[Speaker 1] (9:19 - 9:20) Press four. [Speaker 2] (9:22 - 9:25) Thanks. Alright Harry, hi everyone. Welcome [Speaker 1] (9:25 - 9:26) If [Speaker 2] (9:26 - 9:26) to [Speaker 1] (9:26 - 9:27) you're satisfied with the message, [Speaker 1] (9:27 - 9:29) press one. To listen to your message, [Speaker 1] (9:29 - 9:36) press two. To erase and rerecord, press three. To continue recording where you left off, press four. [Speaker 2] (9:38 - 9:42) This could be all uh on his voicemail now. This entire [Speaker 1] (9:42 - 9:43) If you're satisfied with the message, [Speaker 1] (9:43 - 9:45) press one. To listen to your message, [Speaker 1] (9:45 - 9:51) press two. To erase and rerecord, press three. To continue recording where you left off, [Speaker 1] (9:51 - 9:52) press four. [Speaker 1] (9:58 - 9:59) Sorry you're having trouble. Your message [Speaker 1] (10:00 - 10:02) Please try again later. Goodbye. [Speaker 2] (10:04 - 10:05) At least they sent the message. [Speaker 2] (10:07 - 10:08) Somebody's gonna [Speaker 3] (10:08 - 10:08) Alright. [Speaker 2] (10:08 - 10:09) have to stop using voicemail. [Speaker 3] (10:09 - 10:10) Yes. [Speaker 3] (10:11 - 10:20) So the only I just wanna um we're ready to get started, I just wanna confirm that Tony is here, um who is our fifth um Z_V_A_ member. [Speaker 3] (10:21 - 10:26) Um I think that's you, can you use the raise your hand function or somehow communicate that you can hear us and that you're here. [Speaker 4] (10:32 - 10:35) Are you asking for me because I can finally hear you? [Speaker 3] (10:35 - 10:35) Oh, yay. [Speaker 3] (10:35 - 10:36) Okay, [Speaker 3] (10:36 - 10:36) great. [Speaker 3] (10:36 - 10:36) Thanks, [Speaker 3] (10:36 - 10:37) Tony. [Speaker 4] (10:38 - 10:39) I apologize for that. [Speaker 3] (10:39 - 10:39) Oh, no, [Speaker 3] (10:39 - 10:40) no problem. [Speaker 3] (10:40 - 10:45) All right. So we are ready to get started. We're going to move forward with the... [Speaker 3] (10:47 - 10:49) 40B Comprehensive Special Permit for Veterans Crossing. [Speaker 3] (10:49 - 10:53) Just a quick recap of last meeting. [Speaker 3] (10:53 - 10:54) This is a continuation, [Speaker 3] (10:54 - 10:58) so this is just a meeting that continues over multiple meetings. [Speaker 3] (10:58 - 11:03) Last month we had a full overview of the plan, [Speaker 3] (11:04 - 11:05) the proposed plan. [Speaker 3] (11:05 - 11:11) We also spoke to abutters and we went through a variety of [Speaker 3] (11:13 - 11:17) a variety of requests and concerns for [Speaker 3] (11:19 - 11:40) the developer to address and they have addressed a bunch of those so I think the next step now would be to sort of walk through any changes that have been made for the plans I know there's there was a shadow study to walk through there's some more imaging images and then there's also some changes with the landscaping so if we can walk through that and then we'll kind of walk through [Speaker 3] (11:42 - 11:45) step by step the different requests and what the responses have been [Speaker 3] (11:46 - 11:49) and just kind of clarify those oh also I forgot to introduce Paul. [Speaker 3] (11:50 - 11:59) Paul Havardy is our consultant he's going to be guiding us through this process so he's is there anything you'd like to share Paul [Speaker 4] (12:02 - 12:03) Good evening, [Speaker 4] (12:03 - 12:08) I'm the director of Paul Havardy, I'm the director of Steven. [Speaker 5] (12:09 - 12:17) I'm here on a grant from the National Research Institute to provide technical assistance to the board during the course of this process. [Speaker 5] (12:18 - 12:22) I don't have anything specific to address right now, [Speaker 5] (12:22 - 12:24) but I'm happy to answer any questions as we move forward. [Speaker 3] (12:25 - 12:26) Thanks, Paul. [Speaker 5] (12:27 - 12:28) Thank you. [Speaker 3] (12:29 - 12:35) All right, so would you like to start just kind of by going through any changes that have been made with the plan since we last met? [Speaker 6] (12:35 - 12:36) Sure. [Speaker 7] (12:38 - 12:42) So, thank you. Um just as a just quick introduction again to [Speaker 3] (12:42 - 12:42) Great. [Speaker 7] (12:42 - 13:06) the team, my name is Yara Varugood I'm a senior project manager for neighbourhood housing. We have John Smolic our zoning attorney, Jacob Lemieux, civil engineer, um Chris Curran, Christopher Curran, T.A.T. and Holly Grace also from B_ BVH. So as you mentioned we um have worked through both the comments that we received from town staff [Speaker 7] (13:06 - 13:23) via memo on September 8th, and the comments that were provided by the board, as well as the community, present on the ZBA meeting on the 16th. And we've made some progress plans and progress and updated our plans in the form of a progress plan set for comment. [Speaker 7] (13:23 - 13:25) As you mentioned, we have a shadow study. [Speaker 7] (13:26 - 13:27) As per request, [Speaker 7] (13:27 - 13:30) we have a new rendering of one of those perspectives. [Speaker 7] (13:32 - 13:44) We also have a memo which details our response and how we've addressed each of these each of the items but we'd like to talk about it sort of on you know on a more [Speaker 7] (13:46 - 14:12) a summarized manner you know by touching on first a civil and then the civil items that we've progress that we've made and then the architectural items we've also had a be neighborhood housing as per request from a couple of the neighbors of Pine Street across the street from our future development met with them also last week last Wednesday after we submitted the the plans to the board [Speaker 7] (14:12 - 14:16) And, you know, we're we're we're. [Speaker 7] (14:18 - 14:23) They heard their concerns and in summary some of their concerns were, [Speaker 7] (14:23 - 14:26) you know, they'd asked if the drive, [Speaker 7] (14:26 - 14:30) the location of the driveway could be removed off of Pine Street, [Speaker 7] (14:30 - 14:32) possibly through the dispensary