

[Speaker 4] (2:39:23 - 2:39:23)
Is there anything that

[Speaker 6] (2:39:23 - 2:39:23)
um

[Speaker 4] (2:39:23 - 2:39:24)
we missed except now? Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:24 - 2:39:31)
I mean I know Diane provided our last one, but let's just check and double check so that we're being super communicative.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:32 - 2:39:33)
Um, alright,

[Speaker 6] (2:39:33 - 2:39:33)
great.

[Speaker 4] (2:39:33 - 2:39:34)
Great.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:35 - 2:39:35)
Thanks everyone.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:37 - 2:39:40)
So now we move on to the approval of the consent agenda.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:40 - 2:39:50)
On the consent agenda today we have two new appointments for the Water Sewer Infrastructure Advisory Committee for one year term Scott Morello and Bindesh Shirasa.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:51 - 2:39:56)
Discussion and possible vote to approve and accept funding on behalf of the Commissioner for Disability to purchase new benches.

[Speaker 6] (2:39:56 - 2:40:00)
A vote to approve the minutes and we also have

[Speaker 6] (2:40:02 - 2:40:11)
Executive minutes that are being repelled, we are on track to have bi-annual reviews of

[Speaker 6] (2:40:12 - 2:40:19)
The executive session minutes that have not been released to the public to ensure that the reason they were not released still exists.

[Speaker 6] (2:40:20 - 2:40:30)
So this is the second time we have gone through these minutes and so we need to tell the public when we do that and that we've done that.

[Speaker 6] (2:40:30 - 2:40:38)
So this is our letting you know that these executive session minutes are still being withheld for a particular reason which has been reviewed by outside counsel.

[Speaker 6] (2:40:39 - 2:40:42)
Um and that is the end of the consent agenda.

[Speaker 7] (2:40:44 - 2:40:59)
So I'd like you to pull out number one, discussion and possible vote for the water and sewer, pull out uh number two, commission on disability, and to um move the approval of the minutes to the next meeting.

[Speaker 7] (2:41:00 - 2:41:04)
Um because I wanna just send something to Diane on the minutes.

[Speaker 6] (2:41:05 - 2:41:06)
Okay, can we

[Speaker 7] (2:41:06 - 2:41:15)
So can we take a vote on discussion So I would make a motion on discussion of executive session minutes withheld

[Speaker 7] (2:41:18 - 2:41:21)
as listed in the ag on the agenda.

[Speaker 2] (2:41:21 - 2:41:21)
To approve.

[Speaker 7] (2:41:21 - 2:41:22)
To approve.

[Speaker 6] (2:41:24 - 2:41:24)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:41:26 - 2:41:27)
Uh, second.

[Speaker 6] (2:41:28 - 2:41:29)
Okay, all those in favour?

[Speaker 8] (2:41:29 - 2:41:29)
Aye.

[Speaker 6] (2:41:29 - 2:41:34)
Aye. Okay, so you would like to table the minutes. It's not something we can do now?

[Speaker 7] (2:41:35 - 2:41:35)
Correct.

[Speaker 6] (2:41:35 - 2:41:40)
Okay, so we're tabling the minutes for T uh 9-17, Diane for next meeting.

[Speaker 9] (2:41:40 - 2:41:41)
Got it.

[Speaker 7] (2:41:41 - 2:41:41)
Okay.

[Speaker 6] (2:41:41 - 2:41:46)
And now we will take a discussion and possible vote to approve the new appointments for water and sewer.

[Speaker 7] (2:41:46 - 2:41:48)
So in the appointments for new water and sewer,

[Speaker 7] (2:41:48 - 2:41:59)
you we have here two members and then there's one, two, three, four vacancies. And we have had an applicant, uh Andrea Moore, was put in our application.

[Speaker 7] (2:42:00 - 2:42:05)
Not once but twice, and I would like to see her appoint put on to the on this committee.

[Speaker 10] (2:42:09 - 2:42:23)
Okay, I mean we've reviewed all the applications, uh the chair, um Kelly Beacon, has reviewed uh all the applicants. Uh you know when this committee was founded

[Speaker 10] (2:42:24 - 2:42:42)
established maybe 18 months ago now you know there were certainly some lofty goals and objectives uh I think there were probably a dozen or so um objectives that this committee you know was was going to tackle um you

[Speaker 10] (2:42:44 - 2:42:51)
know reality then sets in and says all right we're not going to be able to to to address all 12 we're going to be able to address you know

[Speaker 10] (2:42:51 - 2:43:09)
four, five, six of these goals and objectives. We are looking not only for people who are interested in being in this committee, but people who are highly qualified. Uh we have two P_H_D_s, uh Scott Morello and Bindesh Shrestha. Um we think

[Speaker 10] (2:43:10 - 2:43:14)
based upon the based upon the interviews from

[Speaker 10] (2:43:14 - 2:43:30)
The you know with the with the chair of these individuals, this is this is what this these are the two individuals that are have the expertise and these would be the best fit for this particular committee. We did review all the applicants and

[Speaker 10] (2:43:31 - 2:43:42)
that was uh that was the consensus of myself as well as the chair of this committee. So I'm supporting uh the recommendation of the uh of the chair, Kelly Beagan.

[Speaker 10] (2:43:43 - 2:43:48)
to support her needs and and wants for water sewer infrastructure.

[Speaker 7] (2:43:49 - 2:43:51)
So I just want to point out that when we put this committee together,

[Speaker 7] (2:43:52 - 2:43:58)
it was uh the goal was to have a balanced committee and not to be all scientists or all engineers.

[Speaker 7] (2:43:59 - 2:44:01)
And I also want to add that

[Speaker 7] (2:44:03 - 2:44:24)
There's one, two, three, four slots open here. We have people who want to serve, people who are proven to have done an excellent job, 'cause y you can look at a million different scientists and a million different engineers and when you have someone who's a a true advocate who really will put it out there in

[Speaker 6] (2:44:24 - 2:44:25)
Mm.

[Speaker 7] (2:44:25 - 2:44:29)
and try to get the word out and communicate, they make they make a difference.

[Speaker 7] (2:44:30 - 2:44:37)
And, you know, I'm disappointed that this is taking so long to fill these spots.

[Speaker 7] (2:44:37 - 2:44:44)
And I just, I'm, I'm insisting, my opinion is Andrea Moore should be on this committee.

[Speaker 10] (2:44:46 - 2:44:47)
You know, I mean,

[Speaker 7] (2:44:47 - 2:44:47)
And

[Speaker 10] (2:44:47 - 2:44:47)
as far

[Speaker 7] (2:44:47 - 2:44:47)
I don't

[Speaker 10] (2:44:47 - 2:44:47)
as

[Speaker 7] (2:44:47 - 2:44:48)
know.

[Speaker 10] (2:44:48 - 2:44:59)
your disappointment in this taking a long time, you know, there was, you know, this is not an appointment to the REC commission.

[Speaker 10] (2:45:00 - 2:45:15)
This is not, you know, this, we were looking, this committee was looking for technical expertise, um and they found their technical expertise and they found uh the individuals that the chair and the committee feel would be the best fit for this committee.

[Speaker 7] (2:45:16 - 2:45:26)
So I would just like to know technically do I need to amend the motion to add Andrea Moore in here and take a vote or does it have to come back because it's not listed here?

[Speaker 7] (2:45:28 - 2:45:31)
Could I just ask how many applicants we have um in general?

[Speaker 10] (2:45:32 - 2:45:37)
I believe there were, I believe there was something like somewhere along the lines of a dozen.

[Speaker 10] (2:45:39 - 2:45:44)
So there were a number of interviews and there were a number of individuals who were

[Speaker 10] (2:45:44 - 2:46:06)
who were uh who were you know who had conversations with the chair and given the um the nature of social media and given the uh the attacks that other members of this committee and other members of of of committees uh you know in general that serve in town uh have have undertaken um

[Speaker 10] (2:46:07 - 2:46:08)
A number of very,

[Speaker 10] (2:46:08 - 2:46:19)
very highly qualified individuals decided to forgo their applications to serve on this particular committee,

[Speaker 10] (2:46:19 - 2:46:30)
meaning that fit is incredibly important to this particular committee and this chair. So I'm going to respect the decision of Ms.

[Speaker 10] (2:46:30 - 2:46:32)
Beacon and respect the

[Speaker 10] (2:46:34 - 2:46:41)
You know, the decision that, you know, that her fellow members and her made.

[Speaker 10] (2:46:41 - 2:46:45)
I mean, this was a long process.

[Speaker 10] (2:46:45 - 2:46:47)
I wish we could have, you know, filled these seats sooner.

[Speaker 10] (2:46:48 - 2:46:52)
We did have a, you know, a UV pilot that was ongoing.

[Speaker 10] (2:46:53 - 2:46:59)
You know, there has certainly been work that's happened behind the scenes, but it was also summertime. And...