lot. [Speaker 7] (14:33 - 14:43) They were concerned about their request for shifting the main entrance away from the Pine Street as well and they are continue to be concerned with... [Speaker 7] (14:44 - 14:50) traffic and safety around the Pine Street and the surrounding streets. [Speaker 7] (14:50 - 15:02) So on those three items we're, well at least the first two items, we're in the middle of, you know, we would like to further discuss and we are in the process of analyzing it, [Speaker 7] (15:02 - 15:10) but we do not have a response currently as we plan on also communicating and working this through with the town and the planning staff. [Speaker 7] (15:10 - 15:10) stuff. [Speaker 7] (15:11 - 15:29) So that is the summary and now I'm going to pass it to Jacob so he can talk us through the civil plans and I'm going to share I'd like to share our plan set and we'll focus on the [Speaker 7] (15:30 - 15:31) layout material plan. [Speaker 7] (15:33 - 15:34) Sorry, [Speaker 7] (15:34 - 15:35) give me one minute. [Speaker 7] (15:35 - 15:36) Oh yes. [Speaker 2] (15:38 - 15:45) Good evening, my name is Jacob Lemieux with Hancock Associates at 315 Elm Place, Elm Street, Marlborough. [Speaker 2] (15:45 - 15:49) I'm the civil engineer on the project as soon as here we go. [Speaker 2] (15:50 - 16:04) So we've made a number of changes based off of the town of the DPW as well as the abutter comments. First off, we've raised the elevation of the first floor of the building up to elevation 16. [Speaker 2] (16:05 - 16:13) so we're now compliant with the building elevations and where we've got two extra feet above the floodplain which gives us climate resiliency for the future. [Speaker 2] (16:15 - 16:19) We have adjusted our parking lot. [Speaker 2] (16:19 - 16:22) We are now proposing a one-way circulation. [Speaker 2] (16:22 - 16:27) This allows us to have an area on the right as you pull in for a [Speaker 2] (16:28 - 16:33) for a loading area there while still allowing traffic to flow around the parking area. [Speaker 2] (16:33 - 16:39) This stops people from potentially parking on the roadway and walking into the building entrance. [Speaker 2] (16:39 - 16:54) We're also proposing some no parking striping down the roadway to make sure that the curb cut is clear of any sort of blockage so that we can ensure that the garbage truck is able to. [Speaker 2] (16:54 - 16:56) um travel through the site. [Speaker 2] (16:56 - 16:58) Can you go up to the top there? [Speaker 2] (17:00 - 17:01) Maybe just zoom in on it. [Speaker 7] (17:02 - 17:02) Oops. [Speaker 2] (17:05 - 17:06) There [Speaker 2] (17:07 - 17:08) Are you going up or you wanna go down? [Speaker 2] (17:13 - 17:14) One more. [Speaker 7] (17:14 - 17:14) One more. [Speaker 2] (17:15 - 17:15) Yep. [Speaker 7] (17:16 - 17:17) Okay. [Speaker 2] (17:18 - 17:19) So uh [Speaker 2] (17:19 - 17:37) We have done a turning analysis throughout the parking lot to show that a a large rear-load um garbage truck can get in, can collect the garbage and make that turn out there, even with uh s a vehicle parked in that loading dock area. [Speaker 2] (17:39 - 17:40) Now if we want to [Speaker 3] (17:40 - 17:40) Has [Speaker 2] (17:40 - 17:40) go [Speaker 3] (17:40 - 17:41) has fire reviewed that as well? [Speaker 2] (17:42 - 17:43) No they have not reviewed that yet. [Speaker 3] (17:43 - 17:44) Okay. [Speaker 3] (17:44 - 17:47) Is that has that been requested or are we waiting on that we should we make [Speaker 2] (17:47 - 17:47) Um, [Speaker 3] (17:47 - 17:48) that request? [Speaker 2] (17:48 - 17:56) it has not officially been requested, but it's definitely uh going to be reviewed by the fire department as part of the review period. [Speaker 2] (17:58 - 18:03) Um additionally can you just zoom in on the parking lot area and I'll ask you to do all these acrobatics. [Speaker 3] (18:03 - 18:04) No, no, no. Got it. [Speaker 2] (18:05 - 18:11) Um I'll by reducing the travel widths because now we're going in one way circulation um [Speaker 2] (18:11 - 18:39) That's allowed us to pull our parking back further away from the abutting parcels by a few feet, as well as provide two or three feet, or I think it's three feet of landscaped area between the marijuana dispensary parcel and the project parcel where some plantings can be installed as well as we're proposing a four-foot fence just to sort of separate the two areas. [Speaker 2] (18:43 - 18:52) One other thing to mention on this sheet, there was a set of stairs coming off of the other side of the front porch, right where you are showing here. [Speaker 2] (18:52 - 19:01) We've removed that set of stairs, which means that all traffic going up to the entrance of the building must travel on site. [Speaker 2] (19:01 - 19:04) And people can't just leave off onto the walkway there. [Speaker 2] (19:06 - 19:10) We can go to the next sheet. [Speaker 2] (19:12 - 19:40) The, next one after this, yep. Uh so we've adjusted the grading in the parking lot to meet the new building elevations. Uh really not any other changes on the storm water plan besides we've added uh per DPW request we've added a uh clean out manhole to the to the uh sewer line uh and as well as modifying the cur the sewer connection from a insurgent to using a Y. [Speaker 2] (19:41 - 19:43) Um then we can go to the [Speaker 7] (19:43 - 19:46) What we talk about the so what you did the testing that you did? [Speaker 2] (19:46 - 19:54) Oh yeah, we we're also in the process, although we haven't completed this yet, um of reviewing the uh sewer capacity on this [Speaker 1] (20:04 - 20:14) I've sent that information over to DPW, they're reviewing that now and we'll set up a meeting to continue that discussion with the DPW. [Speaker 1] (20:15 - 20:17) and report back to the board as soon as we can. [Speaker 1] (20:19 - 20:22) I think we could just go to landscaping. [Speaker 1] (20:23 - 20:38) So one of the changes on the landscaping plan is by the property line in the back of