[Speaker 10] (2:46:59 - 2:47:05)
You know, it people are a little uh a little harder to get in touch with uh in the summer. So,

[Speaker 2] (2:47:05 - 2:47:05)
Do

[Speaker 10] (2:47:05 - 2:47:05)
you

[Speaker 2] (2:47:05 - 2:47:23)
you know, know, um m maybe maybe a oh maybe a little bit to Muriel's point, I'm not sure if she can obviously speak to that, but um I'm trying to remember when we really had a um the last like full readout from this committee. Uh, you know, we've talked about the you know, the

[Speaker 2] (2:47:24 - 2:47:25)
the U_V_ or

[Speaker 10] (2:47:25 - 2:47:26)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (2:47:26 - 2:47:34)
particularly the maybe the pipes, I'm trying to think about like you know can you you alluded to like the broad scope that would happen in the very beginning.

[Speaker 10] (2:47:34 - 2:47:34)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (2:47:34 - 2:47:52)
And you know like kind of what what has happened with the committee in a sense, and like what are the priorities. And that might be helpful for at least I say speak for myself, helpful for me to understand you know the the focus on the the scientific uh knowledge or the people that have applied that haven't really been the f

[Speaker 2] (2:47:51 - 2:48:09)
the fit, just to kind of understand that, you know, mostly don't get a an update more broadly what they're looking at. So we're st we're staying aware of aware of it in light of capital planning etcetera that's coming. Um so I I'm happy to support these two people here.

[Speaker 10] (2:48:09 - 2:48:10)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 2] (2:48:10 - 2:48:14)
Um but I think it would it would be helpful to me to get an update at some point soon about the

[Speaker 10] (2:48:14 - 2:48:14)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (2:48:14 - 2:48:14)
the broader.

[Speaker 10] (2:48:14 - 2:48:15)
Yeah. Fair.

[Speaker 10] (2:48:15 - 2:48:15)
Fair.

[Speaker 10] (2:48:16 - 2:48:16)
And I, yeah.

[Speaker 10] (2:48:17 - 2:48:19)
And just to that point, Scott Morello is

[Speaker 10] (2:48:19 - 2:48:39)
is is taking over the the GIS uh analysis. That that type of that type of work that Matt Pelland, when he resign when he resigned from the committee, he's taking that over and um and Mr. Shrestha is uh you know is a is a is a Ph.D. a chemist. Uh he's going to be um taking over a similar role

[Speaker 2] (2:48:45 - 2:48:45)
So the oral

[Speaker 1] (2:48:45 - 2:48:45)
are the two

[Speaker 2] (2:48:45 - 2:48:46)
opinions here.

[Speaker 3] (2:48:46 - 2:48:49)
Okay, so I have one other thought too, I just want to say.

[Speaker 3] (2:48:49 - 2:48:57)
Um so after these two are filled, so is this accurate that there are still four that are alternates they're non-voting members,

[Speaker 1] (2:48:57 - 2:48:57)
or Yeah,

[Speaker 3] (2:48:57 - 2:48:57)
they're back

[Speaker 1] (2:48:57 - 2:48:57)
well

[Speaker 3] (2:48:57 - 2:48:57)
-ups?

[Speaker 1] (2:48:57 - 2:49:11)
well right now right now the chair is considering whether whether or not they wanna reduce the uh the the number of the number of alternates that may that may sit on the committee, they they may not be they may not be necessary at this at this

[Speaker 4] (2:49:11 - 2:49:11)
Um

[Speaker 1] (2:49:11 - 2:49:11)
stage.

[Speaker 4] (2:49:11 - 2:49:14)
I didn't think none of that thing was true. It's just alternates, okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:14 - 2:49:14)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (2:49:14 - 2:49:16)
I mean, does any other committee have four alternates? I

[Speaker 3] (2:49:16 - 2:49:17)
So the the

[Speaker 5] (2:49:17 - 2:49:17)
But

[Speaker 6] (2:49:17 - 2:49:17)
So what happens

[Speaker 4] (2:49:17 - 2:49:18)
I don't know.

[Speaker 6] (2:49:18 - 2:49:28)
on this committee, what they do is when somebody doesn't show up, which happens a bit, um an alternate is called up is is called up. And there's a number of people that are on this committee right now

[Speaker 5] (2:49:28 - 2:49:28)
That we're alternates.

[Speaker 6] (2:49:28 - 2:49:30)
that were alternates and made every single meeting.

[Speaker 6] (2:49:31 - 2:49:43)
There are there are people who have applications in who have been at these meetings have been at a number of these meetings, have followed all these meetings and they would do a great job.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:43 - 2:49:51)
So is this the only committee that has this set up where the alternates just i it they randomly if there's not one there then an alternate can just step

[Speaker 7] (2:49:51 - 2:49:51)
No.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:51 - 2:49:51)
up and head a

[Speaker 1] (2:49:51 - 2:49:52)
It's

[Speaker 3] (2:49:52 - 2:49:52)
meeting? Or

[Speaker 1] (2:49:52 - 2:49:52)
A-C

[Speaker 7] (2:49:52 - 2:49:52)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:52 - 2:49:52)
is this

[Speaker 1] (2:49:52 - 2:49:52)
-D-A.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:52 - 2:49:53)
is this

[Speaker 7] (2:49:53 - 2:49:53)
It's

[Speaker 3] (2:49:53 - 2:49:54)
comacross all of our committees?

[Speaker 7] (2:49:54 - 2:49:55)
So has alternate c

[Speaker 1] (2:49:55 - 2:49:55)
Which one?

[Speaker 7] (2:49:55 - 2:49:56)
con conservation commission?

[Speaker 1] (2:49:56 - 2:49:58)
I don't think they had this many alternates.

[Speaker 4] (2:49:58 - 2:49:58)
Right.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:58 - 2:49:59)
Okay.

[Speaker 6] (2:49:59 - 2:49:59)
Alright.

[Speaker 3] (2:49:59 - 2:50:02)
Okay, so that's an anom and that's something that's decided by the chair? Or is that something we

[Speaker 7] (2:50:02 - 2:50:02)
We

[Speaker 3] (2:50:02 - 2:50:02)
did?

[Speaker 7] (2:50:02 - 2:50:03)
we structured

[Speaker 1] (2:50:03 - 2:50:03)
We decided

[Speaker 7] (2:50:03 - 2:50:03)
it.

[Speaker 3] (2:50:03 - 2:50:04)
We decided

[Speaker 7] (2:50:04 - 2:50:04)
it. Yes.

[Speaker 1] (2:50:04 - 2:50:04)
it.

[Speaker 3] (2:50:04 - 2:50:04)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:50:04 - 2:50:05)
It's 18 months.

[Speaker 3] (2:50:05 - 2:50:05)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (2:50:05 - 2:50:05)
Okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:50:05 - 2:50:06)
Alright.

[Speaker 6] (2:50:06 - 2:50:12)
It's just at when they have their meeting it's the chair that calls you know is supposed to identify who's gonna vote.

[Speaker 6] (2:50:12 - 2:50:13)
Right, okay.

[Speaker 3] (2:50:13 - 2:50:13)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 6] (2:50:13 - 2:50:14)
So

[Speaker 3] (2:50:14 - 2:50:14)
I

[Speaker 6] (2:50:14 - 2:50:14)
I do,

[Speaker 3] (2:50:14 - 2:50:15)
would say... Sorry,

[Speaker 6] (2:50:15 - 2:50:15)
I just

[Speaker 3] (2:50:15 - 2:50:15)
go ahead.

[Speaker 6] (2:50:15 - 2:50:20)
want to address me being me, I want to address the elephant in the room, okay? Andrea Moore.

[Speaker 6] (2:50:23 - 2:50:31)
We probably all know she's done a lot for Save King's Beach, right? She's done a lot over this past summer alone with Nahant in the testing.

[Speaker 6] (2:50:32 - 2:50:37)
I don't think there is anybody who's been louder about having clean beaches in this town.

[Speaker 3] (2:50:38 - 2:50:40)
Maybe to some might say a detriment,

[Speaker 3] (2:50:40 - 2:50:51)
some might say it's kind of too much, or it's, you know, it's a polarizing personality. But I just want to caution that we need dissenting opinion,

[Speaker 3] (2:50:51 - 2:50:55)
right? And sometimes, sometimes it's not easy to work with, but sometimes...

[Speaker 3] (2:50:56 - 2:51:10)
You know, it is helpful to see another perspective. So I I understand the delicate balance of the committee too. I get it. Um but I really don't I hate to see a candidate or someone that wants to get involved, it's difficult when they're open seats to say

[Speaker 3] (2:51:11 - 2:51:20)
we still can't look at you because maybe you're too loud or maybe some people think you're too loud. Some people could say that about me, I'm sure many people do.

[Speaker 3] (2:51:20 - 2:51:27)
But you know, if they have something they can add value to what we're looking for, the ultimate goal of clean beaches,

[Speaker 3] (2:51:28 - 2:51:36)
I'm not sure there's many people that have taken on the the the awesome task of trying to trying to clean the beaches more so than she has.

[Speaker 6] (2:51:37 - 2:51:39)
I don't think we'd be here if if she

[Speaker 3] (2:51:39 - 2:51:39)
So

[Speaker 6] (2:51:39 - 2:51:39)
wasn't pushing

[Speaker 3] (2:51:39 - 2:51:40)
I mean,

[Speaker 6] (2:51:40 - 2:51:40)
us hard.

[Speaker 3] (2:51:40 - 2:51:40)
I think you

[Speaker 6] (2:51:40 - 2:51:40)
She

[Speaker 3] (2:51:40 - 2:51:40)
know,

[Speaker 6] (2:51:40 - 2:51:47)
and Sean she and Sean did a lot of work to push to really make this a focal point for us.

[Speaker 3] (2:51:47 - 2:51:55)
you know, but I I do understand too and I I to David's point you know, I want to support our chairs and it's very difficult to say to a chair that wants

[Speaker 3] (2:51:55 - 2:52:21)
you know that have made it that's made a decision I don't really feel like it's the role of the liaison to step on those toes or to overstep that's not what we're here to do either we're kind of here to get people back to the middle and say okay sometimes you know you might feel strongly this way chair you might feel strongly this way candidate how can we meet in the middle how can we still make this this committee fully functioning and doing what they set out to do right how do we do that when we have people that pull our opposite ends

[Speaker 3] (2:52:22 - 2:52:42)
I so I don't envy the position of the liaison here I don't um it's a tough one but I just I feel like that has to be said and you know it would be great if there could be some kind of compromise or some kind of open conversation where we can get everybody together and say what is the problem here really what is preventing us from getting this fully staffed with people that want to be there right

[Speaker 3] (2:52:44 - 2:52:57)
Uh you know I I would love to see that, I'd love to help facilitate it if it needs to happen that way. Um because I just I hate to see people turned away when we have what looks to me like four vacancies. Maybe it won't be four, maybe it'll be two, but

[Speaker 8] (2:52:57 - 2:53:07)
But to give context to the conversation that's already been had, David is I know that the path forward was to fill the two active seats.

[Speaker 8] (2:53:07 - 2:53:25)
So, th like we can, I think, vote to support that. But as far as the four seats that are still open, was the thought to take any of those applicants to put them in those seats or you looked at that as well. Were you just prioritizing the two open voting member seats or were you not prioritizing those other vacancies?

[Speaker 8] (2:53:25 - 2:53:29)
Because if the thought is like people feel a way.

[Speaker 8] (2:53:30 - 2:53:36)
about a volunteer then there's no better way than to slot them in an alternative seat and sort

[Speaker 6] (2:53:36 - 2:53:37)
Let's try

[Speaker 8] (2:53:37 - 2:53:37)
of let

[Speaker 6] (2:53:37 - 2:53:37)
it out.

[Speaker 8] (2:53:37 - 2:53:48)
them gain the trust of the committee and participate in like I am trying to fill a rule that Danielle is also talking about which is to figure out some compromise but

[Speaker 1] (2:53:48 - 2:53:54)
The prioritisation was to fill the two roles. The Chair indicated that

[Speaker 1] (2:53:54 - 2:54:19)
There was there would be discussion that there at an at an upcoming meeting about the determination of of how many alternates would be would be needed with the recommendation to come back to the select board regarding that as well as continuing to look at applications of that have already been that have already been submitted as well as new applications that that come in based upon need.

[Speaker 8] (2:54:20 - 2:54:21)
Yeah, I just

[Speaker 3] (2:54:21 - 2:54:21)
If

[Speaker 6] (2:54:21 - 2:54:22)
Yeah, I think

[Speaker 3] (2:54:22 - 2:54:22)
there are 12

[Speaker 6] (2:54:22 - 2:54:22)
this is

[Speaker 3] (2:54:22 - 2:54:22)
people

[Speaker 6] (2:54:22 - 2:54:23)
absurd.

[Speaker 8] (2:54:23 - 2:54:23)
yeah

[Speaker 6] (2:54:23 - 2:54:23)
I if really

[Speaker 8] (2:54:23 - 2:54:23)
there were

[Speaker 6] (2:54:23 - 2:54:23)
do. This

[Speaker 8] (2:54:23 - 2:54:23)
12

[Speaker 6] (2:54:23 - 2:54:24)
is so

[Speaker 8] (2:54:24 - 2:54:24)
people

[Speaker 6] (2:54:24 - 2:54:24)
absurd.

[Speaker 8] (2:54:24 - 2:54:30)
who applied and there are four vacancies still left I don't I'm not sure why we return people away

[Speaker 6] (2:54:31 - 2:54:32)
Well, fill these things up.

[Speaker 3] (2:54:33 - 2:54:37)
I mean does it make sense to have the chair come and talk to us until we can understand her perspective?

[Speaker 6] (2:54:37 - 2:54:38)
Well,

[Speaker 3] (2:54:38 - 2:54:38)
I don't know.

[Speaker 6] (2:54:38 - 2:54:39)
I have to be honest,

[Speaker 6] (2:54:39 - 2:54:39)
Danielle,

[Speaker 6] (2:54:40 - 2:54:40)
I... I...

[Speaker 6] (2:54:41 - 2:54:58)
I don't want, I personally don't like having a chair, it's, the role of the chair is not to control the whole meeting, not to control everything that's going on, it's to facilitate conversations and to make sure that a committee is working in a healthy way to get results.

[Speaker 1] (2:54:59 - 2:55:09)
And I'm just going to say that this individual has stepped up and is doing the absolute best that she can to

[Speaker 3] (2:55:09 - 2:55:10)
Now that's

[Speaker 1] (2:55:10 - 2:55:10)
facilitate

[Speaker 3] (2:55:10 - 2:55:10)
right.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:10 - 2:55:12)
this most important committee.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:12 - 2:55:15)
So I don't believe that she...

[Speaker 1] (2:55:15 - 2:55:17)
that she should be criticized in the least.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:18 - 2:55:20)
She is doing everything that she can do.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:20 - 2:55:30)
She is working with her committee and she is addressing the need to fill these spaces.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:30 - 2:55:34)
If you want to have her come in and give a report,

[Speaker 1] (2:55:34 - 2:55:35)
I think that would be great.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:35 - 2:55:39)
Let's work with her and we can get her on an agenda within the next 30 days.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:39 - 2:55:42)
I think that's fine.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:42 - 2:55:47)
Uh we're also gonna have an update from you know from Gino regarding the uh the U_V_ test. So

[Speaker 6] (2:55:47 - 2:55:47)
Well, I'm

[Speaker 1] (2:55:47 - 2:55:47)
we nee

[Speaker 6] (2:55:47 - 2:55:48)
not

[Speaker 1] (2:55:48 - 2:55:49)
maybe that's something that we can

[Speaker 6] (2:55:49 - 2:55:51)
I'm talking about staffing, I'm not talking about the

[Speaker 1] (2:55:51 - 2:55:52)
that we can

[Speaker 6] (2:55:52 - 2:55:52)
work that

[Speaker 1] (2:55:52 - 2:55:52)
okay.

[Speaker 6] (2:55:52 - 2:55:52)
they're doing. That's

[Speaker 1] (2:55:52 - 2:55:53)
Okay, but

[Speaker 6] (2:55:53 - 2:55:53)
my concern.

[Speaker 1] (2:55:53 - 2:55:53)
but basically

[Speaker 8] (2:55:53 - 2:55:54)
But they

[Speaker 1] (2:55:54 - 2:55:55)
but basically what

[Speaker 4] (2:55:55 - 2:55:55)
I

[Speaker 1] (2:55:55 - 2:55:55)
but

[Speaker 4] (2:55:55 - 2:55:56)
think goes together.

[Speaker 6] (2:55:56 - 2:55:56)
Yeah.

[Speaker 8] (2:55:57 - 2:56:00)
And and and I think yeah, I mean, sorry, go ahead, David.

[Speaker 4] (2:56:01 - 2:56:07)
I mean you know, Andrea, there's no doubt uh that she's been a a vital force in bringing attention to this.

[Speaker 6] (2:56:07 - 2:56:07)
Right.

[Speaker 4] (2:56:07 - 2:56:22)
Uh you she's she's not alone, uh many other people have feel extremely strongly about it as well, uh and that's one piece of making progress. Um and so I think it's you know just seems to me

[Speaker 4] (2:56:23 - 2:56:32)
It's very obvious that you need to understand what the work is ahead for the committee to understand what skills you need in order to be effective.

[Speaker 4] (2:56:32 - 2:56:44)
So let's hear from the committee exactly what they see the work to be going forward. You know, if this is about technical analysis of systems and engineering and testing,

[Speaker 4] (2:56:44 - 2:56:47)
that breeds one type of...

[Speaker 4] (2:56:48 - 2:57:01)
Candidate, right? If you need advocacy at the state level, that breeds another type of candidate. If you have something else that you're gonna be prioritizing, that maybe is a different candidate. So let's hear what they have to, you know, say about their agenda.