the parking lot area is essentially entirely on top of the subsurface culvert that's in the area. [Speaker 1] (20:38 - 20:44) So Gino has requested that we remove and don't plant any trees over the culvert. [Speaker 1] (20:45 - 20:46) So we've modified our plan. [Speaker 1] (20:47 - 20:51) Now we're either we're not showing trees or evergreens over the culvert. [Speaker 1] (20:52 - 20:56) We replaced them with shrubs and grasses instead. [Speaker 1] (21:06 - 21:07) Oh, the fence? [Speaker 2] (21:07 - 21:08) No, but the green here. [Speaker 1] (21:08 - 21:22) Oh yeah, that's so again, th you know we've by narrowing up that parking area you're able to have a nice landscape area on the north side of the parking lot which we didn't have before as well as between the two parcels there. That we just put to uh lighting. [Speaker 1] (21:24 - 21:28) Uh we've also gone back and modified our lighting design [Speaker 2] (21:28 - 21:28) You can leave it. [Speaker 1] (21:30 - 21:30) to rem [Speaker 2] (21:30 - 21:32) S I'm sorry, I was just going to keep it open. [Speaker 1] (21:33 - 21:50) To remove any light spill from the abutting residential parcels. So now we are shielding and not proposing any light spill onto any of the sides of the parcel except for the roadway, which is going to be lit anyways by municipal lighting. [Speaker 1] (21:52 - 21:59) We've also had the trees out there surveyed by an arborist to see if any of them could be saved. [Speaker 1] (22:00 - 22:11) Um but it doesn't look like any of the existing trees that are on the culvert can be kept there without putting the culvert at risk of future damage. So that is why uh Gino has requested them be removed. [Speaker 1] (22:13 - 22:27) Uh we've also added E_V_ charging stations. Um one of them will be a handicapped space and uh I thi and one will just be a normal space up there at the top of the parking area. [Speaker 1] (22:28 - 22:29) And uh [Speaker 1] (22:32 - 22:47) Oh yeah, we all we did go out in a per request of the abutters, we surveyed all the location of all the abutting parcels in the rear and across the street so that we're able to give accurate setbacks and um properly [Speaker 1] (22:48 - 22:52) um show where the building will be placed in relation to the neighbourhood. [Speaker 1] (22:53 - 22:59) And I think uh and as far as civil items go, that covers it. Chris do you wanna [Speaker 2] (22:59 - 22:59) Um [Speaker 1] (22:59 - 22:59) tackle? [Speaker 2] (22:59 - 23:09) do you mind going back to the um so there was a different landscape. There's that and there was something that had these like red circles that I don't know if I have here. [Speaker 3] (23:10 - 23:10) Uh [Speaker 2] (23:12 - 23:14) In the landscaping that was in colour. [Speaker 3] (23:14 - 23:14) This? [Speaker 2] (23:14 - 23:14) This [Speaker 1] (23:14 - 23:15) Uh [Speaker 2] (23:15 - 23:17) yeah. So that [Speaker 2] (23:17 - 23:19) It has some of the older landscaping on it, that [Speaker 1] (23:19 - 23:19) Yes, [Speaker 2] (23:19 - 23:19) image, okay, [Speaker 1] (23:19 - 23:20) yeah. [Speaker 2] (23:20 - 23:20) alright. [Speaker 1] (23:20 - 23:22) There's there's no trees up [Speaker 4] (23:22 - 23:22) Yeah, [Speaker 1] (23:22 - 23:22) against that. [Speaker 4] (23:22 - 23:27) but fortunately uh you know, we haven't up fully updated all the renderings as they they're a little bit [Speaker 2] (23:27 - 23:41) So do you h can when you're looking at um say the one that is more updated with the um with the new plantings, can you just kind of, with the cursor, show where the culvert is? [Speaker 1] (23:46 - 23:48) Yeah, I mean if if you assume it'll probably be easier if you [Speaker 4] (23:50 - 23:50) You want me to go in front [Speaker 1] (23:50 - 23:52) what if you uh I can just [Speaker 1] (23:52 - 23:53) Okay. [Speaker 1] (23:56 - 23:58) Is there a way to make a mark on here? [Speaker 1] (24:00 - 24:01) Oh oh that's not it. [Speaker 4] (24:01 - 24:03) It's not like the living. [Speaker 1] (24:03 - 24:06) Yeah. So the cover runs [Speaker 1] (24:07 - 24:09) essentially w if you could see where my [Speaker 1] (24:10 - 24:11) my marker is runs [Speaker 2] (24:11 - 24:12) Yep. [Speaker 1] (24:12 - 24:22) along here like c uh crosses it's r straddles this property line here, runs back here, connects to another culvert that goes north this way, [Speaker 1] (24:23 - 24:28) and then it continues this way sort of through this green space that we're showing here. [Speaker 2] (24:28 - 24:28) Okay. [Speaker 2] (24:30 - 24:34) And the thought is that larger trees, the roots would then [Speaker 1] (24:34 - 24:34) Yeah, [Speaker 2] (24:34 - 24:35) in fact just cause more [Speaker 1] (24:35 - 24:35) over [Speaker 2] (24:35 - 24:35) problem? [Speaker 1] (24:35 - 24:39) time it could cause problems and with the building there potentially close to the culvert that could [Speaker 1] (24:40 - 24:42) It could eventually be a structural issue. [Speaker 2] (24:43 - 24:53) Um so and of the trees that are being planted, that are um on this plan, how many of them are sort of larger sh shade trees like fe for the future are going to be? [Speaker 1] (24:54 - 24:56) I assume it was this one. Oh, right here. [Speaker 2] (25:00 - 25:01) There's one elm mentioned. [Speaker 1] (25:02 - 25:10) Yep, there's I'll go through them right now. There's uh one yellowwood, one elm, two honey locust, two [Speaker 1] (25:09 - 25:15) two maples and two sycamore trees, so eight trees total. [Speaker 2] (25:19 - 25:22) That would be considered shade trees? [Speaker 1] (25:22 - 25:23) Yeah, right. [Speaker 2] (25:30 - 25:31) Thanks. [Speaker 2] (25:33 - 25:34) Oh, let me get. [Speaker 4] (25:39 - 25:39) Chris, do you wanna [Speaker 5] (25:45 - 26:05) How you doing? Uh my name is Christopher Crowe with T.A.T. Um so to go through the updates that we did here, um so the first thing we as Jacob mentioned is we removed the stair off the right of the porch, the entry porch. So it has now been removed, um and