[Speaker 8] (2:57:02 - 2:57:03)
Well, we're already filling these roles though.

[Speaker 6] (2:57:03 - 2:57:04)
Yeah, but I but I

[Speaker 4] (2:57:04 - 2:57:04)
But

[Speaker 6] (2:57:04 - 2:57:05)
would agree

[Speaker 4] (2:57:05 - 2:57:05)
we're trusting

[Speaker 6] (2:57:05 - 2:57:05)
with that

[Speaker 4] (2:57:05 - 2:57:06)
the chair to understand what

[Speaker 1] (2:57:06 - 2:57:07)
that Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (2:57:07 - 2:57:11)
is. We want an update about it. We're not filling all the the uh whatever they

[Speaker 8] (2:57:11 - 2:57:11)
Vacancies.

[Speaker 4] (2:57:11 - 2:57:11)
vacancies.

[Speaker 1] (2:57:11 - 2:57:12)
We're not We're not eliminating

[Speaker 3] (2:57:12 - 2:57:12)
We're not on a

[Speaker 1] (2:57:12 - 2:57:12)
we're

[Speaker 3] (2:57:12 - 2:57:13)
personal

[Speaker 1] (2:57:13 - 2:57:13)
not eliminating

[Speaker 3] (2:57:13 - 2:57:13)
basis.

[Speaker 1] (2:57:13 - 2:57:14)
them either,

[Speaker 3] (2:57:14 - 2:57:14)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (2:57:14 - 2:57:23)
but we're giving we're giving them the opportunity to come in and and to and to update update the board which they they should they should be willing in

[Speaker 4] (2:57:24 - 2:57:24)
you

[Speaker 6] (2:57:24 - 2:57:24)
Well,

[Speaker 4] (2:57:24 - 2:57:25)
should I wonder

[Speaker 6] (2:57:25 - 2:57:25)
think

[Speaker 4] (2:57:25 - 2:57:25)
about

[Speaker 6] (2:57:25 - 2:57:27)
somebody's being punished here for being an advocate.

[Speaker 6] (2:57:28 - 2:57:29)
That's what it looks like to me.

[Speaker 4] (2:57:29 - 2:57:32)
I hear that's what how you feel about it, but

[Speaker 4] (2:57:33 - 2:57:39)
I sincerely believe that like, you know, we do have a lot of people that have certain rationales as I understand it.

[Speaker 6] (2:57:39 - 2:57:40)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 4] (2:57:40 - 2:57:44)
But I've said it twice already. I mean, I just want to understand

[Speaker 6] (2:57:44 - 2:57:44)
Well,

[Speaker 4] (2:57:44 - 2:57:44)
what

[Speaker 6] (2:57:44 - 2:57:46)
I would respect what you have to say, but I,

[Speaker 4] (2:57:46 - 2:57:46)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (2:57:46 - 2:57:49)
you know, I feel like somebody's being punished for being an advocate.

[Speaker 6] (2:57:50 - 2:57:56)
I mean, to me, it's hysterical if we're going to say, well, somebody was active on Facebook.

[Speaker 6] (2:57:56 - 2:58:01)
I mean, I know that there's a significant amount of select board members here that are a little active on.

[Speaker 6] (2:58:01 - 2:58:04)
upon on Facebook, so I am.

[Speaker 6] (2:58:04 - 2:58:04)
I'll admit.

[Speaker 3] (2:58:04 - 2:58:04)
Mm-hmm.

[Speaker 8] (2:58:04 - 2:58:05)
You see pictures of my kids?

[Speaker 3] (2:58:05 - 2:58:08)
So um I I would just

[Speaker 6] (2:58:08 - 2:58:08)
Oh.

[Speaker 3] (2:58:08 - 2:58:21)
say this, I would just caution that while we're looking for a certain skill set and experience, if we look at the make-up of this existing committee, I'm not sure that um that would pass the sniff test there, right? So let's be real careful when we say things like

[Speaker 6] (2:58:21 - 2:58:28)
Um we're looking for science or this and that, because I mean I'm looking at least two people here that don't have that background that are already on.

[Speaker 1] (2:58:28 - 2:58:30)
I mean Charlie Patios was

[Speaker 6] (2:58:30 - 2:58:30)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:58:30 - 2:58:32)
a was a was a connection from the from

[Speaker 4] (2:58:32 - 2:58:32)
The the water

[Speaker 1] (2:58:32 - 2:58:32)
water

[Speaker 4] (2:58:32 - 2:58:32)
rate

[Speaker 1] (2:58:32 - 2:58:33)
sewer rate

[Speaker 4] (2:58:33 - 2:58:33)
committee.

[Speaker 1] (2:58:33 - 2:58:34)
the rate committee.

[Speaker 3] (2:58:34 - 2:58:34)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (2:58:34 - 2:58:35)
that Sure, was

[Speaker 2] (2:58:35 - 2:58:35)
but he doesn't

[Speaker 1] (2:58:35 - 2:58:35)
uh but

[Speaker 2] (2:58:35 - 2:58:36)
have a science background.

[Speaker 4] (2:58:36 - 2:58:37)
I just think we need

[Speaker 3] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
But

[Speaker 1] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
that

[Speaker 4] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
is to

[Speaker 3] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
he

[Speaker 1] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
that was

[Speaker 3] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
want

[Speaker 1] (2:58:37 - 2:58:37)
that

[Speaker 3] (2:58:37 - 2:58:38)
to present.

[Speaker 2] (2:58:38 - 2:58:38)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (2:58:38 - 2:58:39)
was that was folded that

[Speaker 4] (2:58:39 - 2:58:39)
If we could

[Speaker 1] (2:58:39 - 2:58:39)
was folded

[Speaker 4] (2:58:39 - 2:58:39)
just

[Speaker 1] (2:58:39 - 2:58:40)
into that.

[Speaker 2] (2:58:40 - 2:58:48)
But I just I want to stay cognizant, I also want to stay cognizant of the fact that there is one woman on this board, um right and I and I really want to

[Speaker 2] (2:58:49 - 2:59:16)
understand that right? I w I want to see that we're embracing diversity in in all the ways that we say we should right and we're putting a mix of people with differing opinions um which is what if th one of the things that we outlined when we revamped how we appoint people to committees right? 'Cause a lot of what we got for from feedback was you know you get something based on who you know and that's the vibe of this town and you have to know someone to get something no we we we wanna change that right and that

[Speaker 2] (2:59:16 - 2:59:44)
Um it's painful, it's not always easy, but um sometimes and and and again we might not all be experts in that. If this is something that, you know, we can't cultivate or we can't help forward or we can't help progress on this committee, then maybe there's somebody else here that can. Maybe, you know, I dunno maybe Katie wants to facilitate discussion around this committee if if, you know, maybe I'll I would volunteer to do it in a minute and and see if we can get people together and

[Speaker 2] (2:59:44 - 2:59:47)
and in on the same page. I I just I wanna be really

[Speaker 2] (2:59:48 - 2:59:52)
I I support them both. I would not not support them, I think it's great.

[Speaker 2] (2:59:53 - 3:00:16)
I would like to see the chair though in front of us and really explain her rationale here and I want to be honest and open about it. I don't think there's any reason for us to pretend like this doesn't exist and you know there's a very valid question about someone who's applied and feels like they're being snubbed. So let's ask the question and let's get the answer and see what what comes of it. But I'm happy to support these two. I think they're certainly qualified, right? No?

[Speaker 2] (3:00:16 - 3:00:17)
Yeah, I don't know if that's

[Speaker 5] (3:00:17 - 3:00:20)
I mean, I know it came up as a conversation about one particular volunteer,

[Speaker 5] (3:00:20 - 3:00:20)
but

[Speaker 2] (3:00:20 - 3:00:20)
Yeah,

[Speaker 5] (3:00:20 - 3:00:20)
it's really

[Speaker 2] (3:00:20 - 3:00:20)
yeah,

[Speaker 5] (3:00:20 - 3:00:24)
about nine or ten other volunteers that would like to be participate.

[Speaker 5] (3:00:24 - 3:00:25)
It's not just about one.

[Speaker 5] (3:00:25 - 3:00:28)
While like the whole idea of who you know,

[Speaker 5] (3:00:28 - 3:00:31)
like that's also a double edged sword,

[Speaker 5] (3:00:31 - 3:00:31)
right?

[Speaker 5] (3:00:31 - 3:00:34)
So we have somebody that we're advocating for because,

[Speaker 5] (3:00:34 - 3:00:35)
you

[Speaker 2] (3:00:35 - 3:00:35)
Talk

[Speaker 5] (3:00:35 - 3:00:45)
know, they've advocated for the beaches and that doesn't mean that those nine other people aren't also valid to fill these alternate positions and are do the same.

[Speaker 5] (3:00:45 - 3:00:46)
the same um

[Speaker 2] (3:00:46 - 3:00:46)
Considering.

[Speaker 5] (3:00:46 - 3:01:08)
process and consideration and maybe they have and I'm not saying that they haven't but if there are spots open like I don't want to turn people away we are constantly asking for more and more support and I think we we can't be turning people down because they'll never apply again all right this we have one shot sometimes to engage community

[Speaker 5] (3:01:09 - 3:01:16)
And this could be the one shot, and now we are losing this person for a long period of time. So I just want to be cognizant of that.

[Speaker 2] (3:01:16 - 3:01:21)
I also I'm really not comfortable with having the chair, I think having the chair come in and defend

[Speaker 5] (3:01:22 - 3:01:23)
I don't

[Speaker 2] (3:01:23 - 3:01:23)
why

[Speaker 5] (3:01:23 - 3:01:23)
know.

[Speaker 2] (3:01:23 - 3:01:25)
they're not putting a particular person on a

[Speaker 6] (3:01:25 - 3:01:25)
But

[Speaker 2] (3:01:25 - 3:01:25)
committee,

[Speaker 6] (3:01:25 - 3:01:26)
we're not

[Speaker 2] (3:01:26 - 3:01:26)
that's

[Speaker 5] (3:01:26 - 3:01:26)
I

[Speaker 6] (3:01:26 - 3:01:26)
but we're not

[Speaker 5] (3:01:26 - 3:01:27)
don't think that's

[Speaker 6] (3:01:27 - 3:01:27)
we're not having

[Speaker 5] (3:01:27 - 3:01:27)
the conversation.

[Speaker 6] (3:01:27 - 3:01:27)
we're not that's

[Speaker 5] (3:01:27 - 3:01:28)
We're talking

[Speaker 6] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
that's

[Speaker 5] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
about

[Speaker 6] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
not

[Speaker 5] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
the

[Speaker 6] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
a

[Speaker 5] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
conversation conversation

[Speaker 6] (3:01:28 - 3:01:28)
a conversation

[Speaker 5] (3:01:28 - 3:01:29)
is a little bit more about alternatives

[Speaker 6] (3:01:29 - 3:01:30)
about and

[Speaker 5] (3:01:30 - 3:01:31)
and whether that's an appropriate amount

[Speaker 2] (3:01:31 - 3:01:31)
I don't know.

[Speaker 5] (3:01:31 - 3:01:31)
or

[Speaker 2] (3:01:31 - 3:01:32)
I'm good with that.

[Speaker 6] (3:01:32 - 3:01:32)
and

[Speaker 5] (3:01:32 - 3:01:32)
yeah.

[Speaker 6] (3:01:32 - 3:01:34)
the and the sc the sc

[Speaker 5] (3:01:34 - 3:01:34)
The scope

[Speaker 6] (3:01:34 - 3:01:34)
scope

[Speaker 5] (3:01:34 - 3:01:34)
of

[Speaker 6] (3:01:34 - 3:01:34)
the

[Speaker 5] (3:01:34 - 3:01:34)
the committee.

[Speaker 6] (3:01:34 - 3:01:35)
scope of the committee

[Speaker 5] (3:01:35 - 3:01:35)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (3:01:35 - 3:01:36)
and how and

[Speaker 5] (3:01:36 - 3:01:36)
I

[Speaker 1] (3:01:36 - 3:01:37)
how

[Speaker 5] (3:01:37 - 3:01:37)
totally

[Speaker 1] (3:01:37 - 3:01:37)
the and

[Speaker 5] (3:01:37 - 3:01:38)
agree with you. It's inappropriate.

[Speaker 1] (3:01:38 - 3:01:44)
how and how everything has and how the how the committee started what the goals and objectives were then

[Speaker 5] (3:01:44 - 3:01:44)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (3:01:44 - 3:01:48)
what the goals and objectives are now what they've seen now that they've been working for eight

[Speaker 1] (3:01:48 - 3:01:55)
18 months. I think that's valid, but uh but I agree that s uh uh to all out someone on

[Speaker 5] (3:01:55 - 3:01:55)
That's

[Speaker 1] (3:01:55 - 3:01:55)
one

[Speaker 2] (3:01:55 - 3:01:55)
no,

[Speaker 1] (3:01:55 - 3:01:55)
particular

[Speaker 2] (3:01:55 - 3:01:55)
yeah.

[Speaker 1] (3:01:55 - 3:01:56)
decision or

[Speaker 5] (3:01:56 - 3:01:56)
Yes.

[Speaker 1] (3:01:56 - 3:01:58)
thought process is is inappropriate.

[Speaker 5] (3:01:58 - 3:02:00)
Yeah, and I and yeah.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:00 - 3:02:11)
And I don't feel like this is punishment either, I won't I wanna go on the record and say that. I don't really think that's the case. I don't agree with that piece of it. Right, if that's not my personal view, I I don't think that I I really

[Speaker 1] (3:02:11 - 3:02:12)
No, it's probably been six months since

[Speaker 2] (3:02:12 - 3:02:12)
Yeah.

[Speaker 1] (3:02:12 - 3:02:13)
you've been in front of us.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:13 - 3:02:14)
Right, so

[Speaker 2] (3:02:16 - 3:02:16)
Motion

[Speaker 7] (3:02:16 - 3:02:16)
Motion.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:16 - 3:02:17)
for support.

[Speaker 7] (3:02:17 - 3:02:18)
Oh, second.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:18 - 3:02:18)
Second that.

[Speaker 7] (3:02:18 - 3:02:19)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (3:02:19 - 3:02:22)
All those in favor of appointing Scott Barilla

[Speaker 1] (3:02:22 - 3:02:23)
Morello?

[Speaker 5] (3:02:23 - 3:02:24)
and Mr.

[Speaker 1] (3:02:25 - 3:02:25)
Shreshta.

[Speaker 7] (3:02:27 - 3:02:27)
Hi.

[Speaker 1] (3:02:27 - 3:02:28)
Aye.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:28 - 3:02:29)
Aye. So I'm a no.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:30 - 3:02:34)
I'm a no with appointing anyone on a committee.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:37 - 3:02:39)
without having all the information out there,

[Speaker 2] (3:02:39 - 3:02:49)
without having the alternates. And this thing with Andrea Moore, who has applied twice and I feel that this is political, um I'm very unhappy about this. So I am a no.

[Speaker 1] (3:02:50 - 3:02:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (3:02:52 - 3:02:56)
All right, moving on to the final item which is if I go back.

[Speaker 2] (3:02:57 - 3:02:57)
Out of disability?

[Speaker 5] (3:02:58 - 3:03:03)
Discussion of possible vote to approve accepting funds on behalf of the Commission on Disability to purchase new benches.

[Speaker 2] (3:03:04 - 3:03:04)
Um,

[Speaker 2] (3:03:04 - 3:03:07)
I have two questions on that is

[Speaker 5] (3:03:07 - 3:03:09)
I don't know who you're going to ask them to, but we will do our best to answer

[Speaker 2] (3:03:09 - 3:03:09)
Uh,

[Speaker 5] (3:03:09 - 3:03:09)
them when

[Speaker 2] (3:03:09 - 3:03:10)
well I

[Speaker 5] (3:03:10 - 3:03:10)
you're done.

[Speaker 2] (3:03:10 - 3:03:11)
think I

[Speaker 2] (3:03:12 - 3:03:13)
I don't think there

[Speaker 5] (3:03:13 - 3:03:14)
There was a memo,

[Speaker 5] (3:03:14 - 3:03:16)
there's a memo in the packet.

[Speaker 2] (3:03:16 - 3:03:16)
that, yeah.

[Speaker 2] (3:03:16 - 3:03:17)
Hold on a moment.

[Speaker 2] (3:03:20 - 3:03:22)
So on this memo here,

[Speaker 2] (3:03:24 - 3:03:25)
I'm not sure

[Speaker 2] (3:03:27 - 3:03:31)
So the whole idea is to just set up a separate line item to collect the funds.

[Speaker 8] (3:03:33 - 3:03:33)
Did you

[Speaker 2] (3:03:33 - 3:03:33)
And

[Speaker 8] (3:03:33 - 3:03:33)
uh

[Speaker 2] (3:03:33 - 3:03:33)
we don't

[Speaker 5] (3:03:33 - 3:03:34)
was this

[Speaker 2] (3:03:34 - 3:03:34)
have this

[Speaker 5] (3:03:34 - 3:03:34)
reviewed

[Speaker 2] (3:03:34 - 3:03:35)
line item already?

[Speaker 8] (3:03:35 - 3:03:36)
We do not.

[Speaker 5] (3:03:36 - 3:03:45)
Were w did we review this with Patrick that we even have to approve this? Because when we had a similar conversation recently uh for the Historic Commission he said select board doesn't need to approve it.

[Speaker 8] (3:03:45 - 3:03:50)
So, uh Patrick consulted Delft, our Town Accountant consulted and

[Speaker 5] (3:03:50 - 3:03:51)
Yep.