we're going to be redesigning and tweaking the [Speaker 5] (26:06 - 26:26) uh the porch a little bit to kind of clean that up uh overall how you know style-wise later on but we capped it off so now we have the entry is just our main entry when you're coming in as we had it um incorporating the ramp as we had earlier uh so that was our big uh big move that we did here was just on the first floor [Speaker 5] (26:27 - 26:44) Also kind of addressing comments about the secondary door to the right, you know, that's an egres only, emergency egres only stair. There'll be alarms and triggers, etcetera. We'll deal with that through hardware about keeping that door propped open so people are kind of going out and in and out. [Speaker 5] (26:45 - 26:47) So that's, you know, for management to kind of take care [Speaker 2] (26:47 - 26:47) So [Speaker 5] (26:47 - 26:48) of. [Speaker 2] (26:48 - 26:48) it won't happen. [Speaker 5] (26:48 - 26:49) No, exactly. [Speaker 2] (26:49 - 26:50) Yeah, just clear. [Speaker 5] (26:50 - 26:51) Yes, it will not happen. That's [Speaker 2] (26:51 - 26:51) Right, [Speaker 5] (26:51 - 26:52) the whole point. [Speaker 2] (26:52 - 26:52) right. [Speaker 5] (26:52 - 26:56) We'll we'll do whatever we can to make sure it's alarm triggered, keeps it uh sirens to [Speaker 5] (26:57 - 26:58) eggs only. [Speaker 2] (26:58 - 26:58) Yep. [Speaker 5] (26:58 - 27:00) Um [Speaker 5] (27:01 - 27:19) Uh so that's pretty much what we did here as you can see. So this really just kind of highlights as Jacob talked about uh with the parking. So we just wanted to highlight uh how the flow of the parking would m uh look with the striping, um the sidewalk uh etcetera, within this uh site here. Um [Speaker 5] (27:20 - 27:40) We also did a shadow study as was asked last time that we were here. Um so we had our building models and this showing pretty much the peak times that we had in uh the equinoxes and the shortest day of the year uh and the longest day of the year. Um and just kind of the p the most extreme conditions that can happen. [Speaker 5] (27:41 - 27:46) So as you can see the dark blue is representing where our building would be creating sunl uh shade. [Speaker 5] (27:47 - 27:50) to the neighbouring buildings and we go through all four uh [Speaker 5] (27:51 - 27:53) seasons of the peat to see what they are. [Speaker 5] (27:55 - 27:59) And again that's through a software that picks out which days are the most critical. [Speaker 2] (28:02 - 28:03) Any other? [Speaker 5] (28:04 - 28:05) And [Speaker 5] (28:07 - 28:15) and then we have an updated perspective rendering that we did um that was asked for us last time to kind of give a better feel. So if you wanna go to the before [Speaker 5] (28:16 - 28:19) So this is currently how the site is. You know, we have a nice porta-potty over here. [Speaker 5] (28:20 - 28:27) So to give a sense of scale looking dow uh looking down Pine Street, so now if you look to the next street, uh next to you, yep. [Speaker 5] (28:27 - 28:34) Now you can see the scale towards the, you know, one story uh two story houses across the street, the single family homes. [Speaker 5] (28:34 - 28:50) Um and where those gables and peaks of their roofs line up pretty much with our second floor line. Um again we match our scale of windows the truck fitting with the neighbourhood, so to have that contextual feel. Um so yeah so obviously it's a little bit bigger, but the again the scale is very similar. [Speaker 5] (28:55 - 28:58) And that's really uh will we uh uh So the sound? [Speaker 4] (28:58 - 29:13) that's it, you know, that summarizes the architectural and the civil uh updates that we made. We also um in terms of other construction management and operation items that were talked about last meeting um, [Speaker 4] (29:13 - 29:22) you know, we are we will be submitting, prior to build as a condition to building permit, a full construction management plan and a pest control plan. [Speaker 4] (29:22 - 29:27) We're committing to, you know, a clear trash protocol, [Speaker 4] (29:27 - 29:28) sealed dumpsters, [Speaker 4] (29:28 - 29:30) regular collection and no overflow. [Speaker 4] (29:31 - 29:41) We'll also be coordinating with the town in the design of the monument sign prior to the final approval and issuing of a building permit. [Speaker 4] (29:41 - 29:47) And we've withdrawn a request for the permit and connection waiver fees. [Speaker 4] (29:48 - 29:49) Um I think that's something [Speaker 1] (30:14 - 30:18) as um the project continues to be uh, you know, re reviewed. [Speaker 1] (30:19 - 30:20) Yep. [Speaker 1] (30:23 - 30:24) I'm just g looking through the list [Speaker 2] (30:24 - 30:24) No. [Speaker 1] (30:24 - 30:26) to make sure we didn't skip anything. [Speaker 1] (30:41 - 30:43) Yeah, I think that's all the things that were on the [Speaker 3] (30:44 - 30:49) questions. Um does anybody from the board have questions? [Speaker 3] (30:49 - 30:50) I don't know. [Speaker 3] (30:50 - 30:51) I don't. [Speaker 1] (30:51 - 30:51) No. [Speaker 4] (30:51 - 30:52) I do not. [Speaker 3] (30:56 - 31:01) Paul, is there anything that you wanted to make sure we're looking at at this point? [Speaker 3] (31:07 - 31:08) He's muted. But [Speaker 4] (31:08 - 31:10) I apologise, I was muted. [Speaker 4] (31:12 - 31:13) Ah, no, so far so good. [Speaker 3] (31:13 - 31:14) Okay, thanks. [Speaker 3] (31:15 - 31:40) All right, so we're going to um uh open up for um any questions from abutters. Um I'm just going to ask that we keep it to kind of new questions. We've covered a lot of things last time. If you have questions about how those were addressed, um that's fine. But and if you have new questions that would be great. Um so if anybody has any questions that um just raise your hand and um please state your um name and address. [Speaker 4] (31:40 - 31:41) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (31:41 - 31:41) Thanks. [Speaker 4] (31:42 - 31:45) Street, um directly across