[Speaker 8] (3:03:51 - 3:03:56)
he asked that they request that we do this just to keep it all formal and

[Speaker 8] (3:03:57 - 3:03:57)
So he has no

[Speaker 5] (3:03:58 - 3:04:00)
So so do we also need to do it for the historic?

[Speaker 9] (3:04:00 - 3:04:02)
Well, you mean that the thing that's live

[Speaker 5] (3:04:02 - 3:04:02)
Yeah.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:02 - 3:04:04)
for you right now? That's different.

[Speaker 5] (3:04:04 - 3:04:04)
Okay.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:04 - 3:04:05)
That's about um

[Speaker 5] (3:04:08 - 3:04:10)
We don't have to get into it now, but if it's different I believe you

[Speaker 9] (3:04:10 - 3:04:13)
Because because Save the Glover is not a town committee.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:15 - 3:04:19)
Save the Glover is a historic, I don't know.

[Speaker 5] (3:04:19 - 3:04:20)
Yeah, I'm, why don't we get all the facts

[Speaker 9] (3:04:20 - 3:04:21)
We'll

[Speaker 5] (3:04:21 - 3:04:21)
before

[Speaker 9] (3:04:21 - 3:04:21)
stick

[Speaker 5] (3:04:21 - 3:04:21)
we,

[Speaker 9] (3:04:21 - 3:04:21)
with this

[Speaker 5] (3:04:21 - 3:04:21)
yeah,

[Speaker 9] (3:04:21 - 3:04:21)
and

[Speaker 5] (3:04:21 - 3:04:22)
yeah,

[Speaker 9] (3:04:22 - 3:04:22)
you

[Speaker 5] (3:04:22 - 3:04:22)
yeah.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:22 - 3:04:22)
go with that.

[Speaker 8] (3:04:22 - 3:04:38)
So on, on this one here, the concern that I have is for immediate purpose to collect funds for installation of uh benches throughout the town. Who is gonna decide on where the benches go and like don't, we already have a process on where these things go.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:38 - 3:04:40)
I don't know if we have a process, but

[Speaker 5] (3:04:40 - 3:04:40)
We

[Speaker 9] (3:04:40 - 3:04:40)
if

[Speaker 5] (3:04:40 - 3:04:40)
do.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:40 - 3:04:40)
I could jump

[Speaker 5] (3:04:40 - 3:04:41)
Go ahead.

[Speaker 9] (3:04:41 - 3:04:43)
in that, a donor recognition.

[Speaker 10] (3:04:44 - 3:04:51)
And then the timeline that is attached to that is something I would like the opportunity to make recommendations to the board.

[Speaker 5] (3:04:51 - 3:04:51)
Okay.

[Speaker 10] (3:04:52 - 3:05:06)
Because if you just if you pay for the first time something's installed and then we take on future care maintenance, we can never engage a future donor. We can never replace something with outside funds again. We're just taking on a next

[Speaker 2] (3:05:06 - 3:05:07)
A liability.

[Speaker 5] (3:05:07 - 3:05:07)
A

[Speaker 10] (3:05:07 - 3:05:08)
liability. perpetuity.

[Speaker 5] (3:05:08 - 3:05:08)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (3:05:08 - 3:05:08)
Right.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:09 - 3:05:13)
And so this is something that I have some experience with from DCR that it turns into

[Speaker 2] (3:05:14 - 3:05:14)
So we we should

[Speaker 10] (3:05:14 - 3:05:14)
that's

[Speaker 2] (3:05:14 - 3:05:15)
be rethinking

[Speaker 10] (3:05:15 - 3:05:15)
not my

[Speaker 2] (3:05:15 - 3:05:15)
this?

[Speaker 10] (3:05:15 - 3:05:16)
bench or our bench. I

[Speaker 2] (3:05:16 - 3:05:17)
Right.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:17 - 3:05:25)
don't know that we need to rethink. I I just I wanna make sure that the recognition part of it is something that I at least come to you guys with recommendations. You all can tell

[Speaker 5] (3:05:25 - 3:05:25)
Right.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:25 - 3:05:30)
me that I'm wrong. It's fine, but I uh would wanna be thoughtful about that because otherwise we are

[Speaker 10] (3:05:31 - 3:05:35)
We run into the idea that it's just a line of benches like you see in Castle Island,

[Speaker 5] (3:05:35 - 3:05:36)
Mm.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:36 - 3:05:41)
and they're all a family or a name or an individual that is important to the community or or someone.

[Speaker 8] (3:05:41 - 3:05:41)
Right.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:41 - 3:05:44)
And when they need to be replaced, that then becomes our liability.

[Speaker 8] (3:05:44 - 3:05:45)
Right.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:45 - 3:05:45)
And it's

[Speaker 9] (3:05:45 - 3:05:45)
Hmm.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:45 - 3:05:50)
no longer that it's an investment that's made because it was important to an individual

[Speaker 8] (3:05:50 - 3:05:50)
that's Right.

[Speaker 10] (3:05:50 - 3:05:54)
it the spot was important to them. It just becomes a memorial to that person as opposed to

[Speaker 10] (3:05:55 - 3:05:58)
Their family is helping to support this place that was special to them.

[Speaker 5] (3:05:58 - 3:05:58)
Right.

[Speaker 8] (3:05:58 - 3:05:59)
Yep. Thank you.

[Speaker 5] (3:05:59 - 3:05:59)
Okay.

[Speaker 2] (3:05:59 - 3:06:03)
Well, the other so the the other topic that's come up with these benches is

[Speaker 5] (3:06:03 - 3:06:04)
How many more benches do we need?

[Speaker 5] (3:06:06 - 3:06:08)
Because I think Gino brought that up.

[Speaker 5] (3:06:08 - 3:06:18)
He's brought that up in prior meetings like if a bench is the appropriate way to be doing this, can we offer other ways that we can be helping the community? How many more benches does this

[Speaker 8] (3:06:18 - 3:06:18)
I'm

[Speaker 5] (3:06:18 - 3:06:18)
community

[Speaker 8] (3:06:18 - 3:06:18)
going to

[Speaker 5] (3:06:18 - 3:06:18)
need?

[Speaker 8] (3:06:18 - 3:06:27)
guess, though, disability is bringing this up because they'll be these are areas that would help with people when they're when they're out and about.

[Speaker 2] (3:06:28 - 3:06:28)
um we

[Speaker 9] (3:06:28 - 3:06:28)
There

[Speaker 2] (3:06:28 - 3:06:28)
do

[Speaker 9] (3:06:28 - 3:06:29)
is a

[Speaker 2] (3:06:29 - 3:06:29)
need

[Speaker 9] (3:06:29 - 3:06:30)
there is a listing, I don't know.

[Speaker 2] (3:06:30 - 3:06:30)
Yeah,

[Speaker 8] (3:06:30 - 3:06:30)
Yeah.

[Speaker 2] (3:06:30 - 3:06:30)
Yeah, it's on the

[Speaker 9] (3:06:30 - 3:06:31)
on back the second

[Speaker 2] (3:06:31 - 3:06:31)
page

[Speaker 9] (3:06:31 - 3:06:31)
second.

[Speaker 2] (3:06:31 - 3:06:53)
there. Um but the other thing is for example we have benches that are popping up that we have benches that are existing that have a nice little plaque that says this is in you know memorial to whoever and then next to it we have a bench looks like a billboard you know all like we're starting to come out of compliance and of you know any kind of a unity of what we look like so

[Speaker 2] (3:06:54 - 3:06:55)
It

[Speaker 10] (3:06:55 - 3:06:57)
There are similar questions to what I'm suggesting be

[Speaker 2] (3:06:57 - 3:06:57)
Okay.

[Speaker 10] (3:06:57 - 3:06:58)
addressed.

[Speaker 2] (3:06:58 - 3:06:59)
So

[Speaker 5] (3:06:59 - 3:06:59)
Great.

[Speaker 2] (3:06:59 - 3:07:01)
should we just put this on hold until,

[Speaker 1] (3:07:01 - 3:07:05)
Well, I mean, all we're looking to do is open an account that allows us to receive monetary donations.

[Speaker 10] (3:07:05 - 3:07:06)
Right.

[Speaker 1] (3:07:06 - 3:07:10)
So I think we can approve that within the next, within the next,

[Speaker 5] (3:07:10 - 3:07:12)
We'll have a conversation about what those donations will be used for.

[Speaker 2] (3:07:12 - 3:07:13)
how to, yeah.

[Speaker 5] (3:07:13 - 3:07:13)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (3:07:13 - 3:07:14)
where they can be located.

[Speaker 1] (3:07:14 - 3:07:15)
So I think that's, that's

[Speaker 5] (3:07:15 - 3:07:19)
Do they have to be, do we have to, do we have to say they're utilized for benches?

[Speaker 5] (3:07:20 - 3:07:23)
Are they open to I mean you maybe can't answer this but

[Speaker 2] (3:07:24 - 3:07:25)
Oh, that's a good

[Speaker 1] (3:07:25 - 3:07:29)
The purpose is to collect funds for the installation of benches throughout town.

[Speaker 5] (3:07:29 - 3:07:29)
Right

[Speaker 1] (3:07:29 - 3:07:30)
That's the purpose.

[Speaker 1] (3:07:30 - 3:07:36)
All we're trying to do right now is receive monetary donations. I think we can open the account.

[Speaker 1] (3:07:37 - 3:07:42)
And we can say we're looking into this and we'll have some additional information within the next 30 days.

[Speaker 10] (3:07:42 - 3:07:49)
Yeah, and I think it says there's commitments, so if we come up with a policy or an idea of how we would like to manage this going forward and

[Speaker 1] (3:07:50 - 3:07:50)
Share those with

[Speaker 10] (3:07:50 - 3:07:53)
and we share with the donors, they may agree or disagree,

[Speaker 10] (3:07:53 - 3:07:56)
and the commitment never has to become a donation.

[Speaker 9] (3:07:56 - 3:08:03)
So we're explicitly not agreeing to the stated purpose at this point. We're just opening up

[Speaker 5] (3:08:03 - 3:08:03)
allowing

[Speaker 9] (3:08:03 - 3:08:04)
everything for them.

[Speaker 8] (3:08:05 - 3:08:05)
Yes.

[Speaker 10] (3:08:05 - 3:08:06)
No, I I think if

[Speaker 5] (3:08:06 - 3:08:07)
I think we have to state a purpose.

[Speaker 10] (3:08:07 - 3:08:26)
the stated purpose is fine, their commitments we have no check in hand. We can let that we can let the eight that are referenced in this memo know that we are just as quickly as possible looking at how we want to do this going forward in a way that's sustainable for the community and for the people that are making these investments in spots that are important to them or their families.

[Speaker 10] (3:08:28 - 3:08:29)
And then the commitment will either mature

[Speaker 2] (3:08:35 - 3:08:35)
Yep.

[Speaker 1] (3:08:35 - 3:08:36)
in whatever form

[Speaker 3] (3:08:36 - 3:08:36)
Where does

[Speaker 1] (3:08:36 - 3:08:36)
they finally

[Speaker 3] (3:08:36 - 3:08:36)
the money

[Speaker 1] (3:08:36 - 3:08:37)
come go out.

[Speaker 3] (3:08:37 - 3:08:37)
now?

[Speaker 1] (3:08:38 - 3:08:40)
I'm in day three. I can't

[Speaker 4] (3:08:40 - 3:08:40)
Oh,

[Speaker 1] (3:08:40 - 3:08:40)
I have a lot of time.

[Speaker 4] (3:08:40 - 3:08:40)
sorry.

[Speaker 1] (3:08:40 - 3:08:41)
I'm trying.

[Speaker 4] (3:08:41 - 3:08:43)
Sorry, you do a such a great job. I feel like you

[Speaker 5] (3:08:43 - 3:08:43)
That's

[Speaker 4] (3:08:43 - 3:08:43)
deserve a

[Speaker 5] (3:08:43 - 3:08:44)
a great

[Speaker 4] (3:08:44 - 3:08:44)
raise.

[Speaker 5] (3:08:44 - 3:08:44)
answer.

[Speaker 4] (3:08:44 - 3:08:44)
But you weren't

[Speaker 5] (3:08:44 - 3:08:45)
But like

[Speaker 4] (3:08:45 - 3:08:45)
recording.

[Speaker 5] (3:08:45 - 3:08:45)
the

[Speaker 1] (3:08:45 - 3:08:45)
No, I

[Speaker 5] (3:08:45 - 3:08:45)
um

[Speaker 1] (3:08:45 - 3:08:46)
don't find out though. I know

[Speaker 4] (3:08:46 - 3:08:46)
It's

[Speaker 1] (3:08:46 - 3:08:46)
there's

[Speaker 4] (3:08:46 - 3:08:47)
going on somewhere

[Speaker 1] (3:08:47 - 3:08:47)
a four I

[Speaker 4] (3:08:47 - 3:08:47)
now.

[Speaker 1] (3:08:47 - 3:08:47)
I

[Speaker 1] (3:08:47 - 3:08:47)
know.

[Speaker 5] (3:08:47 - 3:08:50)
The fourth paragraph does say that um the

[Speaker 1] (3:08:50 - 3:08:50)
I

[Speaker 5] (3:08:50 - 3:08:50)
account

[Speaker 1] (3:08:50 - 3:08:51)
mean

[Speaker 5] (3:08:51 - 3:08:55)
may also be used in the future to support additional projects and initiatives undertaken by his home section mission disability.

[Speaker 1] (3:08:55 - 3:08:56)
I I

[Speaker 4] (3:08:56 - 3:08:56)
Exactly.

[Speaker 1] (3:08:56 - 3:08:58)
would I would come to a keep it general.

[Speaker 5] (3:08:58 - 3:08:58)
Yeah,

[Speaker 1] (3:08:58 - 3:08:58)
I would

[Speaker 5] (3:08:58 - 3:08:58)
I would

[Speaker 1] (3:08:58 - 3:08:58)
say

[Speaker 5] (3:08:58 - 3:08:58)
just keep

[Speaker 1] (3:08:58 - 3:08:59)
account

[Speaker 5] (3:08:59 - 3:08:59)
it general.

[Speaker 1] (3:08:59 - 3:09:01)
for commission on disability purposes

[Speaker 5] (3:09:01 - 3:09:04)
For additional projects and initiatives TBD.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:05 - 3:09:07)
So I, I agree with that.

[Speaker 6] (3:09:07 - 3:09:08)
Alright.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:08 - 3:09:08)
Is that the motion?

[Speaker 5] (3:09:08 - 3:09:09)
So any people?

[Speaker 5] (3:09:09 - 3:09:09)
Why?

[Speaker 6] (3:09:09 - 3:09:09)
That's a motion.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:09 - 3:09:10)
Second.

[Speaker 6] (3:09:10 - 3:09:10)
Second.

[Speaker 7] (3:09:10 - 3:09:10)
Second.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:10 - 3:09:10)
Second.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:10 - 3:09:12)
Okay, all those in favor?

[Speaker 6] (3:09:12 - 3:09:12)
Aye.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:12 - 3:09:12)
Yeah.

[Speaker 6] (3:09:12 - 3:09:12)
Aye. Aye.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:12 - 3:09:12)
Aye.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:12 - 3:09:17)
Wonderful. Alright, now we move on to select board time.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:18 - 3:09:19)
Where's yours?

[Speaker 5] (3:09:20 - 3:09:20)
Uh

[Speaker 4] (3:09:20 - 3:09:24)
I can't remember what I was going to say by the time the end of the night comes.

[Speaker 6] (3:09:24 - 3:09:24)
Did you write that down?

[Speaker 4] (3:09:24 - 3:09:26)
I know, I'm getting old.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:28 - 3:09:29)
I'm not going first.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:30 - 3:09:34)
You are going first go ahead because you said you weren't now you are

[Speaker 4] (3:09:36 - 3:09:36)
Yeah,

[Speaker 4] (3:09:37 - 3:09:38)
now what do I have this week? Jeez.

[Speaker 1] (3:09:39 - 3:09:40)
I'll go first.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:40 - 3:09:40)
Go ahead, Doug.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:40 - 3:09:41)
Thank you.

[Speaker 1] (3:09:41 - 3:09:41)
I have nothing.

[Speaker 1] (3:09:44 - 3:09:45)
Neither do I.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:45 - 3:09:47)
Oh neither do you Marianne you

[Speaker 4] (3:09:47 - 3:09:47)
Um,

[Speaker 5] (3:09:47 - 3:09:48)
always have a list

[Speaker 4] (3:09:48 - 3:09:49)
yeah, I have my little,

[Speaker 4] (3:09:49 - 3:09:51)
so I just want to remind everybody.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:52 - 3:09:54)
But I don't have my notes, what I'm reminding people of.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:54 - 3:09:54)
About

[Speaker 4] (3:09:54 - 3:09:55)
I have it

[Speaker 5] (3:09:55 - 3:09:55)
the

[Speaker 4] (3:09:55 - 3:09:55)
here.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:55 - 3:09:56)
Fix It Clinic.

[Speaker 8] (3:09:56 - 3:09:56)
Yeah.

[Speaker 4] (3:09:56 - 3:09:56)
Okay.

[Speaker 1] (3:09:56 - 3:09:56)
Santa Fe.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:57 - 3:09:57)
Oh, my

[Speaker 8] (3:09:57 - 3:09:57)
The

[Speaker 5] (3:09:57 - 3:09:57)
phone

[Speaker 8] (3:09:57 - 3:09:57)
Repair

[Speaker 5] (3:09:57 - 3:09:57)
died,

[Speaker 8] (3:09:57 - 3:09:58)
Cafe.

[Speaker 5] (3:09:58 - 3:09:59)
so I can't even pull it out.