from [Speaker 3] (31:45 - 31:48) Oh, we're just gonna get you a microphone. Sorry about that, I should have said that. [Speaker 4] (32:01 - 32:07) Steve Gadman, Levin Pine Street, directly across from uh the building going up. Uh [Speaker 4] (32:08 - 32:16) On the where the parking that they're taking away on each side of the the driveway that's going in, that's kind of why we requested [Speaker 4] (32:17 - 32:28) that be moved because there's a lot of people that park from New Ocean Street that park on Pine Street because they live in the apartments over there. [Speaker 4] (32:28 - 32:31) Taking that parking away from there, [Speaker 4] (32:31 - 32:35) we know where they're going to end up. They're going to end up parking in front of our house. [Speaker 4] (32:36 - 32:44) and make it more complicated for us. They they they squeeze in places where they should they they shouldn't. We're going through that right now. [Speaker 4] (32:45 - 32:58) So that's why we we did request to have, if possible, just have the one exit and entrance over by the local now going in that way there. [Speaker 3] (32:59 - 32:59) We [Speaker 4] (33:00 - 33:02) The way it is right now, uh [Speaker 3] (33:02 - 33:24) Instead of having it facing our houses. Yeah, so I I had heard that and then you got you they mentioned that sounds like that is something that was discussed very recently and that there hasn't been sort of work through on how to make that work but I think that should be something on the table definitely and I think the developer agrees that's something that they're willing to try to work out to see how that would work um and work with the town on that so that's [Speaker 3] (33:25 - 33:39) So I would say let's table the the concern about that stretch being Okay. no parking for now until we see what those plans look like and then see if it's necessary to have you know what's necessary to have marked as no parking once we see kind of what gets worked through. [Speaker 4] (33:39 - 33:39) Right. [Speaker 3] (33:39 - 33:40) Does that make [Speaker 4] (33:40 - 33:40) And [Speaker 3] (33:40 - 33:40) sense? [Speaker 4] (33:40 - 33:43) question to the engineer about the culvert. [Speaker 4] (33:45 - 33:50) You had mentioned the one going along the property and then one going north. [Speaker 4] (33:50 - 33:53) What about the one going across Pine Street? [Speaker 5] (33:54 - 34:01) So the one going to the south is going to be relocated prior to the construction of this project. [Speaker 5] (34:01 - 34:01) Uh [Speaker 4] (34:01 - 34:03) So that's the that's the one that's being relocated? [Speaker 5] (34:03 - 34:04) Yes. [Speaker 4] (34:04 - 34:06) Okay, I I wasn't sure which one was [Speaker 5] (34:06 - 34:21) with. Now the other the other ones that run along the north and go to the north, those are staying in the same place. The culvert that's under the roadway is going in the same place. We're coming around and then tying back into the culvert. So we're just relocating the section that comes down south through the site. [Speaker 4] (34:22 - 34:22) Okay. [Speaker 4] (34:26 - 34:26) And does [Speaker 3] (34:26 - 34:26) Does [Speaker 4] (34:26 - 34:27) anybody [Speaker 3] (34:27 - 34:33) anybody else have any questions or comments? I just say your name and address please. And actually if you can pass the microphone, thank you. [Speaker 6] (34:34 - 34:35) Alicia McCarthy, [Speaker 6] (34:35 - 34:41) Nine Pine Street. I'm just wondering if you could point to the [Speaker 6] (34:42 - 34:48) documents that I should look at for all of the like sewer information. [Speaker 6] (34:48 - 34:51) I know the culverts have been an issue. [Speaker 6] (34:51 - 34:57) I know over the past year they've spent countless hours cleaning them out every single day. [Speaker 6] (34:58 - 35:01) I don't know I've lived here for a long time. [Speaker 6] (35:01 - 35:06) I don't know the last time they cleaned them out like that. I'm just wondering is that going to be maintained? [Speaker 6] (35:06 - 35:08) Does it need to be maintained in order? [Speaker 6] (35:09 - 35:10) But yeah, [Speaker 3] (35:10 - 35:10) it's [Speaker 6] (35:10 - 35:10) that's [Speaker 3] (35:10 - 35:10) so those [Speaker 6] (35:10 - 35:11) to work who [Speaker 3] (35:11 - 35:11) that's those [Speaker 6] (35:11 - 35:11) is [Speaker 3] (35:11 - 35:11) good [Speaker 6] (35:11 - 35:12) responsible for maintaining [Speaker 3] (35:12 - 35:13) questions [Speaker 6] (35:13 - 35:13) that? [Speaker 3] (35:13 - 35:20) yeah at this point it looks like they're still doing they're still studying so they clean them out they sent a camera down to take pictures [Speaker 3] (35:21 - 35:32) and I'm sure you can say more than more than that but and then it's getting reviewed by it from DPW and so that that's still a portion of this project that is being worked on is there anything else that's [Speaker 5] (35:32 - 35:33) No, that's that's correct. [Speaker 3] (35:33 - 35:49) correct okay and so if you need to find act the documents for like all these documents with the sewage plans and things like that they are available on the town website and Christy can help you access them if you're having trouble but everything that's been submitted to us is [Speaker 3] (35:48 - 35:50) is posted there so everyone can [Speaker 5] (35:50 - 35:50) And [Speaker 3] (35:50 - 35:50) see it. [Speaker 5] (35:50 - 35:52) once we get this study further along, [Speaker 5] (35:52 - 35:56) it'll be submitted to the board as well, so you'll have access to that. [Speaker 3] (35:56 - 35:57) Yeah, so once the [Speaker 6] (35:57 - 35:57) Okay, [Speaker 3] (35:57 - 35:57) study is [Speaker 6] (35:57 - 35:58) so it's just not completed. [Speaker 3] (35:58 - 35:59) the study's not completed yet. [Speaker 6] (35:59 - 36:00) Okay, thank you. [Speaker 3] (36:00 - 36:01) No problem. [Speaker 3] (36:02 - 36:05) Is there anybody online who has questions also? [Speaker 3] (36:05 - 36:07) You can, oh, someone has their, raise their hand. [Speaker 3] (36:07 - 36:08) MF. [Speaker 7] (36:12 - 36:13) Hi Heather. [Speaker 3] (36:14 - 36:14) Hello? [Speaker 8] (36:15 - 36:16) Can you hear me? [Speaker 3] (36:16 - 36:17) Yep, we can hear you. [Speaker 8] (36:17 - 36:19) This is Mary Ellen Fletcher, [Speaker 8] (36:19 - 36:21) Precinct 4. [Speaker 8] (36:22 - 36:26) I just have a question. I missed what Yara said about fees. [Speaker 8] (36:26 - 36:28) Could she just repeat that? [Speaker 3] (36:28 - 36:34) Oh, the all the fees have the the different fees that have that were requested waiver those waivers are going to be withdrawn. [Speaker 3] (36:35 - 36:36) Those waiver requests, [Speaker 3] (36:36 - 36:38) the waiver requests are going to be withdrawn. [Speaker 5] (36:38 - 36:39) So it'd be paying. [Speaker 8] (36:39 - 36:39) Okay. [Speaker 3] (36:39 - 36:40) So they will be paying the fees. [Speaker 8] (36:41 - 36:43) Thank you. I just want a clarification on that. [Speaker 3] (36:44 - 36:44) You're welcome. [Speaker 8] (36:45 - 36:46) Thank you. [Speaker 3] (36:50 - 36:51) All right, does anybody else have anything? [Speaker 9] (36:58 - 37:03) One question we had was related to peer review. We understood that there was an effort for [Speaker 9] (37:04 - 37:15) uh peer review, we're not sure exactly what the peer review was proposed for, and I'm not sure we've seen any details on that and wondering whether the board has heard anything further on [Speaker 3] (37:15 - 37:15) So [Speaker 9] (37:15 - 37:15) that. [Speaker 3] (37:15 - 37:27) the p we were we were our plan was to do peer uh s um more peer review on um parking and traffic in that area, but if if there's a chance that one of the concerns was the kind of um [Speaker 5] (37:28 - 37:29) The review of it. [Speaker 3] (37:29 - 37:44) The relo yeah, if you're reloc if you're relocating that, that all changes. So we'd want to we'd want sort of a study done that we could review once you've made the changes, if you're going to make them. Um and then the other peer review was for um the um [Speaker 3] (37:45 - 37:47) What was that officially called, Christy? The [Speaker 3] (37:49 - 37:58) for all the civil plans. And that, um that was recommend I think Gino recommended somebody to do that peer review for us. Um [Speaker 9] (37:58 - 37:59) Okay. [Speaker 3] (37:59 - 38:02) And we will be in contact with you soon. [Speaker 9] (38:03 - 38:03) Okay. [Speaker 3] (38:03 - 38:03) Yeah. [Speaker 9] (38:03 - 38:05) Yeah, we'd like to just see what the scope is and [Speaker 3] (38:05 - 38:05) Yeah. [Speaker 9] (38:05 - 38:06) take another look. [Speaker 3] (38:06 - 38:06) Yeah. Great. [Speaker 9] (38:06 - 38:07) Great. [Speaker 9] (38:07 - 38:08) Thank you. [Speaker 3] (38:09 - 38:15) I think those are the only two peer reviews we're planning on doing. Um but yeah, we'll hold off on the on the traffic until we have a a definite [Speaker 10] (38:15 - 38:19) But on on the civil, we far enough along to engage a peer review? [Speaker 5] (38:22 - 38:23) I I personally [Speaker 5] (38:24 - 38:34) I just don't think that there's really anywhere else that the design can go. So I don't know that it would be premature to get a peer reviewer looking at it. [Speaker 10] (38:35 - 38:37) Well, more than a vote, things like the just the [Speaker 5] (38:37 - 38:38) Well, yeah, [Speaker 5] (38:38 - 38:38) yeah. [Speaker 3] (38:38 - 38:39) You have the dry [Speaker 10] (38:39 - 38:39) just getting [Speaker 3] (38:39 - 38:39) well. [Speaker 10] (38:39 - 38:40) out of a, [Speaker 5] (38:40 - 38:43) It doesn't make sense to wait until we know what we're doing with the driveway and [Speaker 10] (38:43 - 38:43) okay, [Speaker 5] (38:43 - 38:44) the parking spaces before [Speaker 3] (38:44 - 38:44) Okay. [Speaker 5] (38:44 - 38:44) we do [Speaker 10] (38:44 - 38:47) right, because that could change some of the drainage and stuff like that and [Speaker 3] (38:48 - 38:50) Yeah, and until all the kind of studies, [Speaker 3] (38:50 - 38:52) their needs, that study needs to be sort of [Speaker 10] (38:52 - 38:53) When, when do you think, [Speaker 3] (38:53 - 38:53) done to review it. [Speaker 10] (38:55 - 39:01) when do you think it'll be in a position to have it updated in for review? [Speaker 5] (39:02 - 39:12) Well, I mean I guess that depends on how this study goes, you know if if we determine that we can't relocate the entryway then we're basically there, but [Speaker 10] (39:12 - 39:12) Yep. [Speaker 5] (39:12 - 39:15) if we do then it'd probably need two, maybe three weeks. [Speaker 5] (39:16 - 39:25) Probably two weeks or less to just get like a sketch in to you so you can see the layout, but I'd have to get the Civil Plans ready. So that would be maybe, I would want to say two weeks. [Speaker 1] (39:26 - 39:44) Mm-hmm. And we'd also have to work with the town, you know, there's implications on the on the on our land development agreement with the town and the that lea that land is currently leased by the you know, it's town land, but it is currently leased by the dispensary. So we'd have to talk with you know, with the town and figure out how that [Speaker 2] (39:50 - 39:51) Yeah, okay. [Speaker 2] (39:51 - 40:01) And then the other thing that um we're still waiting what you were talking about with the sewage um uh research that's being done, that report isn't done, so we we would need that finished before [Speaker 3] (40:01 - 40:01) So [Speaker 2] (40:01 - 40:01) we [Speaker 3] (40:01 - 40:05) I have information into Mark Noonan. Um [Speaker 3] (40:05 - 40:20) needs reviewing the study that we've done so far and then we'll have a meeting with him and uh determine if he wants any more information or if he wants repairs on a specific portions of the pipes and uh but exactly what the DPW wants us to do there. [Speaker 2] (40:20 - 40:23) Okay. So I guess we would have to wait for all that to be done too before we did the peer review. [Speaker 3] (40:23 - 40:24) Yeah, that would make sense. [Speaker 