[Speaker 1] (3:09:59 - 3:09:59)
Uh

[Speaker 5] (3:09:59 - 3:10:00)
Diane,

[Speaker 8] (3:10:00 - 3:10:00)
Oh.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:00 - 3:10:01)
do you have it in front of you, the Repair Cafe?

[Speaker 4] (3:10:02 - 3:10:03)
I don't. I emailed it to you.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:03 - 3:10:04)
Oh wait,

[Speaker 5] (3:10:04 - 3:10:06)
Nick's gonna get it. He's on top of it.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:07 - 3:10:07)
Nick.

[Speaker 8] (3:10:07 - 3:10:09)
And then it might take off shoulder point B_

[Speaker 8] (3:10:10 - 3:10:11)
Let's see the centre.

[Speaker 4] (3:10:11 - 3:10:12)
Well, people have to sign

[Speaker 5] (3:10:12 - 3:10:12)
People

[Speaker 4] (3:10:12 - 3:10:12)
up. So

[Speaker 5] (3:10:12 - 3:10:13)
have to sign up by the

[Speaker 4] (3:10:13 - 3:10:16)
Repair Cafe. So if you have broken items,

[Speaker 8] (3:10:16 - 3:10:16)
Yep.

[Speaker 4] (3:10:17 - 3:10:17)
um

[Speaker 5] (3:10:18 - 3:10:20)
So actually talk to them at the booth about it.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:20 - 3:10:24)
So it's not just broken items. It's like if you need your suit coat mended or if

[Speaker 4] (3:10:24 - 3:10:24)
And

[Speaker 5] (3:10:24 - 3:10:24)
you

[Speaker 4] (3:10:24 - 3:10:25)
clothing textiles.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:25 - 3:10:31)
can't figure out how to use your remote control or you figure you've you've messed up the lock screen on your iPhone.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:31 - 3:10:35)
There's lots of things that that can happen in this repair clinic. So it's not like

[Speaker 5] (3:10:36 - 3:10:38)
bring your blender and they're going to help you fix it. Although they could,

[Speaker 5] (3:10:38 - 3:10:40)
that's not the only reason.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:40 - 3:10:47)
Repaired string instruments, or if you sign up and let them know, they'll try to find you an expert to help do the thing you need help with.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:47 - 3:10:53)
So it's trying to help, you know, reduce, reuse, recycle, as I used to say when I was a kid.

[Speaker 5] (3:10:54 - 3:10:59)
So the repair services are free of charge. The repairs are obviously not guaranteed.

[Speaker 5] (3:11:01 - 3:11:09)
Please bring a spare part if you know that it's needed so that because obviously we won't have just like a box of parts and appointments are required.

[Speaker 5] (3:11:09 - 3:11:19)
You can scan the QR code that is available on the town website or you can click the link to make it. It is Saturday October 25th at the senior center.

[Speaker 5] (3:11:19 - 3:11:25)
It's from 9 a.m. to noon and you must make appointments I believe by the 20th or the 22nd

[Speaker 4] (3:11:25 - 3:11:25)
22nd.

[Speaker 5] (3:11:25 - 3:11:27)
in order for them to have the appropriate.

[Speaker 5] (3:11:27 - 3:11:49)
expert to help you and this is a program that's put on I was speaking to Wayne and Alex at the farmers market this past week and it's been wildly successful in neighboring communities like Salem and I think Danvers or Linfield and so you know they saw it happening and they mimicked it here and hopefully it will be wildly successful here

[Speaker 4] (3:11:49 - 3:11:55)
Um we also have the pumpkin toss on eleven nine, so please mark your calendar.

[Speaker 4] (3:11:56 - 3:12:14)
Um and the Solid Waste Committee is working on the trash uh R_F_P_ and they'll be coming in to meet with Nick to lend a hand there. Um the board of assessors is working on getting all their information together for

[Speaker 4] (3:12:14 - 3:12:27)
the setting the tax rate so we can set the tax rate um and that's uh that's pretty much it retirement's just working on the retirement stuff just making making decisions on

[Speaker 5] (3:12:27 - 3:12:28)
Retirement's retired.

[Speaker 4] (3:12:28 - 3:12:36)
they're retiring retiring but they're making decisions on who they're going to use for consultants and I also I want to thank the Recreation Commission

[Speaker 4] (3:12:37 - 3:13:04)
for making adjustments last week. Um so we've just come through the the high holidays, the Jewish high holidays, and on Rosh Hashanah there were three committees that had meetings on Rosh Hashanah and when the Recreation Commission realised that they were having a meeting, they adjusted right away just to be supportive and um not to interfere. And I think that it's really important um in a community, we're in a community where we have a

[Speaker 4] (3:13:04 - 3:13:20)
large Jewish population I think it's really important in the fall that we identify when these holidays are these are high holidays they're just not average holidays and that we respect that and we do not have committee meetings on on those on those dates I mean I

[Speaker 5] (3:13:20 - 3:13:22)
You know what will help? A town-wide calendar.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:22 - 3:13:23)
oh we have our town-wide

[Speaker 1] (3:13:23 - 3:13:24)
Communications.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:24 - 3:13:24)
calendar

[Speaker 5] (3:13:24 - 3:13:24)
Communications.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:24 - 3:13:24)
so

[Speaker 5] (3:13:24 - 3:13:26)
Communications, we block those dates right off.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:26 - 3:13:31)
I just you know I I know it really put them out and and I really appreciate their hard work so.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:32 - 3:13:47)
And oh, before I finish, I want to say thank you to uh the boys in the booth. Nathan Kent, Nate Beischheimer, Alexander Perez, and Mister Joel Dulette. Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:48 - 3:13:58)
I just have one thing now I remembered what it was. Um Pirate Bike School came to Swampscott a couple weeks ago, taught my five year old how to ride a bike in fifteen minutes.

[Speaker 4] (3:13:58 - 3:14:17)
I spoke to the owner, Peter Conway, who told me he is in high demand because and he was fully booked here for the two day workshop in ten seconds. And he told me that he chose Swampscott because of what he felt was a very organised um recreation department. He made a connection with Charlotte and that is what led him to come here.

[Speaker 4] (3:14:16 - 3:14:20)
here as opposed to Needham, Newton and Wellesley. That

[Speaker 8] (3:14:20 - 3:14:21)
What is it called?

[Speaker 4] (3:14:21 - 3:14:42)
it is called Pirate School and it is um bike ra it teaches kids how to ride a bike and he wants to bring his programme here because he focuses on children with special needs as well as um low income children that can't normally afford a bike lesson. And we've had some very generous people in the town volunteer to chip in and actually bring a bigger programme to town.

[Speaker 4] (3:14:42 - 3:14:56)
for those two um populations. And it it's incredible what he can do. In fifteen minutes he got my five year old riding a bike who was never able to pedal with this mother teaching him. Um kudos pirate bike school Pete Conway.

[Speaker 4] (3:14:56 - 3:14:58)
Thank you for coming to Swampscott and

[Speaker 9] (3:14:58 - 3:14:58)
Excellent.

[Speaker 4] (3:14:58 - 3:15:02)
thank you to Rec for getting him here. So that was my big win for the week.

[Speaker 9] (3:15:02 - 3:15:03)
Well, that's a big one.

[Speaker 8] (3:15:04 - 3:15:04)
That's

[Speaker 4] (3:15:04 - 3:15:05)
And welcome to Nick Connors.

[Speaker 10] (3:15:06 - 3:15:06)
Thank you.

[Speaker 4] (3:15:06 - 3:15:06)
Congrats

[Speaker 8] (3:15:06 - 3:15:07)
Yes.

[Speaker 4] (3:15:07 - 3:15:07)
on your first meeting.

[Speaker 8] (3:15:07 - 3:15:08)
Yes.

[Speaker 10] (3:15:08 - 3:15:09)
Awesome, Nick. You made it.

[Speaker 5] (3:15:09 - 3:15:09)
Thank

[Speaker 10] (3:15:09 - 3:15:10)
Here's Ocean you. to adjourn.

[Speaker 4] (3:15:10 - 3:15:11)
Second.

[Speaker 10] (3:15:11 - 3:15:11)
Okay.

[Speaker 5] (3:15:12 - 3:15:13)
That's okay. I'll go ahead.

[Speaker 10] (3:15:13 - 3:15:13)
Sorry.

[Speaker 5] (3:15:13 - 3:15:16)
No, we've already seconded. Let's just vote. Let's move on.

[Speaker 4] (3:15:16 - 3:15:17)
Aye.

[Speaker 1] (3:15:17 - 3:15:17)
Aye.

[Speaker 8] (3:15:17 - 3:15:17)
Aye.

[Speaker 4] (3:15:17 - 3:15:17)
Aye.

[Speaker 10] (3:15:17 - 3:15:18)
Aye.

[Speaker 5] (3:15:18 - 3:15:18)
Thank you, guys.

[Speaker 10] (3:15:18 - 3:15:19)
Thanks.