2] (40:24 - 40:24) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (40:24 - 40:29) But I'm wondering what Paul thinks about when we should, [Speaker 4] (40:29 - 40:31) when the town should engage the peer review. [Speaker 4] (40:32 - 40:36) So that it's in their queue, so that, you know, if it's done in two weeks, [Speaker 2] (40:36 - 40:36) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (40:36 - 40:41) and then we wait to engage a peer reviewer, you know, we've such a short time frame, I'm curious. [Speaker 4] (40:41 - 40:43) Paul's got a lot of experience with it, so I'm wondering what he thinks. [Speaker 5] (40:45 - 40:52) That's a fair point and I guess the only question is uh if the board feels that it can authorise Paul to proceed with the peer review. [Speaker 5] (40:52 - 40:52) If [Speaker 4] (40:52 - 40:53) That it [Speaker 5] (40:53 - 41:00) we can. that if if uh the board can authorise uh Paul to proceed with the peer review between now and [Speaker 5] (41:01 - 41:09) when the plans are are revised. So such that we don't lose the extra two weeks or so before the next meeting, maybe that's the approach to take. [Speaker 5] (41:10 - 41:11) The boards willing to do that. [Speaker 2] (41:12 - 41:12) Yeah. [Speaker 4] (41:13 - 41:14) Yeah, I'm curious Paul's thoughts. [Speaker 2] (41:14 - 41:15) Yeah, Paul, what do you think? [Speaker 6] (41:16 - 41:25) Yeah, so typically it would be town staff and maybe one member of the board that would be involved in the selection of the peer review consultants. [Speaker 6] (41:25 - 41:29) I always recommend you get them on board as quickly as possible, [Speaker 6] (41:29 - 41:35) even if you know you're at a stage where you're not quite ready for them to commence, [Speaker 6] (41:35 - 41:40) at least you've got them in place and ready to go because as was stated, [Speaker 6] (41:40 - 41:42) the time goes really quickly. [Speaker 6] (41:43 - 41:49) You've got 180 days from the date that you open the public hearing to commence your hearing process, [Speaker 6] (41:49 - 41:51) and that goes very, very fast. [Speaker 6] (41:51 - 41:54) So the sooner you get your consultants in place, [Speaker 6] (41:54 - 41:54) the better. [Speaker 2] (41:54 - 41:57) Okay, and I think Christy's working on that already, [Speaker 2] (41:57 - 41:59) so yeah, I think we're on [Speaker 4] (41:59 - 41:59) Alright, perfect. [Speaker 2] (41:59 - 42:00) track like that. [Speaker 2] (42:01 - 42:03) Alright, does anybody else have any questions? [Speaker 2] (42:04 - 42:05) Is he here? [Speaker 2] (42:05 - 42:05) Anyone? [Speaker 2] (42:06 - 42:08) Or anyone online that can use the raise a hand? [Speaker 2] (42:09 - 42:10) Button. [Speaker 2] (42:12 - 42:14) Oh, there we go. Yeah. Oh. [Speaker 2] (42:15 - 42:17) Hi, you got your, sorry. [Speaker 7] (42:17 - 42:17) Um, [Speaker 2] (42:17 - 42:17) Hi, go ahead. [Speaker 7] (42:17 - 42:35) um just because we're still talking about the parking during our meeting with the developers we had discussed if they were unable to use one entrance because of whatever land agreement there is possibly that left. [Speaker 7] (42:36 - 42:39) bottom um like patch of green [Speaker 7] (42:42 - 42:51) like possibly moving the entrance to like the very end of Pine Street there so it's not directly across from our driveways and [Speaker 2] (42:51 - 42:51) No, [Speaker 7] (42:51 - 42:51) our [Speaker 2] (42:51 - 42:51) it's [Speaker 7] (42:51 - 42:51) houses [Speaker 2] (42:51 - 42:53) on to, that would be on to New Ocean there, [Speaker 3] (42:53 - 42:53) Yeah, [Speaker 2] (42:53 - 42:53) yeah, [Speaker 3] (42:53 - 42:54) that [Speaker 1] (42:54 - 42:54) Right [Speaker 2] (42:54 - 42:54) I [Speaker 3] (42:54 - 42:54) would be [Speaker 2] (42:54 - 42:54) guess [Speaker 1] (42:54 - 42:54) down [Speaker 2] (42:54 - 42:54) that [Speaker 1] (42:54 - 42:55) New it is. [Speaker 3] (42:55 - 42:57) York is a very dangerous spot for a driveway, [Speaker 3] (42:57 - 42:59) especially considering the history of the road. [Speaker 3] (42:59 - 43:01) If we put a driveway there, [Speaker 3] (43:01 - 43:04) there may be queuing issues going around. [Speaker 3] (43:05 - 43:32) the new ocean onto pine street uh we're cramming it in between the pine street intersection and the existing parking lot um so and also the way it comes in would come in in such a way that we would at least have to lose one or two maybe even more parking spaces because it doesn't come into an aisle it kind of comes into the side of the parcel that we have parking up against so um [Speaker 3] (43:33 - 43:35) It's something that we could look into. [Speaker 3] (43:36 - 43:43) I'm concerned about the safety of that location, um but we can certainly discuss it with Gino and see his thoughts on it. [Speaker 2] (43:43 - 43:47) Yeah, I I can see those concerns about that location. I think it would it would be ideal to [Speaker 2] (43:48 - 43:52) to if there was a solution it would be the one entrance solution. [Speaker 6] (43:53 - 43:53) Oh. [Speaker 8] (43:54 - 43:56) Yeah, I think that's what I would do. I think so. [Speaker 8] (43:57 - 44:06) I just have a question last time at our meeting I asked about the information on the equipment that's going on the roof about the decibel levels [Speaker 2] (44:06 - 44:06) Yep. [Speaker 8] (44:06 - 44:10) coming off if they've gotten that information yet. [Speaker 2] (44:10 - 44:11) So that will, [Speaker 2] (44:12 - 44:18) what we do know now is that everything will be to code and I'm asking for relief for decibels or any relief for that. [Speaker 2] (44:19 - 44:26) But the actual, the actual levels and the actual equipment will be part of the building plan which comes [Speaker 2] (44:26 - 44:33) which comes after um after the approval of all the relief. So they are not asking for relief, which is good news, it means that they're not ex [Speaker 8] (44:33 - 44:33) Right. [Speaker 2] (44:33 - 44:35) expecting to to need it or anything. [Speaker 8] (44:35 - 44:36) Okay, thank you. [Speaker 2] (44:40 - 44:42) Alright, does anybody else have anything? [Speaker 3] (44:43 - 44:43) No. [Speaker 2] (44:43 - 44:48) Alright. So we will continue to um next month. [Speaker 2] (44:49 - 44:50) Yeah, do you have [Speaker 5] (44:50 - 44:50) Sure, [Speaker 2] (44:50 - 44:50) a question? [Speaker 5] (44:50 - 44:54) well just a point of clarification in terms of the peer review and [Speaker 2] (44:54 - 44:55) Yeah. [Speaker 5] (44:55 - 45:10) I'm just wondering whether, you know, the board would authorise the chair to authorise the peer review provided that we provide a proposed solution that's run through perhaps Gina and if he's satisfied with that to proceed with the peer review. [Speaker 2] (45:10 - 45:12) Are we talking about the peer review for the um for [Speaker 3] (45:12 - 45:13) Civil? [Speaker 2] (45:13 - 45:13) the civil? [Speaker 3] (45:14 - 45:14) Yeah, I think the question [Speaker 5] (45:14 - 45:14) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (45:14 - 45:15) is if [Speaker 3] (45:16 - 45:20) We are able to do that driveway curb cut, can the board [Speaker 3] (45:21 - 45:30) approve Gino to get the go-ahead to move forward with the peer review so that we can get the extra time prior to the next zoning board meeting to work on a peer review. [Speaker 5] (45:30 - 45:31) I want to call the meeting to order. [Speaker 2] (45:31 - 45:31) Um, [Speaker 3] (45:31 - 45:31) Which [Speaker 2] (45:31 - 45:35) I one? mean yeah, we can work on yeah, we can work on peer review between meetings, [Speaker 3] (45:35 - 45:35) So [Speaker 2] (45:35 - 45:35) but that we're [Speaker 3] (45:35 - 45:35) we need [Speaker 2] (45:35 - 45:35) asking [Speaker 4] (45:35 - 45:37) to we need a vote? Is that what you're saying? [Speaker 2] (45:37 - 45:37) saying [Speaker 5] (45:37 - 45:38) That's what I was just asking. [Speaker 2] (45:38 - 45:38) We're Okay. [Speaker 4] (45:38 - 45:40) just just procedurally [Speaker 2] (45:40 - 45:41) Procedurally we just need a vote [Speaker 4] (45:41 - 45:42) for us a motion to [Speaker 5] (45:42 - 45:43) Oh I see. [Speaker 2] (45:43 - 45:43) To engage [Speaker 4] (45:43 - 45:43) approve [Speaker 2] (45:43 - 45:43) peer [Speaker 4] (45:43 - 45:44) to [Speaker 2] (45:44 - 45:44) review. [Speaker 4] (45:44 - 45:44) engage [Speaker 2] (45:44 - 45:44) Okay. [Speaker 4] (45:44 - 45:50) peer review for the civil and leaving it, you know, if if you were going to work be the designee. [Speaker 4] (45:50 - 45:50) designee from [Speaker 2] (45:50 - 45:50) Yeah, [Speaker 4] (45:50 - 45:51) the board. [Speaker 2] (45:51 - 45:54) I'll work and I'll work with Christy and Gino to to get that done. [Speaker 4] (45:54 - 45:58) So we should, and then when we have Tony, we should probably do a roll call vote on that motion. [Speaker 2] (45:58 - 45:58) Okay. [Speaker 2] (45:59 - 46:00) Are you ready to make a [Speaker 4] (46:00 - 46:00) I [Speaker 2] (46:00 - 46:00) motion? [Speaker 4] (46:00 - 46:01) can make the motion. [Speaker 2] (46:01 - 46:02) Thanks, Mike. [Speaker 4] (46:02 - 46:14) So I'll make a motion to designate Heather to be the board designee to work on the selection of the civil peer review and to work with [Speaker 4] (46:15 - 46:37) the DPW or any other department that's required or reasonably necessary to properly engage the correct peer review person and to commence to engage and commence if the plans are at a sufficient stage to have that review. [Speaker 7] (46:39 - 46:40) We'll second it. [Speaker 2] (46:40 - 46:42) All right. We'll do a roll call. [Speaker 2] (46:42 - 46:42) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (46:43 - 46:44) Yes. [Speaker 2] (46:44 - 46:44) Yes. [Speaker 1] (46:44 - 46:44) Yes. [Speaker 1] (46:45 - 46:45) Yes. [Speaker 4] (46:45 - 46:45) And Tony. [Speaker 2] (46:45 - 46:46) And then Tony. [Speaker 2] (46:49 - 46:50) Tony might be muted. [Speaker 4] (46:51 - 46:52) He's muted and all. [Speaker 4] (47:00 - 47:01) See there? [Speaker 2] (47:02 - 47:05) Tony, if you can just vote on that authorization. [Speaker 2] (47:07 - 47:08) You need to unmute yourself if you're. [Speaker 2] (47:16 - 47:16) Yeah, it's weird. [Speaker 4] (47:21 - 47:24) He he texted me. Yes, I'm trying to go on mute. [Speaker 2] (47:25 - 47:27) I'm going to count that as a yes, but to be honest, [Speaker 2] (47:27 - 47:29) we don't necessarily need it. We still have the approval without it, [Speaker 2] (47:29 - 47:33) so, but we'll call it unanimous. All right. [Speaker 2] (47:33 - 47:34) Excellent. [Speaker 2] (47:34 - 47:34) Okay, [Speaker 2] (47:34 - 47:36) so we're going to, what's that? [Speaker 1] (47:36 - 47:37) The text count. [Speaker 2] (47:36 - 47:46) Yes, the text counts. Yes, exactly. So we will continue to our next meeting. I'm just looking at my calendar as to when that is because we have um a holiday next month. [Speaker 9] (47:46 - 47:47) We have it on the 18th. [Speaker 2] (47:47 - 47:48) We have it on the 18th. Alright. [Speaker 2] (47:51 - 47:57) So can we just get a motion to continue to um our meeting on November 18th. [Speaker 4] (47:59 - 48:03) I'll make a motion to continue the public hearing to November 18th. [Speaker 2] (48:03 - 48:04) We get a second? [Speaker 7] (48:04 - 48:05) Second. [Speaker 2] (48:05 - 48:06) All in favor? [Speaker 4] (48:06 - 48:06) Aye. [Speaker 1] (48:06 - 48:07) Aye. [Speaker 2] (48:07 - 48:07) Aye. [Speaker 2] (48:08 - 48:09) And Tony's okay with that. [Speaker 4] (48:09 - 48:10) We've [Speaker 2] (48:10 - 48:10) We can [Speaker 4] (48:10 - 48:10) got enough [Speaker 2] (48:10 - 48:10) still [Speaker 4] (48:10 - 48:10) votes. [Speaker 2] (48:10 - 48:11) do it without him. [Speaker 5] (48:11 - 48:12) Thank you. [Speaker 2] (48:12 - 48:12) All right. [Speaker 3] (48:12 - 48:13) Thank you. [Speaker 2] (48:13 - 48:14) Thank you so much. [Speaker 4] (48:14 - 48:15) All right, thank you everyone. [Speaker 2] (48:15 - 48:15) Thank you. [Speaker 1] (48:15 - 48:16) Thank you.